That's not a given yet, but this whole thing is kind of interesting.  I hadn't read much about Libra except for what I've heard on the forum and didn't realize that it's supposed to be a stablecoin.  Not surprising that the government would have a problem with a big corporation creating its own form of money, though I'm not sure how that's different from Joe Blow creating his own altcoin as a fork from some other coin, which we all know happens all the time.

Should be intriguing to see what happens with this, as I'm pretty sure it'll be a big part of crypto history once all is said and done.  Part of me thinks FB might just abandon their idea if it's costing them too much money to proceed with it, because it sounds like Libra is just Facebook's attempt to jump on the crypto bandwagon.  A stablecoin isn't exactly a necessity for Facebook to create, and I'm not sure what it's going to add to their bottom line.

No they haven't.  If you read the CNBC article, they just listed the risk factors and possible barriers which any responsible corporation has to do when they're seeking investors.  They also stated point blank that they're working with regulators to make it happen.

Yeah, I kind of do have a spotty internet connection.  Also, I've been mining Gridcoin with the BIONC application which uses up a lot of CPU power.  Not sure if that has anything to do with it, but I quit the app overnight last night and when I woke up, I'd successfully staked some RDD.  Interesting.

Thank you for that--I didn't even think to google for the answer to my question, but it figures Reddit would have the answer (I can't stand Reddit, by the way).  I'd staked some RDD a few months ago and had never had this problem, but at the time I wasn't mining the Gridcoin either.  I think I'll quit experimenting with Gridcoin, as the earnings are ridiculously low.

My suggestion is not to rely on these shady bounties as your source of income--a lot of them have proven to do exactly what you described, which is to change the rules and payouts as the bounty goes on.  It certainly isn't fair, and you've got my sympathy if you got screwed by any of these ICO projects, but you have to realize that most of them are scams anyway.  If they have no qualms about scamming their investors, why do you think they'd be straight with the people who help promote their projects?

Theymos basically just allows these bounties to exist on bitcointalk, but he and the mods have never had anything to do with enforcing their honesty--and it's not likely they ever will.  Just like you have to be responsible for your own private keys if you own bitcoin, you have to be responsible for which bounties you take part in.  Unfortunately there's a lot that's out of your control, and there's really no good way of knowing which ones are going to scam you in the end.

Yeah, but they're kind of one and the same.  The bounty managers either are in on the scam or have no control over what the project decides to pay out.

Sounds like hoping a fast-food worker doesn't piss in your McShake or something.  I would hope a mega corporation like Microsoft would have some sort of safeguards against a key-stealing code being inserted into their software, but I have to plead ignorance as to how coding is done and what kind of quality control these companies have.  It certainly is paranoia fuel, though.

Nothing's safe, then?  I don't know, maybe my level of paranoia isn't high enough, but has there been evidence of malware being inserted onto a device and crypto actually being stolen?  I haven't read anything like that before.  I've no doubt it could happen, but it doesn't seem to have...yet.

I've been staking some Reddcoin just for the hell of it, and the last two times a stake was generated I got the message in the title, "Generated but not accepted".  Oddly enough, another stake was generated tonight but with the date 7/24/19, which was the last time I got a stake that wasn't accepted.

Does anyone know what's up with this?  

Look at how much effort JayJuanGee put into his reply--and he earned merits for it.

One thing all merit seekers ought to be aware of is that regardless of how constructive your post is, if you're posting in a section that's filled with spammers who never read anything, you're not going to get those merits.  I think it's highly unlikely there are many merit sources scouring Altcoin Discussion for hidden gems.

I know you were addressing JayJuanGee, but my advice to you would be to either improve your English or hope your local board has a merit source lurking about.  There's no magic to earning merits--just take a look at some of the members who've earned the most and see what they did to get them.

That's the reason why such a feature won't ever be implemented.  I've seen forums that do exactly what OP is suggesting, but they have far fewer members to deal with.  I forget the figure, but bitcointalk has multiple millions of registered users with thousands of new ones registering every month.  There's no way in hell mods would be able to approve posts.

I wasn't around for that, but I've certainly heard about it.  And while I agree with you that it really ought to be brought back, I do believe I've read that Theymos isn't even considering it.  That's unfortunate, IMO.

This is kind of how I relate to all of the things said here, and this is a very interesting debate BTW.  I'm pretty sure if I dropped dead today that at some point someone going through my belongings would figure out the significance of those words I have written down on paper, or the steel wallet I have, or what my Ledger is...but they'd have to know my password and such as well.

I may be naive, but I'm really not worried about getting robbed for my crypto (not that I have a whole lot anyway).  My best guess is that there may only be a handful of people in my entire town who own any bitcoin, and nobody around me knows I'm into it and thus they wouldn't know what they're looking for if they robbed my house.  I'm probably not paranoid enough.

It's unfortunate, but that's the best advice anybody could give when it comes to ICOs.  The reason these scammy projects keep getting suckers' money is that those suckers think they're going to get rich and will miss out on a gold mine if they don't invest--so they're impatient and can't wait until a project proves itself to be legitimate before handing over their money.  At least that's the way I view it.

My advice would be to just ignore that whole space entirely.  I've never invested in an ICO and never will.  The only thing I see are a bunch of scam accusations against these idiots, mostly for plagiarized whitepapers and so forth.  Never have I heard that one of these projects has some sort of breakthrough technology that's been adopted by....anyone.  If someone knows of an ICO that actually fulfilled their hype and all their claims, please let me know.

Not only digitial assets, but various non-digital assets in general.  It's hard to believe that some people only have cryptocurrency in their portfolios.  Those folks are risking everything on something that could bankrupt them in the long term.

These are the main things I worry about with exchanges that aren't regulated by any government.  The reason I trusted Circle and still trust Coinbase (even though I don't use them) not to claim they got hacked and then run away with everything is because of government oversight and regulation.

Exchanges like Yobit?  Who the hell knows what keeps them in business.  They could easily pull a Cryptsy exit scam, and I doubt the Russian government would lift a finger to help anyone--in fact, I'm pretty sure of that.

Thus the biggest issue I have with exchanges is that of their trustworthiness, and every time I use an exchange like Yobit or one of the instant exchanges like Flyp.me, Changelly, and so on, I feel like I'm rolling the dice with my money.  Certainly if the transaction doesn't go right I've got no one to complain to.  It's crazy that 10 years after bitcoin was created we're still in the wild west where exchanges are basically unregulated.

Seems pretty Meta to me, but that's for the mods to decide if anybody bothered to report OP's post.

OP, you'll get there.  I've read a bunch of your posts and it's obvious you put some effort into them, which is what a ton of members who registered in 2017-18 and who are still Newbies-Jr. Members don't take heed of.  Nobody is going to earn any merits by writing short, lazy posts that are usually in very broken English.  If your grasp of English isn't that great, you can overcome that with effort--I've seen it done.  Plus there's the local boards to earn merits on.

So to all the noobs who are wondering what the trick is to ranking up these days, look at OP's post history.  If you're not willing to put in that much effort into your posts, don't expect to rank up past Jr. Member.  This is exactly what the merit system was supposed to do, by the way, i.e. force members who want to advance their rank to make constructive posts.  And for the handful of members who've actually managed to claw their way toward Hero member status, it's worked.

I always roll my eyes at the mention of "support levels" because I've seen so many stocks drop right through them after some technical analyst speaks of such things.  In any case, this is the truth:

Dropping $900 in whatever the time frame was is sort of normal for bitcoin--if you've been looking at the price long enough, you'd have seen swings which were much more dramatic than that.  10% in either direction isn't nothing, but it certainly isn't a crash by any means.

And hey, bitcoin is holding steady at $9500 right now.  It's a lot better than where it was in 2018 and most of this year, so keep that in mind.

Nice catch there, suchmoon. 

Yeah, the plagiarism was from 2017, but I'm pretty sure somebody can remember copying and then sort of modifying somebody else's post to make it look somewhat different--twice.  I think OP is a liar on top of being a thief.  Ta-ta, OP.

Yeah, see two posts above yours for the evidence.  The second sentence you wrote is good advice.  The forum detectives are always on the prowl for copy/pasters.

Did he get banned for that and unbanned?  That's news to me.

Anyway, OP presented some decent evidence and presented it well, which is why I merited the post.  I don't know what hacker1001101001's past has to do with any of that.  Either his arguments stand up or they don't, though I am curious now about what you've shown.

That's great though, and I appreciate the responses.  

Went to sleep for the night, but before I did I uninstalled all the apps I had on it and then reinstalled bitcoin and ETH, followed by the other ones I wanted--and it did indeed work!  The only issue I have with this is that I don't really need the ETH wallet installed and don't think I can uninstall it.  That's not a huge issue, though.

Thank you for that explanation.  I probably ought to have read more about the Ledger, but I didn't figure it would have that kind of "arrangement".  Good stuff to know, and I'm still pretty happy with my Ledger.  Beats the damn Keepkey, which is going to be used as a paperweight or something.  At least I got a nice little pouch with it.

Edit: I'm going to lock the thread now since I got my answer.

I've got a Ledger S Nano, and I'm trying to install dogecoin onto the device, and I keep getting the error "Bitcoin and Ethereum apps required" message when I try to do it.  I've already got the bitcoin wallet installed, and I've tried installing the ethereum one (even though I don't plan on using it and don't own any ETH).  

Anyone know how to get past this or why this is an issue?

I never subscribed to that one myself, but I hear it a lot around these parts.

"Buy low, sell high" is the gold standard of investment advice--it sounds ridiculously obvious, but many traders/investors don't have the balls to buy something when the price is low.  You've seen all the people jumping on the bandwagon once bitcoin starts to shoot up, and they end up buying it at the top.  Why do you think Warren Buffett made all the money he did?  He's smart enough to recognize when stocks are on sale, and it's the same thing with crypto.

Other good advice I've heard is not to take tips from people.  Another is to try to control the emotions of fear and greed when trading.  I'm not really an active trader, but that advice makes a ton of sense to me.

I doubt it was a paid stunt--it seems more like political posturing to me, which is usually why these idiots say what they do.  There's always going to be some concern about tax evasion when it comes to cryptocurrency, but this asshole is basically saying "can't we please think of the children!!", and that's a tired old piece of rhetoric.

I love how he immediately backpedaled by saying Zuckerberg isn't as evil as Bin Laden.  The guy obviously wants some media attention, and the best way to get that is to spout inflammatory nonsense about crap he obviously doesn't fully understand. 

A tool for drug dealers?  Last I checked, drug dealers readily accept everything from loose change to $100 bills.  A new cryptocurrency isn't going to change that in the least.

All cussing aside, I don't buy OP's argument as to why $13k was not sustainable--it can and will be as long as the price doesn't get there too quickly and speculators don't cash out at the top, which is probably what happened.

Bitcoin is below $10k right now, but the bull market is still on and bitcoin is just taking a breather.  I suspect that the price will get back to $13k and above within a relatively short period of time, and none of the mining stuff matters.  OP's argument just does not ring true to me.  Bitcoin's price is heavily influenced by demand, and when the traders start buying again you'll see what happens.

I agree with you, more or less, but I'd say it depends on what procedure you're getting done.  I'd have no problem whatsoever getting a cleaning or a tooth pulled in Budapest as long as I didn't get bad vibes from the dentist's office (or the dentist).  But I'd much rather get a major procedure done in my home country, in my home state, by a dentist with a good reputation that I can actually research easily.

However, this thread is about bitcoin, no?  I think it's very cool that some medical professionals are starting to accept bitcoin as payment.  Dental insurance is often very limited, so a lot of patients have to pay for things out of pocket and it makes sense that places like this would try to offer as many payment options as possible. 

What I'd like to see are veterinarians taking bitcoin (or any other crypto, maybe dogecoin heh heh).  Vets are expensive and are pretty much cash-only.  I don't think I've ever read of any of them who accept bitcoin or anything else.