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6701  Economy / Speculation / Re: Will 2017/2018 Bullrun repeat in 2021? on: October 21, 2020, 03:37:59 AM
I am very excited to see the outcome if history will repeat itself, I was still a newbie on the last all time high and has no decent portfolio back then, I gained experienced now and holding a lot of good coins in my portfolio and this next bull run will give a dramatic change in my life not to mention I am in a campaign where I'm getting Bitcoin payout, I'm sure many of us here are as excited as I am.

Many people predicted that history would repeat itself, and perhaps, we will see a new ATH in the next bull run. We always hope that when the bull run comes, the price can start the rally and jump to the new highest price.

That is good if you have many good coins in your portfolio, but that will not guarantee if your coins will get the time to increase when the bull run comes. It is still difficult to know which coin will increase later because every coin will have the same opportunity to start the rally. We can only prepare by buying the coin that we predict it has a chance to increase, so we need to analyze more to find that coin.
6702  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What's in the game, after all? on: October 21, 2020, 02:37:05 AM
Some says they gamble for stress reliever and they want to have some fun. And some they do gamble because they want to win big and earn money. As of me i do gamble because i want to win and i want to earn money. Gamble is the most way to get money easily if you gonna win. So game in gamble is for fun and earn money.

That is why people are playing gambling for the first time, but after they found the fun thing in playing gambling, they try to play other gambling games. Sooner or later, they become addicted to gambling, making it difficult to stop their new habit. If they don't ask for help from other people, they will not have a chance to stop gambling, and they will become heavily addicted to gambling.

But I don't think that gambling is the most way to get money easily because many people lose their money at the gambling table. So if they want to use gambling to make money, they need to think twice before they really decide.
6703  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling thoughts. on: October 21, 2020, 01:30:26 AM
This is mine:
5. Reckless spending will cause a big problem, always manage to spend your money.

OP, you have to understand that it's not that simple to manage your money once you involved in gambling.

It was common advice but how come even professional gamblers still can't follow?

Would be better if gamblers will experience a big problem so that they will understand the feeling and will try to avoid it in the future.

That is right. It needs the experience to manage the money that will be used for gambling. Not all people realize how much money they should use to gamble, but they try to put another money from their balance to continue gamble. I think that is the common problem that every gambler faces, not just a pro gambler.

If the gambler can solve the big problem, that can make them wise to decide related to the gambling games, and they will know what needs to do if they got something in the gambling games.
6704  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What do think about skill games? on: October 21, 2020, 12:30:44 AM
~snip~

Yep,,, I always see the same few names play in poker if I enter, so it is very clear that those with a bit of skill can beat the average population and make their games +EV (by taking other player pots early and taking tournament prize cash). I wish I was as good in such card games but I know my place:) No skill means gamble just for fun;)

You can have good skills in card games if you learn more about that games Grin
That is a requirement to be a good poker player and the other card games. But you can just gamble for fun without learning if you don't want to learn.
Perhaps, to learn poker game needs a passion for searching for many lessons, so we only see the same few names play in poker because people think that poker is one gambling game that needs skills to play.

~snip~

Apart from having adequate skills, a gambler should also have mental toughness. Good skills without having mental toughness will make their steps less consistent, but if they have mental toughness so they can play consistently, calm in every situation, and wouldn't make many mistakes that could cause them to lose.

Without having mental toughness, that player can get a bluff from other players, and he can't manage his emotion or think how to get rid of the other player's trick. Having skills, calm in every situation will be needed in poker games and other gambling games base on skills. Instead, getting bluff from other players will not make him give up, but that is a challenge for him to defend his position.
6705  Economy / Speculation / Re: Will 2017/2018 Bullrun repeat in 2021? on: October 20, 2020, 05:32:18 AM
I tend to say that it is a little bull run because every time the price increases, the price will be back to the lower price in the next hour or day, and that is happening in many times. It is a good moment for us to buy and sell, but we need to analyze deeper to find the best time to enter the market. We don't know when the price will touch the lowest price before it bounces up again. But we can just buy bitcoin at the price that we think is the low price, and then we can hold it for a while. After that moment, the bitcoin price will be going up slowly to the high price, and who knows, by doing that, we will have a chance to see the price touch the highest price.

I am not sure if this situation will be one indicator for the whales to play with the market, but I know that if we can use this time for our benefits, we will make a profit. But if you are afraid to see the price up to and down, it is better not to trade and only see what will happen to the market.
6706  Economy / Economics / Re: The Real Situation :( on: October 20, 2020, 04:32:57 AM
I think you don't have to panic or have negative thinking about the situations because every government will not let the worst thing happen. They will try their best and do what they can to solve every problem, including the Covid-19, the economy, and other things. We need to support the government by always protect ourselves with everything that will be necessary to do. The situations will not go better if people do not help the government, and they tend to do whatever they want without think twice about the risk. 2020 is a bad year for all countries, but don't forget, we still have a better life in the future, so we need to survive and struggle for our lives. Everything will be okay, and the crisis in all countries will end soon, but we need to do our best to support the government. Together, we can do that Wink
6707  Economy / Economics / Re: Government slowly open the economy, will it make the pandemic worst? on: October 20, 2020, 03:26:17 AM
The government can re-open the economy, but they need to warn people who will re-opening their businesses to follow every health protocol. If they don't follow, the government can force that place to close it. If the business owner doesn't follow the health protocols, that can make the pandemic worse. Even it will be worse than the last few months because that can attract many people to get an infection. We risk getting infected by Covid-19 because we don't know who the carrier is or people without symptoms, which can be dangerous to other people.

The government needs to get an income from the business sector, and people need money to continue to survive. If people can still be careful and always have health protocols, that can help people prevent the infection.
there are areas where the protocol is much more relaxed compare from the last 3 months all do the virus still there but the good thing is we already learn how to adopt having it , and we already know how to protect our self right now It will help many people to continue their lives and survive in this survival time.

Even if there is a place or area which do not have strict health protocols, it doesn't mean that we don't have to be careful because we don't know where the virus will come from. No matter where we come from, we need to follow the health protocols, at least, for ourselves, so we can prevent the virus spreads to us.

So if we are in the crowd or the local store or malls, we know how to protect ourselves and our family, which can help the government reduce the number of infections in the crowd. We must do many things when we are in a crowd or the store with many people in one big room.

But it is good for the government to re-open the economy by giving a chance to the business owner to start their business again. That can provide a new way for the economy to grow in this pandemic slowly.

We have to risk even there is no assurance of our safety. We might not get caught by covid 19 but we may die because of famine. Many people are struggles to do their daily life because of lockdown. We can't always depend in our government because some of them are corrupt officials. This lockdown is only good for rich and middle class people who can live even without a job for a couple of months, but what happens to the poor? We always struggle to find food even there is no pandemic, what more when there it was?

As long as we can be careful in the crowd, I am sure we will be okay while we can still do what we want in that place. The government is still trying to warn the people in the crowd. They also permit the store to re-open their store because that means the economy in that city or country can start again. All people will still try to continue to survive in many ways, and I am sure they can do that.
6708  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What do think about skill games? on: October 20, 2020, 02:23:40 AM
I don't know why many people don't like slot game this time around just because the game required luck not experience to win.
That's why I prefer skill game because it hard for someone to miss the bet for the match. I think skill game have this potential of making good money without more stress.

Those who possess good skills for the games where the skills are helpful in making you win those one will continue to love the skills games than luck. Since not all of them can have the fine skill to win the games so may would be dependent on the luck as well, though luck is important for any game but not every game can be won by pure luck. Some games like blackjack, poker etc are the ones where your skill and experience also counts.


A gambler who has skills will make blackjack, poker, or other card games as their favorite gambling games because they can use their skills to beat the opponent. They will prefer to play the gambling games base on the skills than to use the base of the game on the luck because they think that they will have a chance to win if they play the games that base on the skills.

Perhaps, they can play gambling games based on the luck for some other time to see if they have other luck on those games or not. Skill games really need more time to learn and understand the games, and if you do not have time to learn, then perhaps, the luck games will be the games for you to play.
6709  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling License on: October 20, 2020, 01:19:16 AM
I think reputation matters but it was not easily be given to anyone they should show first it to the community and only time could tell, some of the most of the reputable gambling sites doesn't have license but we know that they are trusted since through time they proven themselves but of course at first it would be hard for them to attract players and encourage to trust them.

What you are saying is true, for gambling sites to get a good reputation it takes time to prove it. Of course all gambling sites for the first time
must have difficulty attracting users attention and gaining users trust. So in my opinion, just run gambling sites well and do promotions, then
it will get users by itself. If users are satisfied, they will continue to play, even if the gambling sites don't have a license.

Perhaps, having a license can make the casino have legality, so people will see that besides the casino is a recommended casino to play gambling, that casino also has a license to run a gambling business. That can make the casino the top-notch of gambling websites, and I am sure that they will invite many more people to visit and play gambling.

Get the reputations will not be easy because the casino needs to make their customer satisfaction with their services. The casino needs to have a 24/7 support system that will always stand by to help the members. If they have problems, they can fix it quickly, so the members will not feel disturbed when they play gambling.
6710  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling thoughts. on: October 20, 2020, 12:18:25 AM
Do you ever asked yourselves these things?
I never asked myself about those things. If I want to gamble, I just visit the site, deposit some money if necessary, play for some rounds, and move to the other games. If I think that is enough to playing gambling, I will stop and leave the site without thinking about how much money I already lose or win. I will come back again to the gambling site in the next few days if I want.

1. Which one do you prefer, Casino gambling or online gambling?
I prefer to play gambling on online gambling.

2. How much money are you willing to spend on gambling?
Less than $10-$50.

3. How do you manage your lose streak or win streak?
No matter the result, I will stop gambling as soon as possible if I got a streak.

4. If you will have $1000, what game in the casino you are going to play?
First, I don't use $1000 for gambling. Perhaps, I will only use $50 for the biggest money to gamble.

5. What is the best advice that you can give to a gambler?
Have a discipline, limit your money, and control yourself.

6711  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: I Don't undestood why not use funds to earn stable profit on: October 19, 2020, 05:57:04 AM
Why newbies who Don't know how to trade not invest in funds who trade now its very popular.
Instead of risking yourself?
Many investors now invest in funds who trade and pay  daily Weekly Monthly yearly Roi of investment. 

It is too risky to give or invest your funds to people who trade because the market is not moving stably. We don't know how good their trading skills, how they can make a profit from trading, so that can make us worried. But many of them invest in people who join in the trading groups, and they expect to have a nice profit. Just be careful if you decide to give your money to the trader, and make sure that you can get the right person to trade your funds.

Its best way to make your income good!
Coz there is so many good traders who can trade good profits and they also have good whale inside informations about whale movements and new coins announcements!

For newbies its great way

I prefer to trade by myself, and although I don't have good trading skills, I want to learn more to find out how to analyze better. I don't mind losing some money in trading because that can help me learn more better. I know that trading can't give me an instant profit because the market will always fluctuate, and that is why I still decide to trade some money and make a profit while I can.
6712  Economy / Economics / Re: Government slowly open the economy, will it make the pandemic worst? on: October 19, 2020, 04:33:14 AM
The government can re-open the economy, but they need to warn people who will re-opening their businesses to follow every health protocol. If they don't follow, the government can force that place to close it. If the business owner doesn't follow the health protocols, that can make the pandemic worse. Even it will be worse than the last few months because that can attract many people to get an infection. We risk getting infected by Covid-19 because we don't know who the carrier is or people without symptoms, which can be dangerous to other people.

The government needs to get an income from the business sector, and people need money to continue to survive. If people can still be careful and always have health protocols, that can help people prevent the infection.
6713  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin used for illegal activities on telegram on: October 19, 2020, 03:21:29 AM
~snip~
Pretty crazy thing that Telegram does not do anything about this prevalence in scam. If I were the owner of Telegram and all that is associated with my application is that it is a cesspool of scam, it would spur me into a campaign in preventing the proliferation of scams and eventually annihilation of this scams in my platform. I do not have that much legal knowledge but I think they can be prosecuted for being negligent when it comes to scams on the platform.

I am sure Telegram is neutral, but Telegram is not responsible for every user will do. But Telegram can ban that person if he abuses the rules. But I am sure that a person can find the other way to use Telegram and scam other people. It is not easy to manage the platform, which has a thousand people who use the apps. So we need to be careful with ourselves if we join groups in the Telegram, and always avoid talking or chatting with people we don't know.

But still, we see many case in Telegram that has been used for illegal activities, and perhaps, if we join in one or more groups, we will get interesting offers that allow us to make a big profit in a short time.

I am not surprised if someone says Bitcoin is widely used by illegal activities on the telegram platform, because indeed the number of
victims who were deceived on telegram was very large. Usually scammers invite investments that promise double profit or scammers
use Ponzi schemes to deceive their victims, by promising great rewards. Many newbie are deceived by rewards to be good to be true,
maybe from the beginning many newbies misunderstood that Bitcoin could make money instantly. Why do scammers use telegram to
do illegal activities, because most of the crypto community and crypto projects use telegram for communication media.

So that is what bitcoin will get if many people get scam from Telegram, and we are difficult to find that scammers. People out there will think that the Telegram will only to be used for illegal activities as they see many cryptos projects scam people.
6714  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling License on: October 19, 2020, 02:15:14 AM
I've come to conclusion based on the comments on this thread that honest players who are high rollers would prefer licensed AND reputable casinos.

Those who play casually and bet small wouldn't care about license as long as it has good reputation. They're not going to lose big anyway even if the casino is suddenly seized by the authorities.

Just like me actually, I don't bet a huge amount of money so if the site will do an exit scam, that's it, just end of the site but I will never get affected a lot as I only put a certain amount where I can afford to let go. The reality is, we are in crypto, even the license casinos can go dark and even if you know them since they are license, question is, would you sue them for just a small amount of money that they scam from you?

That would not be a problem for us if the site finally scams us because we don't use huge money to gamble. We can accept the risk of scamming because we only search for entertainment in gambling games. Perhaps the gambling owner can ask for help from people in the dark market to solve their problem to have a license because many things can buy and sell in that market. No one will know what will happen to that gambling site, whether they have licensed or not, they are reputable gambling sites or not. But we can prevent scamming by always be careful to select the gambling site and don't use a huge amount of money to gamble.
6715  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you read the TOS of a gambling site? Honest answer please. on: October 19, 2020, 01:12:31 AM
I think only I'm who just lazy to read the TOS of a gambling site, It turns out that seeing the poll results more people who don't read
the TOS when joining the Gambling Site. Maybe there are many people today when choosing gambling based on reviews of gambling sites,
and sometimes the things we want to know about gambling sites are already in these reviews. So many people think they don't need to
read TOS anymore when joining gambling sites.

No, I think you are not alone because I think many people do the same as you. If people can read the reviews from here or search more about the gambling site, I think they will know what is necessary, and they will know how to avoid breaking the rule in that gambling site. If they can find the reviews from other members here, they can skip reading all of the TOS, and they will know the point. But it is better to read the TOS if we have time to read it, so we know more details about the rules on that gambling website.
6716  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: New Normal Game Setup - a success or a failure? on: October 19, 2020, 12:11:24 AM
~snip~

Still there must be a limit to the players and every visitor in traditional casinos so that the prevention of the spread of this virus is not that significant. I know the government is now aggressively trying to prevent even the crowd from being dispersed so that no one gets infected, but is it true that all traditional casinos are re-opening? Will people go there or stay with online casinos? there are 2 options where it is best to avoid the corona virus.

I am sure the casino implements the social distancing protocols because they know how dangerous the virus to people in a crowd. I don't know if all traditional casinos are re-opening, but perhaps not all casinos because that will depend on the funds that each owner has because these situations are really hard for them. The casino already closes for more than 3 months, and we don't know how much money the owner loses. If the casino owner still has backup funds, and they want to re-opening their place, that means they will have a chance to make money. People will have their way to gamble, whether it's on the online casino or traditional casino. They can choose whatever they want, and I am sure they will always try to protect themselves.
6717  Economy / Exchanges / Re: All Exchangers scamming now on: October 18, 2020, 06:03:45 AM
I still believe the exchanges are not scamming us because we can still make a profit from trading. Perhaps you have the worst experience of trading in the unknown exchanges or doing something bad in the exchanges. As long as you don't trade in the unknown exchanges and stay away from them, I am sure you will not get bad things with your funds.

You should only use recommended exchanges to trade, so you don't have any problem, and make sure you follow all of their rules to avoid the problems. Or perhaps, you can tell us which exchanges that scam you so that we can help you to find the solutions.
6718  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin used for illegal activities on telegram on: October 18, 2020, 05:03:21 AM
The telegram has been used for illegal activity because many crypto projects have been ending with the scam of the people at telegram. I am not surprised by that news because people can invite other people easily. People can automatically join their channel so that the scammers can offer a nice offering to people who don't know much about crypto.

I think the reason why the scammer use telegram as their way to scam people is because they don't have to use their real telephone number to register their account in the telegram. They can use the disposable number which they can find on the internet, and they can easily have a new telegram account. We can only be careful if we receive a message from people we don't know.
6719  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin and Covid 19 on: October 18, 2020, 03:52:59 AM
~snip~

You can't advice this to everyone, specially to newbies who haven't heard of bitcoin before. I personally believe that even though I'm into bitcoin, it is not appropriate to encourage my friends who lost their job to get in here during the pandemic. They need a stable job during these times, and it's dangerous to promise them earnings here. I would gladly help them if the money they would use isn't needed by next week or by next few months. Cause when they needed the money as soon as possible, then they will lose instead of gaining from it.


No, I can't, and you can't too. It needs the will to learn about bitcoin to open their mind about a new thing. So far, it really hard to open their mind to accept something, especially a new thing, because they don't want to know anything than what they did before.

Yes, those people need a stable job during the pandemic to have money because they need money to buy their daily needs right now. Perhaps, after they have a stable income from their jobs, they will think about getting more money. At that time, they will search for a new opportunity to earn more money.
6720  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Proof of pure luck on: October 18, 2020, 02:46:48 AM
~snip~
What you have said mate is right. When you play gambling you need a lot of patience, faith and luck to win the game because you can't win always and there are times that you will also experience loses. This is one of the reasons why I don't see gambling as a part time job or job itself because you can't always win and your lucky day doesn't occurs frequently so you have to take the risk always in order to test your luck.

I agree with you. It is better to use gambling as one of the entertainment, which can give us a fun thing than trying to use gambling as a part-time job because that will be difficult. No matter how much money we use, if we don't have luck, and we will not know when the luck will come, we will not win the games easily. Besides that, the risk of losing all money will always big as we don't know how big our chance to win.

If we already test our luck and can't win on the games, perhaps, it is better to stop gambling for a while and leave the place. We can try to play other gambling games the next day to test our luck again.
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