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6741  Economy / Lending / Re: Lending Service Started! (BTC/LTC/ETH/DOGE/ETC)! on: January 28, 2019, 04:15:39 AM
Loan Amount: 0.01 btc
Loan Purpose: Trading
Loan Repay Amount: 0.012 btc
Loan Repay Date: 3 weeks or sonner
Archive to shorten the post., staked addres
BTC sent.
Trx: https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/70f4472dfd761f81c329899c8ee082a880b1fc1f69f5acd6d7931e436b0b2e42
Repayment address: 3JaFkXxj5g3MJRTDRH48mMUaKymvvLyMsk
6742  Economy / Lending / Re: Lending Service Started! (BTC/LTC/ETH/DOGE/ETC)! on: January 28, 2019, 03:51:36 AM
Loan Amount: 0.01 btc
Loan Purpose: Trading
Loan Repay Amount: 0.012 btc
Loan Repay Date: 3 weeks or sonner
Type of Collateral: None
Escrow profile Link: No
Bitcoin Address:  1D117bPbEjWp1WCcvSqxawFsKWyJ8K9H6L
Loan request accepted. You have to verify few things before I sent you the Bitcoin.
Please give stake address of your bitcoin address. And also provide sign message.
And also confirm me that you will not take any loan until you repay mine as well as you will not sell anything before the repayment which can be reversed.
6743  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: [DAILY FREE RAFFLE] 195th JUST BECAUSE I AM STILL IN A GOOD MOOD FREE BITCOIN on: January 28, 2019, 12:55:48 AM
2-shasan
6744  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Hacking accusation: zTheWolfz, Aleks09, Mr Felt, shdvb - discussion needed. on: January 28, 2019, 12:13:45 AM
The hacker can sell those merits (or took merit to his accounts) or hacker can send merit randomly. If these accounts are connected then we would be able to tell undoubtedly that those are engaged with hacking or merit abusing.

It would be a huge co-incidence to have never received merits and then get 50 merits randomly from a hacked account.

Why would a hacker give away free merits (maximum allowable) to random accounts when they can sell them ?

I have strong suspicions that the accounts are either associated to the hacker or th merit was bought - either deserves red tagging.

Mr Felt got merits from a hacked account AND got trust from a different account with a hacking accusation against it.
Usually, it engaged with merit trading and/or sending merit to his/her own account. But sometime it may happen sothat we can concentrate on the merited person so that hacker can stay away. But as merited accounts are not high ranked that possibility is too low. There might have 5-10% chance to be random. If they trade those merit then it will be difficult to catch though we imagine they are engaged merit trading but if those are altered then we could tell 100% confidently. I will try to visit those profiles and try to get if there is any matching info.
Edit:
All merit has been sent within 6 minutes so there is more chance to alter account of the hacker.
All accounts received merit only from the hacked account.
They have not used any smerit. So, if they bought they could sell too. It is more chance to be altered of the hacker account.
Your mentioned 3 positive feedback was long ago in the meantime anyone's mind can be changed.
6745  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Hacking accusation: zTheWolfz, Aleks09, Mr Felt, shdvb - discussion needed. on: January 27, 2019, 11:46:49 PM
The hacker can sell those merits (or took merit to his accounts) or hacker can send merit randomly. If these accounts are connected then we would be able to tell undoubtedly that those are engaged with hacking or merit abusing.
6746  Economy / Lending / Re: Need 0.06 BTC. on: January 27, 2019, 05:05:56 PM
You have written a long story which I do not want to make any more argument.
I need this very badly, as the coin is sure to skyrocket so hard it'll make me 3x at least. If you've got your own offers, PM me.
I have an offer and that is trying to take part in a good signature campaign and work hard. And then you would be able to earn the profit. In the meantime make your profile more reputed and stake your bitcoin wallet. If you really in need loan then people may consider your case. Base on your profile condition I do not think anyone will give you any loan without collateral.
6747  Economy / Reputation / Re: Is it Merit abuse? on: January 27, 2019, 04:47:11 PM
They are friends or members of the same community.
I agree with it only about 25% rest 75% they are alter. Experienced merit abuser detector will be able to judge properly what that actually should be.
6748  Economy / Lending / Re: Regarding account as collateral! on: January 27, 2019, 02:38:50 PM
I have a point about this.

Take accounts as collateral.

But the additional value added to that loan should be no more than 0 satoshi. The situation should be considered the same as if they were to ask for a no-collateral loan.

Accounts should not give a user any extra reputation for leverage. After all, what more do they have to lose if they're just going to default?
Don't trade the accounts afterward, of course.
As account trading is not trustworthy taking account as collateral means 0 collateral and if default then from there lender can get 0 satoshi. But by taking account as collateral may decrease more scam activity as Borrower will not have any access of the account. But if the lender is the same of borrower I mean if lender trades the account then his personal account as well as selling account should be tagged negatively. As happened for grtthegreat
6749  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: [WTS] PayPal and [WTB] BTC/LTC/ETH/ETC on: January 27, 2019, 02:32:10 PM
Reserve
6750  Economy / Lending / Re: Lending Service Started! (BTC/LTC/ETH/DOGE/ETC/PayPal)! on: January 27, 2019, 10:59:31 AM
Partial repayment out of 0.025 BTC loan - 0.0075 BTC sent.
Remaining 0.018375 (after calculating interest).
After internal decisions and mutual understanding, we've come to an agreement of combining both loans and shifting repayment date - it will now be BTC0.1491 on 10th February, 2019.
Archive to shorten the post.
Partial Repayment, Combine all into one, new loan amount and repayment date are confirmed.
6751  Economy / Reputation / Re: Legendary account seller on: January 27, 2019, 03:57:10 AM
It's from your side and you recover your lent amount. But what about account buyer? Who have bought account he already got tag so account is worthless. Will you return him his fund and will you get back account? If not then it's not equal a scam ? Because you know very well sold account will tag if DT aware about that. If you are honest then you should get back account and refund buyer fund since account got tagged.
Why only account buyer will be tagged? If tag requires then it should be both for seller and buyer. Isn't it?
6752  Economy / Reputation / Re: Legendary account seller on: January 27, 2019, 01:58:00 AM
Because it is unrealistic to only fund loans with valid collateral. From my altcoin collateral required service, I've only had 16 loans given out since April 2018. I've lent much more in both count and value in private to members who I trust without collateral. Crypto Capital attempted to undercut my lending service; unfortunately, they did not get a single loan application with valid collateral. I don't know what zarzab's numbers are, but I'd estimate that they very rarely get loan applications with valid collateral.
You have received the highest number of valid collateral according to your lending time. It is because you are a DT as well as a high ranked person, no negative trust etc.
On the other hand Crypto Capital is a member and also no positive trust, no DT power as a result though s/he has escrowed fund yet almost no loan with valid collateral.

For zazarb who is a reputed member as well as high ranked got a good number of valid collateral but not better than yours comparing time.
6753  Economy / Lending / Re: Regarding account as collateral! on: January 27, 2019, 01:42:35 AM
a 1 min. look into your thread

I just hate hypocrisy
Probably you have not read my lending rules and edited time of those rules. That incident happened before my new rules. And edited rules marked as red. Also after editing archived that. See post number 2.
6754  Economy / Reputation / Re: Legendary account seller on: January 27, 2019, 01:37:23 AM
So you want a strict criteria of how lenders can operate or be red tagged?
If I give a loan to someone that has another outstanding loan I will get tagged for it?
I will get tagged if I don't place a neutral on the account that has an outstanding loan?
I can't give an anonymous, non-public, loan without getting tagged?
Okay first let me show you a post from a DT (xtraelv):
Account sales / purchase / taking an account as collateral
Which means if a lender takes account as collateral then lenders will be tagged. In this situation, there should have a solution either lender will take account as collateral or not. As it is already solved that account trader will be tagged. So now account trading is rare and if happen that is secretly(except only a few).
So, if taking account as collateral is untrustworthy for what lender will get negative trust. So, there should have few rules to avoid taking account as collateral as well as minimize loan default and scammed for trading reversible payment.

I'd absolutely love it if Theymos banned certain things on bitcointalk, and account sales are near the top of my list (scamming would take the #1 spot).  If account sales were banned, chances are that lenders might become reluctant to accept them as loan collateral.
If it happened then we would be able to reduce scam both on loan as well as currency exchange. And account trading will reduce at least 96%.
6755  Economy / Reputation / Re: Legendary account seller on: January 26, 2019, 11:50:44 PM
I see +2 on that account. Got to do some research, I guess.
I saw +3 as we still not created scam accusation waiting for his response.

Why is it so hard to take valid collateral and not someone's reputation/age/etc?
It is the easiest way to avoid a scam. But few people who really need a loan and doesn't have valid collateral (the only altcoin is valid collateral according to me), lenders usually consider that (I think). I have seen several Reputed members even DT1 took a loan without collateral. And maximum reputed members are very honest. For example: actmyname asked for a loan of 0.25BTC without collateral where 2 people send so total received 0.5BTC. actmyname refunded 2nd sender. And repaid early to the first person. I also gave actmyname a loan of 0.25BTC without collateral and repaid on time as usual.
6756  Economy / Reputation / Re: Legendary account seller on: January 26, 2019, 11:39:04 PM
a lender that does this and ends up selling the account is knowingly scamming the next person (as it will get tagged on sight).
I am exactly at the same point as you.

Is there really a need for someone to accept loan requests that involve accounts? If you claim so, then explain why it is absolutely necessary.

As of my 3 examples above scammed could be stopped if the account was on collateral. Or at least 2nd person could stay away scamming. My opinion is that account can be taken as collateral only to stop more scamming, nothing else. Should not trade the account as grtthegreat did. Though grtthegreat not tagged I am not forcing anyone to tag or stay away from tagging. But base on other cases he should be done so.

Are you saying that unsecured loans are risky?
Yes, that is risky for both the current lenders as well as other lenders also buy of reversed payment eg: skril/neteller/paypal etc.

That's shocking but still not a good excuse for account trading, not to mention all the other potential shenanigans.
I am also on the same point as you. I am also against account trading.
If you want to give out unsecured or poorly secured loans - take the risk yourself, don't push it on the community.
It is right that we should give the loan for unsecured collateral or poorly secured collateral on our own risk. But as you know all people are not on the same vessel. Few people give a loan while there is another active loan or take reversible payment. Which make looser for both person.
6757  Economy / Lending / Regarding account as collateral! on: January 26, 2019, 11:19:18 PM
Hey, Lenders stop taking account as collateral otherwise you will be tagged. Also while giving loan please keep consideration this type of rule until forum moderator/DT to save you and us (the bitcointalk community).

1. Account can't be used as collateral
= If so, then any lender cant take multiple loans at the same time and also would not be able to sell anything which can be reversed.
Lenders will give neutral trust once give a loan. And will not give any loan if there is an active loan which can be seen on neutral trust. If lenders or Borrowers break the rules then they/s/he will get negative trust by DT.
6758  Economy / Reputation / Re: Legendary account seller on: January 26, 2019, 11:14:30 PM
There are too many posts here for account trading and taking account as collateral. Many days ago I contacted two DT regarding taking account as collateral. Their opinion was not to trade the account. Before posting more I want to say I am also a lender and took account as collateral. But today I saw it was against DT's opinion I already changed my lending terms.

As account trader cant be a trusted person we (lenders if trade any account then we should not be a trusted person too.)
If so why lenders will take into account as collateral:
My opinion regarding this is to prevent more scam. Let me tell you, how?
When someone takes a loan latter can take another loan by few minutes where all discussion will be in pm then will make public posts and then took a loan. In this case, 2 people will be looser.
For example: pinkman12345 took a loan 0.2BTC from mdayonliner and then took 0.25BTC from TucoRamirez source: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=288496 so for taking multiple loans borrower became greedy and left his/her account for negative. But if it was used as collateral then the 2nd person could stay safe also there was a chance to stay safe.

And incident happens with me and zazarb: meatmeat took two loans from us and flew. We could prevent this scam if we took the account as collateral.

Let me give you another example but different situation: Real14Hero took a loan from tracyspacy and then sold amazon gift card and didn't give that. Source: Real14Hero is scammer.

In this situation, I want to make 2 appeals where anyone should be accepted. But it will depend on other reputed members, forum moderators, DT etc.

1. Account can't be used as collateral
= If so, then any lender cant take multiple loans at the same time and also would not be able to sell anything which can be reversed.
Lenders will give neutral trust once give a loan. And will not give any loan if there is an active loan which can be seen on neutral trust. If lenders or Borrowers break the rules then they/s/he will get negative trust by DT.

2. The account can be used as collateral:
= If so, lenders will be responsible for trading that account. If seen any account trading then all accounts buyer/seller/sold account will be tagged.

Mine prefer method 1. Let's see what is saying by reputed forum members/DT/Moderators.


If any method cant set then what can happen:
= In this case, many people will not be able to take loan while urgency but has no altcoin as collateral. And/or lenders and traders (not account trader) will be scammed more.
6759  Economy / Reputation / Re: Is it Merit abuse? on: January 26, 2019, 09:41:17 PM
I don't think your proof is sufficient. Only giving merit each other can't proof merit abuse or merit trader. I think you should obtain more info if possible.
If they are alts they will be tagged for sending merits to alts. I can't prove yet, that fakegurutu is an alt, but it's very fishy.
At least hisori and sham100899 are alts because they used same BTC address.

Let's wait how DT decides if fakegurutu is another alt of hisori/sham100899.
Okay. I think below information might be helpful for you.
Both are from Pilipinas. Archive: sham100899 and fakegurutu
Also, both person uses all small letters. Which you can see from the above archive.
Edit:
fakegurutu sent 3 merit to sham100899 at 6/6/2018 4:29:58 AM and
sham100899 sent 2 merit to fakegurutu 6/6/2018 4:36:41 AM That means merit exchanged only within 7 merits.
Both are using the same platform of bitcoin wallet. sham100899 and fakegurutu
6760  Economy / Reputation / Re: Is it Merit abuse? on: January 26, 2019, 09:28:29 PM
I don't think your proof is sufficient. Only giving merit each other can't proof merit abuse or merit trader. I think you should obtain more info if possible.
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