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6681  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: I quit trading on: October 17, 2017, 11:31:48 PM
After 2 years of trading,  you lost 7 btc, Careful on scam ICO's, better you hold your btc, and wait for another opportunity to soar up, or learned from your mistake, moved on and start another chapter of your life.
He used his money to trading, it does not mean he has joined in scam ICO's project. However, by some reason he has lossed a huge amount of Bitcoin, if calculate to current value of Bitcoin, 7 BTC = ~ $40,000 OMG Shocked
That's huge with the current price but he already made his journey and he failed that why he quit. If we only know the outcome then we should only be holding it until the price will increase. With bitcoin you do not need to do trading actively as it will increase the value of your assets overtime even if you are just only holding it, also you do not have to worry because you are in the early phase and it's expected to go mainstream and we won't see the price today anymore.
6682  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you set up limits for yourself? on: October 17, 2017, 10:55:04 PM
Ofcourse im putting up some limits on my self when playing gambling because i need to be productive and need to manage well my money. I've lost all my money once and after i put limits on myself and controlling my greediness I successfully earn a lot of money . im not actually more into real casino i way more playing on a gambling site and sports betting where i could actually win with a 75% chance.
Setting up limits to your self is  a good way about self control. Especially in gambling you need to set limits because here you only have two destiny its either you win or you loss. Limitations will surely help you on how to manage money.
Exactly, you'll never find satisfaction in gambling if you will not learn how to limit your bet.
This kind of game where there is a big risk is something that we have to be more serious, although it's fun but without limit we will never gonna experience the real fun because in the long run when we loss control we will lose more and more money which will only make us desperate in gambling. With limitation we will be able to stop when needed and without regrets because we are sure spending what we can afford to lose only.
6683  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] Change - The First Decentralysed Crypto Bank [ICO September 16th] on: October 17, 2017, 10:41:14 PM
ICO price was 1 ETH = 500 CAG.  

I think there could have been more communication from the team to avoid this.

When you google change bank, you just get the website. Though good, they also need a reddit page, among other things. Many easy things to do to get word out about how big their project could be!



as long as they're not officially  listed on a real exchange, prices are still a guess
ICO price does not matter anymore because there are a lot of project when listed in a certain exchanges are trading below ICO.
The most important thing is we have achieve the first stage which is a successful ICO and when it's on exchanges let the traders decide but we always hope for the best and we should this one will be traded based on ICO price or over.
6684  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: you need to overcome your fear of losing money on: October 17, 2017, 12:58:21 PM
Losing is part of successfully trading. If you treat losing as part of trading then you are an experienced trader.
But one should know when to sell and when to buy to avoid losing money. Its natural really if you're a befinner but as time goes by you should learn from it and never do the same mistake twice.
well everyday is a learning day inside your trading activity, you will lose for sure but the ability to bounce back and work hard to recover your loses will allow you learn pro traders also got some experience of having some fear starting over again after they've got loss their initial investment but because
of their willingness to work hard they able to survive and now taking advantage.
There is no overnight success in trading, although we are expect to have a big profit but we should always consider the amount we are risking.
For beginners it's important with a small amount so the risk is lower, eventually as you keep adjusting your mistakes you will be able to improve slowly reaching your expectation of profit, you risk based on your self assessment so if you believe you are good enough then that is the time to risk big amount.
6685  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Will Bitcoin be replaced by another cryptocurrency? on: October 17, 2017, 12:31:58 PM
It won't be easy for another currency to take the place of bitcoin and if that currency will be, it won't come soon.
For sure because bitcoin is so popular now and the reason why the price keep increasing is because there are a lot of backers who want to ride with the success of bitcoin. Bitcoin is the origin of decentralization so it's just fair to support it and hope for a better success, if this will be replaced then maybe because people are not trusting it anymore but they will not stop putting their money in another decentralized systems.
6686  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is Bitcoin Really The Future Of Money? on: October 17, 2017, 11:13:10 AM
bitcoin is really the future of money which is thanks to investors , users . i think bitcoin will grow about next years or other coin replace the bitcoin position .
Bitcoin will continue to grow because of it's growing popular, the more there are demands from the people the we can see success and that will make the value to increase. The reason why most of us are holding bitcoin for the future is because we believe the increasing demand will drive the price to a substantial amount and we are expecting a great return for our investment.
6687  Economy / Economics / Re: Is it better to save money or invest it? on: October 17, 2017, 04:43:49 AM
Savings and investment both are equally important in life. I would like to save the money and what ever I saved I start investing systematically to avoid any panic situation when ever I need money.

Investment should be from saved money so that it can bring addition income for as rather then just sleeping my savings in bank.
Saving should be prioritize first before you make a decision to invest, there is much risk involve in investing therefore you need to study well so you will succeed. Always bear in mind that only risk what you can afford to lose, you have your savings for your future and it should not be risk in investment, we have to carefully plan our funds so we can manage it well based on it's fund allocation.
6688  Economy / Economics / Re: Can Bitcoin also lead to corruption ? on: October 17, 2017, 04:30:03 AM
I am thinking an exact situation that connects bitcoin to corruption. Since BTC is not controlled by the government or any other organizations, I don't think so it will lead to corruption. But rather than that, scammer is everywhere. They exist on ICO, online business where bitcoin is involve.
Corruption does not only happen in the government on a certain organization, one can do corruption if he chooses and with bitcoin it's possible as it's easy to launder the funds compared in using the service of the banks. That is why now the bank are challenge to do necessary steps to monitor our transaction especially those who are in their watch list, but we cannot be stop, we transact based on our will and we have that freedom.
6689  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: I quit trading on: October 16, 2017, 11:34:34 PM
altcoin prices are currently down, so chances are now is a good time for trading. get out of trading just because some mistakes will only make you lose and look weak. well, do not give up just because 1 error.
I never quit in trading even value of bitcoin and altcoins are slowly fall down, because trading is one of the most good source of income. Due to trading is easy to used and I learned a lot in bitcoin thru using this, I know how to handle coins and I learned how to read the fluctuation of coins and altcoins in the market.
Good for you, the value will pump and dump and that is a nature of crypto currencies especially the highly volatile ones.
When you are a real trader you will like the price movement because you can find great opportunity to buy low while selling high at a short period of time. In my case, I don't trade a lot but I have my holdings for long term, bitcoin is the biggest in my portfolio.
6690  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why bitcoin is not supported in some countries? on: October 16, 2017, 11:05:42 PM
I think it is more like of the pricing. the unstable price of bitcoin is enough reason for any organization to have a double thought on the bitcoin option, a nation will have to have every form of review of it before considering it.
The price is not the reason because the volatility is just its nature so if they will understand bitcoin it would be easy for them to embrace.
For users who just want to benefit the system for online transaction they don't care much about the pricing because at the end of the end it's just fiat to bitcoin and vice versa conversion.
6691  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] Change - The First Decentralysed Crypto Bank [ICO September 16th] on: October 16, 2017, 10:45:44 PM
Congratulations on the successful ICO, what are the plans after this, what exchanges do you plan to list this one?
Anyone post here the total amount raise, the last time I checked it was over 50K eth and I think it did not achieve the hard cap but that was a decent amount..
6692  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: When do YOU sell? on: October 16, 2017, 10:38:15 AM
Only at all time highs but I try to never sell. It's best to keep your stash growing so that the fiat value can grow exponentially each year.
If we can keep our bitcoins longer the better because the value continues to grow, we have to think more on our goal so we will not be tempted to sell. We always have a chance to sell and make profit but we should aim more because bitcoin is destine to be great and that means the price will rise substantially as it continue to be in the circulation.
6693  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: ☘☘☘☘ Edgeless EDG Tokens On Liqui.io(BLACKJACK BETA LIVE)☘☘☘☘ on: October 16, 2017, 08:56:26 AM
A lot of the large ICO investors are still in EDG, they want to see the platform and/or the license released. So close to the finish line, they will wait until launch. And when it does, boom! A larger rally in one week.

Bitcoin volatile rise is just shaking up the weak hands. The declining USD value of EDG is not really that bad.

Any update from the team on the license release? We are midway of October and I believe should be seeing some update from the team on this piece of information.Would love to see EDG in action before the fork and to pull some of the BTC holders back to EDG.

Just waiting, I am sure the license will be release in this month. Lets the team working about that. We hope the license will be release soon and the price is back to 40k satoshi.
They said they will give an update this month so we should expect that, actually the license is a big deal for investors because it's a key to make this a more progressive casino so I hope they will have it soon so we can see the price back up again. I miss the 40K sats as well, but I know it will happen soon so a little patience is needed here.
6694  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Will Kill The Income Tax on: October 16, 2017, 07:12:48 AM
Yeah I already see that coming. If bitcoin has already popular or common to the industry,  I mean every person are doing bitcoin then it means that their income has no tax. They can earn so much money without thinking that they have tax to pay. That is also the reason why some government is threatened in bitcoin.
This would be a big challenge for the government now, they control they create the law and therefore they have the power to regulate or make a law that will favor to them. However, as the decentralized tokens are now more popular, this will minimize the collection of income tax by the government as anyone can under declare or hide their real income, let's just wait and see what they can do.
6695  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Suretly - first crowdvouching platform ★ ICO is over ★ on: October 15, 2017, 08:25:22 AM
it has been week since the token launched and yet daily volume is 59 usd.
59 freaking dollars seriously what is going on.the first thing they need to do is get listed into a half decent exchange.
even liqui would make a huge impact.
i really am sorry for ico investors who bought 10 sur for 1 ether.
i bought 1/4 the ico price yet i am extremely disappointed.

We have a problem here if we expect it will grow fast, just like you I took advantage of the sale because the price is below ICO price but I don't expect it will rise that easily, there is a reason why the price is still low and the volume as well. It's the devs action now on how they will make an effort to list this token on some bigger exchanges, let's aim bigger than liqui, bittrex would be the right fit and they can only do that if they will deliver with great updates.
6696  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin is Becoming a Global Currency on: October 15, 2017, 07:45:24 AM
I think bitcoin already is the international currency it is the only currency that is using almost around the world, but ofcourse btc still not recognized by government is not that good but i think that will gonna happen sooner that people using or appreciating bitcoin is increasing, and bitcoin really is efficient that it will really helps a lot of ordinary citizens..
The government can do what they want to protect their own currency but that would not be the hindrance on the success of bitcoin.
Even it's not regulated yet in most countries but we have already seen how the people supported it, based on the total popular we can say that only few numbers are using it but the continuing popularity makes bitcoin to have a bright future ahead.
6697  Economy / Economics / Re: Is it better to save money or invest it? on: October 13, 2017, 10:27:18 AM
Imo a correct mix should be used between saving and investing.
Who knows when you have a medical emergency or family issue and you need liquid savings...

Correct mate, it should be properly assess since savings is needed for some emergency purposes while investment can take a long term and we should properly choose something that we expect to generate huge profits.
Never compromise the money that is intended for emergency because investing is a big gamble.
Although we are so positive we can increase our money in investing but the reality will prevail, we have to be good enough in order to make money and also that depends on what kind of investment we are looking, if it's bitcoin then I would say there is a big chance of success but we don't know when we will profit.
6698  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: 🔥[ETT]EncryptoTel: Secure VoIP and B2B blockchain communications infrastructure on: October 13, 2017, 09:51:29 AM
I would love to switch my tokens from Waves Wallet to MEW but i think this is still not possible at the moment.
Thats why i think i just keep hodling my ETT in Waves until we some news.

I originally trusted the project and i still think they can archieve there goals Smiley just need more time.

I too feel the same to have moved from eth to waves and sell it when the buy wall was set.The price is really down to 1/3 and is still going down.Never saw the eth buy wall, maybe I missed that.Some projects are really struggling to come back to their ICO price which has dual blockchain like mobilego,ett.

Thats true, the dual blockchain projects dont look good. Unfortunately i have both of them  Roll Eyes. So i think there is really no other way than just wait.
That's the best way to do now while we are waiting for the big news, it's been awhile already since the price is like this and it's slowly falling while the price of bitcoin is rising. I could have get out easily when the buy wall was created but with my trust and prediction that this year it will progress big, I prefer to hold my tokens.
6699  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What do you like best about bitcoin? on: October 13, 2017, 07:34:19 AM


What do you like best about bitcoin?
Decentralization, transparency or easier to move?
Or just it makes you look cool? Wink
What I like about bitcoin is that, it already changed a lot of people's lives. I really think that having or earning bitcoin can really change one's life. It is also good to invest or to earn some more bitcoins. Another thing is that, when I learned about bitcoin and how to earn them, I was able to save money.
Only those who believe and work hard to acquire bitcoin has changed their lives, just believe in bitcoin that it will be the new system that will dominate the online world. The world is moving and we should give way to this revolutionary system that the world is needed because it can give a lot of benefits to all of us in terms of transparency, from centralized to decentralized, I guess that would be more progressive.
6700  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] Change - The First Decentralysed Crypto Bank [ICO September 16th] on: October 13, 2017, 07:13:07 AM
Finally this ICO move over 50k ETH but still almost 10k ETH short from next milestone even it looking hard to achieve this in remaining days but we have good hope it will go around this amount before end of ICO.
Achieved the hardcap or not doesn't mean a lot to the project, But the actual thing that this already become the successful project, i just curious how the developer will try to develop the platform.
I just wanna see the crowdsale will end soon.

Right, since the current funding progress is not jumping a lot, it seems 50k ETH will be finally raised, more ETH could be very difficult, but it is possible. I hope we get the tokens soon.
50K ETH is over 16 million dollars and that is at the rate where bitcoin is increasing, ETH hasn't pump yet and this could be a great amount already when that will happen. There are still time so I think it's still possible to reach that 60K target, as long as the team will continue to community with their update that would make sure feel safe. Congratulations in advance to those who invested on Change.
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