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6601  Other / Off-topic / Re: Today Unicorn Revealed himself to me and said Buy Bitcoin on: November 20, 2013, 12:43:01 PM
Yes a Unicorn Revealed himself to me and said "Pssstt... Buy Bitcoins, You Be Millionair in 2 years Smiley"
So i did.

Hey , I don't remember telling you anything!
6602  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: $4000 to spend, what should I do? on: November 20, 2013, 12:37:06 PM
Yeah! buy , buy buy like there is no tomorrow.
Also , don't take advice form people suggesting to buy.
6603  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: just been released from prison to find out I'm rich on: November 20, 2013, 11:57:03 AM
It is not possible to collect 670,000 BTC, as he first heard about Bitcoin in mid-2011. No chance.

Had he started collecting them in 2009, there was still a small chance.

You actually gave a thought on this crap story?
6604  Economy / Speculation / Re: Fall of bitcoin on: November 20, 2013, 11:54:16 AM
Wow , those threads appear like mushrooms , just like bitcoin to 1000 threads a few days ago.
It's boring
6605  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin at the US Senate on: November 20, 2013, 11:45:49 AM
So , it all ended like.... nothing changed?
6606  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 20, 2013, 11:44:07 AM
Bears are struggling to pull this castle down. First grip it gets to go up it's gonna hit with momentum again. All the senators at home buying bitcoins now they know the code breakers cant break the encryptionz

Well they sure are buying on localbitcoins and not on gox,stamp,bte-e,btchina :DDDD
6607  Other / Off-topic / Re: They are a tad bit too late to the game. on: November 20, 2013, 11:42:42 AM
LTC about to hit double digits.  They might be early not late.

LTC back to single digits , they might be late again =)))))))
6608  Economy / Economics / Re: Do you really believe in bitcoin as a currency? on: November 20, 2013, 11:41:01 AM
Yeah , it's called investment.

That is also what Charles Ponzi and Bernie Madoff claimed.

Quoting only a part of discussion to throw in a remark that has nothing to do with the current thread , well i call that need for attention.
6609  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin And Porn on: November 20, 2013, 11:32:56 AM
Recurring payments , which account to more than 25% percent (considering some topics on gfy)
Without these most porn sites would close.

And age verification.

Yeah, I've tried to find and old post
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=22946.msg3578284#msg3578284

Btw, same topic on this :
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=22946.0


There is a major problem with porn sites.
I have a friend which owns a few and he knows a few guys in this business. He even went to the Budapest convention this year. I've been bugging him a lot about bitcoins but i finally got an answer.
This below will sum up the icq conversation they had.

The problem , apart from the recurring fees , is the anonymity of the user.
One of the managers of an affiliate program , one of the biggest after Manwin , (i'm not going to name him for obvious reasons) said something like that:


The moment we accept bitcoins and not credit cards there will be a kid somewhere buying access , and there will be a parent catching him in the act and a newspaper telling the story.
It downs't matter that the kid could have watched porn for free on a tube , downloaded it from free or anything else.
In that moment a mob of angry activist will hammer us with lawsuits into oblivion as we don't already have enough problems with them.
And in the end , something like , we won't risk getting into trouble for a 10% increase in sales , a 20% increase because there will be no charge backs and a 50% decrease because of recurring payments.

Of course i think this would be a total different story about videochat websites but .. i don't know and have nobody i know in  that business.

6610  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: thing that will kill bitcoin on: November 20, 2013, 11:21:45 AM
this is the  kind of thing that will kill bitcoin

You mean selfish people who refuse to pay a four-penny transaction fee? Nah, it'll just (hopefully) weed out selfish people who refuse to pay a four-penny transaction fee.

+1. He refused to pay 1 cent for transferring 1000 worth of dollars.
READ WHAT I WROTE DONT JUDGE TOO FAST Smiley


Read it all again.
So , you mean people not sure what they are doing and not reading before doing something will kill bitcoin?

I'm sure a cabbage seller entering a bank and demanding to wire them to Japan will destroy the banking system.
6611  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 20, 2013, 11:10:58 AM
*Reads thread*

Yup. Looks like a perfect time to buy.  Grin

we had 7 consecutive days of drops in the april bubble. Now question is whether 'this time it's different'.

we need to have bigger drop so that this would qualified as a bubble pop so no use to vs april here.

no we don't need , we could still talk about it theoretically Cheesy
6612  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 20, 2013, 11:05:56 AM
Time for the old "bear - bull" switcheroo ?
6613  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin And Porn on: November 20, 2013, 10:58:56 AM
Recurring payments , which account to more than 25% percent (considering some topics on gfy)
Without these most porn sites would close.
6614  Other / Off-topic / Re: Millionaires Only Thread - No Plebs Allowed! on: November 20, 2013, 10:52:25 AM
Millionaires only?
LMAO
Such a restricted area where only around 6 mils americans can enter =))))))))))))))))))))))))

Thems the rules buddy. Up here in the millionaires club we like to be surrounded by the finer things in life.... Ferrero Rocher chocolates, caviar, bits of cheese on sticks, flatscreen tvs, ferraris etc. It's bad enough having to listen to common folk  in the queue at Starbucks, we don't want have to listen to them jabbering on about the lotto and tinned food here as well.

So with all due respect, if you haven't got $1,000,000 + worth of BTC, please leave this esteemed thread..

So your rich dream is eating candies that's being sold at 7$/box ?
Just how poor are you?

Sorry matey, them Ferrero Rocher are classy chocolates used by diplomats, aristorcrats and premier league footballers: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMlP_Moo0bE

I think you should save up, get rid of the fast food junk for a day, and try some. Same with the cheese on sticks, you wouldn't find the queen stuffing her face with her fingers, classy folk like us use chip forks.

Now scoot buddy, before I call security!

something like this?


6615  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Satoshi and 'Frostwire' on: November 20, 2013, 10:07:10 AM
Is this another let's hunt for Satoshi?
6616  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: thing that will kill bitcoin on: November 20, 2013, 10:05:30 AM
this is the  kind of thing that will kill bitcoin

You mean selfish people who refuse to pay a four-penny transaction fee? Nah, it'll just (hopefully) weed out selfish people who refuse to pay a four-penny transaction fee.

+1. He refused to pay 1 cent for transferring 1000 worth of dollars.
6617  Economy / Speculation / Re: China on: November 20, 2013, 10:03:26 AM
Perhaps they're all eating dinner at the same time.

But there's definitely a good reason why they've slowed drastically atm.

Earlier today when I turned on fiatleak they bought about about 20 times less than the US over a 15 minute period.  Shocked

over a 15 minutes period.............let's all panic
it's not the US there , its usd , i'm buying selling in usd and i'm not in the US.
you trust fiatleak that much , why?
6618  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 20, 2013, 09:39:13 AM
Time for
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2ku1A5Ox8U
with bitstamps instead of gox???
6619  Other / Off-topic / Re: Let's Count to 21 Million with Images on: November 20, 2013, 09:36:34 AM
6620  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: (in)valid methodology, as explained by a student of the liberal arts on: November 20, 2013, 09:35:18 AM
the post shows ~60% are happy with it, ...

This post is a "funny" way of explaining (using metaphorical case studies) how I feel about that poll.

///  Hypothetical ways to give people a "choice" about not actually unsubscribing from your spam mailing list, or making sure they get the carrots they secretly actually want, despite any reservations they have about your vegetables.  ///



After clicking the unsubscribe link on an uninteresting email much like countless others you've been getting... basically you're annoyed by this type of email on a daily basis... your computer opens up the unsubscribe link in your default browser, and displays a website with the following text:

Code:
We're sorry you don't find our
fancy widget product promotion
reminder notices...

(blah blah blah something something unsubscribe)

After quickly looking at the unsubscribe page in your browser, you see the word "unsubscribe" followed by two "select one" radio button options:

  • Yes
  • No

... upon further study, you discover a few pre-checked checkboxes, and more than one button:

In the margins of the page, there are some checkboxes with various strangely worded options, many of which include "but", or "instead", or "please", and MULTIPLE buttons labeled "submit", and a single button labeled "cancel"

In a situation like this, who can really say what the correct action even is to get them to stop sending you "fancy widget product promotion reminder notices" (spam)

Does the cancel button cancel your attempt at unsubscribing?

What is the purpose for the Nth "submit" button near the 3rd cluster of multiple-choice buttons?



Another hypothetical scenario:

A person has a controversial idea about farming a particular variety of carrots, and there is an opinion poll with various options:

  • {1}  (...) don't plant these abominations of nature
  • {2}  I don't like carrots (...)
  • {3}  We should grow potatoes (...)
  • {4}  Great, I like carrots
  • {5}  (...) let's get these carrots planted everywhere next growing season
  • {6}  (...)

The language can be used to manipulate the voter's thoughts away from carrot farming, and depending on the text which gets substituted in place of "(...)", any choices for these options could potentially be invalid due to a confusing & therefore flawed methodology.

Just as an example, let's say the word substitutions are as follows:

{1}  (you're not a very experienced carrot farmer ...)
{2}  (... but I agree we need to plant carrots)
{3}  (... but I guess the farming needs to move forward with carrots anyway.)
{4}  -- generic option to express support without bias or confusion --
{5}  (you looked pretty cool in those television commercials ...)
{6}  -- generic option to express strife, due to controversy about the carrot farmers --

Now, the "actual" (hypothetical) final text used for an option poll about carrot farming, as well as the results of our now somewhat confusing poll:

  • {1}  (you're not a very experienced carrot farmer ...) don't plant these abominations of nature - 107 (43.3%)
  • {2}  I don't like carrots (... but I agree we need to plant carrots) - 20 (8.1%)
  • {3}  We should grow potatoes (... but I guess the farming needs to move forward with carrots anyway.) - 21 (8.5%)
  • {4}  Great, I like carrots - 38 (15.4%)
  • {5}  (you looked pretty cool in those television commercials ...) let's get these carrots planted everywhere next growing season - 45 (18.2%)
  • {6}  this idea came from someone with the wrong skin color, a controversial world view, their political affiliation directly opposes mine, or they otherwise automatically have bad ideas, so it doesn't matter what they want to farm - 16 (6.5%)
Total Voters: 247


Different poll, using a non-hypothetical bitcoin-related topic instead of carrot farming or the opt-out forms used by promotional mailing lists:

  • You're an idiot, don't do this!
  • I don't like this, but I agree we need to move forward with it.
  • We should have waited longer, but I guess it needs to move forward now.
  • Great, it's about time!
  • You're a hero, let's get this deployed everywhere ASAP!
  • If it's from Luke, it can't be any good.


Nice post , but when you start putting so much work on something so trivial , you add value to that trivial cause.
It's clear that the poll was made so with pure intention to make the results unclear.
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