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October 19, 2020, 04:33:14 AM |
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The government can re-open the economy, but they need to warn people who will re-opening their businesses to follow every health protocol. If they don't follow, the government can force that place to close it. If the business owner doesn't follow the health protocols, that can make the pandemic worse. Even it will be worse than the last few months because that can attract many people to get an infection. We risk getting infected by Covid-19 because we don't know who the carrier is or people without symptoms, which can be dangerous to other people.
The government needs to get an income from the business sector, and people need money to continue to survive. If people can still be careful and always have health protocols, that can help people prevent the infection.
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October 19, 2020, 04:48:55 AM |
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Im afraid of having a second wave of this virus. The government is less strict now when implementing the rules and health protocols. Therefore many stubborn people are acting freely as if there's no virus existing anymore.
Here in our place many people have no discipline and already forgot the social distancing just because of the lifted strict rules. Its good that some companies/businesses are re-opening so we can return back to work but im also concern for what might happen in next few days/months. I dont think we can move on with the virus if people are acting this way. The cooperation of everyone is really needed because even the economy is slowly getting better, it will become useless if the government impose another lockdown due to increasing number once again of infected.
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October 19, 2020, 05:27:50 AM |
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Im afraid of having a second wave of this virus. The government is less strict now when implementing the rules and health protocols. Therefore many stubborn people are acting freely as if there's no virus existing anymore.
Here in our place many people have no discipline and already forgot the social distancing just because of the lifted strict rules. Its good that some companies/businesses are re-opening so we can return back to work but im also concern for what might happen in next few days/months. I dont think we can move on with the virus if people are acting this way. The cooperation of everyone is really needed because even the economy is slowly getting better, it will become useless if the government impose another lockdown due to increasing number once again of infected.
The governments have done all that they could. Now it is up to the citizens. There will be people who behave in a reckless manner, by disregarding social distancing norms and other precautionary measures. The only way to protect yourself is to keep a safe distance from such individuals. We all need to adjust ourselves, as this virus is not going to go away anytime soon. We need to get on with our daily routine, while taking the necessary precautions.
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October 19, 2020, 06:44:55 AM |
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"Sex social workers"?!?Do you live in Thailand? ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Yes,of course that opening the economy will make the pandemic worse,but this is inevitable. I don't think that the lockdowns and quarantines were very efficient in some countries.Most of the people just don't follow the rules and do what they want. It's all about finding the balance between keeping a big part of the economy safe,while keeping the pandemic under control.That would be very difficult and it will require tremendous amount of efforts,but there's no easy and simple solution.
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October 19, 2020, 06:58:32 AM |
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"Sex social workers"?!?Do you live in Thailand? ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Yes,of course that opening the economy will make the pandemic worse,but this is inevitable. I don't think that the lockdowns and quarantines were very efficient in some countries.Most of the people just don't follow the rules and do what they want. It's all about finding the balance between keeping a big part of the economy safe,while keeping the pandemic under control.That would be very difficult and it will require tremendous amount of efforts,but there's no easy and simple solution. I believe the OP is from Philippines. Why do you believe that sex workers exist only in Thailand? A lot of people flock to Thailand in search of sex workers, because the system is semi-legal there (still not 100% legal). Researchers claim that this is the oldest profession and yet most of the countries don't want to legalize or regulate it. In the end, it causes the industry to be pushed underground, in to the hands of various criminal gangs and mafias.
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October 19, 2020, 07:33:58 AM |
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I believe the news now is that health authorities in Sweden are poised to start introducing local lockdowns to stop a surge in new cases, although these will not be legally enforceable. It will be interesting to watch how they will do it considering they were one of the few countries avoiding any form of closing. https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/sweden-to-start-lockdowns-worlds-22864690
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October 19, 2020, 07:58:37 AM |
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The question is that are we really going to improve the economy?
Or make covid19 transmission worst of their decision?
In my opinion opening the economy even further right now will just increase the corona cases very fast. The problem we are facing right now is the second wave of the pandemic. In Europe for example every country is reporting rising corona cases and we can't really open the economy anymore. On the otherside we also can't have another lockdown this year. All the countries here are experiencing negative growth in GDP. We just can't afford another closing down of the economy. It's very hard to balance off human lifes vs the economy, but we need to find a mix.
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October 19, 2020, 08:16:24 AM |
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If regulations and restrictions are strict enough, a country can raise their economy back to normal without being contaminated by the virus. However, it is a hard process, especially most of the country still have many victims. My government have done a great job keeping the society from the infection. Therefore, currently, our economy is meliorated. There is still a risk of being affected again and quarantine is necessary in order to keep the virus low, but we are joyful with the contemporary situation.
It is kinda both sides of a coin. Risks and chances are both existed while opening back firms. The government will have the highest responsible for everything. If your leaders are good, your country will definitely rise
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October 19, 2020, 08:34:38 AM |
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I think opening of the economy is really needed. Now, I'm all for preventing the spread of virus, but closing the economy for so long will do more harm than good! Many has lost their jobs. Only for a virus if they close entire economy for indefinite period of time, more people would die without income than due to the virus. And I believe, herd immunity is also very much needed to contain the virus. We can't lock ourselves up for so long and pray a vaccine or a miracle will come to eradicate the virus. We have to live with it!
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October 19, 2020, 09:30:21 AM |
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The question is that are we really going to improve the economy?
Or make covid19 transmission worst of their decision?
In my opinion opening the economy even further right now will just increase the corona cases very fast. The problem we are facing right now is the second wave of the pandemic. In Europe for example every country is reporting rising corona cases and we can't really open the economy anymore. On the otherside we also can't have another lockdown this year. All the countries here are experiencing negative growth in GDP. We just can't afford another closing down of the economy. It's very hard to balance off human lifes vs the economy, but we need to find a mix. Opening of the economy will indeed increase the number of cases of the corona but there is no other choice but to save the economy than keeping everyone inside their houses. This is the only solution since even if people will be ordered to stay on their home, they will only suffer from hunger and might die due to that reason.
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October 19, 2020, 12:40:55 PM |
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I think opening of the economy is really needed. Now, I'm all for preventing the spread of virus, but closing the economy for so long will do more harm than good! Many has lost their jobs. Only for a virus if they close entire economy for indefinite period of time, more people would die without income than due to the virus. And I believe, herd immunity is also very much needed to contain the virus. We can't lock ourselves up for so long and pray a vaccine or a miracle will come to eradicate the virus. We have to live with it!
Indeed. Opening the economy will finish a country's problem during the pandemic because people will get back to their jobs, and productivity will continue. If they didn't open the economy and get people back to their jobs, the economy would definitely continue to fall, that many people will suffer. But employees and other people who use public transportation should still be careful because the virus is continuously spreading.
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October 19, 2020, 12:58:14 PM |
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The government has no choice but to gradually open establishments and public transportation, because many people are already hungry because of the lockdown duration, and it has been half a year since people have been unemployed.The government cannot support all our needs and they cannot let people starve to death. Nevertheless, every one should have a self discipline to protect themselves from getting infected of virus
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October 19, 2020, 01:27:38 PM |
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The world's economies have been hit hard by the epidemic so the governments of each country are slowly opening up everything to improve their economies and work to increase health. If one does not adhere to the security measures the epidemic will take a worse shape which can take a terrible form from the beginning. The biggest solution is to keep the social distance market until the vaccine is available. Personal protection of employees is being given priority in the office-court during coronation these costs are being added to the economy of staying well.
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October 19, 2020, 02:15:40 PM |
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Understanding the importance of observing the minimum health requirement protocol is very important. Now that the community quarantine are at ease we are now heading to open up the economy. This can be a trial and error from the leaders that are showing. If not then they have good reason why they slowly open the economy back. I am not against this move but at least they will make sure that community needs to follow the protocol and will imposed sanctions to those who will not going to follow the mandate of the government. So?
The question is that are we really going to improve the economy?
Or make covid19 transmission worst of their decision?
From the photos, I conclude that in this particular case it may be Asia, I must admit that I am not familiar with the situation in that part of the world with COVID-19. What is currently happening in Europe is an incredibly strong start of the second wave which is very likely largely the result of very mild measures that were in place during the summer when the virus had a rather weak effect but indisputably infected an incredible number of people. With the arrival of colder weather, the virus strengthens and spreads with incredible speed, and the consequences are much more severe (many more people need medical care and many more dies). Some people call this a calculated risk, because they believe that the damage will be much greater (economically) if strict measures are in place (which is true), and on the other hand accept that returning to normal will mean the spread of the virus among the population. On the example of the EU, we can see what is currently happening, the incredible numbers of infected, already heavily burdened health systems and rethinking of lockdown again. There is no ideal solution here, you live as much as normal for 3 months, and then it comes back to you like a boomerang and throws you back into the harsh reality.
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October 19, 2020, 02:35:35 PM |
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Most countries need to slowly open their economy to survive. We all know that the economic situation got worse because of the pandemic so the government is trying to recover from it that they're even taking all the risks. Things will still depend on how people will keep themselves safe by taking the precautionary measures seriously and continuously because facing the second wave isn't impossible since most of us could get exposed to the virus. It's how we discipline ourselves after all.
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October 19, 2020, 03:46:32 PM |
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The government can re-open the economy, but they need to warn people who will re-opening their businesses to follow every health protocol. If they don't follow, the government can force that place to close it. If the business owner doesn't follow the health protocols, that can make the pandemic worse. Even it will be worse than the last few months because that can attract many people to get an infection. We risk getting infected by Covid-19 because we don't know who the carrier is or people without symptoms, which can be dangerous to other people.
The government needs to get an income from the business sector, and people need money to continue to survive. If people can still be careful and always have health protocols, that can help people prevent the infection.
there are areas where the protocol is much more relaxed compare from the last 3 months all do the virus still there but the good thing is we already learn how to adopt having it , and we already know how to protect our self right now It will help many people to continue their lives and survive in this survival time.
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October 19, 2020, 03:56:03 PM |
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Somehow, the government will have to strike a balance between taking care of the health of its people at the same time keeping the economy afloat. Both are of great importance.
So far, I see that the government in my country is quite good at dealing with the economic problem of people affected by Covid. Many fund are channeled in the form of assistance to communities and can help at least a fraction of their need each month. The implementation of health protocol has also continued to be pursued properly through socialization and banner that are spread almost at every intersection. People can do activities as usual without forgetting health protocol. It looks good because people can make end meet by working. I don't think the second wave will happen because of this. But you know, in our place, people no longer believe that Covid-19 is a very dangerous and life-threatening disease. The main reason for this section is that there are too many cases of manipulation of the diagnosis by certain individuals to their patient. I think nearly 50% more of the patient who die are infected with coivid even though these patient died in an accident. I don't know why this happened, and today many people refuse to go to the hospital without any urgency.
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October 19, 2020, 04:15:23 PM |
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I want to discuss you guys about the recent happening that takes in our place. Pandemic really had been a problem that frustrates all especially to the worker that has a scheme of no work no pay policy. The lock down had made of some establishment to close temporarily except for those that offer essential products. This means that there are many employee now are getting hungry due to no work no pay policy and they all depend on the government financial support. It made worst when rumors says that the financial support had not reach to them or just being kept by the local officials for their own interest. As the government trying to improve the economy here in our place, It decided to lift the lock down and impose more relaxed quarantine protocols. This now allow other establishment to open. Yes, many are happy about it and that they can go back to work to earn money to buy for the basic needs expenses and that even includes some medications and maintenance for some health conditions. As seen in the public areas the number of crowd has been arising especially during rush hour like in the public market, malls and other crowded areas. The transportation are now slowly going back to normal just with those materials and other health protocols mandated by the government in the transportation to prevent the spread of the covid19. So, in the process there are many problems that has been observed and hopefully will be notice to imposed the rules and regulations to stop or minimize the spread of covid19 virus. So far this has been a problem I observe.First Public Land Transportation problem* The use of fiat currency to pay the public transportation like coins which is metal and high rate of virus to stay longer in that objects. Paper money also could be a medium of transmission for covid19. * The distance of provided seats between the commuters does not meet the observance of social distancing protocol. * Covid19 is airborne and some buses especially the aircon bus had no proper ventilation and air flows just go round and round inside the buses. * Contact tracing sheets were not strictly observed and done * Some commuters not wearing face mask properly. Second, Small Businesses are operating even without securing permits. * Automated Tubig Machine (ATM) - Coin operated water dispenser are visible everywhere and are operating and people tend to use it due to its cheaper price compared to bottled water. * Some resorts are also open despite of no securing permit from agencies concern regarding in the implementation of the minimum health standard protocols. * Fitness gymnasium are also open and more easily for virus to transmit due to the fact that the equipment are there and that anyone could use it. * Bars are discreetly open usually those establishment that are far from the reach of the concern authorities even if they know that it is not allowed for them. * Buwangan, or cock fighting are now being endorse by the authority to open. Probably the officials sitting in the position heading the authority were likely missed visiting cockpit or arena. Third, The Public Market* the capacity of public market does not compensate the number of vendors plus the people that went to market especially rush hours. Social distancing is not really observe. * Still fiat currency is being use as a medium of exchange and this is not really ideal for now with pandemic. * Vendors not properly wearing face mask and face mask are not prescribe usually are just made a piece of cloth. * Disinfection does not observe in the market at the end of the day. Fourth, Sex social workers still rampant and was not contained. After a long working days usually we had to find our stress reliever and this open the doors for the sex worker to offer their service for pleasure and fun. * Gays, Female, Male are discreetly offering their service and still operate through online transaction then meet up for deal to take place. * Spa and massage with extra service offer they tend to attempt in making you go for sex and eventually they will ask for it in return to increase the pay for the extra service. * Beerhouse usually has GRO but they too are sex workers. Some of them are teens or are minors. Fifth, Online businesses had been also a way through transmission of Covid19.* Barter community had been violating the government mandate especially during the lock down or quarantine days. * Online shoppe become rampant and are also violating the rules of community quarantine. Understanding the importance of observing the minimum health requirement protocol is very important. Now that the community quarantine are at ease we are now heading to open up the economy. This can be a trial and error from the leaders that are showing. If not then they have good reason why they slowly open the economy back. I am not against this move but at least they will make sure that community needs to follow the protocol and will imposed sanctions to those who will not going to follow the mandate of the government. So? The question is that are we really going to improve the economy?
Or make covid19 transmission worst of their decision?Edit: Pics for attention only CTTOReference: Google pictures Well, you know what they say about that country, "Its more fun in the Ph*". Of course it will worsen the pandemic as long as people has no discipline with following the strict protocol regarding health guidelines. The government has a poor response because all they are saying is to wait for the vaccine WHICH WILL TAKE A LONG AMOUNT OF TIME TO PRODUCE since it will undergo testing procedures. The government can improve its economy once it make critical decisions regarding big companies to pitch in and government politicians will stop being corrupt.
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October 19, 2020, 04:18:14 PM |
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Indeed, the opening of the economic route has been going on since the existence of regulations on health protocols, and some countries have even continued to promote their tourism. Therefore, before I have said about the world needing to restore the economy or they continue to shut themselves at home, these two factors are something that will continue to be considered because the economy is time to be restored so it's no wonder, when many sports and other things start working again like usually and one of the only differences at this time is about getting used to new habits such as maintaining the covid-19 protocol such as maintaining distance, wearing masks, washing hands but still, a rule is just a rule because there are still many people who don't pay attention to this new habit.
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Omicron is another FUD
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October 19, 2020, 04:21:13 PM Last edit: October 19, 2020, 05:21:52 PM by Chrystora123 |
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We are all now faced with a choice; - stay at home and die slowly due to economic paralysis, or
- keep doing economic activities as usual and live side by side with this "PANDEMIC"
In this case the government has done a good job by opening "LOCKDOWN" and starting to stimulate economic activity. Certainty about the vaccine is still "gray", but we can not wait long. We must dare to take risks and follow health protocols everywhere while outdoor..
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