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[erwin45hacked]

Sorry to ask this, can you please clarify on this

Since you are using moneypot's balance for your bankroll, this means that you as an admin could play at the site as well and drain's moneypot balance isnt it since you know the server hash and could know whats the next roll will be?

No, this is not possible since our systems are more integrated than that. We don't generate the rolls (ie: server hash, salt & resulting roll) locally. Instead all of these are generated on the MoneyPot servers and we get them via an API call. So we have as much advance prior knowledge of future rolls as any other casual user of our site (ie: none).

Here are the the things we can't do:
- Pre-determine future rolls
- Manipulate rolls to influence their outcome
- Steal the MoneyPot bankroll assigned to our site
- etc.

Basically, by using our site you are guaranteed that we are unable to game the system in any way, shape or form.

Great question, they do use MoneyPot's balance as the bankroll and for that precise reason they don't have access to any privileged information. In fact, they know exactly as much as you know and you can actually create an app now ( https://www.moneypot.com/apps/new ) , and use the very same API that betterbets.io is using.

In the end will it be correct to assume that the owner of betterbets will be just like another normal user who play at the site since they will have no access to most things ? I assume the account thing is handled by moneypot as well since it is integrated with moneypot

[BetterBetsDev]

Sorry to ask this, can you please clarify on this

Since you are using moneypot's balance for your bankroll, this means that you as an admin could play at the site as well and drain's moneypot balance isnt it since you know the server hash and could know whats the next roll will be?

No, this is not possible since our systems are more integrated than that. We don't generate the rolls (ie: server hash, salt & resulting roll) locally. Instead all of these are generated on the MoneyPot servers and we get them via an API call. So we have as much advance prior knowledge of future rolls as any other casual user of our site (ie: none).

Here are the the things we can't do:
- Pre-determine future rolls
- Manipulate rolls to influence their outcome
- Steal the MoneyPot bankroll assigned to our site
- etc.

Basically, by using our site you are guaranteed that we are unable to game the system in any way, shape or form.

Great question, they do use MoneyPot's balance as the bankroll and for that precise reason they don't have access to any privileged information. In fact, they know exactly as much as you know and you can actually create an app now ( https://www.moneypot.com/apps/new ) , and use the very same API that betterbets.io is using.

In the end will it be correct to assume that the owner of betterbets will be just like another normal user who play at the site since they will have no access to most things ? I assume the account thing is handled by moneypot as well since it is integrated with moneypot

Correct. The only thing we store locally which influence the behavior of your account/session, are the settings you can change in the "Your Account" section/sidebar which are:

1) Email Address (optional)
2) Client Seed
3) % of Raffle Tickets you wish to redeem

Of course we also keep some other data (rolls taken, wins, losses, amount wagered, etc) but these are purely for statistics purposes.

All other account fields (balance, server seed & bet generation, etc) are handled by Moneypot. We retrieve them via an API call and display them, but in terms of taking bets, we go through exactly the same process as any other/regular user. We have no inside knowledge of future bets and and thus are at no advantage whatsoever when compared to a regular user.

[BetterBetsDev]

Just a quick update from your (hopefully) favorite Dev: we'll be pushing out a code update later today which, among other things, will contain some changes which will make our bot-users (ie: most of you) very happy.

Stay tuned for more news ...

[Altcoin4life]

Sorry to ask this, can you please clarify on this

Since you are using moneypot's balance for your bankroll, this means that you as an admin could play at the site as well and drain's moneypot balance isnt it since you know the server hash and could know whats the next roll will be?

No, this is not possible since our systems are more integrated than that. We don't generate the rolls (ie: server hash, salt & resulting roll) locally. Instead all of these are generated on the MoneyPot servers and we get them via an API call. So we have as much advance prior knowledge of future rolls as any other casual user of our site (ie: none).

Here are the the things we can't do:
- Pre-determine future rolls
- Manipulate rolls to influence their outcome
- Steal the MoneyPot bankroll assigned to our site
- etc.

Basically, by using our site you are guaranteed that we are unable to game the system in any way, shape or form.

Great question, they do use MoneyPot's balance as the bankroll and for that precise reason they don't have access to any privileged information. In fact, they know exactly as much as you know and you can actually create an app now ( https://www.moneypot.com/apps/new ) , and use the very same API that betterbets.io is using.

In the end will it be correct to assume that the owner of betterbets will be just like another normal user who play at the site since they will have no access to most things ? I assume the account thing is handled by moneypot as well since it is integrated with moneypot

Give the site a try I am a primedice fan but after using betterbets I like it more than pd. Devs more motivated by quality than greed proof is in these updates. Just my 2 cents

[BetterBets.io]

I just wanted to say thank you to all our players and those helping us improve our site.
As a new Bitcoin Casino you all have been instrumental in helping BetterBets succeed in the long term.

Don't forget to grab some raffle tickets before we draw the winner on this upcoming Sunday. I hope to have
them chosen by 6pm PST, we will post the winner on the threads of all the forums we have a presence on.
Please whoever wins, private message me with your Moneypot wallet address (so we can verify you own the account)
user name and we will point the 400 G/H mining to you for a month

Happy Hour with 0.25% house edge is every Friday.


-Bjorn

[panjul07]

I just wanted to say thank you to all our players and those helping us improve our site.
As a new Bitcoin Casino you all have been instrumental in helping BetterBets succeed in the long term.

Don't forget to grab some raffle tickets before we draw the winner on this upcoming Sunday. I hope to have
them chosen by 6pm PST, we will post the winner on the threads of all the forums we have a presence on.
Please whoever wins, private message me with your Moneypot wallet address (so we can verify you own the account)
user name and we will point the 400 G/H mining to you for a month

Happy Hour with 0.25% house edge is every Friday.


-Bjorn

Hi Bjorn,

Just got something weird in the auto betting system.
I got 25x loses streak and stopped  with notification "you dont have enough balance". But in fact I still have enough balance to continue the auto betting.
What's wrong then?

Thanks

[BetterBets.io]

I just wanted to say thank you to all our players and those helping us improve our site.
As a new Bitcoin Casino you all have been instrumental in helping BetterBets succeed in the long term.

Don't forget to grab some raffle tickets before we draw the winner on this upcoming Sunday. I hope to have
them chosen by 6pm PST, we will post the winner on the threads of all the forums we have a presence on.
Please whoever wins, private message me with your Moneypot wallet address (so we can verify you own the account)
user name and we will point the 400 G/H mining to you for a month

Happy Hour with 0.25% house edge is every Friday.


-Bjorn

Hi Bjorn,

Just got something weird in the auto betting system.
I got 25x loses streak and stopped  with notification "you dont have enough balance". But in fact I still have enough balance to continue the auto betting.
What's wrong then?

Thanks

Hello Panjul,

I will have our devs take a look, in the meantime see if you can refresh your balance using the icon next to your current bitcoin balance
then try autobet. If this doesn't work I will send you a tip for the inconvenience while the rest of my team resolves it. Sometimes balance falls
out of sync with our connection to moneypot, this is on our bug list to resolve.

[panjul07]

I just wanted to say thank you to all our players and those helping us improve our site.
As a new Bitcoin Casino you all have been instrumental in helping BetterBets succeed in the long term.

Don't forget to grab some raffle tickets before we draw the winner on this upcoming Sunday. I hope to have
them chosen by 6pm PST, we will post the winner on the threads of all the forums we have a presence on.
Please whoever wins, private message me with your Moneypot wallet address (so we can verify you own the account)
user name and we will point the 400 G/H mining to you for a month

Happy Hour with 0.25% house edge is every Friday.


-Bjorn

Hi Bjorn,

Just got something weird in the auto betting system.
I got 25x loses streak and stopped  with notification "you dont have enough balance". But in fact I still have enough balance to continue the auto betting.
What's wrong then?

Thanks

Hello Panjul,

I will have our devs take a look, in the meantime see if you can refresh your balance using the icon next to your current bitcoin balance
then try autobet. If this doesn't work I will send you a tip for the inconvenience while the rest of my team resolves it. Sometimes balance falls
out of sync with our connection to moneypot, this is on our bug list to resolve.

Seems that my balance was not updated during the the autobet, so I was shocked at that time, and did not try to refresh it.
After I refreshed it I could see my current balance, and yes my current balance is not enough.
Sorry for this, I did not know about this bug before.
Hope you and devs fix it soon.

thanks

[BetterBets.io]

I just wanted to say thank you to all our players and those helping us improve our site.
As a new Bitcoin Casino you all have been instrumental in helping BetterBets succeed in the long term.

Don't forget to grab some raffle tickets before we draw the winner on this upcoming Sunday. I hope to have
them chosen by 6pm PST, we will post the winner on the threads of all the forums we have a presence on.
Please whoever wins, private message me with your Moneypot wallet address (so we can verify you own the account)
user name and we will point the 400 G/H mining to you for a month

Happy Hour with 0.25% house edge is every Friday.


-Bjorn

Hi Bjorn,

Just got something weird in the auto betting system.
I got 25x loses streak and stopped  with notification "you dont have enough balance". But in fact I still have enough balance to continue the auto betting.
What's wrong then?

Thanks

Hello Panjul,

I will have our devs take a look, in the meantime see if you can refresh your balance using the icon next to your current bitcoin balance
then try autobet. If this doesn't work I will send you a tip for the inconvenience while the rest of my team resolves it. Sometimes balance falls
out of sync with our connection to moneypot, this is on our bug list to resolve.

Seems that my balance was not updated during the the autobet, so I was shocked at that time, and did not try to refresh it.
After I refreshed it I could see my current balance, and yes my current balance is not enough.
Sorry for this, I did not know about this bug before.
Hope you and devs fix it soon.

thanks

You can count on it, that particular issue will be in the next update I set the priority level higher

[BetterBetsDev]

I just wanted to say thank you to all our players and those helping us improve our site.
As a new Bitcoin Casino you all have been instrumental in helping BetterBets succeed in the long term.

Don't forget to grab some raffle tickets before we draw the winner on this upcoming Sunday. I hope to have
them chosen by 6pm PST, we will post the winner on the threads of all the forums we have a presence on.
Please whoever wins, private message me with your Moneypot wallet address (so we can verify you own the account)
user name and we will point the 400 G/H mining to you for a month

Happy Hour with 0.25% house edge is every Friday.


-Bjorn

Hi Bjorn,

Just got something weird in the auto betting system.
I got 25x loses streak and stopped  with notification "you dont have enough balance". But in fact I still have enough balance to continue the auto betting.
What's wrong then?

Thanks

Hello Panjul,

I will have our devs take a look, in the meantime see if you can refresh your balance using the icon next to your current bitcoin balance
then try autobet. If this doesn't work I will send you a tip for the inconvenience while the rest of my team resolves it. Sometimes balance falls
out of sync with our connection to moneypot, this is on our bug list to resolve.

Seems that my balance was not updated during the the autobet, so I was shocked at that time, and did not try to refresh it.
After I refreshed it I could see my current balance, and yes my current balance is not enough.
Sorry for this, I did not know about this bug before.
Hope you and devs fix it soon.

thanks

Dev here: are you sure this is what happened? I'm asking because I've run the bot a lot for testing purposes and except for some minor rounding errors (which I'm getting resolved) the balance has always updated perfectly.

Usually what happens in this type of scenario is this: you start with a base bet amount and set a multiplier on loss. Then, as you go through a series of losses, your bet amount increases until at some point it exceeds your balance. Are you sure that this is NOT what happened?

I ask because like I said above, I've tested the bot extensively and have never seen problems with it updating the balance.

[panjul07]

I just wanted to say thank you to all our players and those helping us improve our site.
As a new Bitcoin Casino you all have been instrumental in helping BetterBets succeed in the long term.

Don't forget to grab some raffle tickets before we draw the winner on this upcoming Sunday. I hope to have
them chosen by 6pm PST, we will post the winner on the threads of all the forums we have a presence on.
Please whoever wins, private message me with your Moneypot wallet address (so we can verify you own the account)
user name and we will point the 400 G/H mining to you for a month

Happy Hour with 0.25% house edge is every Friday.


-Bjorn

Hi Bjorn,

Just got something weird in the auto betting system.
I got 25x loses streak and stopped  with notification "you dont have enough balance". But in fact I still have enough balance to continue the auto betting.
What's wrong then?

Thanks

Hello Panjul,

I will have our devs take a look, in the meantime see if you can refresh your balance using the icon next to your current bitcoin balance
then try autobet. If this doesn't work I will send you a tip for the inconvenience while the rest of my team resolves it. Sometimes balance falls
out of sync with our connection to moneypot, this is on our bug list to resolve.

Seems that my balance was not updated during the the autobet, so I was shocked at that time, and did not try to refresh it.
After I refreshed it I could see my current balance, and yes my current balance is not enough.
Sorry for this, I did not know about this bug before.
Hope you and devs fix it soon.

thanks

Dev here: are you sure this is what happened? I'm asking because I've run the bot a lot for testing purposes and except for some minor rounding errors (which I'm getting resolved) the balance has always updated perfectly.

Usually what happens in this type of scenario is this: you start with a base bet amount and set a multiplier on loss. Then, as you go through a series of losses, your bet amount increases until at some point it exceeds your balance. Are you sure that this is NOT what happened?

I ask because like I said above, I've tested the bot extensively and have never seen problems with it updating the balance.

Yes you're right about what happened to me.
But in my case, when I got the notification " your balance is not enough" I saw my balance is more than enough (3.2mbtc). But after I refreshed it, I saw my actual balance (0.27mbtc)
It means that my balance was not updated..at least for the last several bets.
Perhaps it was a problem in my connection that made my balance was not updated.

[arallmuus]

But in my case, when I got the notification " your balance is not enough" I saw my balance is more than enough (3.2mbtc). But after I refreshed it, I saw my actual balance (0.27mbtc)
It means that my balance was not updated..at least for the last several bets.
Perhaps it was a problem in my connection that made my balance was not updated.

Yes It is because your balance is not enough. The problem for this is because that the last bet result is not updated according to the sequence of the roll but instead it is updated after the next roll is executed

i.e Balance 10 satoshi

Bet 1 satoshi lose -->> Balance still 10 satoshi
Bet 1 satoshi again lose --->> balance will be 9 satoshi ( balance updated after the next roll which should be 8 satoshi instead now)

If you are autobetting, you could stop and restart your autobetting, therefore your balance will be updated as well without refreshing the page

P.S : happened to me while autobetting

[BetterBetsDev]

But in my case, when I got the notification " your balance is not enough" I saw my balance is more than enough (3.2mbtc). But after I refreshed it, I saw my actual balance (0.27mbtc)
It means that my balance was not updated..at least for the last several bets.
Perhaps it was a problem in my connection that made my balance was not updated.

Yes It is because your balance is not enough. The problem for this is because that the last bet result is not updated according to the sequence of the roll but instead it is updated after the next roll is executed

i.e Balance 10 satoshi

Bet 1 satoshi lose -->> Balance still 10 satoshi
Bet 1 satoshi again lose --->> balance will be 9 satoshi ( balance updated after the next roll which should be 8 satoshi instead now)

If you are autobetting, you could stop and restart your autobetting, therefore your balance will be updated as well without refreshing the page

P.S : happened to me while autobetting

This is an entirely correct diagnosis of what's happening (nice job arallmuus). I'll see if I can fix that to force updating of balance upon receiving that error.

[BetterBets.io]

Thank you to our dev team for this, once you try it everyone, it's incredible. Don't take just my word for it though, give it a try.

[98problems]

my suggestion would be to make it register free, so it would tke less time to play and you would attract more players

[BetterBetsDev]

Just a quick update from your (hopefully) favorite Dev: we'll be pushing out a code update later today which, among other things, will contain some changes which will make our bot-users (ie: most of you) very happy.

Stay tuned for more news ...

Bjorn beat me to it with his infographic so you already know it's live. I just wanted to give you all some statistics: with the new code, if you use the slider to speed it up all the way, bets will be about 2.5 to 3 times as fast as before (this depends on many factors such as network latency, etc). But on a decent network connection you should now see about 5 bets/second.

You wanted fast betting, we delivered. Now, what else do you want?  

[BetterBets.io]

my suggestion would be to make it register free, so it would tke less time to play and you would attract more players

We are working with Moneypot, to make this easier and faster. This is a trade off for enhanced security of players funds and investment
options in a safe environment. Right now we are a new Casino with the luxury of having trust right from launch so our integration with
them has many benefits to everyone except account creation is a bit longer.

Look at it this way though, we had a choice to go alone or with Moneypot and RHavar's team, we made the best choice for the players and ourselves

[BetterBetsDev]

my suggestion would be to make it register free, so it would tke less time to play and you would attract more players

You mean allow playing without registration? If that's what you mean, see https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1065847.msg11447860#msg11447860 for an explanation why that's impossible.

If you meant something else, please clarify. Thanks for your feedback.

[Havelivi]

my suggestion would be to make it register free, so it would tke less time to play and you would attract more players

You mean allow playing without registration? If that's what you mean, see https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1065847.msg11447860#msg11447860 for an explanation why that's impossible.

If you meant something else, please clarify. Thanks for your feedback.

as i understand that person asking for play as guest player/anonymous without any kind of registration like many dice sites has that features when any player visit that site his account automatically created and than he wish to enter password to make save or not it is all about on player's choice.

[arallmuus]

as i understand that person asking for play as guest player/anonymous without any kind of registration like many dice sites has that features when any player visit that site his account automatically created and than he wish to enter password to make save or not it is all about on player's choice.

It is impossible to do so because they are integrated with moneypot and player needs to register at moneypot to be able to play at betterbets. Unless Lobos could make an auto registration in moneypot each time new players visit the site, this would help with the registration process though

P.S : registration is moneypot is actually simple, username and password only. Email is optional

You wanted fast betting, we delivered. Now, what else do you want? 

#1 Zig zag autobet feature, bet for H if lose/win change to L instead

#2 Ability to view the details of the X roll number such as multiplier, wagered, hashes etc

#3 Ability to check on other user profile.

This would be a nice addition though