I have been trying to promote bitcoin a bit on facebook and other pages for the 15th october global protest...
Isn't what the protesters want, exactly down to almost the tiniest detail, what bitcoin will offer?
Or do they just want to protest?
Does anyone have tips on how to best communicate bitcoin when talking to occupy protesters?
Neither Apple nor Starbucks accept Bitcoin as of yet. (Edit: Sorry if that's already been done. I didn't realize this was a 13 page necro-thread) (Edit2: My salute to Desolator) |
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What's so difficult to understand about a paper wallet?
It probably starts with the fact that it's not a wallet. I can understand why that word was chosen but it sets people up with totally the wrong basis to mentally work from. Given that many people don't even understand where the web or the internet are and some of them even make it to senator, well... Though I'm sure that that's a discussion that's already been done to death on these boards already so I don't really want to get into a big discussion. But any documentation for the regular user will probably have to handily subvert the wallet metaphor on page 1, paragraph 1. |
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The direct approach was where you went wrong. You need to use it casually in conversation but loud enough to be heard. Such as "Yeah, I traded a couple of million Satoshi this morning but I expect to get double that back by the end of the week". Then snort a line of coke off the bar.
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After a good night's sleep on a fresh bed of straw, I'm here to report that BWLI Inc. will be listing its IPO on the Global Barn Wood Exchange (GLBWE). Dr. Nefnef, a Chinese veterarian, who operates the exchange, will be handling the IPO, as well as all the bitcoins deposited to purchase the 1M shares of BWLI Inc. Meanwhile, back on the production line, I present to you our new creation--a pie safe.  Regards BWLI_Al Your pi safe is missing 0.14159 of a shelf. |
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I do believe that paper wallets are a viable solution that is totally underrepresented in the materials one's likely to find in a cursory web search for bitcoin. The generator at BitAddress.org should be available on Bitcoin.org. The community of people able to use Bitcoin would be much bigger if they could easily print their own wallet, buy bitcoins somewhere to fund it, and type their private key directly into the merchant of their choice, no differently than if they were buying and redeeming an iTunes gift card. That "type it into a merchant" step would come much more easily if bitcoind offered support for "sweeping" private keys, which is why I proposed it over a year ago. A merchant would simply put a web front-end on the function, sweep funds to an address he controls, and then treat swept payments the same as an incoming payment from elsewhere on the internet. I run into people all the time who just wanted to own some coins, downloaded the client, and gave up because they bit off more than they could chew and because to them, a day long block chain download sounded nothing like "the future of money". If they could have printed themselves a wallet in 30 seconds, then handing someone 100 bucks for some play coins would have been far more pleasant. Interesting. I'd say start an initiative to get something like this going. It does nothing that would interfere with what's happening on the mainline stuff. |
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Runoff voting has its own issues and is a pain to actually apply (I've been through it. Though it is only a short term pain and that shouldn't really affect adoption). Personally, I'm a big fan of approval voting. Though I really don't expect anything to change anytime soon.
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Theft is about more than just taking by force. If you steal a laptop and the police come and confiscate it back off you, then they are taking it by force, but it is not theft, because you had no legal claim on the laptop and someone else did. If the bailiffs come to your house and take your tv, they are using force, but again, by taking out the loan, you signed away your legal claim on your property, so it is not the same as theft.
The government makes the laws and the laws say you have to pay tax. So according to the law, the government has a legal claim on your money, so it is not theft to take it by force.
Tax is only theft if you can argue that there is some law that supersedes the government's law that they can raise taxes.
You need to learn to differentiate between the legal, the moral and the ethical realms. Taxes are not legally theft but if we assume that correctness is defined by law, then where is the reasoning behind changing laws? |
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You need a unique reference to run a business, the customer needs that reference as well. The best they could do is obfuscate it (with double SHA2?) or something, but why would makers of web-store software even care about that in a general case? Outside this fishbowl community attempting to decode order numbers is generally a futile exercise, so why expend the effort on the feature?
Yes, you do. But the rowid of the database is not the way to do it. A better way is to choose an arbitrarily large number space, choose a number from it randomly and check for uniqueness. There are other methods too. At the least, they should not be easily guessable. Unfortunately in SOME form of the business system there will need to be an orderly ascending unique identifier for each transcation. Typically this is done at the invoice # level where each new invoice is +1 above the previous, regardless or how/what/why. This is needed for auditing purposes. That said.. for a sales order #, there is likely a lot more freedom with that, but i would imagine it would still need SOME kind of rhyme or reason vs just being totally random. Given that the first site I checked, Newegg appears to have such a system for their order numbers, I'll concede this (not sure what their invoice numbers are doing though). Thinking back, when I worked on an e-commerce site back in the late 90s, we used an increasing-by-1 system but just started with an arbitrarily large number. |
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Then they can solve that alone after the earth is wiped sterile by a freak solar flare.
Sorry, we need your space colony money to bail out big banks and car manufacturers. Have a RC buggy to play with instead. |
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Here is one of the validation files for 0.7.0. Any changes to any of those files will change their hashes, and changes to any of the hashes will break the signature. If you've verified the key, you can check them for each release. By the way, the key they are signed with (currently) can be found here. (But please don't take my word for it, verify the key yourself before you sign it or use it.) But how can I trust you? Or that the owners of this site haven't modified your post?  Perhaps key-signing parties need to become part of the Bitcoin deal. Probably should have these files torrented too for the decentralization. Would that decrease or increase security? Possibly neither I suspect. Heh, you don't trust me, or my posts. In fact, I explicitly tell you not to. If, for some strange reason, you did want to trust me, I'd tell you that if: 1) the SHASUMS.asc file you are looking at has the SHA256 hash d2f06aca782ae7bc1f0df13e2646ea3343f09048019aa3136832c11c04a08fc7 and 2) the 1FC730C1 key you've downloaded verifies the signature in that file then according to me (or anyone that has access to the forum database or can intercept either my post or your loading of my post), you have the right key and file. Torrent would ensure that the file you downloaded was the file described in the torrent, but it couldn't tell you that the torrent was legit. One thing that you can do is check the hashes and signatures on several of the releases you've used in the past, and decide that you've already trusted that key, whoever it belongs to, without knowing it, and then sign it with your own key. That way, you'd at least know that future releases were signed by the same key as before. I was more thinking of the torrent as a way of decentralizing availability of the app. Though the fact that it is hashed is definitely a bonus. |
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The problem of reconciling different ideas about land ownership isn't unique to a land tax system. What problems would nomadic peoples encounter under a land tax system that they wouldn't encounter in the current system? What solutions does the current system offer that a land tax system could not?
Oh, I was just going off on a tangent. |
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What is needed is a mechanism for miners to announce their demands in their mined blocks, which has to work across pools. It's fairly straight forward to implement but it won't be done because of above issues.
Lets wait for the collapse of the GLBSE mining bond bubble (watch the difficulty!) then we will see what happens.
Transaction volume is low right now, particularly for zero-fee transactions and people are happy to donate time (especially since it's in the default client) to help get bitcoin established. If volumes start having a significant effect expect to see transaction fees rise if you want to see the transaction proceed in a timely manner. Did you pay attention to the bold part? FYI we are in the midst of it.. I guess I didn't/don't understand the link (which is not to say that it isn't a real thing) |
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What is needed is a mechanism for miners to announce their demands in their mined blocks, which has to work across pools. It's fairly straight forward to implement but it won't be done because of above issues.
Lets wait for the collapse of the GLBSE mining bond bubble (watch the difficulty!) then we will see what happens.
Transaction volume is low right now, particularly for zero-fee transactions and people are happy to donate time (especially since it's in the default client) to help get bitcoin established. If volumes start having a significant effect expect to see transaction fees rise if you want to see the transaction proceed in a timely manner. |
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Learn programming Atlas.  Atlas Debugged? |
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Golds value does not stem from how useful it is. It comes from the confidence people have in it. This is why in a crisis the value of Gold shoots up!
Just because gold doesn't have much intrinsic value doesn't mean it doesn't have value as a fairly stable storage of wealth. Of course, if there's a bubble (and I believe there is) and it bursts pretty badly, all bets are off. |
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To an extent. We can totally mess up the planet's biosphere and turn it into a barren rock pretty easily.
Even if you believe in CAGW with all your heart, that's a pretty outre statement. |
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I'll have to see if my library has that book. The problem comes in enforcing crimes. Without any sort of registry, I say john stole my car. John says it has always been his car. How can anyone know what side to be on, or even who to go to for arbitration?
This is why anything anyone could possibly own is registered in a government controlled database. Right, that was my point. This example was in a situation without government and that database. But not everything is. Cars are not registered for the purpose of determining ownership in the case of theft (though it provides a handy way for the government to multiple-tax people on the sale of used goods), it is so that they can track people down who might otherwise be hard to identify in the commission of a crime. But I'm not sure where you're going with this anyway. |
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In an earlier interview, Assange complained of boredom and a lack of fresh air in the embassy’s small backroom. He has spent over 100 days in the red brick house, which has no sleeping accommodations and only a small kitchenette.[/i]
I'd lay odds that the staff there are getting pretty fed-up with him also. |
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I'll have to see if my library has that book. The problem comes in enforcing crimes. Without any sort of registry, I say john stole my car. John says it has always been his car. How can anyone know what side to be on, or even who to go to for arbitration?
This is why anything anyone could possibly own is registered in a government controlled database. |
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Is that a technical thing? Cause my personal name would be the same on all sides of the transaction(s)
It due to AML I think. Transferwise receive money from your account, convert to to EUR/USD and then forward it from their bank account to Mt.Gox. Because it comes from their bank account Mt.Gox will reject it. I'm not sure why I would want mtgox in the equation at that point. I could do USD->mtgox myself. |
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