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6621  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Fees on Dormant Accounts on Crypto Gambling Platforms on: December 10, 2022, 01:05:29 AM
This shouldn't be a case to call for alarm, reason being that you have the option of atleast logging in your account and making just one bet in a year.
I see no reason why one should have a funded account and in 365 days, you don't make any use if it, why then was the account created. One if the company even stated that a message will be sent after 3 months of inactivity which is fair enough to me and the penalty for not use it month even after a notification is still fine.
If you no longer want to use the casino, then you should make a withdrawal until you're ready and not store funds.
Most sites will also statebit clear to you that you're not allowed to use your gambling wallet in place of a bank and funds not meant for playing shouldn't b stored and I guess that's the reason for the actions they take.
We don't need to keep funds for long to avoid things we don't want. Even though we play gambling quite often, if we get a win, we must immediately withdraw it and maybe if you want to leave money in your account, leave a small amount that you can afford. This is to anticipate if we forget our account or do not want to continue playing gambling at the casino. But some gamblers want to try one casino site and only play a few times, then leave it and hopefully, they don't leave a huge amount of money behind.
There are some cases like from one of my friend who seldom gamble on certain sports and E-sports event like a few times per year. Unfortunately, on his case, he only withdraw certain amount and leave the rest of his balance on the account as his partner doesn't know about his gambling activities. As he said, that is also for convenience of not depositing whenever he'll gamble and avoid not spending it or allocating gambling funds whenever he needed to.

Good for him, that the gambling platform his betting on doesn't charge for any inactivity fee on his account. I've also confirmed it to him since he recently bet on some E-sports event after not gambling for almost 5-6months.
I think they can leave the rest of the balance in their gambling account but preferably not for large amounts because we will never know if it is a good thing or if it can put us at risk. Indeed it comforts us because we don't have to deposit money too often to gamble, but we also have to remember its risks. Do not let us regret one day because of the risk.

But as for this inactivity fee, I guess it will depend on the policies of each casino and maybe they will close gambling accounts that have not done any activity for a certain time. And the remaining balance in their account will be considered miscellaneous expenses by the casino.

Well, you are right about that, what happens is that it is a topic that can lend itself to a lot of speculation, those of us who live in the forum know that we are always playing and making sports bets, it is already something natural and normal, only those things how inactivity fees is something that I at least had not considered, but it is important, but I am not sure if something like this appears in the terms and conditions? Yes, I have read it, I have done it so quickly that I did not pay attention to it, I do not know if the policies of the casinos have any global position on this, I think that these things apply to very specific casinos.

6622  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can you still win with free spins? on: December 09, 2022, 11:38:23 PM
Most of gambling casino is giving a lot of free spins to the player who makes a deposit with a designated amount also have designated spins as rewards but the free spins are just bonuses but it doesn't give the same value as your spins just like cents and those free spins more likely having a range from 20$ winnings I'm not saying they are giving with this amount but a possible average of winning, still ideal you have enough budget to play more spins to get a huge amount of multiplier, don't get rely in free spins only its just bonus deposit.
But there are still people who can win more money than they deposited, so they keep trying even though they know they will only be able to win a small amount of money. Maybe they think it's still worth doing so we see some people still chasing bonuses in the form of free spins from the deposit amount determined by the casino. But some people are not enthusiastic about pursuing it because they have their own calculations and it is better to play gambling as usual.
What happens is that some people are only interested in gambling for fun and trying to chase bonuses like free spins seems to them to be another form of work, which is precisely what they are trying to avoid.

So for those people it does not make too much sense to try to pursue free spins, but for those which are trying to reduce their costs as much as possible and the ones that are interested in becoming profitable the bonuses they can receive are critical to achieve their goals.

Well we all know that casinos do not do things to regulate money, the money of a casino is earned, even knowing that they will always have the advantage, it is very difficult to do the opposite, however I have seen many people who always enter with free spins looking for a lot of luck for them to be able to enjoy, but that is something very difficult, rather I think there is much more opportunity to play with our own funds "without the need for bonuses" and play without fear and with great restraint, making a idea that we no longer have that money that we are betting, it is the best strategy, because if it is lost, it is assumed and that's it, but if it is won, I am sure it will be a lot!
6623  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is The Gambling Industry Part Of The Domino Effect That Happens In The Market on: December 09, 2022, 10:54:37 PM
Do you think The Gambling Industry Is Part Of The Domino Effect That Happens In The Market?

If there is a crypto gambling company that kept their funds in whatever platform that filed bankruptcy recently or those that froze withdrawals and went insolvent or bankrupt because of it, then the crypto gambling industry is part of the domino effect. Otherwise, I don't think they are; business runs as usual.

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Will the industry lose the trust of gamblers if one or two casinos scammed their players by closing down and running with what money they have that belongs to the gamblers?

A good amount of trust must be lost. But I'm sure crypto casinos would come up with a way to assure their players that their funds are kept safe. They might also show proof of reserves.

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As a gambler do you use gambling sites to store your coins like what traders are doing on exchanges?

Yeah, but only small amounts, those that are for betting only. I don't store coins for long-term saving outside non-custodial wallets.

Well clearly this arises because the effect of FTX made a big hole in the way of thinking of many people, some of the investors who had their BTC there lost, and that is something that is not good for anyone, because of centralism and power is not something that I see very well, I think everyone can survive by playing fair, I think we all know here who did not play fair to get FTX out of the way, however this taught many that having money in an Exchange that The money does not belong to that person but to the exchange, the only thing that belongs to each person is what they own and keep with their private keys, that is where the trick of all this is.
6624  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Boxing Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: December 09, 2022, 10:34:56 PM
Lol, why this thread suddenly turns into Manny Pacquiao meme? the knock out win of Marquez is already years ago?

There are good fight this weekend regarding Prograis and Zepeda, two hungry fighters who want to get the belt at 140 lbs. And so for the meantime, it might be a "relieve fight" from the failed Spence vs Crawford fight as this could really be a war.

Well, that Pacquiao fight lying there is something that doesn't look very good, with respect to what you say about Crawford vs. Spence, do you think that if Crawford wins his previous fight but Spence loses, do you think this match can take place? If so, do you think Crawford will look for him again? because it's not to speculate too much, but I think Crawford did everything possible to have his fight against Spence, sometimes I don't understand what Spence wants, I sometimes don't see what he's really looking for, Crawford's yes It's clear to me, it's obvious that he wants a rematch at any rate, and I want that to happen quickly.

Money wise, Haney should take this fight instead of moving up. I mean, knowing how fans are eager to see Loma challenging the belt holder, for sure it can easily be sold to all those fans who are waiting for this fight to take place. Though it's still Haney's camp to decide whether to negotiate and sign this mandatory fight or to move up and find another alternative to avoid fighting.

It is a wise decision to fight Loma first before moving up.  I bet Haney's camp is considering the money flow options since fighting Loma will definitely cater lots of audiences, it may possibly be one of the best selling PPV that year because their fight has long been awaited by fans and spectators.

All will be decided when both camps signed the deal and the promoters start to market the fight between these two top fighters.

I do hope that Haney will give Loma a chance to have a shot on the title before Haney consider to move up in division. And it would be a shame and a lost of huge money if Haney decided to move up just to evade Lomachenco.

well Haney is not a total fighter, he knows what he has to do, he has to be 100% of everything to be able to have a good fight against Loma, also, this fight would draw the attention not only of the most fans but of practically everyone The bettors will be delirious with this match so good and so gratifying, for me it will be one of the best if it happens, obviously I think that I would go for Hanney here because he has much more experience and I think he could know how to handle the situation, for me It is something that has a lot to do with what Hanney wants to show here, Loma is an opportunity that he also has to show that he is here to stay.
6625  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - 2nd Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: December 09, 2022, 07:52:15 PM

Heidenheim would actually be an interesting club for the first Bundesliga. They have competed quite well over all those years, but there was just a little bit missing all the time. I would like to see them in the first league though. It is a nice club and the Bundesliga can need some fresh blood and new faces.

It is also interesting to see these underdogs play against the big teams like Bayern Munich. Would be an interesting game for sure!

i wouldn't like to see this club promoted to the first bundesliga. i'd rather go to st.pauli,hsv,kaiserslauter,nürnberg,braunschweig or düsseldorf.
they have a lot more fans and many of these fans travel with them to the away games. heidenheim brings 300 fans with them.
st. pauli or hsv 3000 or 5000 fans or more. there's a lot more atmosphere in the stadiums. that also brings a lot more money into the clubs' coffers.

bayern münchen : heidenheim after 93 minutes  in 2023 : 8:1  Grin Grin


Yes it is more attractive for fans if their are full stadiums with passionate people, but Hamburg failed so hard at getting promoted to the first Bundesliga that I would appreciate another, new club getting a chance. Also if a team like Heidenheim makes it in the end, don't they truly deserve it when they compete successfully with clubs like Hamburg or St. Pauli? This is also what soccer is about. Otherwise why let anyone be promoted or relegated anyway if there is no point in allowing smaller clubs to also thrive and perhaps establish themselves in the first Bundesliga?

Well, they both have their point of view, what happens is that sometimes when the 2nd Bundesliga has been followed with such intensity, since last season and this season, one usually thinks that there are some teams that are not in the top but that it is unfair that they keep them out of classification, for example StPauli has made many dream of reaching the Bundesliga, Heidenheim of the result against Bayern because there are not many to rescue much from there, really 8 goals is too much, well I don't consider it good and I believe that they lack a lot to be within the level required by the Bundesliga, so it is as you say, sometimes the other teams may have better preparation, but unfortunately they are not in the top positions.
6626  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: gambling techniques on: December 09, 2022, 03:20:49 PM

many have lost their minds due to gambling addiction. even those who say they use the technique in playing, when they get out of control, the strategy will not affect the outcome. all that remains is to bet on an outcome of our luck. just run the bet until our money runs out. when finished then exit. no need to feel emotional and want to beat the bookies. just come back tomorrow with better luck.
Addiction can take away our common sense, we will even forget about our own control, it will cause excessive emotionality and not be responsible for defeats after they realize at the end of the game, so indeed, with any technique that is practiced in the game, it will not give good results good because gambling games are based on luck, not on techniques that are practiced.

One thing we have to apply in gambling and I always have my own principle that gambling games are for fun and the rest shouldn't get emotional or become stressed after losing nor can you expect excessive profits.
If you are a person whose emotional and easily do get influenced by things and doesnt have that self control then you would really make yourself get addicted so easily which is really something that dangerous
if you do keep yourself on dealing or engaging with gambling.There are techniques and strategies which you could really make use of but dont make yourself do come into a point where you do push
up yourself believe that it is really that working.

Addiction could really make yourself numb or taking away that awareness inside you which if you dont have that strong self control then you would really be
falling into this problem where you do become desperate on using up everything and do try to prove out that its working.

Well, what you say is true, what happens is that when a person is addicted it is difficult for them to take advice, because they are people who believe that everything is said to them as wrong, and it is not like that, you also have to try to understand them that they do not it is not easy to get out of an addiction that can consume a large part of the good things in life, I think that an addicted person should allow themselves to continue playing but little, that is, if it lasts 3 hours in a casino, they should start playing 1 hour and 30min, then go down to 1 hour, and so on until you begin to replace the activity of the casino with other things, with a sport, ´to go out, if you have a family you have to go out with the family, things like that that can gradually go out of that.
6627  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: I Am So Done With Betting Until.... on: December 09, 2022, 02:47:04 PM
Sometimes the team or a fighter that's almost sure to win loses. It's very common in MMA where you have fighters that can be 10-0 or even 20-0 and there comes a day when they end up defeated.
Saudi Arabia caught everyone by surprise so if it helps you sleep at night know that many other people also lost money betting on this game. Shit happens, but life goes on.
Well, I don't know if you saw the talk that the coach gave the Arabs, it was something impressive, it motivated them so much that they came back, I think that using Messi and with what he told him that they had to take photos made them react, this is something that shows that every human being can do things if he has the full conviction to do so, the most important thing is that they demonstrated it worldwide, because the fact that Saudi Arabia shone above the Argentines with so much history in football is something impressive, Just like what happened to the Germans, I think that at the football level there are no excuses, the one who loses is because he played less well than the opponent, we have to accept that the surprises in the World Cup are not so surprises, because they are there for a reason .

6628  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2022/23 on: December 09, 2022, 01:34:03 PM
Depay contract with Barcelona has entered its final year, Barcelona tried to release Depay in last summer's transfer but ended up staying because there was no agreement with another club. Barcelona have put Depay on the Sell list in the January transfer window to avoid Depay leaving on a free transfer.
It is better for Depay to leave than to stay at Barcelona, it is very difficult for him to get minutes to play at Barcelona because Xavi believes more in other players such as Lewandowski, Dembele, Raphinha, Ansu Fati and Ferran Torres. Galatasaray really want to bring Depay from Camp Nou, Depay must make the best decision for his future.
I don't think Depay is priority by Xavi Hernandez keep extended his contract after arriving Xavi as Barcelona manager,  Depay found difficulty to be main squad. I think with Depay contract in Barcelona until in the summer of 2023 he has chance early leaving on January window transfer. Depending with Barcelona want to make Depay become free agent and keep extended him until contract over or take opportunity for selling Depay on next window transfer.

Loss compete with Ansu Fati, Dembele, Raphinha and Ferran Torres I don't think good ideas for Depay keep extended his contract with Barcelona, maybe if manager change have other opportunity for him get back in main squad for Barcelona.
This season Xavi only playing him twice on Laliga so i think this indicated Depay isn't main priority for Barcelona so it's certain Barcelona will not giving him contract extention especially there are surplus on forward lines in Barcelona so they had a plan to sell Depay this winter even Barcelona provide cheap price for him 5 million euro and they hopes after Depay price tag published some of clubs will interested to him and it doesn't take long that after this news reported he is into Manchester United and Chelsea watchlist and this January these team probably will attempt to bids to get him and for Depay it's time to him to choose new clubs especially if he want to get minutes to play
I still cannot figure out what plans Xavi had for Memphis when he signed him because obviously he has no plan stated for Memphis judging from the number of games he has played for Barcelona this season under Xavi. Obviously with the current situation with Memphis I don't see any reason Barcelona will want to offer him a contract extension meaning he might be put up for sale at any moment.

There are many things that I don't understand about Xavi either and I think that he is wasting many opportunities to let many players who have great potential play, I think that now he has to adjust to the players that he has, because to be honest he has many who are good but who have not been able to take advantage of the players they have, but having Lewa as a base is something that he should do much more for the whole team to play based on him, so I think Xavi has to get into his head that the strategy he was applying is not working for him, that he must do something else to guarantee more games won. surely Real Madrid will be able to buy new players, that will in part guarantee that they can snatch the first place, Ancelotti has enough experience and knows how to come back from the leagues.

I'll be interested to see how the Barcelona players deal with the pressure after returning (in disgrace) from the World Cup. Spain had 8 players from Barcelona and 2 from Real Madrid, obviously the Barcelona players brought with them the habit of losing important games  Grin It is interesting whether this will affect their morale and play at the club level or not.
Yes, I am also looking forward to this, will it have a significant effect on their game in Barcelona, if it is true that the Spaniard was affected mentally in the match against Morocco yesterday, it will have a very bad impact on the stability of Barcelona's game, and of course, the La Liga leader will be replaced immediately if that happens.
Unlike the case with Real Madrid players who only have two representatives, Dani Carvajal and Marco Asensio, of course, this will not affect the players at Real Madrid.
An additional negative factor is that before the first games in La Liga, which could possibly help to forget what happened, it is still far away and the players will think about what happened for the rest of the time until the resumption of the Spanish championship. By the way, Lewandowski also does not have the mentality of a winner - in a completely lost game, he rejoiced like a child at a goal scored (the score became only 3-1 and Poland went home).

I really hope that Barcelona will be able to start fresh. This does sound like it is quite impossible. But I hope the Barcelona players who played for Spain will be able to forget what happened in the World Cup and start playing well for Barcelona.

Actually, this is great motivation for them to play well in club competitions. They lost against a rather weak opponent in the World Cup and got knocked out. That should be unlimited motivation for them. The thing is the players will choose how they use that emotional drive. They can be sad and cry about what happened in the World Cup. Or they can man up and say that they cannot change the past. But they will have to prove by performing in the future.

Yes, maybe this is a big motivation for every individual who is able to look ahead and ignore this incident anymore. apart from motivating himself, Of course, the Barcelona official must provide a motivational boost that makes them rise again not drag on in sadness, unlike the case in 2018, representatives from Barcelona only 4 players for Spain out of 14 players who entered the world cup with different countries, of course, this doesn't have a moral burden of trust from the squad.

I also hope to be better for Barcelona and the players who represent it can consume that match as motivation to become better and be able to ignore the media or those around them who say bad things.

Sometimes the soccer players are very affected by their mood, overcoming a team that, well, they were not expected to beat them, is something that is difficult to overcome, Spain's expectations were very high, it was something that could be handled like the greats. What could they do for now, of course if we handle everything from another perspective, it's not that the players were completely to blame, they didn't bring the most experienced players in Spain, and that's something that Luis Enrique doesn't do because he He has in his mind the silly idea of the rivalry between Real Madrid and Barcelona, the failure is partly for them, but it is difficult to overcome certain things at times, however, you have to get ahead, Spain has a lot to give, it is a pity not see Spain in the quarterfinals, but I think they made their own luck.


A movement by Florentino:

Real Madrid: Los Blancos could swoop for Nico Williams in January



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The 20-year-old winger featured off the bench for Spain in their disappointing World Cup campaign in Qatar but has been impressive this season with three goals and four assists in La Liga.

After missing out on Kylian Mbappe in the summer and with Marco Asensio’s contract running out at the end of the season, a right-winger is on the agenda for Los Blancos and the Pamplona-born star is seen as a perfect fit.

Source: https://thisisfutbol.com/2022/12/blogs/la-liga/real-madrid-club-swoop-nico-williams-january-spain/
6629  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: December 09, 2022, 06:03:42 AM
After the world cup is over, soon the transfer window will also open again for all teams who want to sign new, better players and of course Bayern Munich itself will also see this as a very good opportunity, although it will not immediately let go of the players they still have. need after the world cup. Injuries are a very big barrier for players who are often used in the team so that the team will still make other options in order to support better performance when players who are still relied upon still have to undergo a recovery period.
Bayern Munich, in the transfer window which will open in January next year, of course, will buy several players who they think are very meaningful, for example, Konrad Laimer. Bayern Munich will buy Konrad Laimer, maybe to strengthen the central defense which they think is still easy to break by opposing forces.

Well not only the defense, I think Muller needs a partner in the forward, I don't know what Bayern's plans will be, but I think there may be many changes that occur, if rather they don't try to sell players and then acquire more, I don't know, I think that Bayern can do more things and have some plans that we don't know about, the directors of Bayern don't want to lose the game against Barcelona for anything in the world, even if that means that after the World Cup the players will be very tired , so that is something that they have to take advantage of, the case of Barcelona is going through a moment that they should take advantage of, I think that both teams need that victory.
Musiala wont leave Bayern Munich anytime soon,i think that he will stay in the club for a very long time and he is their project. Bayern Munich always makes a team for a couple of years in advance. Musiala can only leave the club if he isnt attracted to play in the bundesliga.
Jamal Musiala career at Bayern Munich is still quite good and has good achievements, whereas if someone offers him a high price I'm sure Bayern Munich will let him go to increase their finances, this is the same as when Bayern Munich released Robert Lewandowski to Barcelona.

I don't think Bayern Munich will want to leave Jamal Musiala. Lewandowski was not released by Bayern Munich to make money, Lewandowski was not interested in staying with Bayern Munich and the Munich management let him go. But Jamal Musiala is a very promising player. He is only 19 years old. If Munich is able to develop this player properly, he could become the star player of the future.

I also agree with all these statements, for me Jamal Musiala should not go and the truth is that I don't think the Bayern board wants it, in fact he has many things going for him, his age and many things that they can give as one of the best treasures that they have, this is something that they can keep in mind so as not to sell, for me they will give him better salary conditions, because he is a diamond in the rough and at Bayern he is developing very well, Muller may very soon be I left soccer, he already said goodbye to the German team, so they need to have the players with the best conditions and one of them is skill and age, Jamal Musiala fully complies with them.

Don’t let Germany’s elimination overshadow Jamal Musiala running the show vs Costa Rica, he was unplayable



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Jamal Musiala ran the show for Germany during their 4-2 win over Costa Rica but ultimately wasn’t able to prevent his team from World Cup elimination.

Heading into Group E’s final round of matches, the 2014 champions knew they needed to win and hope Spain avoid defeat against Japan.

However, Spain were stunned 2-1 by a spirited Japan side who ended up finishing top of the group.

Source: https://www.sportbible.com/football/jamal-musiala-germany-costa-rica-world-cup-776190-20221202
6630  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Running a casino during crypto crash on: December 09, 2022, 05:08:53 AM

It seems to me that today you will not find a single online casino that would provide financial reports to their users, and not every casino will agree to do it for security reasons. Of course you can demand it from the casino but not the fact that they will do it.

Most Casino does not reveal who their owner is, what more their financial statement.  I think we need a court order in order for a casino to show us their financial statement and proof of fund but I believe it will need a good reason for the court to grant our wishes.

As far as I know Vitalik Buterin proposed recently to develop mechanisms that would be able to confirm the financial component without the need to publish addresses where the funds are stored.  

This is quite interesting, somehow I am curious to see how this plan works and if the company will adopt this plan in order for the public to know their financial capability.  As much as I like the idea I believe only a few followers of Butering will adopt this plan.

Casinos will definitely have their own significant amount of bankroll value, otherwise they cannot stand alone and continue to operate because of lack of funds. But knowing the house will always win, then it’s impossible to see casinos losing their high amount of bankroll value. Even if the market is in a crash, I don’t think that will affect the casinos because as what I have noticed, gamblers never stop playing and they still bet with good amount.

That should be, Casino must have a reserved fund to support the withrawals of their players especially the big one, but sadly not all casino has the reserve to process high withdrawal.  If we look around the forum, we can encounter several cases where the casino failed to give the amount withdrawn by the player due to lack of funds.



Well, the case of Vitalik Buterin is quite controversial. I understand that everything he has done is to have a more centralized control, that is why my ETH and my casino do not like it.

Regarding the financial situation, I think that no casino is in a position to give it at the request of someone, I think that a user has to be clear about that, the only thing they can give them is the regulatory agents, including governments under which they have jurisdiction , that is something that they do have to account for.

I understand that the licenses are given more than anything by the regulatory agents.

6631  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Boxing: Errol Spence vs Keith Thurman on: December 09, 2022, 04:12:04 AM
^^ Yes, even in the Pacquiao fight, his training or at least when he do the his drills, he is somewhat very slow and not that agile. Maybe that's how Thurman's training is, not focusing on the speed but power because he want's to try to knockout his opponent, and even before he was knock down or lost the fight to Manny, he is known to have that punching power.

So there's no difference it training at all for him, but I think he is more faster that Ugas that Spence recently beat. But has more power behind it. He had Manny in trouble in the later rounds, it's that his weakness was a body punch and when Manny hit him in the stomach, he somewhat wince, meaning he is affected.

I understand what you are saying, I know that some boxers focus on training to their highest potential, in this case it is as you say they want to focus on having more power from the punches, but there are many vulnerabilities when a boxer focuses only on one strategy, if he does not achieve to make a knockout you have to appeal to another plan, but what really fails here is that if you prepare only to knock out you have to get rid of the resistance and from the way you say it, I think neither the time nor the body will reach you You will be able to resist a training so focused on two things, you also have to do things with your diet, it is very different to train for both things, and come out well.



Well, I think many of us know that Spence took this fight as a way to leave Crawford behind and give another view of what his fight could be, here he showed that he will fight Crawford whenever he wants, and I think that for now he can give himself This luxury, I know that Thurman is a boxer who can talk too much, but when he finds himself in the ring with Spence, even if he has said what he has said, if he doesn't know how to do it, I think he will fall, for me there is nothing else, of course. It must be taken into account that in boxing anything can happen and Thurman can obviously win, but to be honest, I see it as very difficult, especially with all the speculations that have been given.
6632  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [BOXING] Manny Pacquiao vs. DK Yoo on: December 08, 2022, 10:50:18 PM
^ Yes, very good point, I think pro boxers getting into exhibitions match are not allowed to have their 5-10 lbs  boxing gloves because it will be fatal for their opponent as they are not pro.

And if I'm not mistaken, Manny during his prime as a pro is using Cleto made boxing gloves which is more of punching glove, meaning impact is big as Manny punch so hard. So just imagine if DK Yoo will take the full force of Manny having his Cleto, that will punishment.

A much heavier special gloves compared to the traditional ones must be worn during these kinds of fight because almost unarguable that there will be some instances that the participants will forget that they are in an exhibition fight and might hurt their foes with their might. Organizers will always make sure the safety first because exhibition fights are just pure entertainment.

And about those Cleto Reyes gloves, yes, Manny Pacquiao used to wear those kinds of gloves when he was still at the height of his career because it gives them so much comfort and some might say that it is almost like you're not wearing anything at all. In fact, many boxing legends prefer to wear Cleto Reyes gloves like Sugar Ray, Mike Tyson, Muhammad Ali and the list goes on.

The truth is I didn't know that the gloves for the exhibition fights had to be heavier, simply as it is an exhibition fight I thought that since it is a practically fixed fight there would be no problem with that, but if I rescue the fact that they have to be heavier Although I don't know, but I think that no matter how carefully they put the gloves on Pacquiao, he has enough strength to be able to pick them up and land a few blows with real power. Of course this is something that should not be assumed, but do you think that an exhibition fight gets out of control and boxers take it as if it were a real fight?

We don't know what's the point of all this after 20 years, Pacquiao's legacy will forever remain intact he earned it he worked for it
Hussein in his interview admits that he is a Pacquiao and he did not blame Pacquiao for what happened the issue is on Padilla, I don't think is a loophole in Pacquiao's greatness, Hussein just needs to forgive Padilla there are politics and cheating in boxing we just have to look on the Horn - Pacquiao match, but Pacquiao takes the fight as it is without blaming anyone.

The eldest daughter of Carlos Padilla, stated that his father's statement were misunderstood, but I think it is not for her to interpret what his father has stated.  It is clear that Padilla stated that they cheated Hussein by making the count delay longer and by stopping the fight regardless of Hussein being able to continue or not. But looking at the video, I do not think there is any cheating that happened.  As stated on the earlier reply, there is no 10 seconds knockdown count rule.   The rule is 10 count knockdown and not 10 sec. count knockdown, it is up to the referee on how long he will count till 10.  The stoppage is already due, the cut of Hussein is too deep that it can result in a permanent damage if the fight continues.

Manny Pacquiao is right, they did not cheat, but they were favored.  besides the statement of Carlos Padilla of extending the count to 18 seconds is wrong. Check the video from Bitcoinpanther reply


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Also check on the timer, He got knockdown on 2:22, possible the count start at 2:21 he got up around 2:13
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[1] https://youtu.be/IdSGC2PmpZU?t=149


Well that is a great clarification, for me there is nothing strange there either, certain things can become shady, but we are talking about one of the best in the world that is Pacquiao, this is something almost conspiratorial, people always want to take advantage of what that is presented, it is very easy to be able to start speaking ill of someone with very little, if that did not explode at that moment, which was when the pot should have been uncovered, now it no longer makes sense, it is a legend, that is like fighting the Maradona's hand in a World Cup when he scored the goal, if at that moment they earned that irregularity nothing can be done today.
6633  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Twitch To Ban Gambling Streaming By October 18th. on: December 08, 2022, 09:45:38 PM
It's fine that Twitch wants to protect its reputation because streamers know why, too.
Streamers will look for other places that can still receive their content so they can still invite their followers to move places too.
Followers will follow wherever the streamer moves because they like the content of that streamer
Yes, i totally agree with this very statement of yours, because in as much as there are many streamers, there are some who does it in a unique way with style that fans wont mind following him or her to any other platforms just to stream his or her content live. And I'm sure if Twitch do not have a rethink about this, they may end up losing more people using their social media, as gambling casinos use to have the most sponsorship on twitch

Well without going too far, in the case of stake.com, with Drake he is an influencer who can go to any platform and I am sure that any of his followers will not mind going where he says, because they are people who already have many followers, fans and twitch is just a platform, it doesn't mean that ´for the platform all the fun and things should continue, it's a shame because I personally like that platform a lot, it's also comfortable and when the internet connection it was slow there was a special buffer function, that's something very comfortable, I'm not the only one who sometimes has a slow internet, so all those functions are what one misses.
6634  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Tank Davis vs. Ryan Garcia betting and discussion (May, 2023) on: December 08, 2022, 07:04:39 PM
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That means that oddsmakers think there is 64% chance of Davis winning while giving Garcia a 36% chance.
I will agree with these odds and bet for Tank.

Compared to Garcia, his combos and movement seem way more composed and technical, and being a southpaw doesn't hurt his changes. While Garcia seem to rely on his natural unpolished talent, and just raw aggressive fast style, using surprisingly quick and powerful attacks even as a defence. Even though those look clumsy compared to Tank, he seem to get ton of power under them somehow.

My guess is that Garcia's style of defence won't work agaisnt technically skilled combos by Tank. Garcia's aggressive style is intimidating but very much defeatable and while his height and reach seem to do add to that and give him confidence, it's all appearances and something that can be taken away fast.

What a great way of describing both boxers, you surely have aced the pie mate!

What you said was correct, Ryan Garcia is just relying on his raw predictable skills, he is just using his speed to create an opening to give deadly punches that will surprise his foes but this will be different because Tank Davis is not yet on his dictionary. He haven't yet fought another boxer who got more skillset and talent than him, that is why Ryan got almost no advantage other than his size which certainly means that his chances against Tank Davis is not that pretty.
And that's what make this fight very interesting and intriguing to say the least. Both has the ability and has his own skillset. Although Ryan is taller, but somewhat he doesn't have the movement, he just chase his opponent and Davis might caught him with his upper cut or even a left hook.

Not sure what Goosen's strategy for Ryan because they really need to have a plan as they can't go right directly on that power of Tank just like what Rolly Romero did. He thinks that he can take Take the power, but he was very wrong because once it hit his chin, it was over. And Ryan jaw has been tested already, although he recuperated, at least he has taste the canvass already and it was a left hook that put him down.
Well, unlike you, I do think that Garcia has a lot of chances of winning, Tank Davis undoubtedly has a lot of strength and is a boxer who has a lot of skill, without scoring any, if I were Garcia I would keep a little distance from him because if he hits one of those hooks will leave me on the verge of a knockout, but of course it is the way I have studied his fighting style, Garcia is more versatile, he has a lot of mobility and he will not get close until he is ready to land accurate blows and that They can do considerable damage to him, because Davis has a lot of technique and I have seen that he knows how to manage round times very well.


Before and after I created this thread, my prediction was always Tank Davis will win because he is the better boxer and the tougher man. However, when I was looking at King Ryan's record more closely, I think he has made the much needed preparations to give him a better than expected chance to win. King Ry has very much prepared himself to fight a 5'6" left handed boxer by fighting 2 left handed boxers in his last 3 fights. The last opponent is Javier Fortuna, he is short and can knockout anyone, having much similarities to Tank. I would laugh at King Ry's bettors last week, however, we cannot laugh if we have studied his preparation more.
If there's a poll in this thread, I would appreciate it.  Smiley
please OP hear me out.

I created the poll, however, only 3 have voted and one of them is me hehehe. My vote is for Ryan Garcia because of the reasons and the speculations that I have shared already.

In any case, @Baofeng, you are one of the boxing news events expert hehe. Would you speculate that this contract dispute of Tank Davis vs. Floyd Mayweather promotions will threaten if this event will happen or not?

I would speculate though that Davis is no longer with Floyd, we all know that the Romero's fight is his last fight with Floyd. Even Floyd says that nothing last forever, so basing on that, for sure he knows that his time with Davis is done already.

So if Floyd and PBC is out of the picture then definitely they have nothing to do with Tank already and he can pursue any fight he wants including the highly anticipated Ryan Garcia fight.

Well if this is so then could this meeting take place? because it must not be denied that Floyd has many contacts and is well recognized, in addition to his influences being quite good in the world of boxing, anyone who is or who is recommended by Floyd from his organization gets more attention than anyone else, However, I think that each one seeks or makes his own luck, if he saw something that he did not like about that organization, he will have good reasons, indisputable, because only those who are involved are the ones who know everything and how things are handled. things at that level, for me there was some clash regarding money, earnings or something.
6635  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The History of Bingo on: December 08, 2022, 05:03:52 AM
I remember my parents taking me to the mall and leaving me in an arcade to play bingo for some time. They are very lucky when it comes to this game and even managed to win an amount equal to $4000 at one point in time. It is one of those gambling games that are too slow to pan out and bets are low. Sometimes the time you spent on playing one isn't even worth it, and definitely not exciting compared to other casino games that are very popular right now. Perhaps the main reason why a lot of elderly people are playing this is because of its slow-paced development that don't require them to be on high alert at all times.


Well, the truth is, I've never won at Bingo, I think that what the ballots say they say very quickly and in the casino where the echo was there it didn't let me hear well, usually the older adults won, I don't know how they did to hear well , but it was something that I couldn't, the day I went I left my friends there and went to play roulette because I really felt that the cards I bought to play bingo had no luck or I simply couldn't play well, so with roulette it was another story, I played better and did things with a better sense, roulette sincerely relaxed me. That is why in a casino one should find a way to relax and not feel pressure or stress.
6636  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: December 08, 2022, 04:07:18 AM
I really hope that Manchester United is bought by oil millionaires like the owners of Manchester City and Newcastle. Manchester United, which is struggling to rebuild its strength, is in dire need of large funds to finance its project. Oil millionaires have been proven to be able to build a better club. I take the example of PSG, Man City and Newcastle. After being acquired by oil millionaires the clubs turned into a scary club.

Newcastle is still in the stage of revamping and has started to show its strength, if Manchester United is taken over by an oil millionaire it will make the competition in the Premier League even hotter.
I cannot understand how people could ever think like this. You are saying "oil millionaires" but first of all they are billionaires, secondly they are not just making that money from oil, they are making it from slave ownership basically and they are free to do whatever they want. Remember that owners from Qatar and Saudi Arabia and all could be very well seen as criminals in any western society, how they live and what they do is absolutely unacceptable by west standards and yet they are freely buying up teams.

It is not really that shocking considering west didn't like Russia attacking neither and made Abrahimovic sell his team, if Arabic owners do something wrong then they can make them sell the team too, but better not to let them takeover first.

Well, after the interview with CR7, who said everything he was experiencing in Manchester, he did make a big fuss, he caused a revolt that very few teams can endure, I personally believe that the CR7 interview and speaking of the truths that were living at Man United, it is obvious that the brothers who run the Club were doing everything wrong, now I wonder, if CR7 did this, why the other players like Alexis Sanchez, Ibrahimovic, among others had never spoken badly about the Club in general , so these are the things that the Manchester fans must acknowledge that they did well, and I will not continue to agree with the owners and a coach who is really taking the team underground.

And so for Ronaldo, it is now more important than the club to perform well in the jersey of Portugal.
However, Portugal's next match is against Switzerland. Switzerland is not a weak team. However, I believe if Ronaldo performs well, Portugal will be able to fend off Switzerland.
Of course Ronaldo has more priority to appear in the world cup with the Portugal national team because if I'm not mistaken, Ronaldo currently without a club. Even though if he is currently a player at one of clubs still will not change his decision to focus more on Portugal, considering that as you said this is his last chance to appear in the world cup (based on Cristiano Ronaldo's current age)

Ronaldo will now focus more on winning the World Cup. Yesterday, in the match round of 16, the Portugal team got a wonderful 6-1 victory against Switzerland. Although Ronaldo did not score any goals, the performance of the other players on the team was very good. Every player in the team continued to push themselves to the maximum to qualify for the World Cup finals. Ronaldo will now want to perform better in the upcoming matches. The people of Portugal will remember Ronaldo forever if he can perform well on the World Cup stage.

Well, what I think of CR7 at the moment is the same, for me he will focus on winning the cup, he has a very good chance of doing it, also the fact of not meeting Brazil or Argentina is one of the greatest advantages or Good luck to the Portugal team.

What happens in all the media is that, as always, they are a little yellowish, some say that he fought with his coach and that the coach punished him by not putting him in, others say that the replacement scored the 3 goals and that it is the end of CR7, I also read that he was going to the Arab team, but we must admit that from the bench, CR7 captured all the eyes of the fans, and the way they asked for it on the pitch was impressive.
6637  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Europa League 2022/23 Season on: December 08, 2022, 03:03:58 AM
Currently, through Arteta's statement, it seems that Arsenal will continue to look for players, especially those participating in the world cup this time, to continue to make them stronger. and indeed this is a good thing, especially since we also know that they have to do something like this in order to continue to strengthen them on every front.
On the other hand, I quite agree with what you said about hoping they find a team that can be said to be easy to face in the draw later, especially if you look at the current condition of the Europa League, it is quite scary because it is filled with several big clubs.
In fact, with many players playing in the world cup, it provides its own advantages because their physical condition is maintained during the one month competition break, but on the one hand, Arteta must also be aware of the condition of players who return to the club later suffer injuries and have to change the composition of the players, especially Arsenal in their performance. which is pretty good at the moment.

Arsenal need waiting for drawing against team on Europe League at next round because waiting result on play off matches, have several team need pass on play off round and Arsenal can't expected which one opponent. Currently Arsenal have ready which one opponent team for next round with consistent performance I believe with Arsenal chance get Europe League trophy in this season.
You have to see my previous post because I have already discussed the problem of injury there and indeed the anticipation is that at this time it seems that Arteta will return to bring several players to the Emirates Stadium in a later transfer and currently there are several players who have been linked with Arsenal even though it is still a rumor. .
On the other hand, for the play-offs, they still have to wait, especially since there are several great clubs that have dropped out of the Champions League, so this is still something to watch out for, especially between Barcelona and Manchester United, the one who wins there will definitely be a champion candidate too.

The truth is that I had also thought the same for me the champion is between these two teams, of course this is something that we could say for now, we do not know if new players will enter or leave in January, well when the transfer window begins there are already many movements that will produce relative changes in the teams and will be quite beneficial for glunos, another team that I see that can be prepared very well will be Juve and Roma, since they are Italian teams that will have everything to come out with a good victory, I have seen improvement in these teams, they have very good players who can make a difference, I think that is the secret of everything.

Manchester United's performance in the group stage was really good? I don't think so. Although Manchester United won 5 out of 6 matches. But they have to fight hard to win every match. Even against comparatively weaker teams, they cannot dominate the match. If they can't dominate against weak teams, how can Manchester United win against big teams like Barcelona or Arsenal?
However, whether the Manchester United team is worthy of winning the title will be proved in their upcoming matches. Manchester United will undoubtedly become favorites to win the Europa League if they beat Barcelona.
I would say if you won 5 out of 6, no matter how you played, that should be considered as you played good and that's enough. I know it is not going to be that much convincing to just say that, but at the same time it doesn't need to be convincing, it just needs to be as good as possible for them to be there.
In the end, United will face Barcelona and they are a great team so they could of course end up losing to Barcelona, that's understandable, but that wouldn't mean that they were bad so far, they were amazing in europa and played very well. Sure some of the teams were weaker and it was harder than it suppose to, but they got the win in the end anyway.

Personally I don't like Manchester United's performance. They won though. But their performance was not satisfactory. I was not happy with their performance as they could not dominate even against a weaker team.

As they will play against Barcelona in the next match, it will be very difficult for them to win this match. If United could dominate every game in the group stage, I'd say they'd be able to beat Barcelona too. Besides, Manchester United's performance in the Premier League is not good. United is quite weak compared to Barcelona. And so I don't think United will be able to win against Barcelona.
For me, both teams are very deficient, they are not at the level they should be, especially Manchester United, Barcelona are known to be going through a very difficult process, where most of the blame in regards to me would be placed on Xavi, but nevertheless, I can point out that they are currently first in the League, which for me is something temporary, because teams like Real Madrid can surpass them, in the Europa League they have to do very well, it is the only option Who do they have to stand out, I see it as very difficult, at this point I would be thinking that both Barcelona and Manchester are at the same level.
6638  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Qatar world cup Final Predictions on: December 07, 2022, 08:25:08 PM
Every one had the chance for now, because Germany had only strong before. But the team like England, Spain, Japan had the good chance of winning now. Japan game against Germany was the impressive one. Spain and Argentina had the strongest game as compared to many of the small countries. England and Brazil will have the strongest game and will take place in the final for sure.


Well, I think I will not be able to make a very precise prediction, because now the World Cup favorites have lost their first games, with the exception of Spain, Brazil. France, one team in particular surprises me, it is Ecuador, Professor Alfaro, the Colombian technician who directs them, it seems to me that he has done a great job with that group of workers, he is a pretty good technical director, now they have a good position and they have left behind teams that are quite good. I want to highlight the game against the Netherlands, wow really, the Dutch technical director had to see his face of disbelief, Davids, everyone was very surprised to see that Ecuador was making history.

As expected, the finals should feature Brazil and France.
It's still too far to think like that. We have not yet reached the result from quarter final. Anything can happen anytime. I think that england has more chance to defeat france. People are over hyping france caused by mbappe.


I predict that France will defeat England and that Portugal and France will meet in the semifinals.
I will never try to underestimated england in any case. The fact that if england is much more dominated in so many head to head against france. I think that england may able to win easily against france. Remember if england has kane. This will be a very important match for kane.

On many occasions, and I don't remember which bitcointalk threads it was, but there were many who did not trust England's performance at all, of course because of what they had shown in the Nations League, which for me is not a significant thing because in It is obvious that they do not play 100%, in fact all the European teams did not look very good, because they played with their bench, the coaches were looking at who they could summon for the World Cup, apart from the fatigue of their leagues, the players come of a process, of a very different concentration, all these things influence, now England has many possibilities to go as far as they want.
6639  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: French Soccer League Predictions and Discussion Thread (Ligue 1) on: December 07, 2022, 05:08:56 PM
PSG are of course concentrated on the Champions League championship before anything else. As they have a trio consisting of Messi, Mbappe and Neymar it is like their biggest opportunity to make it. But they need to play with a really strong system from now on. Bayern Munich are one of the title contenders at the same time. Although they haven't made a striker transfer they are still very powerful.

I expect a very close matchup but PSG can still do this. Messi has really bad memories with Barcelona against Bayern Munich. Maybe it is time to have revenge on those times.  Smiley

I think that this is a game that we are all waiting for and that we all want to see how it unfolds, however currently in the World Cup there has been a lot of criticism of the players who belong to Argentina like Messi because he lost his first game against Saudi Arabia, and also Germany lost against Japan, so it's surprises that both players like Muller and Messi took away, they both represent Bayern and PSG, so it's like you say, PSG will focus on winning the UCL, and Ligue1 is more than ready for them with their first place, it is almost impossible for them to lose first place, I don't see them losing the lead.

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Neymar will recover soon, at least that is the hope that Brazilian fans will receive at this world cup.
It's a shame that Neymar had to undergo treatment after he picked up an injury quite quickly in Brazil's first match in the group stages. It was certainly not something to be expected, but this had certainly caused him great suffering.

Brazil will face South Korea in the round of 16, it will be a difficult game but I think Brazil will be able to handle it without Neymar. I hope that Neymar has the opportunity to play again during this world cup, which means I hope his injury will heal soon.
do you know the reason why brazil fans mock neymar, that's because he is consistently injured in the world cup, he is a clown for brazil fans. he may be in good form at PSG but the injury he has experienced makes him worried that he will not be able to defend Brazil in the world cup until it is finished. Next year's transfer market will surely be full of speculation on potential replacements for Neymar at PSG.

Neymar still one of the most important players in Brazil and psg and majority of fans really consider him as the best player of the world, regardless his injurie he still have the chance to do many things in the world cup and he already started scoring, Neymar is comfortable with psg and i don't think he will leave anytime soon

I think the same, Neymar is in a very high fucking place where all he wants for now is to win the World Cup, I don't think he has anything else in mind, however at PSG he can achieve many things, he won't give him everything on a silver platter either to Mbappé, except after the problems they have had, I know that Mbappé has had many successes in this World Cup and in PSG, but his attitude is one that is not very well regarded, it is not essential, on the other hand, the humility that Neymar shows He's incredible, and in fact he takes it much more with Messi because they both don't want to pass over each other, Neymar is a player who has matured a lot, compared to the game they beat South Korea, Neymar was much more focused and very mature.

One of the things I liked the most about that game was how Ney used the referee to dribble:


Brazil star Neymar appears to copy an outrageous Lionel Messi piece of skill by using the REFEREE to beat defenders in their World Cup thrashing of South Korea - in an echo of his PSG team-mate's brilliant improvisation while at Barcelona




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Neymar channeled Paris Saint-Germain team-mate Lionel Messi as he pulled off a flamboyant skill move in Brazil's thrashing of South Korea.

Tite's men cruised past the Asian side 4-1 in their last-16 tie on Monday night, with the star forward on the scoresheet as he returned to the team after suffering an ankle ligament injury in the group stage.

Source: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-11506927/World-Cup-Brazils-Neymar-imitates-outrageous-Lionel-Messi-skill-using-referee-beat-defenders.html
6640  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: December 07, 2022, 03:15:26 PM
Actually, for now, another pretty good thing for Napoli is that Kvaratskhelia and Osimhen, who are in good condition, are not there because obviously this can make at least the risk of fatigue and injury minimized for them and of course this is an advantage too, although there are indeed some opportunities for them leave but this is still just a rumour.
But on the other hand, of course, there will be some additional flying hours if players take part in the world cup.
In general, not so many Napoli players are in the world cup, so the potential for Napoli to continue to win in the second half of the season is clearly very wide open because Napoli can still formulate their best strategy to win games in the second half of the season. And also Napoli can improve their performances in the Champions League because the Napoli coach knows how the condition of their players is at the moment and also sees the opposing team's consistency starting to decline.

Well I wanted to say that but in a softer way, what happens is that not having Italy in the World Cup, that is something that is still missing, at least for me since it is one of my favorite teams, but honestly what you say is very true, if there is no presence of the Italians in the World Cup, they will be more rested, they will be in better shape, because rest makes them better, the muscles are in better shape, maybe that is the problem that It's happening in Argentina, Germany, the best players come very exhausted from the leagues to which they belong and face some players who come from other leagues that are not so active.

Inter's current points are 30 while Napoli's points are 41 so the difference in points between the two reaches 11 points. with this huge difference, I see it will be difficult for Napoli to catch up. Napoli will not waste a golden opportunity to win the Scudetto this season, they have been fasting for a title for several years, this season must be their best achievement.
With such a large distance in points, it seems impossible for Inter to take first place because in every match Napoli also has the potential to win so that the points currently owned by Napoli can increase when they manage to get a win too. Napoli's strength is not easy to beat.
That's what we think all the time, but we can't leave everything like that. we have to be aware of everything, Napoli really wants to sell some players, that is what is most speculated about, some do not want to because they think that the team in general is going to break up and yes, I also think the same, but we don't know how is the team in terms of finances, some things are what we see in the team in general, how it performs on the pitch and what the board of directors thinks is another very different thing, we cannot go against those things, however it could say that they cannot sell the best players because otherwise the work that was done will be in vain.
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