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6641  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2017-03-29]Roger Ver was suggested to exchange BTC and BTU at one-to one ratio on: March 31, 2017, 07:41:44 AM
Talk about misleading/clickbait title to gain attention/views.
Nothing new. Everything is being done to attract people to click on their articles to generate a few pennies of ad revenue.

Roger Ver has expressed his interest, nothing more.
He did not agreed to trade, no specifics of the deal were shared. At this point we can label this 'deal' as publicity stunt/prank.
Bitcoin Unlimited support is not going to reach 51% of hash power any time soon.
Correct, if he was so confident that his altcoin was going to take over, he would take the bet at any time of the day without any hesitation. But that's not a big surprise. I add more value to the scenario that with artificially bumping BU forward, they (BU gang) just try to force Core devs to come up with some sort of mid-way solution, that's it.

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Other than that, it has been well pointed out in the last years that Roger Ver enjoys a great deal of wealth (few hundred K worth of BTC), but is there anyone knowing what addresses belong to him? Just being interested here.
6642  Economy / Speculation / Re: Why you should buy bitcoins NOW on: March 30, 2017, 03:55:27 PM
This strategy is called a Ping-Pong strategy

In general, the main problem with it (and Bitcoin is no exception to this rule) is that the price never trades in any fixed range for any reliable period of time. This period of time seems to be most important aspect as to why this strategy fails exactly in the end. 90% of all traders share common traits, i.e. their expectation (patience) period is essentially the same, and within this period the price very rarely moves in a certain range since the market always works against the mass psychology. It is either goes up way above or goes down way below that. Otherwise, most traders wouldnn't be losing all eventually, while some wouldn't be taking all that at the end of the day

Correct, it can't and won't last endlessly, but that's all fine as Bitcoin will offer traders enough other opportunities. Especially in situations as we are moving in right now with uncertainties regarding a potential hard fork. In order to get rid of these uncertainties, Bitcoin must scale, and as long as that isn't happening, we'll face a long period of heavy occasional price swings and range movements.
6643  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2017-03-30]F2Pool, why not pick a side? on: March 30, 2017, 02:54:17 PM
Bu is the  5th wave of bitcoin. Its a attack to kill it..
Segwit is best option.

Segwit is indeed the best option. Even when you consider that it isn't a perfect long term solution. It's important that all alternative sides are being put to stop. It's a shame that someone creeps in and just artificially sets up everything in a way that it will cause a fork as result. BU gets supported by shills and trolls, and perhaps a few people that see value in their proposal. Core has the majority of the support among people here, BU can't change a single bit in this regard.
6644  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Will Bitcoin overcome Paypal? on: March 30, 2017, 10:28:45 AM
Oh, PayPal is definitely a currency at this point. And pretty well accepted too. I've seen PayPal integration on every shopping cart I use online, at select fast food restaurants, some gas pumps. It's even an option at CoinStar.

And they are a bank as well. At least, they act like a bank, holding funds from consumers for non AML/KYC reasons.


PayPal is quite a popular payment option around the world, that's a fact, but that doesn't make PayPal a currency. PayPal is nothing more than a fiat related payment platform. And yes, they have a banking license that allows them to operate like a traditional bank, but that doesn't change anything from the fact that their main focus is still offering people a reliable payment platform.
6645  Economy / Speculation / Re: So you decide to sell now that Bitcoin is < $1000? on: March 30, 2017, 10:06:31 AM
it is easy only when you are saying it but when it comes down to actually doing it, you need a lot of experience to notice where exactly is the top and were exactly is the dip's bottom to buy back.

yeah after it happens you can open the charts and see where the top and bottom had been but when things are happening by that time there is no way you can predict it without enough experience and analysis.

so it is not easy at all. which is why holding long term is the way to go for most people

Holding is indeed the best option, but you don't really have to be an expert to spot the repetitive movements within a certain range of the market in current situation. Every dump that results in the price to fall below $1000, gets bought up to over $1000 within a reasonable number of days. As long as there is demand (and there is no reason why the demand shouldn't be there), the price will get bought up to over $1000 every time. If this isn't an easy way of making money, I seriously don't know what is. Smiley
6646  Economy / Speculation / Re: Why you should buy bitcoins NOW on: March 30, 2017, 09:35:51 AM
I try to spot the beginning of the stampede and profit from that and then always buy Bitcoin when the price take a dip.  

That's the best possible thing to do. While others get driven by fear and dump their coins as result, you just buy/trade and take advantage of the situation. I have been doing exactly that. Just look at how easy it is to make profit each time the price sinks under the $1000 level. So far, the price has repeatedly recovered its +$1000 position due to the demand. In a matter of a few days, you can make a more than decent profit, and that several times per month. We can thank the uncertainties around the potential hard fork for that, in this case.
6647  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I think the potential of BTC is over on: March 30, 2017, 08:59:06 AM
I like the fact that the mods are allowing free speech.
Nothing wrong with free speech, but things here in most of the BU threads get pushed to the extreme limits of free speech. Every thread regarding BU, scaling, transactions, etc, gets hijacked by the same group of people, and that every day, and by mostly the same group of people. Do you consider that to be a positive thing?

Then all we will have is uninteresting waffle from sig ad spammers.
Shills and trolls forcing through their BU "preference" is interesting?
6648  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How today was my last btc transaction. on: March 30, 2017, 08:30:23 AM
thats why weed need bitcoin unlimited .
We don't. It's Segwit that offers the best possible solution to end this nonsense. But hey, you are of course free to support an altcoin if you so wish.

Bitcoin is slow now
As DH also stated, pay a higher fee, and your problem is as good as solved. If you don't want to pay the network-situation-appropriate fee, then that's up to you, but don't complain.
6649  Economy / Auctions / [Domain] TXFEE.info on: March 30, 2017, 08:22:42 AM
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# Minimum bid increments : 0.001BTC
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# Escrow possible.


Only Bitcoin as payment is accepted.

I will always ask you to send the funds to : 12oWtmuwHipw9rC9BYUuMGWMWB3RxMsxUN

Only post in this thread if you are bidding.

By placing a bid you agree with :

# Winner of the auction pays first if you don't want to use escrow.
# Transaction must be completed in less than 24 hours.
# Private bidding is not accepted.
6650  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I think the potential of BTC is over on: March 30, 2017, 08:10:04 AM
Is it just me or does it seem like there's a shill team going around? New account spreading tons of FUD. Truth is, Bitcoin is working perfectly and 90% of my transactions get confirmed within 20 mins. It is working the same as it has been for the past 8 years.
i also observed that too. that a lots of newbies are trolling around the forum. and guess what, these newbies are not literally newbies. they are bunch of experts people (im basing on the way they post in the forum) somewhat paid to troll and spread FUDs hiding on a newbie account. what a shame!

It's all this forum that is offering people too much freedom to do basically anything that they want. It's annoying seeing that basically every thread in the Bitcoin discussion section gets taken over (demolished) by the well known group (newbie to legendaries) of shillers. As long as this forum doesn't take any actions (and this isn't likely to happen), these clowns will continue to fart all over this forum. So yes, it's indeed a shame.
6651  Economy / Economics / Re: At what exchange rate would you call Bitcoin dead? on: March 29, 2017, 03:40:55 PM
any thing below 400 dollars should be considered dead
How wrong can you be... Even if Bitcoin falls back to $1 it can't be considered the end of Bitcoin. Bitcoin comes to an end if all nodes and miners just shut down everything. That's when Bitcoin is dead, and nothing else.

because i remember bitcoin failing to break this barrier for some time
In every market there are certain stagnant periods where the price can't seem to move through certain levels, Bitcoin is definitely not an exception. It's all about supply and demand. At that point there was simply more supply than actual demand, and thus the market stays where it is. No big deal.

and am sure if prices were to go that low some mysterious altcoin might be double its value
That would be a normal market reaction. People move their money to places that at that time offer a better perspective.
6652  Economy / Speculation / Re: BTC price fall.Where will it stop? on: March 29, 2017, 03:10:12 PM
I think $1040 to be the stable range for the bitcoin itself
There is nothing special about the $1040 level. It's the $1000 level that is more or less a stable point as the price gets bought up to over $1000 each time the price gets dumped down.

and I don't expect the price will go down again in the future
That's just wishful thinking. Bitcoin has proven to do exactly that what people don't expect (especially short term wise). If we look at how the current situation is developing, then I wouldn't be surprised to see a fall back to around $900-$950 in the coming weeks. Market is moving within a certain range, so if you are able to use the repetitive market movements in your advantage, you'll make some easy bucks.
6653  Economy / Speculation / Re: Looks like 2000 next month on: March 29, 2017, 02:26:57 PM
But not going to hurt to believe in something right?! but if bitcoins price did drop the impact
will be harder for those who has high hopes.

High hopes (especially if they are beyond what's possible within a certain period of time) aren't worth anything. In that regard, you're right, people with extreme expectations will come out as hard loser. But that's nothing new. If you look at how many people were heavily disappointed in the block halving to not directly result in a rocket heading towards the moon, then is obviously visible that people here live in their own dream. That's why I always say; having certain expectations and being excited about Bitcoin is great, but don't expect any miracles to happen. It's not 2011-2013 anymore...
6654  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin or gold? on: March 29, 2017, 12:58:15 PM
If you want greater returns, then you need to go for HYIPs and other high-risk investments such as Bitcoin.

You can't seriously put HYIP's and Bitcoin in the same category of high risk investment options. Bitcoin offers a long term growth opportunity, which at the same time can function as currency, store of value, hedge, etc. HYIP's are nothing more than pure scams. In that regard, I am quite surprised that you advice people to put their hard earned money into obvious scams. It's a shame.
6655  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2017-03-29]SEC Denies SolidX Bitcoin ETF Proposal on: March 29, 2017, 12:45:44 PM
Not surprised.  If they're ignorant about one, they'll be ignorant about two. Or three.

Basically that. If they don't change from stand point, then I don't know when they ever will approve whatever Bitcoin ETF. It's not that much will change in the coming years in regards to the reasons of why both ETF's were rejected. It didn't even change a single bit knowing that SX has an insurance policy of up to $125 million. I am quite sure that the reason for both rejections is that the government doesn't want Bitcoin to step up a notch in ranking. Allowing institutional investors to enter Bitcoin through ETF's would make Bitcoin grow in such a rapid pace, that they prever to keep things as they are right now as that will buy them enough time to come up with something else to hold back Bitcoin's growth.
6656  Economy / Economics / Re: Tell me your predictions about Bitcoin on: March 28, 2017, 11:23:57 AM
But there is one problem - the plug. Still, if it happens, we can no longer talk about the growth of the bitcoin price for several months. This will be a big step backwards

What do you mean with the plug? If you're referring to the potential hardfork, then it will indeed cause a massive decline that could last months before we see somewhat of a recovery process starting up. But that's only if there will be an unsuccessful hard fork. Right now people can only speculate based on how much support miners signal for BU. I still think that the chances are high that it's only done to 'scare off' Core developers to come up with a mid-way solution. I can't seriously believe that miners are willing to jeopardise their own operations to allow Bitcoin to fork. But then again, there are enough people with a massive hunger for power that might be willing to pull the trigger. RV & JW I am referring to.
6657  Economy / Speculation / Re: People selling alts to go back in BTC on: March 28, 2017, 10:51:31 AM
based on what i have seen the reason why this is happening is because market is full of "trader wannabes". if you look around when someone asks how to make profit they suggest trading, and then when you look around more you see them call trading as gambling.
this only tells you that these people are "gullible". you tell them ETH or Dash is going to replace bitcoin and they rush to buy them to become rich when supposedly their prices reached $2000 but they face the reality soon enough and have to sell with a big loss and come back to bitcoin and start licking their wounds.

It's mind boggling how stupid certain people can be. In normal circumstances it's common sense that would tell you to stay the heck away from coins that are badly pumped already, no trading expertise required here. But these people go completely nuts on whatever comes at their way, and dive with full confidence into something that is on the edge of falling down in pieces. There is a saying; Greed makes blind - and that's really the case here. It will be a very expensive lesson for them.
6658  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2017-03-28]Investor Interest in Bitcoin Grows Despite Hardfork Debate and Falli on: March 28, 2017, 09:43:21 AM
Every serious investor (serious in the way that everything is being thought out well, and researched properly) knows that everything regarding the potential hard fork is nothing more than a short term annoyance. In that regard, all these endless drama discussions, shilling, trolling, etc, can also turn out to be a welcome entry point for investors as the price has taken a few hits, and will probably take a few more in the coming weeks/months. It's not for nothing that the price jumps back to +$1000 levels each time it faces a serious dump. Long term is all that we should care about.
6659  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The reason why people do not get Bitcoin. on: March 28, 2017, 08:54:24 AM
people that aren't into bitcoin can't be consider as cavemen. They are just probably not being reached by things about bitcoin. So they don't know why bitcoin is a good currency and investment. But once they had enough knowledge about it probably they are the ones that will voluntarily ask someone about it.

It depends on what exactly is the case. If people just don't know Bitcoin because they haven't heard from it, then you're definitely right. But if they have been influenced by the media with all their negativity regarding Bitcoin, and don't use or even dislike Bitcoin because of that, then these people are nothing more than a bunch of sheeps. How difficult is it to check for yourself to find out whether or not the media is right. If people would spend under a hour on analyzing the basic aspects of Bitcoin, I am sure they would love it. Especially because it allows them to outrule governments and banks. People have come to a point that they don't trust any of the two afore mentioned.
6660  Economy / Speculation / Re: People selling alts to go back in BTC on: March 28, 2017, 08:31:46 AM
In reality altcoins are not offering you much, altcoin developers can only promise that their coins will be used on daily basis.
That adoption will be great and coins will be used by merchant and services. But where you can use your Dash or Monero beside black markets?
Real usage of altcoins is almost non existent -  they are speculative asset and nothing more.

Couldn't have said it better. People however don't look at things from that point as they just see what they want to see (cherry picking). People think that the more features altcoins have, the more their beneficial/usability aspect is compared to Bitcoin. But the far majority of the features that altcoins offer are nothing more than gimmicks. They are meant to trap in people that will end up holding a bag of insanely overpriced coins that enjoy no real world usage. Like seriously, who buys Dash at +$100 (now it's closer to $80), and Ethereum at $50, and still think they are a fantastic investment? Huh
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