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6621  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How can gambling help you with your life? on: December 03, 2016, 12:23:16 PM
It does actually help my life. I bought new phone, jewelry, clothing, have a pocket money, etc. I get all of that without investing a single cent from my pocket. But im suffering losses this past few weeks but the good thing here is i didnt use any fiat from my pocket.


Your lucky at this moment if you really buy that things using your winnings on gamblingd but i dont think your life will be merrier forever since we cannot asure.to win always on gambling, and rather if you calculate your losses on that surely the result is you lose so much money before winning on them, and in my case i never win huge on gambling since i don't place huge amount from it since im afraid to lose huge.
6622  Economy / Gambling / Re: fortunejack site is going to close? on: December 03, 2016, 11:32:51 AM
Same as others though i don't believe fortunejack will close down their business since they still got many numbersnof players that can make them earn some mote revenue and they have an active sig campaign and it is not ended yet, and that is our indicator that their business closed down is not gonna happen at this moment, and although theirs a little problem occuring at them but surely it was just an normal error and will resolve if the fj management will br reach out to take some action.
6623  Economy / Securities / Re: Pig Farm Investment. 5 % Monthly. Has been running for 6 months. on: December 03, 2016, 10:55:41 AM
still no reply from OP Huh
You've been scammed, learn from this, and hopefully you will not be scammed again.


This is lesson must be learned by anyone scam incident has been scattered everywhere and we must don't believe on online investment since for me there's totally no real among them and i don't see any site can nor people can give that profit for just waiting, so lets wake up from reality that theres no easy money in this world all need hardwork and efforts, and those offering to good to be true profits and monthly with no basis and proofs of legitemacy is scam.
When i see this thread on the past i could say that its a legitimate one because of the payout that he has given to its investors with proofs and also have videos. If its a ponzi then its really hard to detect it from the very start since the return on monthly basis is not just that high compare to those ponzi sites out there but as ive read OP is not already responding seems it turns to scam or any other reason why OP cant able to reply. Lets wait before we fully decide regarding on this matter.


Those payouts has been used to attract more investors to invest in his false pig farm business and i really think at very first that all he was stated here is only a lie and wants only to run a scam ponzi one,  and how could you afford to wait for more while its quitely long days for not responding to the allegation here? And thats totally the breaking point that he is scam and nothing else added color, thats why we should be carefull since surely another modus  will be made again by scammers.
Its already a scam since he didnt come back to explain such accusation upon him and also some DT already tagged negative trust so this means we could all conclude that hes a scammer and i feel sorry for those investors who fell on his ponzi scheme tactics. Running a pig farm investments seems new to me and i could say all scammer would really find a way to scam people no matter which way as long they could able to victimized people.


And why such people believes on him while its to shaddy to give some profits to their investors while theres no totally strong proof that he own a farm, and maybe those fake proof he shown are just stolen to anothet pig farm Smiley thats why at very first he's totally a scam and just want to run the ponzi game and look at now he'd fleed already and surely 100% that he will not comeback again.
6624  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: 9 TBC FOR SALE [THE BILLION COIN] on: December 03, 2016, 08:19:47 AM
TBC's price is Increasing just like Onecoin with no downward trend. Even BTC gets dumped many times after price rise. But this coins seems to never go down.

As you can see Below MIllionaire list is in BTC which totals to 4.5 Billion dollars at current bitcoin rate. Even this is only showing 10 entries worth 4.5 billion dollars of the total of 2500+ entries. You can see i think it will even exceed BITCOIN's Marketcap.


This is total bullshit and those people who hold off large amounts of TBC will such come to waste when the value goes very high its still useless and they would remain in just numbers but you cant actually spend them off so its a total scam and where you hear about a coin without fluctuations? Its just a pure MLM scam and there are lots of people do fall for this and those greediness really push them to engage on this nonsense coin.


Yeah i super agree, and how can they exchange their coins while theirs no exchange behind on their coins? And they believed that they will became a millionaire in the future for holding that? WTF! this is totally bullshit coin, and those who hold for more years and buy more will surely cry in the future since as you've said this coin will become useless, surely many people will cry since they loss their money for their wrong belief in this coin.
6625  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Is investing in mining still worth it? on: December 02, 2016, 02:55:58 PM
I was interested in building a btc mining farm, a solar-powered one. It seems to be the future of mining. Unfortunately I can't find enough information about the price of it, but by the models that I see, it looks expensive.
It doesn't only look expensive, but building up a decent home level farm is indeed an expensive investment where you constantly need to invest into your farm due to the difficulty going higher and higher.

If you don't keep adding extra gear from time to time, then you'll fall behind significantly where you'll have a hard time even getting 75% of your initial investment amount back.

What is your budget if I may ask? And at what hardware have you been looking? What country you're from?
Even, I was read on some reliable article about the solar plants building cost. I might have said if that's not suitable in my mind.
The minimum cost for building my own solar plant are $10.000 and it was taken over 20 years for ROI, but I call this just saving some of my monthly bills. The solar plant might not have worth in this time.

You hear about  solar roof used   on houses? Those even  cost  almost $8000  which means  it  would   took  up  long  to reach your  roi .  Hardware  mining would  be  profitable  only  if  the electricity  cost  on your country  is  cheap if  its expensive  then  dont  bother to do  mining  farms.  It would be useless and  just wasting  your  time and  money.
Yes I agree to this because the profit of mining has decreased significantly but been that said if you are mining with a lot of hash power and you have electricity free (well, some countries like India I heard people are doing something and getting free electricity) or very cheap then you should try it and you will earn good.


Well another option for them is to have an solar panel so they can lessen the electricity cost eventhough they are not on india, and i think i've read many people doing that and some of them got really huge  profit from this doing,  but for the other country well surely mining is not for them since electricity is the most expensive thing they will encounter and also the maintenance fee will be follow.


And the difficulty should really we need to look up so we cannot be fooled by any frauds who make a cloudmining scam as a business, its not worth to spend with and surely they will take our money if we go continue to invest at them,




6626  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Bitcoin traders, why don't you just trade forex? on: December 02, 2016, 01:48:40 PM
Forex is more riskier than bitcoin trading. If you are not good at analizing, thats it. You are done. You should study forex first before entering. Its also very hard to manage. Forex can give you really big profit. But there is a low chance to happen. You could lose your.money fast. Forex is not a place for you if you dont know anything about it.
As Forex trading requires a continue study on skill development and technical analysis, that is a fact that forex is too much risky especially if you do not have a good knowledge on these aspects. Personally I stopped forex trading after my broker suddenly closed their services as they were not regulated for world wide.


Thats why crypto traders prefer to trade alts since we familiarize the flow of certain alt on the exchanges rather than doing some trades on forex while theres no assurance for us to earn since it needed more experience and people to guide us for any start up step on doing some trades, and also i think we can get more high risk on forex rather than alts.
6627  Economy / Gambling / Re: 1x฿it.com - Most Competitive Sports฿ook & Casino | ฿est Odds & Wagering Options on: December 02, 2016, 01:23:01 PM
My feedback

Yes i complained that i could not withdraw but 24hrs later it was OK

All markets covered live and UK/EU horse racing

bets are settled fairly quick


i rate A+


I think its really happening on some time on your betting and luckily it wad been fix by the devs, and surely this one will get more trust if they will act like that always, and surely i will bet again next time if i have enough time to monitor the sports i wish to bet on, and i think also those problem stated above is occuring when the devs doesnt see it nor they are busy to attain other problems regarding to their service,

But overall 1xbit is A+ for me at this moment.
6628  Economy / Securities / Re: Any Safe 1.5% Monthly? on: December 02, 2016, 12:04:15 PM
Totally no if he one you find is hyip/raveshare or any people offering to good to be true offer online, they will surely scam you since we are all anonymous here, just invest your money in life plans so you cam see better result for months of putting some money in their. And just be more vigilant to all people online since maybe one of them may fool you and stole your money for their own greed.
6629  Economy / Securities / Re: Putting 10 BTC to good use on: December 01, 2016, 12:56:22 PM
Just hold your coins is the only decent option.

1. P2P always loses money and is full of scammers
2. Not sure how you profit that way, but it might be possible?
3. Funding/ICO/Securities are all gambles and most of the time you loose... The only ones making profits are the ones selling...

This sums up my advice pretty well.
Not even mining is a great idea...
Those kind of investments are really not a bad idea since they really do have the risk of lossing money. Ex. You put up money on a p2p and others said its a bad idea but others could able to sustain and grow it. It depends on the person on how he manage it and avoid the possibilities to get losses of money. 10 BTC is huge already and you could actually put up money on some investments but if you are in doubt then its better to hold off.


Holding such huge numbers of btc will be good but if you think for profits well actually the best platform for that is on tradiny sites since 10 btc can already manipulate the price of certain coins, and don't just really on holding since it cannot do anything good always since price blatantly go down after the thunder of price upwards, and much better really to invest separatedly on some serious matters like as op said good ICO and gambling investment.
6630  Economy / Gambling / Re: 1x฿it.com - Most Competitive Sports฿ook & Casino | ฿est Odds & Wagering Options on: December 01, 2016, 12:26:34 PM
A top betting place for those who are keen to win and are not afraid of risking it all, they offer a vast range of Betting Scenarios, Sports & Games, go try it out for yourself.

risking it all? You really are a belligerent fool. Anyone who risks it all is for sure welcomed at all bookies, it is not a smart way to bet and that is how most mugs go broke. I suggest no one does that, I bet max 10 percent of bankroll, and thats rare. Usually between 1-5 percent.


Im afraid to do that since i can't risk all of my money just to bet on some certain games that i cannot assure to win or even if i familiar on the play, maybe i will just allocate little percentage of it so if i lose well it surely cannot affect me and cannot make me on bad situation, 5% os totally good enough and that is what i can afford to lose, we need to manage our feelings at don't be so focus on being a fan kid since we might gonna lose and turn bad.
6631  Economy / Services / Re: Sportsbet.io Signature Campaign(OPEN) on: November 30, 2016, 08:24:32 AM
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6632  Economy / Gambling / Re: Where Can I invest in Bitcoin Casino? on: November 29, 2016, 10:21:56 PM
Hi, I'd like to know what site I can invest money from it. Legit one's please. I don't know if this topic belongs in this thread. If not, maybe move this one.

If you know Bitcoin Casino that I can invest. Please list here and state why it is good to invest in that Gambling Site. Thanks guys Smiley

-Mark02
Well there are many list of gambling websites (include bitdouble.io) above me and i think All of them are legit but if you are not too believe, you can check on official thread all of them and you can see the review or experience from other users or for making analysis the website of gambling you can check on http://www.scamadviser.com/ for make sure everything will be fine.

Scam adviser can have false posts so its not all that trust worthy.


I wouldn't trust their review either since they are late telling that a site is a scam and mostly i've seen som hyips ther who turns scam that has paying status when its running and paying, thats why mostly i dont looking upto that site and i just do my own research regarding unto investmentd matter wheter its on gambling nor hyip, much better to look for feedbacks to thos experienced investors since they can tell us the truth about the program, 
6633  Economy / Securities / Re: Pig Farm Investment. 5 % Monthly. Has been running for 6 months. on: November 29, 2016, 03:17:02 PM
still no reply from OP Huh
You've been scammed, learn from this, and hopefully you will not be scammed again.


This is lesson must be learned by anyone scam incident has been scattered everywhere and we must don't believe on online investment since for me there's totally no real among them and i don't see any site can nor people can give that profit for just waiting, so lets wake up from reality that theres no easy money in this world all need hardwork and efforts, and those offering to good to be true profits and monthly with no basis and proofs of legitemacy is scam.
When i see this thread on the past i could say that its a legitimate one because of the payout that he has given to its investors with proofs and also have videos. If its a ponzi then its really hard to detect it from the very start since the return on monthly basis is not just that high compare to those ponzi sites out there but as ive read OP is not already responding seems it turns to scam or any other reason why OP cant able to reply. Lets wait before we fully decide regarding on this matter.


Those payouts has been used to attract more investors to invest in his false pig farm business and i really think at very first that all he was stated here is only a lie and wants only to run a scam ponzi one,  and how could you afford to wait for more while its quitely long days for not responding to the allegation here? And thats totally the breaking point that he is scam and nothing else added color, thats why we should be carefull since surely another modus  will be made again by scammers.
6634  Economy / Economics / Re: What is the best way to invest/grow your Bitcoins? on: November 29, 2016, 01:42:48 PM
There is no fast way to get rich there is always risk involved either in investing or gambling , i personally think that the best way to grow your bitcoin is to invest because gambling involves more risks and you can always get analysis to help you predict the market
Lol the OP where asking the best investments. and you say it is best to invest. I think there is no answer here
I thought gambling could even say investment, when you bet your luck by putting your money in the bankroll a gambling site

How come playing in gambling site became gambling? And as far as i know its playing and nothing else more while investing is you will gonna put some money on the gambling site you really trust with, and totally its hard to say that we where be lucky for this day since winning on that is truly rare, and so for i dont see any good reliable site to invest on.
6635  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Wanna buy Hashrate. Which companies u can suggest??? on: November 29, 2016, 01:15:32 PM
Hello everyone!
I've been searching on companies selling Hashrate. found out some pretty reliable, but before i do invest in that, pls share ur experiances: have ever bought hashrate? what was ur income and withing what time it can pay for itself?

Hashrate. New opportunities.
As other members said here about you do mean about cloud mining sites because buying hashrates are indeed cloudmining and as they said this is not an ideal thing to put your money on because most of cloudmining are total scams so this means its such a waste of money but there are cloud mining still operating as of today but i think its not profitable already on the long run.

There are still yet running cloudmining with good reputation and thats nicehash and hashflare but i dont think that they are good site to invest for now since as you said mining investment selection for is truly not profitable and surely those investors who put up some money on their well surely get some hard time to get their invesments back since mostly of legal for now gives such low roi to their costumers/investors and it will surely be no profitable at all as days passea by.
6636  Economy / Web Wallets / Re: Tor Wallet shady site? on: November 29, 2016, 12:23:16 PM
This is the first time i've heard tor wallet or just miss something about those wallet, but if you think that is shaddy wallet with no good reputation at all well much better for you to used mycelium and electrum wallets or anyother web wallet that applicable in your country for your convenience so you will not doubt for anything might be gone wrong for such matter, and also blockchain might be good but i don't like that wallet since our transaction is truly visible is someone will watch our wallet in their.
6637  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How long do you play per day gambling like Dice ? on: November 29, 2016, 11:19:17 AM
In general all gambling have the same difficulty level, so want to how much gambling sites we use then the result obtained is the same when we could use a science that is suitable for use do gambling. And the science is training the patience and are always looking for good data about the ongoing betting or already doing so.
All gambling games have equal risks : this statement is true upto a certain level because there are sports bettors who are winning like 1-2 bitcoins daily with sports betting, dont ask me how .. If I knew I wont be here talking. So what I mean to say is if those same people bet on dice then they can't even guarantee a 0.01 daily while with sports they are making 1-2 btc daily.
Exactly it's very difficult to make money in Dice game. You can put hope in sports betting no problem because if you lost your bet today next game you will win, But in Dice game, it's not like that we will get countinues red numbers. Very rarely you will get green numbers. So I will not play Dice game much time because I don't like to lose my money.

Correct, its truly difficult but what if you will hit the one time big bet wins? You will surely earn some profits with that and also i've seen numerous people winning on this matter but not all people have lucky roll to do that, thats why we just need tp be carefull and bare some thinking that its very hard to win on gambling and this game should need to be taken seriously since we have a higher chance to lose rather than to win on this kind of game.
6638  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: 9 TBC FOR SALE [THE BILLION COIN] on: November 29, 2016, 08:38:02 AM
I know tbc is a ponzi/scam coin but Im willing to buy if some one offers me 2k satoshi each tbc. If some one wants to sell that price to me please pm me. please dont judge my pricing please. Im just offering my bitcoin to buy your tbc
I have no idea about your plan, why you want to buy a ponzi coin? You will get nothing after you bought that, 2k satoshi still too high for this ponzi coin, IMHO, it should be worth 1 sat/each or doesn't worth with anything.


Its totally a worthless coin and as i've see its totally a ponzi one who same as other who came first they just using mlm system for this coin to be known to the public, and continously upwards of the price is totally shady and to good to be true, pretty unrealistic though, thats why im pretty sure that this coin is scam and nothing else more theres no exchange and loyalist are just hoper to get the one time pot in their life, and im wondering how those holder can hold on their behold shitcoin.
6639  Economy / Gambling / Re: Seeking bitcoin sports betting on: November 29, 2016, 08:13:48 AM
Sportsbet.io and the first one who commented you above is the one you are finding at, and you can at ease with that sites since the odds are great, and thats the only site i would trust for live sportsbetting and the one i am avoiding now is cloudbets since as you can see there so many numbers of bad claims in there site and thats not good to us if we seek comfortability in our gambling hours.
6640  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Sell something here. on: November 29, 2016, 07:43:22 AM
i think you can try in this forum or in another site like freelancer or fiverr because i see on that site, they are not just selling their skills but they offer many things. as long as what you selling is not harm anybody, i think its fine.

But then as the OP suggested, this one is good I think because many girls are looking for some beauty products for their skins but then again
only few ladies I guess who involve in this forum, better put it to some social media website where there are many girls involve.



Well difinitely right i can only see few gals here since majority of us users here are boys, and if i am i girl i wouldn't trust any online store or people that will sale beauty products to me since it may contain bad chemicals or just we say its fake and thats totally dangerous if we will used that, thats why its better to buy in physical rather than online and it could be turn bad if someone will build that business here since i think gals are beauty conscious and selective in there beauty needs and dont just buy their beauty pharapernalia anywhere.
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