"Good for making a quick buck nothing more."

Yeah because who likes money. Overrated I say.

Why do you care? Altcoin trading is working out for me so far. The fact that its risky adds to the profit; you need good volatility for good returns.

Anyone can make money from anything its just a case of timing and execution. Even if altcoins were "dead" or "dying" you could make money off that.

"Did you register at cs.rin.ru with the same name by chance ?"

Nope

"Also i don't think your looking at the big picture.."

Correct I'm looking at trading.

"Those coins you say went up are an indication of the whole scene switching directions ?"

Not really no. Well yes, in terms of price obviously it is.

"Or do you deny the fact that this stuff is dead ?
How can you ?
Do i have to grab an endless stream of stats and my old quotes predicting it then quotes of me saying i told you so ?"

Depends what you define as "dead". Obviously some people have some interest in them, even if its just to trade or the price wouldn't go up 30%. Ethereum more than doubled.

"You know i don't get it.. it baffles me no matter how bad this stuff gets you guys sit in pure denial."

Denial of what? Trading alts can be profitable. I'm not sure if that means that they can be "dead".

"In order to make $3,000 usd profit on dirt cheap altcoins how much did you have to invest ?
Let's get that out of the way first off Wink"

Invested 12k GBP, now valued at £15k GBP

"2nd of all there always has and always will be random little pump[s of action."

Maybe random but not little. Litecoin and Ethereum and Namecoin went up about 30-40% or so.

"Both of you came to this topic to defend Altcoins and you posted no real reason to do so."

I just don't see why people are saying altcoins are dead after a big pump into them.

"you two guys think you won this argument ? LOL"

Its not an argument. I have no emotional investment in alts, just a financial one.

Like I say alts enjoyed big gains recently so the whole premise of this seems strange. Ethereum, litecoin and namecoin all went up a great deal. People are still making money trading them. I made a bit; not a huge amount, around £3k or so. They don't seem any more "dead" then they ever have.

Altcoins have had a major price increase recently so I don't understand some of these opinions.

The OP's view bears no resemblance to reality. Most altcoins have gone up like crazy recently.

Right but perhaps the pumping of bitcoins price as a speculative instrument has run its course. Perhaps if the price is going to rise further it needs to demonstrate more value other than being something a fool buys in order to sell to a bigger fool for a bigger price sometime down the road. Call me naive but I do think that bitcoin has something to offer outside of that.

Merchants accepting it, stand ups utilizing it.

When I first heard about bitcoin it was worth less than a dollar and sounded to me like a scam at first. Its now worth over $200 in just a few years. That isn't bad. I think that bitcoin needs more success in awareness and adoption; I don't see what good a higher price would do.

Oh nice one Mark, spending money people trusted to you on prostitutes. Deserves everything he gets.

Could I ask where, specifically, tens of extra billions of capital are going to come from though. Tbh I don't think such sums are ever chump change.

Yes, that is how it works. Bitcoins market capitalization, which is around $4.3 billion is the available supply multiplied by the price. Unless I'm mistaken in which case fine, point out why.

Its not clear to me. Is he still being questioned? Out on bail? In the clink? On a beach somewhere?

Anyone know what the deal is with Ol Mark and the Mt Gox claim situation?

    
With an available supply of 14,771,150 BTC it takes $4,351,964,840 to yield a price of $ 294.63. To move the price to $8k where are all of these extra billions coming from. Tens of extra billions. You know something we don't?

Bitcoin is over-pumped as it is.

Thanks for the responses so far. Any more would be appreciated with as much detail for what they would like to see.

The physical bitcoin I have in mind is somewhat different. I am looking for what YOU might want in such a product and if you would want such a product at all.

Hi there just doing some research if you'd like to help me out

* Are you interested in buying physical bitcoins?
* What price would you be willing to pay?
* What design would you like for a physical bitcoin bearer?

Any other comments about such a product

Thanks

Hi all

I'm looking to capitalise on and encourage the exciting growth of esports by setting up a coaching site using cryptocurrency.

I will need help and am willing to pay to develop certain systems including a reputation system, scheduling system and email notification system and automatic mailing system as well as the general website.

If anyone is a developer and interested please contact me but also anyone else who has a passion for esports and would like to see it grow and develop and who would like to join the project and has some helpful skills and enthusiasm.

Thanks for listening.

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