You make some great points. Unfortunately PCGS and NGC are not interested as the risk vs reward is not favorable.
What's the risk, if I might ask? I get that the reward might be pretty small, but I'm not seeing how grading crypto tokens is risky, at least any more so than traditional coins. Both NGC and pcgs guarantee the authenticity of the coins they grade. If you buy a coin in one of their slabs and it turns out to be fake they pay you the market value of the coin as if it was real. That would be most unfortunate for them if a seiries of loaded coins were swept after they graded them. Right, but as you pointed out yourself they don’t guarantee the authenticity of denarius coins..why couldn’t it be the same where it’s a sub sector simply with a different set of rules? We also have to remember they charge more than ANACS & who’s to say the couldn’t tack on a little extra “crypto” fee..I’d be okay with that if reasonable. If they don’t seriously consider it they’re fools. In today’s world businesses are constantly branching in to new sectors that have nothing to do with their core business. That isn’t even the case here. It makes too much sense to me.
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#’s 2 and 3 please ..will PM shortly. Thx!
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These are cool and forgot to grab one when you sent me the link MJ. Curious do the “coins” detach?
They do not. They are attached as a whole piece w/ a peg at the bottom. Looks like the peg is slightly glued to keep the anchored. There is a small recess underneath that would fit maybe a small LED to light it up. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) They are also numbered and signed by the artist (a little hard to see, but on the right side of the black piece) Nice thanks! I like where you’re headed with that LED idea.
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7 @ .05BTC 9 @ .05BTC 11 @ .05BTC
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Is there really any way that these two companies revenues have not being going down at least a little over the past few years? A struggling collector hobby which is rapidly loosing it's main customer base. Which should be telling when in the past decade the world's economies have mostly been booming.
Just FYI, I've been an investor in CLCT for a while now, which is the PCGS company, and their stock price has tanked as of late and they cut their dividend in half recently. They're in trouble. So my opinion is that it absolutely would not hurt for them to be approached by the crypto coin community to see about grading some of these great tokens (that's the difference in their eyes, these are not "coins"). I'm actually kind of surprised that they haven't jumped on board with this yet. Usually if a competitor is making money from something, a la ANACS, a company will follow suit. As I said, I'm not part of this community. Have either PCGS or NGC issued any kind of guidance regarding this? Has anyone approached them? Wow- I always just assumed they were private like NGC. They absolutely got hammered in early Feb. I'd say branching in to other sectors WITHIN their playing field could and would make a lot of sense. I've not seen anyone say they've had any sort of serious dialog with either company.
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Physical crypto was never my thing, but for the brief years that I was somewhat of a coin collector I learned that ANACS is a 3rd tier grading company. Their old slabs, the small white ones, were actually pretty, and the grading was pretty spot-on. Then somehow those slabs morphed into these testicle-twisted monstrosities, which are apparently being still further degenerated in aesthetic quality as time goes on, and their reputation for accurate grading is swirling around in the same bowl. Figures. ICG? If I recall correctly, that was one grading company coin collectors advised absolutely staying away from. It's a company that's probably being run out of a school for the blind, that's how fucking off they have a reputation for being. Man, if I were you guys I'd petition PCGS and NGC to start grading crypto coins. They're the only ones who are really trusted in the traditional coin community, and their slabs don't look like they've been heat-warped. Just my opinion--and it's obviously one from someone who doesn't collect physical crypto--I'd probably keep the coins raw rather than send them in for grading, at least until a more reputable company can do it. As wheelz1200 has pointed out, there's that potential for theft once the coin is out of your hands, and a lot of these I would imagine have very high "intrinsic value" attached to them in the form of being loaded with bitcoin/doge/whatever. I'd be a bit paranoid as well. You can even see it in the slabbed coin. Anyone would be pissed to buy this as MS69! ![Cry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cry.gif) I believe you; they probably dropped it and said "fuck it". To my eyes and from that picture, it doesn't look that bad. I've seen MS69 coins with more flaws than that, so I've come to believe that a coin that was never intended to be circulated has to be extremely defective in order to earn anything lower than that. I'm sure the graders don't have all the time in the world to spend on any given coin and don't take any more time than they have to to examine one. I agree. I think it's absolutely worth our time approaching PCGS & NGC. Why not, right? I don't know if there's any best way of approaching them but I'll happily write up emails or whtvr..a petition of some sort maybe? Is there really any way that these two companies revenues have not being going down at least a little over the past few years? A struggling collector hobby which is rapidly loosing it's main customer base. Which should be telling when in the past decade the world's economies have mostly been booming.
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These are cool and forgot to grab one when you sent me the link MJ. Curious do the “coins” detach?
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I was wondering what makes this so special? What is the serial number on the $1 bill? Do you have anymore of these? Did you think of taking these to a dealer to get appraised? Would you trade for a kennedy 1964 in brilliant uncirculated condition?
It's just one of the few things the US Mint has made of late that I actually liked. This was a 3 part series (while popular they discontinued the series cuz that's what the US mint does). ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FYkw1nW0.jpg&t=665&c=VqBRWaoTqRkYKA) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FsidjP12.jpg&t=665&c=h_TUKTTt9AvzQQ) I've got quite a few of these. There is something special about the serial number and I completely forget what it is. I will look in to that and let you know. No need to get these appraised. I might be open to a trade kill kill
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I've got quite a few of these. Looking for $10 a piece (of course paid in BTC). Shipping will be paid by buyer. I normally ship USPS which is very affordable and will charge exactly what it costs me. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FamuDSLV.jpg&t=665&c=XgbFbzKzDVFFMA) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FQ5RzGiR.png&t=665&c=-ryx62T7ZWNTHg)
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.001BTC escrow w/MinerJones
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The only thing I've seen in regards to chip mintage is the 6 chip set ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F4Ro0qVG.jpg&t=665&c=qI81D1SalFk4Uw) I wonder if the 5 & 2 chip sets were the same mintage. Also curious if anyone who bought rolls had any sort of mintage on those. Sorry to eat up your thread here jupityr
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Can anyone provide mintage numbers?
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Not sure how I'm going to load it, but look forward to doing so!
I'm glad it arrived! I was just thinking that it'd be difficult to return your silver bar if there were complications with the postal service. (picture of part of your bar below) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FlX1FEsK.png&t=665&c=Lj6-pSPAzTzzvA) Haha glad we had no complications ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) That looks great!
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High bid for those hard of view ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) LMFAO, sorry, that was odd, I thought ChiBitCTy had corrected his bid! ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) Edit .026 Lesson learned Owlcatz..never follow my lead ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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Depending on how well kept the coin and hologram are, you might be able to get a couple hundred USDs. I’ve not seen any at auction here in a while.
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Does this coin still have the hologram ?
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