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Question: Which of the team do you think will win the Final
Argentina - 55 (69.6%)
France - 24 (30.4%)
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December 12, 2022, 06:22:42 PM
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I agree with you. Argentina are considerably stronger than Croatia in attacking and defense department. But Croatia played a game that looked like they were targeting from the start of the match that they would take the match to extra time. They also play the mind game well during the match. I don't think Argentina will want this match to go to extra time anyway, because they will never want to take the pressure of penalty shoot out after going into extra time.
In the last game, Croatia was really strong when they beat Brazil. Their midfielder was indeed able to make Brazil fail to build attacks properly because Croatia tends to dominate the midfield compared to Brazil. Midfield dominance in that game will be crucial, and Croatia may do the same against Argentina.

Argentina has many advantages over Croatia, but certainly has some weaknesses. Argentina has a tendency to get emotional quickly so it will be very bad when the game with high tension. Their quarter-final match was really bad, the game was so rough even though in the end they won the match. It is true that Argentina is expected to reach the final this time, however I will be looking forward to the two teams actually fighting for a ticket.

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December 12, 2022, 06:40:43 PM
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today i can present you again one of the funny cartoons... Grin
on this you can now see the 2 semifinals and the strengths of the respective opponents - how the moroccan players (Bono, hHakimi, Amrabat) are portrayed here i find very successful and also funny Smiley
Lol you can’t imagine how much i like this art i think it’s the same as caricatures. The two pictures you shared are saying too much about the coming matches we will witness tomorrow and after tomorrow. The first one between Argentina against Croatia showing the weakness of Messi’s comrades against the strength of Modriç teammates in defense which probably lead to Croatia qualifying to the finals
In the second one where we see France facing Morocco which is a big surprise that Hakimi’s team could arrive to this point and won against strong teams such as Spain and Portugal, 11vs11 artist predicted that Morocco will win the game since they will focus only in attacking without much success against the wall of Bounou and defense while Morocco will take the chance of counterattacks as usual and we all know when Morocco scores first it’s so hard to draw the score against them. So yeah i like this prediction 

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December 12, 2022, 06:51:54 PM
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I agree with you. Argentina are considerably stronger than Croatia in attacking and defense department. But Croatia played a game that looked like they were targeting from the start of the match that they would take the match to extra time. They also play the mind game well during the match. I don't think Argentina will want this match to go to extra time anyway, because they will never want to take the pressure of penalty shoot out after going into extra time.
In the last game, Croatia was really strong when they beat Brazil. Their midfielder was indeed able to make Brazil fail to build attacks properly because Croatia tends to dominate the midfield compared to Brazil. Midfield dominance in that game will be crucial, and Croatia may do the same against Argentina.

Argentina has many advantages over Croatia, but certainly has some weaknesses. Argentina has a tendency to get emotional quickly so it will be very bad when the game with high tension. Their quarter-final match was really bad, the game was so rough even though in the end they won the match. It is true that Argentina is expected to reach the final this time, however I will be looking forward to the two teams actually fighting for a ticket.
I believe that both teams got to the semi-finals for a reason and it is irrelevant to say that either team is stronger. Of course Argentina have more famous players, but the Croatian players also play for top European clubs. I would call the chances of winning this game the same. My guess is that it will end the same way as with Brazil on a penalty shootout.
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December 12, 2022, 07:01:44 PM
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I agree with you. Argentina are considerably stronger than Croatia in attacking and defense department.
The strength of Croatia is in their midfield and that their players but the old and young always play very passionately and give their best whenever they represent their country. The have a good fighting spirit and scoring them first takes nothing away from them and they plan to always control the midfield and control the game.

But Croatia played a game that looked like they were targeting from the start of the match that they would take the match to extra time.
Both teams have played penalties in this competition, should they will both be ready if that becomes the last option to decide the winner.

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December 12, 2022, 07:14:33 PM
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I agree with you. Argentina are considerably stronger than Croatia in attacking and defense department. But Croatia played a game that looked like they were targeting from the start of the match that they would take the match to extra time. They also play the mind game well during the match. I don't think Argentina will want this match to go to extra time anyway, because they will never want to take the pressure of penalty shoot out after going into extra time.
In the last game, Croatia was really strong when they beat Brazil. Their midfielder was indeed able to make Brazil fail to build attacks properly because Croatia tends to dominate the midfield compared to Brazil. Midfield dominance in that game will be crucial, and Croatia may do the same against Argentina.

Argentina has many advantages over Croatia, but certainly has some weaknesses. Argentina has a tendency to get emotional quickly so it will be very bad when the game with high tension. Their quarter-final match was really bad, the game was so rough even though in the end they won the match. It is true that Argentina is expected to reach the final this time, however I will be looking forward to the two teams actually fighting for a ticket.
I believe that both teams got to the semi-finals for a reason and it is irrelevant to say that either team is stronger. Of course Argentina have more famous players, but the Croatian players also play for top European clubs. I would call the chances of winning this game the same. My guess is that it will end the same way as with Brazil on a penalty shootout.

Croatia won the knockout stages and the quarter-finals on penalty shoot out. It wouldn't be surprising if they still have that plan, but it's not the same plan that will always work. In the last match, Neymar scored a brilliant goal breaking Croatia's defense. But Brazil's luck may not have been with them that day, so they also conceded a goal and the result of the match is already known. Let's see if Argentina can defeat Croatia's tactics and win the match.

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December 12, 2022, 07:18:18 PM
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I agree with you. Argentina are considerably stronger than Croatia in attacking and defense department. But Croatia played a game that looked like they were targeting from the start of the match that they would take the match to extra time. They also play the mind game well during the match. I don't think Argentina will want this match to go to extra time anyway, because they will never want to take the pressure of penalty shoot out after going into extra time.
In the last game, Croatia was really strong when they beat Brazil. Their midfielder was indeed able to make Brazil fail to build attacks properly because Croatia tends to dominate the midfield compared to Brazil. Midfield dominance in that game will be crucial, and Croatia may do the same against Argentina.

Argentina has many advantages over Croatia, but certainly has some weaknesses. Argentina has a tendency to get emotional quickly so it will be very bad when the game with high tension. Their quarter-final match was really bad, the game was so rough even though in the end they won the match. It is true that Argentina is expected to reach the final this time, however I will be looking forward to the two teams actually fighting for a ticket.
I believe that both teams got to the semi-finals for a reason and it is irrelevant to say that either team is stronger. Of course Argentina have more famous players, but the Croatian players also play for top European clubs. I would call the chances of winning this game the same. My guess is that it will end the same way as with Brazil on a penalty shootout.
I think the Argentina team is experienced and have remarkable player. However, those who qualify for the World Cup in the semi -finals they are definitely good team. Some prominent teams in the world cup who were eliminated from the World Cup. If Messi don't play in the Argentina squad, then I will pronounce that Argentina will comparatively a weaker team than Croatia. After all the match will play tomorrow and expect Croatia can perform well.

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December 12, 2022, 07:28:05 PM
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The end of the World Cup is in sight. Only 3 of the 64 matches are left. It were fun and special weeks, often 3 times a day in the winter. In the match between Morocco and France, Mbappe and Hakimi face each other, normally PSG teammates. There seems to be a very good midfielder in Morocco, he is also compared to Modric. Whether he is really that good, we will see against France. That's a good measure of strength. Nice detail is that he also plays in the French league and it is less fun that he is at the bottom with his team Angers.

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Tomorrow game against Croatia will determine if Argentina will win the world cup. If Argentina luckily wins the match tomorrow,  they will try their possible best to win the finals.  If Argentina wins the finals it will be so exciting for Messi   because this has always been all he wanted as a legend.
Argentina's ambitions are very big now especially by looking at the current conditions that are only a few steps away from becoming champions in the world cup of course they will try harder now, but the problem is not only Argentina who want that because regardless of anything Croatia also wants to do that the same thing and now the conditions for them are quite good even though they are often underestimated but they prove that they are capable.
Croatia team will not be too bad but because we have seen Croatia play very well in the previous matches. But it is not clear how Argentina will play. But Argentina is one of the most popular team. Argentina fans are in almost all countries. The game of these two teams.  All are waiting to be enjoyed.
Although Croatia has difficulties in producing, they are very strong in the midfield, they have very special players there and they have been playing the same game with the same coach for a long time. They played 2 pieces of 120 minutes. there is an obvious lack of talent at the front, it's hard to talk about high level athletics but depending on the situation they can be very physical there as the Netherlands does today. In defense, they have good players, but we also saw in the Brazil game that they can give a position. If the Brazilian players had shot a little better, it was quite possible to finish this job in 90 minutes.
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December 12, 2022, 07:36:16 PM
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Morocco defenders will face a really huge threat. Mbappe being in the first place, players like Giroud and Griezmann are also going to be a big threat to them. These three players have been in a great shape lately. Actually Mbappe couldn't play like he wanted against England but it was still not a problem for France. Griezmann - Giroud duo put on a good show anyway.

Morocco can only try to have defend them in an area rather than trying man-to-man. They have been successful about this against some big teams so far. But I think this won't work against France for a long time.

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December 12, 2022, 07:42:02 PM
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Even though Argentina and France looked very convincing to reach their dream final but I will never underestimate Croatia and Morocco. Croatia unexpectedly reached the semi-finals through two crucial matches and both were due to penalty shoot against Japan and Brazil. Meanwhile, Morocco managed to beat Spain via penalty shoot and beating Portugal. These two teams are not the favorites, but both of them can reach the final if they can beat their opponents in the semi-finals.

There are 3 possibilities about the team that will reach the final in my opinion:
1. Croatia vs France
2. Argentina vs Morocco
3. Argentina vs France
But what about Croatia - Morocco? If you say that these teams are strong and they cannot be underestimated, then this cannot be excluded. Yes, I know this sounds very unlikely, but how many such incredible results have already happened, I don’t even remember everything at once. For me, the most interesting final would be Argentina - France, and although I like France more, I would like Messi to become a champion.
That is how we see things, you can't just say that one team has a chance therefore they will be at the finals just because they have a chance. You say the team with the biggest chance, would you agree that France has 51% or more chance to beat Morocco? Not saying it is 100% guaranteed, just asking if it is 51% or more chance?

I believe it is more, and majority of the world believes it's more. Same could be said about Argentina and Croatia as well, people see Argentina having 51% or more chance, and that is important. With this logic in mind, that means Argentina vs France has the biggest favour, doesn't mean it's a must, just means people favour that as a bigger chance.

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I agree with you. Argentina are considerably stronger than Croatia in attacking and defense department. But Croatia played a game that looked like they were targeting from the start of the match that they would take the match to extra time. They also play the mind game well during the match. I don't think Argentina will want this match to go to extra time anyway, because they will never want to take the pressure of penalty shoot out after going into extra time.
In the last game, Croatia was really strong when they beat Brazil. Their midfielder was indeed able to make Brazil fail to build attacks properly because Croatia tends to dominate the midfield compared to Brazil. Midfield dominance in that game will be crucial, and Croatia may do the same against Argentina.

Argentina has many advantages over Croatia, but certainly has some weaknesses. Argentina has a tendency to get emotional quickly so it will be very bad when the game with high tension. Their quarter-final match was really bad, the game was so rough even though in the end they won the match. It is true that Argentina is expected to reach the final this time, however I will be looking forward to the two teams actually fighting for a ticket.
I believe that both teams got to the semi-finals for a reason and it is irrelevant to say that either team is stronger. Of course Argentina have more famous players, but the Croatian players also play for top European clubs. I would call the chances of winning this game the same. My guess is that it will end the same way as with Brazil on a penalty shootout.
I think the Argentina team is experienced and have remarkable player. However, those who qualify for the World Cup in the semi -finals they are definitely good team. Some prominent teams in the world cup who were eliminated from the World Cup. If Messi don't play in the Argentina squad, then I will pronounce that Argentina will comparatively a weaker team than Croatia. After all the match will play tomorrow and expect Croatia can perform well.
Well said as regards the impact of Messi on the Argentina squad. If they do get to the finals, they might win. Am hoping a stronger opponent like Morocco which has been a revelation for the African side, to face the Argentine side in the finals. France has been there in the finals more. Let Africa be in the finals. They have done well so far for a less dominant Continent.

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December 12, 2022, 07:49:16 PM
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Well said as regards the impact of Messi on the Argentina squad. If they do get to the finals, they might win. Am hoping a stronger opponent like Morocco which has been a revelation for the African side, to face the Argentine side in the finals. France has been there in the finals more. Let Africa be in the finals. They have done well so far for a less dominant Continent.

I guess the majority of people are with Morrocco just because they are first African to reach semis of world cup. It will be so good to see Morrocco winning this worldcup. The two legendary footballers are leaving football after this worldcup, Ronaldo career is over for Portugal. Let's see whether Messi can win the cup for Argentina before his retirement.
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December 12, 2022, 07:54:06 PM
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No Argentina is a stronger opponent and Messi will definitely win this game against croatia.  Croatia is a strong team but not as much as Argentina.  They are very experienced and their game is very mature but obviously we have to prepare our mind for all sorts of surprises and unpredictable results.

It's true that Argentina has an advantage here due to its players but it's the world cup we're talking about.
The unexpected could happen and even the team we all hoped would win might end up disappointing us.
But for the Croatia vs Argentina game Argentina will come out victorious but it won't be an easy one as both teams are experience and also have good players, I'm sure that Croatia midfielders are gonna give their opponent a hard time but they do lack fire power which is going to be a serious problem to them.

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No Argentina is a stronger opponent and Messi will definitely win this game against croatia.  Croatia is a strong team but not as much as Argentina.  They are very experienced and their game is very mature but obviously we have to prepare our mind for all sorts of surprises and unpredictable results.

It's true that Argentina has an advantage here due to its players but it's the world cup we're talking about.
The unexpected could happen and even the team we all hoped would win might end up disappointing us.
But for the Croatia vs Argentina game Argentina will come out victorious but it won't be an easy one as both teams are experience and also have good players, I'm sure that Croatia midfielders are gonna give their opponent a hard time but they do lack fire power which is going to be a serious problem to them.

This cup has so far given too many surprises, and that's why I refrained from betting in any match. Who thought that we will see Tunisia beating France and semi-final between France and Morrocco. On Wednesday I will cheer for Morrocco and would like to see how they will defend against defending champion France.
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The end of the World Cup is in sight. Only 3 of the 64 matches are left. It were fun and special weeks, often 3 times a day in the winter. In the match between Morocco and France, Mbappe and Hakimi face each other, normally PSG teammates. There seems to be a very good midfielder in Morocco, he is also compared to Modric. Whether he is really that good, we will see against France. That's a good measure of strength. Nice detail is that he also plays in the French league and it is less fun that he is at the bottom with his team Angers.
If Morroccoo can win against Portugal then they can definitely beat France too.
For them it's the only opportunity they can have in life time - I see Morrocco winning the world cup too.

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December 12, 2022, 07:58:31 PM
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Well said as regards the impact of Messi on the Argentina squad. If they do get to the finals, they might win. Am hoping a stronger opponent like Morocco which has been a revelation for the African side, to face the Argentine side in the finals. France has been there in the finals more. Let Africa be in the finals. They have done well so far for a less dominant Continent.

I guess the majority of people are with Morrocco just because they are first African to reach semis of world cup. It will be so good to see Morrocco winning this worldcup. The two legendary footballers are leaving football after this worldcup, Ronaldo career is over for Portugal. Let's see whether Messi can win the cup for Argentina before his retirement.

Cristiano already said that winning the world cup would be a dream for him, but Portugal had no luck. I don't like Cristiano too much, but it would be a great title for his collection. About Messi, the same, but in this case let's see what happens. Regarding Morocco, I think that many people would like them to win as they are the underdog against historical champions, and it would be nice for an African team to win in Qatar.

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December 12, 2022, 07:59:29 PM
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Morocco defenders will face a really huge threat. Mbappe being in the first place, players like Giroud and Griezmann are also going to be a big threat to them. These three players have been in a great shape lately. Actually Mbappe couldn't play like he wanted against England but it was still not a problem for France. Griezmann - Giroud duo put on a good show anyway.

Morocco can only try to have defend them in an area rather than trying man-to-man. They have been successful about this against some big teams so far. But I think this won't work against France for a long time.
I frequently remark that Morocco is a very lucky team; otherwise, they wouldn't have enough quality players to compete at this level in this tournament, but they are very fortunate and possess the best defenders. Mbappe, Griezmann, and Giroud are excellent players who consistently take advantage of their opportunities, whereas Morocco's attackers have a poor finishing rate. As a result, I anticipate France to win the game and put an end to Morocco.

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Well said as regards the impact of Messi on the Argentina squad. If they do get to the finals, they might win. Am hoping a stronger opponent like Morocco which has been a revelation for the African side, to face the Argentine side in the finals. France has been there in the finals more. Let Africa be in the finals. They have done well so far for a less dominant Continent.

I guess the majority of people are with Morrocco just because they are first African to reach semis of world cup. It will be so good to see Morrocco winning this worldcup. The two legendary footballers are leaving football after this worldcup, Ronaldo career is over for Portugal. Let's see whether Messi can win the cup for Argentina before his retirement.

Cristiano already said that winning the world cup would be a dream for him, but Portugal had no luck. I don't like Cristiano too much, but it would be a great title for his collection. About Messi, the same, but in this case let's see what happens. Regarding Morocco, I think that many people would like them to win as they are the underdog against historical champions, and it would be nice for an African team to win in Qatar.
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The whole world knows his name - whether they are cricket fan or not. But it was heartbreaking seeing Ronaldo in tear. He deserved a better ending of his career.

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December 12, 2022, 08:13:01 PM
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I agree with you. Argentina are considerably stronger than Croatia in attacking and defense department.
The strength of Croatia is in their midfield and that their players but the old and young always play very passionately and give their best whenever they represent their country. The have a good fighting spirit and scoring them first takes nothing away from them and they plan to always control the midfield and control the game.

But Croatia played a game that looked like they were targeting from the start of the match that they would take the match to extra time.
Both teams have played penalties in this competition, should they will both be ready if that becomes the last option to decide the winner.

Argentina are better than Croatia attacking wise but I don't see them better than there counterpart in the other departments. Defensively Argentina are better just on paper but the world Cup performance of Sosa, loveren, Gvardiola and juranovic have been better than Argentines. The Argentina defence are shaky in this competition even as the manager opted for a five man defence against Netherlands it still conceded 2 quick goals


Argentina have an issue of killing the game off early and it will affect them against the Croatians

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December 12, 2022, 08:20:22 PM
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Morocco defenders will face a really huge threat. Mbappe being in the first place, players like Giroud and Griezmann are also going to be a big threat to them. These three players have been in a great shape lately. Actually Mbappe couldn't play like he wanted against England but it was still not a problem for France. Griezmann - Giroud duo put on a good show anyway.

Morocco can only try to have defend them in an area rather than trying man-to-man. They have been successful about this against some big teams so far. But I think this won't work against France for a long time.
I frequently remark that Morocco is a very lucky team; otherwise, they wouldn't have enough quality players to compete at this level in this tournament, but they are very fortunate and possess the best defenders. Mbappe, Griezmann, and Giroud are excellent players who consistently take advantage of their opportunities, whereas Morocco's attackers have a poor finishing rate. As a result, I anticipate France to win the game and put an end to Morocco.

Well, I'm not saying much, because there is so much speculation that there are teams that can overtake others, that just looking at the example of Spain, Germany, Portugal, which are very strong countries and were taken out by teams that very few people thought, so I don't know if Mbappé and his entire combo are capable of taking out the Moroccans, because3 honestly they play football very well and what I like is that they don't give up, they are persistent, if they score a goal they don't rest until they draw, it's In other words, they don't get discouraged and that's the good thing about those teams, because they don't care about anything but they only visualize the victory.

Morocco’s Nayef Aguerd to France before World Cup: “We’ll see you in the semi-finals or the final, that’s for sure.”



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According to L’Équipe Morocco defender Nayef Aguerd told his French teammates at West Ham, notably Alphonse Areola, that he would be meeting them in the semi-finals of World Cup. What would have been an outlandish statement at the beginning of the tournament has now become reality for Morocco, the first African side to have reached the semi-finals of the World Cup.

Before departing for Doha, Aguerd told France back-up goalkeeper and West Ham teammate: “We’ll get through the groups and we’ll see you in the semi-finals or the final, that’s for sure”.

Source: https://www.getfootballnewsfrance.com/2022/moroccos-nayef-aguerd-to-france-before-world-cup-well-see-you-in-the-semi-finals-or-the-final-thats-for-sure/

These players and this team from Morocco is the best example that knowing how to choose players is the strategy that can make a team look good. I only look at the strategies of some countries like Spain that practically only led Barcelona to play leaving on the outside to a Sergio Ramos and a Lucas who easily do not score goals and would have been valuartes, perhaps Spain would have made another story, just like Portugal leaving a CR7 on the bench, when you know that a star like that should never be take him out of the stadium, use him in every way, but there are technicians that I don't know how to call them, but they still have a lot to know about football, something that the Croats and Argentines don't have, who use their Legends without taking them out like Modric and Messi.

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