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6601  Economy / Gambling / Re: Investing in btc casinos on: November 19, 2016, 12:17:19 PM

This whole point of using altcoins as a possible collateral seems to be strained at best and far-fetched at worst with forced arguments at that. It is not enough that you as a borrower might think that the altcoin in question would grow in price, you should also convince the lender in that. If you somehow succeed, the lender would be willingly and wittingly selling you bitcoins for that altcoin and then buying them back at a loss. Why would he want that?

What? No, not selling. That is collateral. Which is usually held in escrow.

I know that lending is not selling, but the effect is basically the same as what I described in my post.

And instead of explaining how you are going to convince the lender that the altcoin you are going to offer as a collateral is likely to increase in price and why he would want to accept it if you succeed at that, you are trying to explain inconsequential details which are not relevant. There is a logical inconsistency in using altcoins as a collateral if they are expected to rise in price. That's why I come to think that the example of altcoins as collateral is invented, not a real one.

But actually lenders will get a doubt to accept altcoins as collateral since it has high possibilities that the coin you think to risen up will sudden die, and its so risky for them if that would be happen since they will lose their money and might their business will be ruined if that scenario will occur and theres a altcoin collateral left in their hands. But in other hand some of lenders accepting it if the coin they make as collateral is xmr coin wich goes up and stable coins at these day.
6602  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Where I can learn Bitcoin Trading? on: November 19, 2016, 11:39:34 AM
You must ask experience people so you can learn from them so you can learn more lessons from their losses and winnings on trades, aswell as you need to apply their thoughs and do some research for yourself, so you can fully understand the flaws on that, but don't really on one aspects on tradings and widen your vision since there are to many potential and not potential one which can make us earn nor loss.
6603  Economy / Economics / Re: How to teach kids about Bitcoin? on: November 19, 2016, 10:41:43 AM
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/9-ways-kids-smarter-money-100050132.html

This article doesn't talk about bitcoin but it got me thinking how to get kinds interested in bitcoin within the context of appropriate money management lessons. Think of we could teach kinds about it. The growth, the adoption, the inflation and retraction. The allure of the "internet money".

...what other ideas come to mind?
In my opinion, we should not tolerate kids to initiate in the bitcoin industry. Not only because their instinct is just to play, we do not teach them the appropriate money management. Yet, bitcoin would help but not appropriate for kids. By simply teaching them the proper discipline like saving 20 percent savings from their allowance, it may hep them to be more disciplined in holding  money.

There is no problem if you will let your kid learn all about bitcoins but just learn to know their limitations that is suitable for their age.

By teaching them saving money by claiming into different faucets could be a good idea and it will make them encourage to keep on saving/claiming.

But let them do it only with their free time not on a daily basis and always make their studies priority.
In my understanding kids are minors, honestly it's not really good to teach them about bitcoin because there are many restrictions that you should teach them, they might use it in illegal activities like gambling so you will have problem then. It's better safe to wait for the right age until they become adult.
agree with you say that small children are not ready to accept all this, I'm sure even if you are forced to tell them, I'm sure they would not know about bitcoin


Im sure if you teach them truly and mixed with patience they would actually learn more about bitcoins and its good for them to learn this one since they can learn how to earn money in decent way, but also it could turn wrong since it would surely steal there childhood, while instead they are playing well here they are joining the fuds who earning bitcoins, but totally all of this decision depends on their parents and the child if they would pursue it or not.
6604  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: what is definition gambling in your mind? on: November 18, 2016, 02:35:05 PM
Many people said the gambling is just a game and another people said it is Investment. How do you think?  Roll Eyes
Gambling for me is risking too much money to win big money too if you don't risk money then you can't really make money too it's like vice versa only sometimes the more we risk our money the more we get also but if in investment i don't think so that it will really accurate with what you think.


The mindset of people truly similar for that thoughs but although there's a risk facing at them surely people will keep gambling since the fun and excitement what gamblers can get is totally good for themselves, thats why i really think that gambling is just a fun phase thing for us and doesnt need to be serious up since we will lose our money if greed will prevail to us.
6605  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Good online-cloud mining on: November 18, 2016, 11:16:48 AM
Hi!

I am new, an i am looking for good online/cloud mining websites. Where you can Mine BTC online.

You know any good Sites?


Since you are new for this kind of scheme well much better for you dig up some past pages so you can actually learn and read from those past and looken up the bad feedbacks against cloudmining, so you can decide for yourself to avoid it since its truly not worth it to invest on, cloudmining is bad business for now so you shouldn't not look for anything like that, just learn to trade maybe you can earn with that doings.
6606  Economy / Marketplace / Re: How to make 1 bitcoin in a month or 2? on: November 18, 2016, 09:35:05 AM
Without any investment? Why you don't want any investment?
Also you have a time limit, Listen man, if you wanna earn 1 bitcoin within 2 month also without any investment, than should do hard work for earning the bitcoin.
But i have both easiest ways and One has a high risk and that is Gambling, in a short time, you can earn from gambling but as you know, you can lose your amount.
Secondly, only buy 1 bitcoin and hold it and wait to increasing price and than sell it.     


I won't suggest him to play on gambling since he can lost more money if he isn't lucky enough to hit those big pots, and that would be the baddest idea since there's no guarantee that we can generate some money on their, and i think 1 to 2 btc is achievable even if we don't have some investment to put on and the only thing we need to do is seek for oppurtunities right here and also on outside in this furom,
6607  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is the most profitable type of gambling? on: November 17, 2016, 02:09:31 PM
According to me, Sports betting is most profitable. In some matches the odds might be small yet the chances of winning the bet are very high. Now what matters would be the amount of your stake, also there different markets to choose from and you can place parlay/accumulator market whereby with a small stake one can win huge amounts, yet the chances of winning the bet are small. Even though there are small , with research and analysis the chances of winning can be increased and minimize risk.


I would agree for sportsbetting is the most profitable among other gambling betting games/sites if you really know the type of sports you are betting on and also the odds are great if you actually hit those teams whos strong but out numbered of bets by some other people, and also sportsbetting will be a safe place for bettor to play on since you dont need to risk some bets to expirements such things to win like on dice sites.

You are not totally right. Do you know that sport betting also have house edge? However, you are good in prediction then you can increase your chance of winning and can overcome the odds. That is where some people can get profit from it. On the other hand, for dice, you cant control the outcome so you can just purely rely on luck.

I know that there is an houseedge but think of it, if you know the players of each team and great knowledge about who is stronger and who is not i think that is high percentage for you to win thats why i can say that sportsbetting is truly the easiest way to gambling with, and expectation to won in dice is blurry and no guarantee at all thats why i cannot really say that we can earn good with it since luck is the only one we hold for that game to win.
6608  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Yobit.net withdrawal problem on: November 17, 2016, 11:07:21 AM
So I've recieved a reply from yobit support:"Button will earn in the near future." 

in the near future...

This is terrible answer and terrible relation to their user. What does that mean, next day, week or month? Very unprofessional.
But since the Yobit is in.question I'm not actualy surprised because they have problems very often but their custommer support is pure horror. I know this is not much of a comfort for you.

I've offer to work as a tech support to improve this god forsaken yobit support sector. Cheesy
It will be going well in the future. If yobit has accepted your intention. I can imagine the support will be better.  Cheesy

haha trust me, I know how the support can be clogged, I've been working as a gamemaster and a forum moderator for one wow private server, and it can be a hell of a job if you let the tickets pile up, but this is just ridiculous. Cheesy


It well be hell if they let the problems pile up for months and didn't take action for it immediately, but i don't see any hassle if they well attain the problem as soon as they can and i think that would be the best thing to do since they build up some business like this, and i am reall an yobit trader before and not satisfied well to their service and flee on to another big exchange, and if they well continue to act like thise well a big possibilities that they will lose some money if their traders will leave their platform.
6609  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is the most profitable type of gambling? on: November 17, 2016, 09:58:21 AM
According to me, Sports betting is most profitable. In some matches the odds might be small yet the chances of winning the bet are very high. Now what matters would be the amount of your stake, also there different markets to choose from and you can place parlay/accumulator market whereby with a small stake one can win huge amounts, yet the chances of winning the bet are small. Even though there are small , with research and analysis the chances of winning can be increased and minimize risk.


I would agree for sportsbetting is the most profitable among other gambling betting games/sites if you really know the type of sports you are betting on and also the odds are great if you actually hit those teams whos strong but out numbered of bets by some other people, and also sportsbetting will be a safe place for bettor to play on since you dont need to risk some bets to expirements such things to win like on dice sites.
6610  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in - Win free Bitcoins every hour! on: November 17, 2016, 09:18:15 AM
It is jist a fwicet. Not a good place to play with you deposit. There is no bonuses and the house edge will be very high as compared to the gambling and casino sites across this forum.

" Probably one of the biggest faucet right now on the market". You could doubt their games but still you could not deny the fact that they are probably the biggest faucet operating right now. This is good for free users like us and i guess you were just a free user as well.
I think this site is very good for beginners and to seek their fortune in order to get bigger on this site, so I feel no need anymore to give bonuses, see they've given Lottrey were so promising and faucet, for all who take part in Lottrey and the faucet .. Smiley


This site could be their practice playground to familiarized the plays on dice games but not recommended to put some initial deposit since house edge is to big to handle for new comers, they need to settled only for using the faucets rewards so they will not lose for certain time of bets, and also i don't know how lottery works for them since i am not really unto that thing but i dont see any people posted up here that they win in that game or maybe i miss those past threads since its so many to read backs those past pages.
6611  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: TVE | TheViralExchange | P2P Marketing | Earn BTC with Social Media | on: November 17, 2016, 08:36:20 AM
I suggest you increase the value of 1 viral point, because it is very cheap compared with other altcoins, whereas we get 2 Stratis which worth about 30k sat for one retweet, while we get 1 viral point (1600 sat) for the same action, I hope you consider my suggestion because that will bring more users to your site.


I agree with you and surely if viral points well be cheaper those altcoin devs will select to use viral points rather than givng their tokens since they can pay cost lesser if they select the viral points and it will be bad since the site users gain so low and actually it can annoyed and turn out quiting to use this platform, just try to reach up our suggestion since it may gonna help your cause.
6612  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: Seeking to Buy Used Antminer S7 - Bulk on: November 17, 2016, 08:00:46 AM
Hello fellow miners,

We have about 200kW of spare capacity, and seek to fill it with ~150 Antminer S7.

This is a great time to sell your S7. If you have been thinking what to do with your lots of S7 - before difficulty rises to 50e12 and the S9 drops to $300 a piece Smiley - give us a shout at Games@AmityGames.com

You might be laughing at my exaggeration, but if you had a large mine full of S4/SP20 earlier this year, you know exactly what I mean.

Serious contact only, for large batches. We are based in Oregon and prefer sellers within driving distance. Can travel to WA/OR/CA/NV/ID for pickup.

Thank you!


I think you cannot find sellers here since this thread is made for project developments and etc, just try to move your thread in goods,auction or maybe on services  section maybe you can find sellers out there and that sections are more vesible to many people they are going on that place if they need anything here, and also why don't you try to go on ebay? And dont forget  to use escrow if you choose to deal with people on here.
6613  Economy / Gambling / Re: SPORTSBET.IO - Place where you can bet with bitcoins on: November 16, 2016, 01:26:17 PM
Quite a few people have written negative things in the last few pages. I just wanted to say that since the launch i've been enjoying myself betting on their site and live chat support has been very helpful with all the questions i've had.

The only negative feedback is about their odds. They advertise that they offers the best odds but in fact it is not the best at all. Imo, their low odds has recovered by their great promotion every month.


And also the negative feedback they got is due their site downfall and totally theirs so many people numbing and posted some bad thoughs and speculates that sportsbet is scam, but as i've see for now well they are quitely running smooth for now and have a great promotions wich is good so they can cover up the past bad inquires, sportsbet should give and sustain proper budget for advertising so the numbwrs of bettors will increase.
6614  Economy / Speculation / Re: Stranger Things on: November 16, 2016, 01:03:46 PM
There has been a lot of memes, and protests against Mr Trump. There is one among them which keeps on going through my mind again and again. The one which says Obama will be the last president of USA. Now another theory says there will be need of aliens announced and with that a new 3rd world War is coming and this war has been predicted long back. So what does this mean for the Bitcoin world, what if usa splits, aliens show up and the war begins. Will Bitcoin crash, will Bitcoin remain up and running.

https://www.google.com/amp/yournewswire.com/baba-vanga-foretold-donald-trumps-demise-obama-to-be-last-us-president/amp/?client=ms-android-xiaomi

what the alien? i think its not about aliens, i think its about new 3rd world war is coming because i read on the newspaper trump have a plan to turn back home all the troops which in korea to comeback home and if this is really happen, then south korea and north korea will not be easy to be calm down and it will make a chaos when they have playing with their nuclear.

Well e cannot say that it will turn chaos since i don't see any american troops barricading their hatred to each others and surely eventhough theres american troops will stay their north korea will still do some nuclear test since it was really happen back on those past months when they already launch some test.
6615  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: the easiest way to make a profit from gambling? on: November 16, 2016, 12:29:08 PM
If you are lucky you will make money easily but you need to learn the basic rule that never put your luck in troubles. That in simple words mean control on your greed and learn to appreciate if you win in early bets and take your wins away. Gambling is not easy in any form to make profit from it.
Let's hope it was easy, and for me when you are lucky you will only win in gambling temporarily but in the end you will still lose. I guess there's no easy way o win in gambling but it's easy to lose. If it's easy then we are all millionaire now and gambling sites are closing.

And that is the truth circulation on gambling, we are really prone to lose if we are only a sole player and im sure that we will get some hardtime to win at them since house edge and badlucks will surely occur in the time we are on betting mode thats the reason we cannot really say that there are an eady way to earn some profits on it since chances are very blurry and we cannot say we can win 100% for that.
6616  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: If You Had 20Bitcoin To Trade With... on: November 16, 2016, 12:07:15 PM
20BTC is big amount, if i have thats amount for trading i will separate my BTC to multiple exchange not only in one exchange:
5 BTC save on my wallet for reserve fund
5 BTC in first exchange for trading btc to fiat
2 BTC in second exchange like poloniex for trading altcoin
2 BTC in third exchange like bittrex for trading altcoin too
1 BTC in fourth exchange like c-cex for trading altcoin
5 BTC invest in a couple interesting ICOs
but all activity have risk but have big profit too if we have good strategy

i really doubt you can maximize the potential of those amount which is separated into various affair,sometimes focusing in one thing is more good than multitasking but the result can't maximal,i guess putting the funds for altcoin trading in one exchanger is just enough


Actually if you focus on one things and put all your money unto it well high possibilities for you to lose all you've got if something bad happens to that site and much better if we separate our money to different platforma so if one will turns down surely we can have another one to accumulate those losses we get from those bad schemes,
6617  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Yobit.net withdrawal problem on: November 16, 2016, 11:51:52 AM
So I requested withdraw from yobit more than 5 days ago, wrote 4 support tickets by now asking when they are going to send my coins to my wallet but I havent received any answer so far. Withdrawal is in process so no confirmation should be needed. How do I get my coins back.

this is the reason why you haven't received your coins:
alt, Waves to be more specific

yobit is the worst exchange that you can find, if you check their wallets you can see that there is only a handful of them operational with the rest in maintenance which lasts forever.
and Waves is one of those coins, if you check the wallet it says Online but it can not find the last block which means it is offline and probably will never come back online again.

As you said its trully the worst exchange and i cannot really trust them interms of alt withdrawals or anything since they will not cover you up if you will get compensate to their site, and their support services totally annoyed me since they are super slow one and thats the reason why i really afraid to do same trades aswell as arbitrage, we need to be carefull for them since i think we will surely get some headache for trading at them Smiley
6618  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Yobit.net withdrawal problem on: November 16, 2016, 10:53:35 AM
Thats totally a big problem in yobit alt withdrawals are mere compromised and i think you will get a hard time to contact them and also the best thing you can do is to post on their own thread and pm the account of devs here, so they can easily attain your problem and maybe fix it quickly but i doubt it will be quick since they are like turtle when fixing some issue in their site.
6619  Economy / Services / Re: Magic Tricks for Bitcoin on: November 15, 2016, 11:39:49 AM
Offering my services. Selling magic tricks or solutions on how they did it. I will try to figure it out.

Do you know how to make love spell?  I want a girl but she does not like me . I want her to be my wife and the mother of my children. Can you do it for me  plsss?

I don't know if i laugh or feel pity for you,  and maybe the thing you need to do is to court here always so you can get her heart in good ways but if not well move on, but actually i've read some books on how to create an love spell and that book would be find on deepweb since it is banned and i already deleted the pdf copy of that book so you must dive there and seek for that one if you really like, but i don't think its workibg since i don't truly believes on spells and whatsoever.
6620  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Cloud mining that real mining? on: November 15, 2016, 10:33:43 AM
See the topic how to choose a legit cloud mining operator!

Legit? Well i don't think theres existing one's since i know cloudminings are scam and actually you can actually do some research about it, they are intend to scam people and no proper info about their business locations and people behind their what so called business and thats a red flag for me to call them scam and yet it is proven by many cloudminings passes by and yet scam many people, and also think that cloudmining is a dead business its not worth it to put up in their.

 For you it is cooller to loose money quickly in Forex or
Binnary options. What an expert  Grin


Lol! How come you mentioned forex and binary in my post? Are you nuts, try to read what i am talking about right there so you could see the proper content of my words and don't be so fool you know how to read right? My post is all about cloudmining and nothing else added colors right there just widen your eyes so you wouldn't be wrong again on quoting some message.
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