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March 30, 2017, 07:20:28 AM
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Any other people feeling the same like me who are tired of these slow confirmation like today?

Pay a better transaction fee, get faster confirmation. Problem solved.

Yes, just pay good fee so you gonna be prioritize for the confirmation of your transaction. The more you give the transaction fee the more you get prioritize that is how it works now. But still the fee is increasing day by day to make the confirmation possible in early time. Need to think on how to solve this confirmation time issue.
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March 30, 2017, 07:28:01 AM
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Any other people feeling the same like me who are tired of these slow confirmation like today?

Pay a better transaction fee, get faster confirmation. Problem solved.

Yes, just pay good fee so you gonna be prioritize for the confirmation of your transaction. The more you give the transaction fee the more you get prioritize that is how it works now. But still the fee is increasing day by day to make the confirmation possible in early time. Need to think on how to solve this confirmation time issue.

Most definitely, most of the people right now are not worried about the increasing fees for faster confirmations​of the transactions but what it will become in future..?
The developers and everyone whose in the Bitcoin universe should think about it and have to find a way to save the Bitcoin.

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March 30, 2017, 07:57:23 AM
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Any other people feeling the same like me who are tired of these slow confirmation like today?

Pay a better transaction fee, get faster confirmation. Problem solved.

thats why weed need bitcoin unlimited .
Bitcoin is slow now
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March 30, 2017, 08:04:34 AM
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Which in turn costs more then other traditional methods. Paying almost or even more then 10% of the amount being sent is ridiculous.
For large payments this is no issue. But for normal small payments it just doesn't make sense. Not when your making 20-50 transactions daily.
So you are making 1 transaction for every bet? Obviously the ten thousands of nodes cannot keep storing and processing all transactions PLUS all the casino bets in the world.

Just make a deposit to sites like https://nitrogensports.eu, make hundreds/thousands of bets and withdraw once a month. Needs only 2 transactions a month like that. No need to make 50 transactions a day lol.

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March 30, 2017, 08:07:52 AM
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I guess it should not hurt too much paying 400-500 bits per transaction for an active gambler- how much you bet each round?

On a separate note: A few days ago I sent a tx with a very very low fee of 0.25sat/byte... Actually I paid 100 bits to sweep an address with hundreds of tiny inputs (from faucet micro earnings many years back). It took less than a day for it to go through... I have no complain at all!
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March 30, 2017, 08:30:23 AM
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thats why weed need bitcoin unlimited .
We don't. It's Segwit that offers the best possible solution to end this nonsense. But hey, you are of course free to support an altcoin if you so wish.

Bitcoin is slow now
As DH also stated, pay a higher fee, and your problem is as good as solved. If you don't want to pay the network-situation-appropriate fee, then that's up to you, but don't complain.
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March 30, 2017, 09:32:03 AM
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For the matter of fact i don't think that bitcoin stops today.
As we coming into this bitcoin matter it has a long way to go.
It will not today or next tomorrow stopped but rather it is about to spread all over the world.
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March 30, 2017, 10:34:53 AM
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Use pre-funded accounts, and then you can stop clogging the network with small gambling transactions.

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March 30, 2017, 11:49:49 AM
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Any other people feeling the same like me who are tired of these slow confirmation like today?

Pay a better transaction fee, get faster confirmation. Problem solved.
This is the best suggestion so far that ive read and this is only the common way to fasten up confirmation on making bitcoin transactions.I do really feel the way you feel since im also a gambler and the hassle of slow confirmation times does really affect our gameplay or plans.

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March 30, 2017, 12:00:57 PM
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either use wallets that will automatically calculate the fee and even pay the fee for you, like directbet playing wallet and maybe some other online wallets or exchange, or use altcoins to bet, if the site accepts them.

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March 30, 2017, 04:49:39 PM
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Any other people feeling the same like me who are tired of these slow confirmation like today?

Pay a better transaction fee, get faster confirmation. Problem solved.
But, accelerate the confirmation fee already more and more high.
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Being a very active gambler i was usually pretty satisfied with btc. The stakes are higher then other sportsbook sites and i like the fact that i don't need any personal information. Well this all changed during recent events with the so called mempool. Just to make this clear, i have no idea how this all works and i don't care either,i just want it to work.

The problem with this is i play on various sites and most of the time i make last minute bets on games in different sports and the transactions have to be almost instant and be confirmed before the bets are being payed out to me again.

Most sites credit the btc after just 1 confirmation which by the looks of it is going to take hours again with almost 45.000 waiting transactions in the mempool. It happened before and it's happening again and it's time for me to say goodbye to bitcoin.

Any other people feeling the same like me who are tired of these slow confirmation like today?

The users want fast confirmations and low fees.  Blockstream controlled Core devs don't care what you want.  They're going to scale Bitcoin according to their own roadmap, and if you don't like, tough shit.

Any questions?





Faster confirmations, cheaper fees = segwit + schnorr sigs



Schnorr is only supposed to help about 25% from what I've read.


Segwit might be a small increase that would help
for 6-12 months but the fact is that it hasn't
even been accepted.

Sure, you can blame the miners for this but
you have to at least admit the simple
fact that if the core devs really wanted to, they could have
shepherded in an increase by now by simply
agreeing to a larger blocksize.

Meanwhile, adoption is going backwards -- not just
gambling as the OP says, but Dell and Fiverr are
dropping Bitcoin support because its too unrealiable
and meanwhile things are being built
on top of Ethereum, Litecoin, etc.

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Instant confirmations, near free = LN

First of all, LN isn't here yet.
Might not be here for 2 years.

And who told you it would be 'near free'?

You still have to pay to settle back to
the main chain. 

And what makes you think the first
LN implementations won't be
"Paypal 2.0"s?  Because that is
the easiest thing to build and
the most profitable, and therefore
the most likely.

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blocksize remains reasonable to be run under average computer = decentralized network


Well that would certainly be nice, but Satoshi always anticipated
that eventually full mining nodes would become large and expensive
as the network grows.

Do you realize that the LN is still going to require very large blocks
to provide worldwide scale? Some are estimating 133MB (google it if you want).

But there is some good news:  Olivier Janns seems to
have a great idea that will help decentralization and
both sides of the debate should like:

https://medium.com/@olivierjanss/the-solution-to-the-block-size-debate-42c3814ff481
 




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March 30, 2017, 09:21:06 PM
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These problem is the one reason why other economists suggest the Bitcoin Unlimited. They want to have fast confirmations so bitcoin users will never be converting to other altcoin, but just bitcoin. This is a problem that needs a solution quickly before the tower of users crumble down.
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March 31, 2017, 02:51:15 AM
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I gambled on the site for instant deposite it really instant I didn't have to wait for confirmation but the impact as I receive payment from the website were very long for confirmation and I had to contact the CS on the site. may I suggest to use gambling site where you must create an account and fill balance first before gambling

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April 01, 2017, 10:50:09 PM
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It's actually very simple, it's well known that transactions can take a while to confirm, even with appropriate fees added. If you want to place last minute bets, you should either make sure you have a certain amount of coins already in your account, or you just need to shift to a fiat based online casino. It's all up to you. By complaining here you don't solve anything.
Well Bitcoin came and raised all hopes to expect decentralized, instant and very low cost of transaction, but all that seems to belong to the museum at this point and people are legitimately feeling short changed if not betrayed. A suggestion to go back to fiat based casinos is salt to injury, much more like a stab in the back of any Bitcoin enthusiast.
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April 02, 2017, 12:59:22 AM
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Slow confirmation can be handled with paying high transaction fee, but the problem is, people want fast confirmation with low fee, that's ​why come out the forking debate, but for myself I will still used bitcoin even though it got high fee because there are some feature that i can only get by using bitcoin, that feature is anonymity, with this feature i can gamble without being notice by others


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April 02, 2017, 01:20:24 AM
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You can solve easily with the correct size fee that is not related the amount you spend but is related to size of transaction.

for example if you spend more input (2>) for make one transaction you create a "bigger" transaction.
56.45 sat/B - 372 bytes - 2017-03-27 12:29:00
0 confirmation

but if you spend just 1 input for your transaction with the right kb/size you don't have this issue.
92.92 sat/B - 226 bytes - 2017-03-27 11:43:39
38 confirmation

Check here or for example the right size for a tx or google by yourself because it's full of sites Wink about this.
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It still not solves tha most imporatnt issue. To process transaction fast we need to pay 200-220 satoshi per byte.
That will be ~45.000 satoshi fee = roughly $0.5 if your transaction is perfect 1 input TX!
For 2 inputs TX you will pay ~75.000 satoshi fee, so sending money via money transfer might actually be less expensive.
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April 02, 2017, 03:41:10 AM
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Use pre-funded accounts, and then you can stop clogging the network with small gambling transactions.

I couldn't agree with you more. Just be prepared to pay more for quicker transactions, why say goodbye when your grievances can be resolved? I feel you have to give it a second thought and pay higher if possible get an online wallet  for your gambling where they charge higher to deliver quick confirmations .
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April 10, 2017, 03:06:05 PM
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Exactly. I mean wasn't the whole point of bitcoin to get rid of those money grabbing bankers. To be safer, faster and cheaper. The way it's going it will only be worse. At his point we are stuck with even wore people nobody knows who thy even are.
Once every week, month whatever they are able to get the fee price up and earn more in the process.
Regarding on the last transaction, i do not mind when or what i do on transaction because i am supporting bitcoin as one of it community who uses bitcoin on a daily basis. I already do different transaction because i choose to have a suitable wallet for me which is called as coin.ph in this i can pay bills,buy load or even convert and monitor the change in the value of bitcoin so i can also check the price for my tradings. And regarding on trading i also used it on accepting bitcoin. So in specific i uses bitcoin in all transaction so there is no last transaction that i will do/
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