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6741  Economy / Gambling / Re: What is money line?? on: May 28, 2015, 04:40:57 PM
DId the football bet say under 0.75 ? Because that is same as 0.5 ,and shouldn't be listed. 

No it is not the same. If you bet on either over 0.5 or over 0.75 and the score is 1 goal then both beth is indeed a winning bet, the difference will be on the payout of the match.

You will receive 100 % of you winning depending on the odds if you choose over 0.5 goals and if there is 1 goal but with over 0.75 goals, it means that you will receive only 1/2 of your winning depending on the odds if there is only 1 goal and you need 2 goals to get 100 % of it

i.e Manchester United 1 : 0 Chelsea

Bet on over 0.5 goals with the odds of 1.02 then you will get the entire winning of 1.02
Bet with over 0.75 goals with the odds of 1.07 then you will only get winning odds of 1.035 (half of it)


P.S : the same concept as asian handicap

6742  Economy / Gambling / Re: What is money line?? on: May 28, 2015, 04:30:32 PM
what is meaning of 1st half money line in basket ball??
what is first half under 1 , 0.75 ,0.5 in football??

please explain me..dont give me links of sites to refer just explain in easy way..
thank you..

In easy way, Moneyline betting is similar to match odds betting which means you bet on who will be the winner of the match.
1st half in basketball means 1st and 2nd quarter so 1st half moneyline is the 1st and 2nd quarter score combined to see who is the winner

In footballl, Over and under means the number of goals in the match which is 90 minutes plus injury time. So first half under X means the first 45 minutes+ injury time goal


P.S : this is the simplest way to explain this thing, it is not actually hard to understand some links in google if you tried though
6743  Other / Archival / Re: Updated Overview of Bitcointalk Signature-Ad Campaigns on: May 28, 2015, 04:00:14 PM
And why crypto-MMM is not listed?

Actually it is unnecessary to list them as they are ponzi and might "dissapear" soon so I dont think it worth Mitchell's time to put them on the list and take them out after they decided to "dissapear".
Plus that some people are against in promoting ponzis (Im one of it), having them on the list is actually make people aware of it and more people might decided to jump in their campaign
6744  Economy / Gambling / Re: BetterBets.io - Bitcoin Casino ★Unique Luck Forging★ Powered by Moneypot.com on: May 28, 2015, 03:19:41 PM


I have been having this issue since the last 10 hours or so. I thought the problem would be because of my seedhash so I tried to change my seed hash but there is some error/bug there

It wont let me change my seed hash. I did input random number/words there and save it but after clicked save, the site automatically reload but my seedhash stayed the same . Even with the random generator button and saved it, the seedhash stayed the same and the site wont let me roll and it keeps showing

Code:
INVALID HASH

P.S : cant either play the horse race as well
6745  Economy / Economics / Re: Is it better to save money or invest it? on: May 27, 2015, 07:24:18 PM
Every investment have a high risk.

Not every investments IMO. Safe deposits is also a form of investment and it is low risk especially if the bank is backed out by the government. It seems like you are assuming that every investment is indeed a HYIP by the tone that you judge that every investment are always high risk

Investments are always risky

Risky yes, high risk not always

Invest most of it but into several potentially profitable projects. Save 20%.

Diversify your principal between saving and investing is indeed a right way to do it but rather than investing into several "investment" , it will be better if people put it into one solid "investment" of his own choice. In this case , deposits could be an option, safe and easy with just a signature on a piece of paper.

P.S: BTC itself is a form of investment as well if you believe it long term strategy  Wink

But if you put all your money or solid your money in just one investment and if that investment was failed you don't have left any money, so that its better to diversify your money or make business that make you earn money and can take over the loss in your investment.

Depending on how risky it is I would say, if you could find one solid investment, in this case it is better to diversify less rather than diversify more into more bogus investment. Sadly most people are always tempted to put in all of their saving in "investment" and will always try to find more bogus investment that give nonsense interest rate. Nonetheless, human greed, the feeling of wanting more and more.
6746  Economy / Gambling / Re: SafeDice.com ★ Bitcoin Dice ★ Low 0.5% Edge ★ Referral ★ Fast Cashout ★ Fair on: May 27, 2015, 07:06:34 PM
hi, would you consider to add more other altcoins in your site, such as nxt?
Thanks
Well, technically it is possible to add more coin, but I'd rather focus on few coins to provide the best support for players. That being said, we don't have plan to add more coin for now, but it is possible in the future if there's good reason or potential wager from the additional alt coin.
but wouldnt you attract bigger variety of players what would lead to getting bigger profit for you?

It does not always mean that if you provided a lot of selection of altcoins to play with then you will be able to get a higher amount of players playing. Most people are only attracted to severals coins like clams,doge, dash and XMR so it is best for Safedice to focus on XMR for now

Technically this could be a waste a resources if SafeDice decided to provide alot of altcoins for now, If they would to provide broaden range of altcoins than this will means it will need alot more server for that and not to mention different wallet for each type of coins (this is why most sites use shapeshift.io to simplify things )
6747  Economy / Services / Re: [OPEN] BITBINGO.IO - The Highest Fixed Rate Campaign, bi-weekly pay on: May 27, 2015, 06:12:32 PM
Could someone tell me in VERY simple terms how to 'sign this message with that address' ?

Frankly its not even clear to me which message or address she is referring to ...

Sign message with your previous address which is 1JAEQJyWRd64Qrwgq7WHhGzDz4wDDDqdxM. This is a full guide by shorena on signing a message https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=990345.0

Basically you will need to put in a message like this

Code:
Hi this is Indamuck and today is YYYY/MM/DD , please change my address into ..

But since that you are using bitfinex address, it will be impossible for you to sign it, you will need to contact bitfinex support regarding this

6748  Economy / Gambling / Re: BetterBets.io - Bitcoin Casino ★Unique Luck Forging★ Powered by Moneypot.com on: May 27, 2015, 05:57:37 PM
as i understand that person asking for play as guest player/anonymous without any kind of registration like many dice sites has that features when any player visit that site his account automatically created and than he wish to enter password to make save or not it is all about on player's choice.

It is impossible to do so because they are integrated with moneypot and player needs to register at moneypot to be able to play at betterbets. Unless Lobos could make an auto registration in moneypot each time new players visit the site, this would help with the registration process though

P.S : registration is moneypot is actually simple, username and password only. Email is optional

You wanted fast betting, we delivered. Now, what else do you want?  Grin

#1 Zig zag autobet feature, bet for H if lose/win change to L instead

#2 Ability to view the details of the X roll number such as multiplier, wagered, hashes etc

#3 Ability to check on other user profile.

This would be a nice addition though
6749  Economy / Gambling / Re: Is there any way for casinos to cheat the provably fair? on: May 27, 2015, 05:37:17 PM


I feel even if any site was to cheat by skipping rolls they would probably do it by doing it when the robot is on . That way for every 100 bets, they could skip one of the bets, and that along could give them an extra percent or more of house edge.

A small percentage for profit and a small thing that could ruin their site reputation. Once people know about this, the site will be dead as no one will be playing there again so it is safe to assume that some big sites like PrimeDice and JustDice is not doing this since it could hurt their reputation badly
Well, there is absolutely no way of knowing if a site cheats or plays against the investors as it will just be another investor. Primedice has no reason to do it as they have no investors(unless they play against the private investors , if they have any) . Can't comment on any other site as its almost impossible to know.

Yes it is indeed no way to know about this but to be honest I dont see the need of them doing this since they are getting profit from the site even without doing this. Most Site are designed at 1 % house edge and in most site the average profit is above 1 % . As for PrimeDice, I believe Stunna got the biggest stake there so he doesnt need to do this thing either as the profit will mostly goes to him.
6750  Economy / Gambling / Re: Join Manny Pacquiao's eSports Betting site! 100mBTC Deposit bonus! on: May 27, 2015, 05:31:30 PM
To address your doubts, Yes, we do have Manny Pacquiao on our side. We've already proven it to our bank, our payment processor, our licensing authority, etc. with all the required paperwork (when running a real money gambling site, you need to prove a lot of things to many different people).

Unless you could ask Manny to confirm about this then I think most people will not believe that this is backed by Manny. I've seen alot of article mentioning your site is backed by Manny but I do still have a doubt about it .

Simplest thing you could do is to ask Manny to confirm this via his official twitter account https://twitter.com/mannypacquiao . I havent seen any confirmation from Manny's side regarding this casino
6751  Economy / Gambling / Re: BetterBets.io - Bitcoin Casino ★Unique Luck Forging★ Powered by Moneypot.com on: May 27, 2015, 04:33:36 PM
But in my case, when I got the notification " your balance is not enough" I saw my balance is more than enough (3.2mbtc). But after I refreshed it, I saw my actual balance (0.27mbtc)
It means that my balance was not updated..at least for the last several bets.
Perhaps it was a problem in my connection that made my balance was not updated.

Yes It is because your balance is not enough. The problem for this is because that the last bet result is not updated according to the sequence of the roll but instead it is updated after the next roll is executed

i.e Balance 10 satoshi

Bet 1 satoshi lose -->> Balance still 10 satoshi
Bet 1 satoshi again lose --->> balance will be 9 satoshi ( balance updated after the next roll which should be 8 satoshi instead now)

If you are autobetting, you could stop and restart your autobetting, therefore your balance will be updated as well without refreshing the page

P.S : happened to me while autobetting



6752  Economy / Gambling / Re: Is there any way for casinos to cheat the provably fair? on: May 27, 2015, 08:57:44 AM
I think that provably fair no effect I've tried a few games of dice and try to change the seed hash but still game so that and eventually lost as well. This according to me but perhaps by others that provably fair is working well

You seem to have no idea what "provably fair" means. It is not a thing that will increase your winning chance if you change your seed hash. It is a mechanism to verify your bet and see if the house is cheating or not

The only problem that I can see is if the owner actually plays the house and causes losses.

Yes the owner of the sites could, this is a concern about a site with investment feature, in the end you will have to trust your site operator

So that's what a "nonce" is!  Thank you for explaining that.

No problem

But I was trying to prove any nonce consistency in 999dice and couldn't really see it.

AFAIK 999dice is cheating by not showing the hashes beforehand and not by skipping nonce ( probably they are skipping nonce as well )

P.S : not quite sure about this, I may be wrong

I feel even if any site was to cheat by skipping rolls they would probably do it by doing it when the robot is on . That way for every 100 bets, they could skip one of the bets, and that along could give them an extra percent or more of house edge.

A small percentage for profit and a small thing that could ruin their site reputation. Once people know about this, the site will be dead as no one will be playing there again so it is safe to assume that some big sites like PrimeDice and JustDice is not doing this since it could hurt their reputation badly
6753  Economy / Gambling / Re: Is there any way for casinos to cheat the provably fair? on: May 26, 2015, 06:51:34 PM
So it would be plain impossible for, primedice as an example, to cheat the rolls? I have a friend who played there, by my advice and he said that they were definitely cheating, i told him about provably fair but he still said they were cheaters so i was wondering if you could really cheat the system.

It is not impossible, but it is still possible since the house could skip 1 or 2 nonce for every X bet but PrimeDice wont be risking their reputation by cheating the rolls. They are making alot of BTC even without cheating.

Your friend can use this simple verifier to verify the rolls if he think the house is cheating the rolls http://dicesites.com/primedice/verifier

Actually it is about psychology state, people tend to blame the others if they lose something, i.e your friend blame PrimeDice for cheating the rolls because he lost there
6754  Economy / Gambling / Re: Join Manny Pacquiao's eSports Betting site! 100mBTC Deposit bonus! on: May 26, 2015, 01:31:32 PM
IT seems like this site is affiliated with Manny Pacquiao indeed . If you check on google then you can see alot of news and article regarding it affiliating with Manny Pacquiao. This is one of the ARTICLE from Calvin Ayre. No harm in tryong the site with the free bet atleast but do your own research before depositting though

Found this btw

Code:
Vitalbet is not available to residents of the United States or Hong Kong. 
6755  Economy / Gambling / Re: Is there any way for casinos to cheat the provably fair? on: May 26, 2015, 12:38:03 PM
Could there be any way that when you try to verify it they would know and they would change the number, you have to copy the seed to verify it so maybe when you control + c they automatically change the nonce to something that would seem normal when they were cheating? I dont know if im expressing correctly.

pd: Im making all these questions because some casinos have managed to win quite a lot of money in a really short time wich makes it suspicious.

They cant change it once the hash is shown then its all done there. Even if the hash is shown, most people dont verify their rolls, due tot that if the house is thinking of cheating then they would probably be skipping the nonce instead since people wont be noticing if a nonce is missing or not

P.S : casino is designed with edge which means they will get more instead of losing more

They have no reason to do that when casino can earn with their house edge.
It would destroy their reputation which is not a way anyone will run a business.

999dice does this and the site is still standing right now. Players are quite a bunch there and most of them doesnt care and keep on rolling blindly even though there are alot of evidences that prove the site is a scam site
6756  Economy / Gambling / Re: Primedice.com | Most Popular & Trusted Bitcoin Game | Huge Community | Free BTC on: May 26, 2015, 08:54:41 AM
I don'tunderstand why peoeple doesn't enter the  email in profile , it was specially designed for these cases , if you haven't inserted your mail , do not complain about the timing

Some people dont because they do not want to be spammed with newsletter every 3 days or so. This happened quite alot if you are entering your email for subscription then be prepare to get your mailbox full of newsletter  ( some kind of traumatize )
Although Stunna has given his words on that the email will be solely use for account restoration, some people still tend to avoid providing their email since email is considered as a sensitive stuff to be known as well
6757  Economy / Gambling / Re: Is there any way for casinos to cheat the provably fair? on: May 26, 2015, 08:50:15 AM
I dont have enough knowledge about these kind of things and thats why i am asking it. Is there any way to cheat it? To make it look like the rolls were fair when they were actually being manipulated?

Yes there is, Casino that dont show hashes beforehand could be manipulating the result. That is why it is important to show hashes beforehand but most people are not aware of this

Another thing will be skipping nonce. Basically with each bet of the hash the nonce increase, if a casino is skipping nonce than the site could alter the result of the game

i.e player betting at 49.5 % chance at 1 % edge dice sites

nonce 3 - rolls 67.23 ---- Player bet low -> lose
nonce 2 - rolls 47.61 ---- Player bet low -> win >>> the house skip this nonce and goes to nonce 3
nonce 1 - rolls 90.34 ---- Player bet low -> lose
nonce 0 - rolls 97.11 ---- Player bet low -> lose

The house could be skipping nonce and goes straight to nonce 3 making them could alter the result of the rolls


Im a bit confused, whats the nonce exactly? This?


In security engineering, a nonce is an arbitrary number used only once in a cryptographic communication.

Like asigning a random number to each roll?

Not random number. To explain it simply nonce is nothing more or less a number to indicate your roll sequence

roll number 1
roll number 2
roll number 3
roll number 4

In nonce it will be nonce 0, nonce 1, nonce 2 and nonce 3. The nonce will keep on increasing as long as you are still rolling and it will goes back to nonce 0  if you change your hashes. If you wish to try on this, you can try it here http://dicesites.com/primedice/verifier






I see now. Then its not possible for them to cheat doing that because you would notice it fast enough right? But you have to verify each roll, you cant verify all your rolls at once right? Thats why you need to use the nonce for each roll verified?

Not impossible , they can still cheat but player will notice it right away if they verify their bet but most people tend to not verify their bet that is why this loophole could be used to cheat by the site
6758  Economy / Gambling / Re: Is there any way for casinos to cheat the provably fair? on: May 26, 2015, 08:26:06 AM
I dont have enough knowledge about these kind of things and thats why i am asking it. Is there any way to cheat it? To make it look like the rolls were fair when they were actually being manipulated?

Yes there is, Casino that dont show hashes beforehand could be manipulating the result. That is why it is important to show hashes beforehand but most people are not aware of this

Another thing will be skipping nonce. Basically with each bet of the hash the nonce increase, if a casino is skipping nonce than the site could alter the result of the game

i.e player betting at 49.5 % chance at 1 % edge dice sites

nonce 3 - rolls 67.23 ---- Player bet low -> lose
nonce 2 - rolls 47.61 ---- Player bet low -> win >>> the house skip this nonce and goes to nonce 3
nonce 1 - rolls 90.34 ---- Player bet low -> lose
nonce 0 - rolls 97.11 ---- Player bet low -> lose

The house could be skipping nonce and goes straight to nonce 3 making them could alter the result of the rolls
6759  Economy / Gambling / Re: BetterBets.io - Bitcoin Casino ★Unique Luck Forging★ Powered by Moneypot.com on: May 25, 2015, 06:28:41 PM
P.S : Im having trouble with autobetting since you have fixed the autobetting, it keep on stopping like after 300-500 bets even though my connection is on its prime, its happened to "trinity" too I guess

Are you getting any sort of error message/popup?

If you are getting an error popup, it would be helpful for you to help us determine the cause of this. To do this, please open your debug console (in GoogleChrome press Ctrl-Shift-J) and then watch the console while the bot is running. When the bot stops, check your "Console" tab for an error and also check your network tab to see the response received for the request which caused the reset. Please forward this info to us and we'll see what's going on.

Thanks in advance.


Got some pop up but I didnt read it and I have sent you what written at my debug console via PM

This seems to be a bug



The percentage bar turn in a "type-able" number bar , this only happen if you click chat, chat 1x then click on my account options. If you refresh your page then it will be back to normal
6760  Economy / Gambling / Re: BetterBets.io - Bitcoin Casino ★Unique Luck Forging★ Powered by Moneypot.com on: May 25, 2015, 06:04:34 PM
Another thing for you to fix/add

#1 The "raffle ticket earned" bar is not updated automatically, players need to refresh to see the new number of tickets earned (should be automatically)

#2 The percentage of raffle ticket scroll bar is unnecessary. I have like 205 tickets and It will be weird number if I set it into 17 % percent of my tickets to be put in the monthly raffle. Should be having a number box which can be fill accordingly to our tickets number

#3 The achievements at the site is actually unnecessary either because it doesnt give any more advantage than a none achievement account. Would be great if there is a feature to lower the house edge or gain more from faucet by achieving the achievements


P.S : emoticon for chat would be nice touch

Hi, thanks for your suggestions/comment. Please see my answers below:

1) Correct, I'll fix that ASAP.

2) Well, we've debated this internally and it is my conclusion that the percentage bar is most appropriate. Let me explain the drawbacks of using a fixed number rather than a percentage:
a) Lets assume that 3 days before months end you have 50 raffle tickets. You then decide to edit your account preferences and say that want to enter 25 (50%) of your tickets into the monthly raffle.
b) Over the next few days you gamble like crazy (or just run the built-in bot for a few hours) and 3 days later you have 80 raffle tickets.
c) If you still want to enter 50% of your tickets into the monthly draw, you'd have to into "Your Account" again and adjust this number. If we assume that you're busy with your job, trading altcoins or walking your dog, you might well forget to do this, resulting in you submitting about 35% of your raffle tickets, which is probably not what you intended.
d) Lets assume that you do #c and during the next month, you don't gamble a lot and forget to update this setting. You would then submit either all or a much larger percentage of your raffle tickets, which again may not be what you want.
To summarize: With a percentage setting, you can set the percentage and forget about it; it will always adjust based on the number of available raffle tickets. I believe that this a better (and lower-maintenance) solution when compared to using absolute numbers since lets face it, you'll always submit a given number of raffle tickets based on the total number of raffle tickets available to you (this is essence is a percentage expressed as a fixed number); allowing you to set this preference percentage-based just means that it's a low (or even "no") maintenance operation and is generally a more flexible solution which nicely auto-adjusts without you having to worry about the details.

3) We are working on making those achievements give you a/some tangible benefit(s) on the site and are debating a number of ideas for this. More news on this in the future.

I hope this explains our reasoning behind choosing a percentage based setting.


I see if this is the reason for you to make on the percentage bar instead of number bar there but I think it is better if you make a limitation of atleast 5/10 % increase or decrease for the percentage bar since it will be a funny number if someone who has 68 tickets and use 17% for it.

As for the benefit for the achievement, I would propose to lower the house edge feature for account with X achievements . Its quite popular around and only 1 sites has it for the moment.

P.S : Im having trouble with autobetting since you have fixed the autobetting, it keep on stopping like after 300-500 bets even though my connection is on its prime, its happened to "trinity" too I guess

on my side auto-betting not working correctly it doesn't increasing bet amount 100% on loss, it remains same after lose as base bet amount, is that some kind of bug in it?

working for me here, dont tick on reset on loss tickbox
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