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6661  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: do you can control your self when playing gambling? on: August 26, 2016, 08:11:36 AM
I can't control myself when playing gambling. Especially when I was winning I can't help my emotion to become overwhelmed and I don't care if ever I am going to keep on gambling because I have winnings already. And that is falling me into losing big winnings instead of saving my winnings I am risking it and betting it again.


I would not be surprised anymore to what you have experienced or still currently experiencing right now. Most of them gamblers are also in the same situation as you are. It is really hard to control our emotions especially if we are on the state of winning

You cannot call most of gamblers cannot easily quit its because my gambling habbits cannot really hit me harder even when i lose or even won because i can actually manage my self on when to stop since im afraid to lose bigger for playing more longer on any of those site. The one whos harder to bet is greed not the emotion its because you wanted to win more money and select to keep playing without thinking the risk you may got if bad luck strikes.
6662  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Panning to Invest in Genesis Mining, What You Say? on: August 26, 2016, 07:18:00 AM
Hi Guys,

I am complete noob in crypto mining and I realized that pc from my office is worthless for mining any coin. Now, I just did some research on cloud mining.

I saw positive as well as negative reviews about cloud mining, especially Genesis Mining. Though I would like to give a try.

What is your view? Should I go with Genesis Mining (if yes then which plans) or any other service? or stay away from it?


Thanks in Advance
Dudeperfect


Although I dont have any experience with genesis mining,I am skeptical about all cloud mining.Invest less and for short term if you want to invest in cloud mining.
I have lost 0.1 btc in one of the ponzi cloud mining Sad

It is true. Cloud mining is also a form of ponzi. If they are really have a mining company. Why they need many investor if they can afford to buy it using the profit of their miners. It is better to setup your mining rig than investing it to not safe cloud mining.

Maybe the used to join on that scheme now since they already know that their equipments is not profitable as the years come and people should really think twice before investing on those because there so many people claiming that they didn't get  their roi, so a big possibilities also it will happen to people who really insist to invest a new one on genisis mining, so better be away on those sites its because cloudmining industry are down nowadays.
6663  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: What's the heck with YoBit signature campaign ?! on: August 26, 2016, 06:45:22 AM
Btw is yobit campaign still running?I have checked that they have locked their signature thread
That's right, Yobit signature campaign is always running with smoothly. hilarious is closing the yobit signature thread because yobit is not accepting a new member to join with them, that is a decision is made by yobit's administrator and to prevent the signature threat just used for spamming.

The campaign is still running because their stats are being updated o their websites and also payouts are being processed. I managed to make a payout yesterday and I don't think there is any cause for alarm. The moderator locked the thread just to block those who like spamming about the withdrawal button not working.

I dont know why people still didn't notice that yobit campaign is not accepting new enrollee anymore, maybe they are done enough and get the participants they want and dont want to add spammers anymore, and thats goof for them but the only thing bad is the payment is still the same and the numbers of post are still so many.
they want to press their monthly spending in order to maximize the result and minimize the funds needed,by the way it's their right to set how much the reward per post and nothing wrong to be honest,but the one which really bad is their daily max posts,with 20 per day it could potentially trigger people to spam

20 post a day is very high amount of post to achieve so people can feel their earnings and some others selects to spam just to feel that they earnings on their campaign, but it is their choice since they are the one whos handling their account but one thing they must consider is do not make it an obvious spam so there beloved account  will not be compromise or worst it will might get banned by the mod.
6664  Economy / Services / Re: Is it possible to hire someone to post messages in an account for you? on: August 25, 2016, 11:32:55 PM
Hello,
I want to know if it is possible to hire someone from here, to post some messages in another account with a signature campaign, and be paid less than the signature campaign reward per post.
It's like a worker for you.
That is possible?

Its possible but i think this idea would be discouraged by mods and dt people, and also its very risky for your side since your account might get compromise and we don't know how people you hired post accurately to make your account remain safer and theirs a risk that your account will be used for scamming,loaning and anything bad you can imagine thats why better think twice if you do that,
6665  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Most Valuable Right Now? on: August 25, 2016, 12:41:59 PM
why are you asking us if what is the most valuable things we can buy on our bitcoin right now? of course it depends on every person and their needs. although some people use bitcoin to live luxurious. but for me, i will not use my bitcoin to buy something but i will invest it to earn more from it. i want to trade my bitcoin.
Yes, like you and me many people here will not prefer to use bitcoins right away. Saving bitcoins must be a most valuable by considering the profits we are going to enjoy in future. Without holding bitcoins, many earlier adopters have missed those benefits. I do not want to join them, if I can buy one good configured laptop right away with my bitcoins, then I may able to buy multiple system in future. This way my current action will bring more good things in future for sure.

But not all of us can't afford to hold their bitcoin for such a long time like just early adopter did,  and those early era of bitcoins is officially done and kinda where in middle stage with it so i dont think spending it would be a bad idea since not all of us are rich to handle that far, many bitcoin users here are jobless(not mentioning those businessman) that collects and earn bitcoin and cashout so they can have money to buy foods or make it their allowance money for weeks and i think that is the most valuable things they can do with their bitcoins and used it for good purposes.
6666  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Read this! It might be a revamped hashocean!!! on: August 25, 2016, 10:30:52 AM
Only those who has an active big investment in that site are expecting for a revamped since they still can't move on to what happen.

There are lots of announcements and even some withdrawals emails from the ho itself wherein if an investor like to have their investment refunded they must send some fees to them. And the funny part is, many ho enthusiast believes in these email shit.

Some of them are really expecting and yet believing when theres fake HO existing and telling they gonna do some refund if they will deposit to track their investment and some of fool investors believe and deposit, so again they turn out to be scam victim by those another scammers, people really need to be vigilant and needs to move on and realize that cloudminings are not worth where to spend your money with, because in the end of the game investors will end up crying and they will be surely be a scam victim.

you can't blame them because some of them almost a 1000$ so risking for that small chance that there investment will get refunded. I pity on them. but I'm sure that Hash Ocean will never get back again because they scam a huge amount of btc and leave without leaving trace on the owner. The best exit ever. they use the bitcoin halving as excuse that they can hold anymore and announcing that they are attack by hacker. hahaha.
very fool excuse.


Almost all hyips using that hacking excuse, they are just making it as excus so they can have enough time to transfer their scam money to the mixer sites so the transaction will not be traceable,  and how pity for those fallen big investors for being became scam victim of an unsure investment site,  and 1000$ is pretty serious big money men how could they trust their big money when people who runs for that site is unknown and currently never be known as of this time.

Well thats lesson learned for all of hyip investors. And i think mostly of victims now are away and never invested on any of those again.
6667  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can gambling be considered a "high risk investment"? on: August 25, 2016, 08:45:08 AM
Well yes it can be considered an investment and because its high risk that's why its also a very risky one.

Basically any types of stock or forex trades can be considered high risk investments also if you don't know what you are doing,.
no it is not , gambling and investment are pretty much different ,
you can not compare it and consider gambling as high risk investment ,
in gambling you will not receive your capital back if you lost but investment you can still expect to get your capital back ,
for me gambling and investment are different at ll.

Op clarify things that although gamblings is not investment,  but as i see that gambling is very at high risk option for us to do since we can lost big money from it if we insist to gamble eventhough we are about to lose everythinh we've got and also maybe you should go if you want or anybody wants to invest on casino eventhough it is risky but this thing would provably can generate us money since house most get the wins at all.
i know more likely he means a HYIP (High-Yield Investment Program) services ,
and its actually an investment with high chance to lose money instead just high risk ,
as most of HYIP services run for nothing , and not pay for a single person ,
it's not gambling nor investment for me .

What?? do you see OP asking for hyip investment?  I think your opinion is wrong in OP's inquiry,  and provably he wants to ask and get more ideas about bitcoins casino's investment and no hyip involvement as stated,  but i agree on your thoughs about those shitty hyips because it will steal your money just the same doing of other who turned scam already. 

Maybe try to suggest that can be usefull to ops question so he can get more proper ideas that can enlightened him about gambling by himseld or to invest since all of them have risk but in different ways since to gamble is you are the one who risking by your own skill and to invest is just waiting for miracle and earn if the house will win.
6668  Economy / Speculation / Re: [Weekly Report] Bitcoin price weekly prediction on: August 25, 2016, 06:55:23 AM
I don't expect anything interesting to happen beside the regular $10-$20 ups and downs. There is even nothing that might get the action to come back for now. We'll stay below $600 for a few more weeks.

it a bit go up, hope it will reach out 600$ by end of this week

That could be the nearest point where the price would going for now but since the price are slowly going well we might gonna see it in your speculated time,  but i think also if many people would sell their bitcoin i can say that price would provably turnback or gone stable since we don't have good news nor certain good events to wait to help the bitcoins price stretch thats why im wondering if the price really would go up for upcoming september.
6669  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: do you can control your self when playing gambling? on: August 25, 2016, 06:17:11 AM
I can do that. I always control my self when playing gambling
I have a target some btc, lose or win I will stop it to play again and I will be back of tomorrow to playing again.

It is a good method to gamble with some fixed amount to control yourself without losing much, but gambling every day may not be a good idea because slowly you may addict to these games and later you may start spending more money due to addiction. I also always play with some fixed amount but not every day, maybe weekly once or twice.
Yes. every plan for a better gambling is slowly getting fade away. I have some experience of controlling myself for better results but small profits. But over time, I did not follow my rules are going to bend them by some possible ways life playing in multiple sites to breach and sticking with time limit. But as a conclusion, I must confess here I can not control myself when playing gambling.

For me i manage really myself upon not getting so hook with gambling since its very hard to earn bitcoin online, i can't afford to lose my hard earn money for just unsure profits on gambling and so by that i really successfully managed and not to reach beyond my limits,  and also i've seen some people cannot control themselves since they are going to retrieve their losses when they see that their money are slowly melting for bad luck instance and that is bad scenario since people can actually lose more even bigger if they will continue to do this bad habit.
6670  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: What is best way to make money from Bitcointalk? on: August 25, 2016, 05:33:41 AM
ICONOMI pays btc for wearing their signature but I'm just a Newbie and not available for applying.

For your rank its very difficult to find an signature campaign who will accept you but if you really want to earn by your own efforst you can try seek some new announce ICO on altcoin announcement section and translate their ANN via your native language and post it on your local boards and so by that job you can actually earn decent amount for this job, and also try to create some twitter account which have crypto related followers so you may also join and get some bounty rewards from twitter campaigns.
6671  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Who has cashed out from steemit? I think it's a ponzi on: August 25, 2016, 04:56:40 AM
I think steemit is a big ponzi, can someone show some payout proof?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9PWO8flSp4
You must provide proof yourself instead of asking others to provide it to establish your assumption.There are lots of people getting paid from steemit everyday
if OP really not getting interested and just don't trust the site then why putting an effort to see what's the result? although asking for people's review is more efficient,by the way OP is just asking for payment proof and not only a words like this "There are lots of people getting paid from steemit everyday"

Maybe OP just seeking some strong proofs of people getting payed for their effort on steemit,  and really i see some of my friends earning and getting there payout their but not totally 100% since it was stated at their rules that other half wi became steem power wich you cam use in future,  and if OP still confused and didn't get the info that he wants maybe he should pass that site and move on,  dont go for something you dont know OP.
6672  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: what is definition gambling in your mind? on: August 25, 2016, 04:26:48 AM
Many people said the gambling is just a game and another people said it is Investment. How do you think?  Roll Eyes

gambling has a clear definition and in my opinion only fools think of gambling as an investment. gambling is a game that you can play for fun and take risks there. but since it is unpredictable you can never think of it as an investment. and doing so will result in losses.

No we can't call them fool its because their are existing gambling casino investment maybe they define for themselves to invest rather than playing and also i think people definates gambling as milking cow since many people really trying their luck to gamble their little money just hoping to earn big from it,  and i've seen some addicted or enthusiast asking some strat for sane gamblers and hoping to win if they will used it but in reality it will never works when the game is on.
6673  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][PSB] Pesobit, Philippine-based crypto [ICO Live] on: August 24, 2016, 11:59:25 PM
Trading market looks very lively in recent days. Investors are too busy with their transactions. They will be back soon to participate in the ico.PSB will reach its deserved value  Cool

Introducing Pesobit to exchange's chat room is also a good idea. Active traders don't often pay attention to invest in any else except for trading. However losed traders always ready to invest in some projects if they know about it.

Maybe it can get good result if someone introduce in their but i think traders would rather prefer those ready to trade coins since some of them cannot wait for the ico ends to earn,  but how ever it can get great exposure for pesobit so people can expect that coin and speculate when the time it will added on some exchangers.  

BTW OP since september is approaching where exchangers do you plan to add the pesobit coin?  I hope your team don't think to add it on yobit and instead plan to add this coin on polo or trex so this coin can get bright road to come up.
6674  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: what is definition gambling in your mind? on: August 24, 2016, 11:28:14 PM

Many people said the gambling is just a game and another people said it is Investment. How do you think?  Roll Eyes

  You can't look at gambling as an investment. That's just wrong. Gambling is a game where you risk some funds in hopes of instantly winning more money whereas an investment on the other hand is you place your assets with a house with the idea that it will provide future income.
Yeah your right gambling is still not good to invest because you will still lose instead of making a profit
If you have a good how to manage your own blog put some ads  you will earn a good amount..
thats true, with gambling you will always lose no matter what, and the definition of it in my head is that it is the worst decision you can do with your money

Depends on how you decide for it and how you treat it its because gambling can make you earn nor lose depend on the decision you made, and anyonr of us provably have defination of it but i think we share one goal for that and that is to win and to have fun when gambling, but on the other hand gambling can be worse if you decide to gamble all your wealth in their so better give a chance to think nicely so we cannot define it worstly if we lost something big by our fault.
6675  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Earning Gambling Site? on: August 24, 2016, 10:53:30 AM
profitable gambling site? is this some kind of joke? =)

maybe the OP think that he can make profit from gambling site and the OP was tempting and want to know is it true or not. and i think so far the OP will be re-thinking again about his/her question because there are many answer from other member that we can not expect too much from gambling site, and there are no profitable from gambling site if we are just new in gambling site. just playing gambling for fun and don't think that we can get much money from that. but maybe for some people which is pro gambler, its could be happen. but for ordinary people, better to stay away.

I think OP is newbie in gambling want to know about stats and what gambling sites are profitable to play with, and for OP maybe he can get learnings from suggestions here and some annoying,  but to think of it for yourself does anyone gets more profit to it?  Maybe yes if the luck is on their side,  but don't just really on earning a profit on gambling site its because you can lose more money from it and your expectation will be not reflecting to reality.
6676  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can gambling be considered a "high risk investment"? on: August 24, 2016, 09:53:36 AM
Well yes it can be considered an investment and because its high risk that's why its also a very risky one.

Basically any types of stock or forex trades can be considered high risk investments also if you don't know what you are doing,.
no it is not , gambling and investment are pretty much different ,
you can not compare it and consider gambling as high risk investment ,
in gambling you will not receive your capital back if you lost but investment you can still expect to get your capital back ,
for me gambling and investment are different at ll.

Op clarify things that although gamblings is not investment,  but as i see that gambling is very at high risk option for us to do since we can lost big money from it if we insist to gamble eventhough we are about to lose everythinh we've got and also maybe you should go if you want or anybody wants to invest on casino eventhough it is risky but this thing would provably can generate us money since house most get the wins at all.
6677  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trading is unpredictable job. on: August 24, 2016, 08:54:02 AM
That depends actually, because i know many people who can constantly make profit from trading, they are managing funds of their clients.
They leave from commision out of it, and they can do it for a long time. It is very hard to do, because you need to be well-educated in that area.

Trading is not an easy way to earn money like what many people thinks. There are a lot of good traders lost all lot of money in trading even though they are well-experienced traders. Mostly they will earn a lot of money from managing people's funds than from trades. I do it by myself with a small amount, buy and keep it until prices go up to sell.
It's true. If it were easy, everyone would do it.

Many people really thinks at first that tradings is really easy job but suddenly realize that it is hard to do it since market is unpredictable and we down know what might gonna happen to the price when where away from monitoring it,  but although trading is unpredictable and hard it is the only program that we can actually earn decent money by our efforts it's just a matter how much patience you have and stress can take to earn and battle against trade wars.
6678  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: what is definition gambling in your mind? on: August 24, 2016, 08:22:55 AM
Many people said the gambling is just a game and another people said it is Investment. How do you think?  Roll Eyes

it has been discussed so many times in many different topics about differences of gambling and investing.
they are not the same thing. investment is something that you can manage and more importantly something that can give you profit consistently but gambling is not at all like that because in long term you will end up losing money instead of making a profit.

You should be knowing that there is no rule that investments should give us consistently profits because not only in casino investments or in gambling but any investments got a risk of losing our money. We make investments to grow money but in many investments they won't give any guaranty for profits.

There's no rule of gaurantee profit but you can make sure that you can acquired some profits by joining or investing at the house and it is really good since all you need to do is to wait for the house to win and accumulate little percentage of profit,  thats why for us to decide on where should we go and where would we fit in so better think twice and be smarter enough so you can overcome the gambling delimna.
6679  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Read this! It might be a revamped hashocean!!! on: August 24, 2016, 07:28:56 AM
Only those who has an active big investment in that site are expecting for a revamped since they still can't move on to what happen.

There are lots of announcements and even some withdrawals emails from the ho itself wherein if an investor like to have their investment refunded they must send some fees to them. And the funny part is, many ho enthusiast believes in these email shit.

Some of them are really expecting and yet believing when theres fake HO existing and telling they gonna do some refund if they will deposit to track their investment and some of fool investors believe and deposit, so again they turn out to be scam victim by those another scammers, people really need to be vigilant and needs to move on and realize that cloudminings are not worth where to spend your money with, because in the end of the game investors will end up crying and they will be surely be a scam victim.
6680  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What stuff you buy when you win gambling? on: August 24, 2016, 06:25:06 AM
if i win small then i will just keep it as my next capital for gambling, when i win big in gambling i plan to have vacation with my friends and buy a lot of souvenir from the place i visit, so all of my friends can enjoy my winning, but up until now still havent win anything yet, even in small bet i also lost

Most of the gamblers dreams the same, to win big and share it to those they love, but most of the time what happens is they were busted and their dream won't happen and if they win, there is sometimes a diversion in plan and save it and sometimes due to urge they'll just gambling it away again.. So the money just pass by their hands...

But anyway, last time I bet with my friend on a guitar show on who will win, and then our bet is 10 dollars and I win, and after winning I just told him that we'll just use the money to drink liquor...  Cheesy

The dream is good, but the method of earning is not good because gambling is not a way to earn money but it is a way to spend our earning to get some entertainment whenever we are bored. If you use this method to earn lot money then surely you will lose whatever money saved until now and at the end yourself can't go on any vacation and forget about your friends. So find some other better ways to grow your money and good luck to you.

Provably that scenario you think is true but you can actually buy some goods if you hit some jackpots for that game, and also you cannot win big money if you dont bet on gambling sites Smiley, but seriously don't ask on what you can buy if you win on gambling just focus on what you are doing and don't expect even more higher because if you dont meet your expectation and lose big money on that you are still the one who get depressed and broke.
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