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6601  Economy / Economics / Re: Oil and USA dollar problem for USA covid 19 New oil on: November 16, 2020, 06:47:39 AM
That's because there are government controls on prices, and politicians play with it. In some other oil rich countries gas is very cheap or almost free, in the end it's the government subsidizing the price, nothing to do with free markets.
And what are the prices for gas and petrol in the USA for the population?
95 gasoline in Russia costs $ 0.57 per liter($ 2.16 per gallon,  if in 1 gallon 3.785 liters)
1000 cubic meters of gas costs $ 88

There are very good statistics for Europe and Russia on this site, but you will have to use a translator
https://svspb.net/novosti/stoimosti-gaza/
6602  Economy / Economics / Re: Oil and USA dollar problem for USA covid 19 New oil on: November 15, 2020, 09:26:45 PM
The price of fuel oil has dropped by less than half in a year due to the effects of the epidemic. But I don't think there is any difference between the dollar and the oil in the United States. Oil prices fluctuate on the basis of supply and demand theory at that time the supply of fuel oil was much higher around the world. Demand was lower than that and if the supply exceeds the demand the price goes down. According to media reports the difference in supply and demand is due to political reasons. At that time, the United States doubled its oil production despite being a major oil producer the United States imports oil all the time.
If you want to see how the law of supply and demand works in russia, then you are welcome. The price of 95 gasoline in russia at gas stations is 2 or more times more expensive than in those countries that buy oil from russia Grin
In America, prices at gas stations fall when oil becomes cheaper, in Russia, gasoline prices for the people only grow Smiley
6603  Local / Oбcyждeниe Bitcoin / Re: Децентрализованный токенизированный BTC on: November 15, 2020, 08:37:33 PM
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Где написано про KYC? Откуда он в децентрализованном протоколе?

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Проходим KYC, отправляем  свои BTC, получаем ETH токены WBTC.
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Возможно я это неправильно понял, но хотелось бы понять где можно обойтись без идентификации.  

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Вы меняйте биткоин в кеш. Возжно менять частями и платить огромные комиссии, можно перевести на биржу и надеется что ваши данные не сольют третьим лицам, бандитам, гос. организациям.
А можно токенизировать в сети эфира и менять в любое время на стейблы без КУС и прочего дерьма.

Нет Smiley Все что написано - очень просто и подойдет тем, кто в жизни будет делать свой первый обмен. Меня интересует выход через Uniswap в фиат, в доллары - с теми минимальными комиссиями, про которые вы говорите. Дерьмо в виде стейблкоинов - не интересует.

ps: И хорош про большие комиссии, они уже с неделю более чем нормальные, в переводе BTC.
Я вначале писал о кастодиальном сервисе wbtc.network  для сравнения Cheesy

Первый мой обмен был с менялой, отправил BTC, мне перевели на карту.
Uniswap не работает с фиатом Smiley

Минимальная (бесплатная комиссия) это у трона, с биржи в USDT на ТРОН( кошелек тронлинк - комиссия 2  рубля)- далее через менялу трон USDT  в фиат( 15 транзакций в сутки бесплатны).

Мой способ безопасный, он не будет выгоднее по комиссиям, зато мои средства будут перемещаться с помощью проверенных смартконтрактов а не централизованных посредников.

Расскажи как меняешь BTC на фиат, без подробностей
6604  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Everything you wanted to know about Grayscale BTC Trust but were afraid to ask! on: November 15, 2020, 11:10:59 AM
https://decrypt.co/48277/grayscale-buys-240m-in-bitcoin-in-largest-capital-raise-week-ever

Grayscale Buys $240m in Bitcoin In Largest Capital Raise Week Ever
"Grayscale, which runs the Grayscale Bitcoin Trust (GBTC), bought this week another 15,114 Bitcoin ($241 million). GBTC holds 481,711 Bitcoin, representing 62% of all Bitcoins in the ownership of publicly-traded companies.
Grayscale Bitcoin Trust (GBTC), which was created in 2013, is the company’s biggest trust. The total value of assets managed by Grayscale Bitcoin Trust (GBTC) now exceeds $8.2 billion.
GBTC holds 481,711 Bitcoin, which corresponds to 62% of the 814,359 Bitcoins in the ownership of publicly-traded companies."
6605  Local / Oбcyждeниe Bitcoin / Re: Децентрализованный токенизированный BTC on: November 15, 2020, 11:07:22 AM
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Это возможность продавать биткоины без централизованных посредников и выполнять их условия.
Передумали продавать, реверс работает.

Как я понимаю это какое-то подобие свопов, тогда вопрос, а как и чем гарантируется обратный обмен, кроме заявлений команды? Кроме этого очень интересно, для каких целей децентрализованному протоколу KYC?

И логически - есть ли выход в фиат, при таких продажах?

Где написано про KYC? Откуда он в децентрализованном протоколе?
Проект зарабатывает на комиссиях, не важно в какую сторону обмен. Если вы обменяли 1 BTC на токены, то в обратном обмене больше не получите.
Любой стейблкоин на эфире как фиат. Бестчендж- обмен на наличные.

Вы меняйте биткоин в кеш. Возжно менять частями и платить огромные комиссии, можно перевести на биржу и надеется что ваши данные не сольют третьим лицам, бандитам, гос. организациям.
А можно токенизировать в сети эфира и менять в любое время на стейблы без КУС и прочего дерьма.
6606  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Uniswap discussion on: November 15, 2020, 09:55:20 AM

https://beincrypto.ru/v-google-play-zamechen-poddelnyj-klon-uniswap/
Fake Uniswap clone spotted on Google Play

"According to preliminary information, the fake application for the exchange of ERC-20 protocol tokens has already been downloaded more than five thousand times

A fake app has been spotted on the popular Android app store Goolge Play posing as the official Uniswap protocol.

After installing the application, the application requires the user to enter a mnemonic phrase (seed phrase) from the wallet to exchange digital tokens. In the cryptocurrency community, it is known that if a mnemonic phrase is lost or stolen, access to the wallet is lost forever."



6607  Economy / Economics / Re: Oil and USA dollar problem for USA covid 19 New oil on: November 15, 2020, 09:46:42 AM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_oil_production
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Список_стран_по_добыче_нефти
Even in 2014, the United States ranked 3rd in the world in oil production after Russia and Saudi Arabia.
I have no idea how badly the shutdown of US oil production will affect the unemployment rates in the country.
But I think it will cause a lot of other problems.


6608  Economy / Economics / Re: Look like covid is over Once we take loans on: November 15, 2020, 09:00:07 AM
If you study the US economy, the volume of the retail lending market exceeds 80% of the country's GDP. Most of the population is already under credit.
10 percent of Americans are confident they will die in debt!
https://zen.yandex.ru/media/creditblog/dolg-rossiian-po-kreditam-k-nachalu-2020-goda-5e002717118d7f00ad442a71

In America and most European countries, people live in credit slavery, and I am shocked by such statistics
6609  Local / Альтернативные криптовалюты / Re: DeFi - "Атаки" и Безопасность on: November 15, 2020, 08:35:55 AM
https://beincrypto.ru/hakery-ukrali-6-mln-u-protokola-value-defi
Хакеры украли $6 млн у протокола Value DeFi
6610  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Avoid Bittrex! on: November 15, 2020, 08:19:13 AM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5253547.msg54567100#msg54567100

https://imgur.com/a/c86smPQ

You can receive such crappy requests at any time and the exchange will block your account. I have not used centralized exchanges for a long time. Formally, any exchange can be accused of fraud and a criminal case against the management can be initiated.
And then users will wait, as clients of the Okex exchange do.
6611  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Decentralized Tokenized BTC on: November 15, 2020, 07:11:49 AM
All of these services are actually custodian services and are always going to have a central, middle party involved. The reason being that there is not yet a decentralized solution to implementing a two-way peg. Even the solution from blockstream, the Liquid sidechain has something called a federated peg. The funds are held in a multisig and the transfer is to parties in a "federation".

In the hype of DeFi, there is a German project that will actually let you BURN your BTC and in return you get their version of ERC-20 BTC pegged to these other custodial BTCs and some other ERC-20 tokens.
I disagree with you. Only signers or nodes owners own parts of users' private keys.
The project itself only owns collateral assets, so that in case of fraud from signers or nodes owners, exchange these assets for bitcoins.
The best solution I think is the DAI token. But I can only agree that these solutions will not be the best for storing bitcoins, but they are suitable for decentralized trading.
6612  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Decentralized Tokenized BTC on: November 15, 2020, 06:29:48 AM
But I don't want to trust my coins to custodian services, so I can show you a way to trade bitcoin without centralized intermediaries.
My apologies if my question would be kinda off-topic, I just wondering although both of them tBTC and rentBTC are decentralized services but as far I know the nature of wrapped tokens/tokenized coins is a custodian. So what's the huge difference between using either centralized custodian and decentralized custodian service?
Decentralized storage services run on smart contracts. tBTC uses Ethereum for collateral. Even if 3 random signers turn out to be scammers and steal your bitcoins, they will have to give the project their locked ethereum. In practice, the user will not notice this. In a decentralized service, each party to the transaction receives benefits: the client receives a decentralized exchange, the service and the owners of the nodes or are signed receive commissions.
Fraud and abuse of authority will not work here.
Of course, there are risks of mistakes in a smart contract.
read this
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5173370.0
6613  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Upcoming BCH hard fork question on: November 14, 2020, 06:13:02 PM
How Many Bitcoin Forks Are There? You will be surprised!!!
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5221882

Recently, I have a negative attitude towards these forks. This creates unnecessary information noise and causes misunderstanding for novice crypto users.
I believe that 8% of mining is a very large share for developers. This is bad practice for coin development.
Didn't know that there's a lot of Bitcoin Forks. Thanks for this I was planning on buying BCH so I would have a free fork coin but looks like it's not a good idea afterall.
Any fork is more like a fight for the pie between "miners, developers and investors."
this was written by user kzv
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5223031.msg53775434#msg53775434
Many forks have made large blocks that can accommodate a huge number of transactions, but the blocks are empty.
In this situation, the financial interest of the developers is discussed.
If they were offered a part of the miners' income for a certain period, then it would be a different situation
6614  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Upcoming BCH hard fork question on: November 14, 2020, 05:50:50 PM
How Many Bitcoin Forks Are There? You will be surprised!!!
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5221882

Recently, I have a negative attitude towards these forks. This creates unnecessary information noise and causes misunderstanding for novice crypto users.
I believe that 8% of mining is a very large share for developers. This is bad practice for coin development.
6615  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Is DeFi really a threat to centralized finance? on: November 14, 2020, 05:34:32 PM
I dont see it as a threat to centralized finance because it caters to a different niche market. Big financial institutions can adopt to it but it would take time since it would need to comply with existing laws.
The threat in fact is huge when there is a massive adoption of cryptocurrencies. The defi ecosystem has already replaced many banking services (but this requires collateral). The user does not need to ask permissions, submit applications, wait for answers. Outside, I do not like what PayPal offers, but they need to thank them for popularizing the cryptocurrency. I hope after a while people will think about it and ask the question: how to work without intermediaries?
6616  Local / Oбcyждeниe Bitcoin / Re: Децентрализованный токенизированный BTC on: November 14, 2020, 05:22:13 PM
Я эти проекты видел, но так и не понял, в чем профит переводить свои дорогие биткоины? Они будут на чужих адресах, а что мне дадут токены на эфире, полученные в таком же размере?  
Не на чужих адресах, а на адресах децентрализованного протокола, который не имеет доступа к вашим средствам.
У эфира комиссия маленькая, унисвап прекрасно работает.
Это возможность продавать биткоины без централизованных посредников и выполнять их условия.
Передумали продавать, реверс работает.

6617  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: DeFi & NFT tokens project on: November 14, 2020, 05:11:46 PM
"Decrypt spoke to Metakovan over email to better understand why anyone would spend money that could get you a real car (and a very expensive one, at that) on a fake car.

“Think about it,” he said. “This car is the first of its kind, and indestructible. There's something special about that 'first' car. Like being able to own the first ever Ford Model A.”

In other words, for the pseudonymous NFT investor, it’s a little bit like owning a piece of history.

“The difference here is,” Metakovan told Decrypt, “we're talking about the first in-game, official F1 car. I believe that this is one of the best collectibles ever. The kind that would pay for itself over and again.”

When asked if he expected the value of the car to appreciate over time, Metakovan said that “you need to look at it like art in the real world,” in that there’s inherent value for the collector that goes beyond the question of money: “For a very long time, I don't intend to give it away. I will hold on to it for as long as I can. However, this is a non-fungible token, which means it, or more importantly its story, can't be replicated.”

But the car isn’t “just a showpiece,” said the mysterious NFT whale. It has the potential to earn money in F1 Delta Time races on the blockchain, since the top racers on the game’s leaderboard are awarded a certain amount of ETH each week. In a podcast interview, Metakovan admitted that actually hasn’t used the car yet—but if he does decide to start racing it, the car’s stats will get him something of a head start: “So either way, the value of the car will grow over time.”

Most NFT investors are not only buying into individual assets, but also into the broader concept of the “metaverse”—a digital layer sitting on top of the real world, accessible via augmented reality apps and virtual reality hardware (think: Oculus Rift). Virtual communities like Decentraland, Cryptovoxels, and The Sandbox are already dedicated to this sort of thing, and act as hubs for purchased NFTs."

https://decrypt.co/48201/nft-whale-metakovan-interview
Meet the Mysterious NFT Whale Who Drops $100K on Fake Cars
6618  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Ethereum: Welcome to the Beginning on: November 14, 2020, 03:35:27 PM
https://twitter.com/etherchain_org/status/1327595731939627014

"Ethereum 2.0 Deposits

💸69,856 ETH has been deposited over the past 10 days.

👀A single address deposited 16,000 ETH (=500 validators)

🥧A single entity currently owns ~35%

454,432 ETH left for a launch on the 1st of December.
Projected launch January 31st, 2021."



Source:
Bitfly(С)
@etherchain_org




6619  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: DeFi hacks [history] on: November 14, 2020, 01:34:35 PM
https://akropolis.substack.com/p/delphi-savings-pool-exploit

"At ~14:36 GMT we noticed a discrepancy in the APYs of our stablecoin pools and identified that ~2.0mn DAI had been drained out of the yCurve and sUSD pools.

These pools had been audited by two independent firms, however, the attack vectors used in the exploit were not identified in either audit. The essence of the exploit in question is a combination of a re-entrancy attack with dYdX flash loan origination.

The Akropolis team is currently working through a number of security procedures. The majority of funds on Akropolis are safe. Here is the current status:

Affected Pools:

YCurve and sUSD pools were drained of ~DAI 2.0mn

The stolen funds are currently held in this wallet: https://etherscan.io/address/0x9f26ae5cd245bfeeb5926d61497550f79d9c6c1c"


https://twitter.com/akropolisio/status/1326962438365966356
6620  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Decentralized Tokenized BTC on: November 13, 2020, 04:21:29 PM
I haven't heard of the rest he, tbtc, rentbtc apart from Wbtc which is well known, I think they might have copied it from WETH as well, but what's their purpose in the crypto space. I just got surprise as I saw that these dec tokenised btc are minted 1:1 on ethereum network, that's equally they are same as erc20 tokens.
Wbtc tokens are minted according to a very simple principle: you lock your tokens in the bitcoin blockchain, you are given ERC 20 ethereum tokens.
USDT also work.
But when decentralized services use centralized tokens (which can be locked by the owner of a smart contract), it looks very funny.
Any user who trades on a centralized crypto exchange will tell us that this is the same.
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