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681  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][KMD][dPoW] Komodo ICO - Zero Knowledge Privacy Secured by Bitcoin on: September 07, 2016, 11:31:38 AM
On the one hand, "jl777 never finishes anything"
on the other hand, screen shots from GUI that is open source and anybody can run and verify for themselves.

On the one hand, "jl777 abandons his projects"
on the other hand, there is a migration path for BTCD holders and all the projects tie into SuperNET.

On the one hand, "jl777 will NEVER be able to implement Zcash in Komodo"
on the other hand, jl777's input is being acknowledged in official Zcash protocol documentation.


ROFLMAO!   Grin


You got me there. I guess I do get involved in other projects on a volunteer basis, I hope that is acceptable?

I want to address the issue of "competition with zcash"
There is none.

open source projects are open source in the hopes that other projects utilize it, build on it, maybe even grant back improvements. That is exactly what komodo is doing. Utilizing zcash, building on it and we will of course gladly give back any and all improvements zcash team deems worthy. They are not going to be doing GUI for a while, so maybe we can contribute a dual ZEC/KMD GUI. And if they want to, they can even just strip out the KMD part of the GUI, but they dont strike me as that type.

I have also extended an offer for the 5% staking revenues from the zkp protected funds as there is no way to calculate anything but the aggregate amount in protected form. So this interest can either just extend the coin emission, or it can be donated to the zcash team. So far no interest in this from them. Probably since they are well funded and will be making a ton of money with the ZEC, which I expect to be a game changer in crypto.

The history of zcash starts with zerocoin that Dr. Matt Green wanted to have bitcoin adopt. Well, that didnt get very far... So there is now a zcash company that is creating a bitcoin compatible + zcash combo. Are they doing it with a profit motive? It doesnt look like it to me, they want the zkp tech to be disseminated far and wide. And they are only making money if ZEC becomes worth a lot. Money is nice and pays the bills, but that does not appear to be the primary motivation.

Being adopted by major projects is exactly what creates the big value to the original fork. And being adopted by major projects disseminates the zkp tech far and wide. After komodo's example, my guess is that there will be many other zcash forks so komodo will just be the first of many.


682  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][KMD][dPoW] Komodo ICO - Zero Knowledge Privacy Secured by Bitcoin on: September 07, 2016, 11:16:53 AM
Many of those assets were dividends, however the case of cryptocard is very disappointing. Jl777 launched that fundraiser on the btcd thread, collected 10k btcd from memory when it was worth a lot more, but now he says that was coinomat project. Jl777 converted all his cryptocard assets into WAVES, then sasha mentions after the waves ico ends that coinomat business will likely be sold (who would buy coinomat?), and definitely not part of WAVES. The cryptocard asset was a fail, and jl777 raised considerable funds, and dumped his own assets, probably knowing sasha's intentions to abandon it. Please correct if that is wrong, but either way, I can understand and accept much of jl777's past record, but cryptocard is a black mark imo. Jl777 started cryptocard, raised the funds, subcontracted sasha and coinomat, then adandoned the project and bailed to waves, probably with insider knowledge, leaving bagholders still thinking an anon debit card is still being worked on. Much is forgivable with jl777, but the cryptocard affair reflects poorly on jl777 and sasha.
The cryptocard has been completed for over a year as much as it ever would and even paid out a few dividends. while it is true is has been a disappointment, everybody had the chance to convert cryptocard into WAVES. That was public knowledge and available for all.

I had no insider knowledge of the status of coinomat and in fact I still hold millions of coinomat assets. My understanding is that coinomat business is being converted into a WAVES oriented one, which makes sense to me and why I continue to hold millions of coinomat assets. This is not any bailout behavior.

I think it is quite unfair that you accuse me of wrongdoing for swapping a disappointing asset using the same method available to everyone. Was I supposed to not do the swap? If so, then other people would accuse me of not doing what I should have. I believe all the amounts raised would have been recouped via the WAVES swap, at least very close to it, so a disappointment, but not a disaster.

683  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BitcoinDark (BTCD)--Financial_Privacy/SuperNET_Core/InstantDEX/PAX/Divs on: September 07, 2016, 11:08:05 AM
James, I must say you are doing a very good job here in communicating. You are always staying friendly and calm
The only thing was, that the timing went a little bad when you announced the fix price of BTCD/BTC for Komodo. I expected a little better rate for BTCD.
The ICO terms in general are fine and you should go on. If you give BTCD a little extra of +5%-10% would be fine, but if not I can life with this.
I expect from Komodo the same positive effect for the project, as Lisk has done for Crypti.
For me the situation is somehow similar.
So go one and use the good ICO conditions to get a proper founding – despite some ugly comments here.
I would say that Lisk was used as a validation of the swap method.

I did propose a way for BTCD long time holders to get a bonus, which could be in the 300 BTC range. That is actually within your 5% to 10%, but actually would be a lot more for the long time holders.

The requirements to get this bonus are that the BTCD community come to a consensus on how to calculate the bonus. For obvious reasons, I will not be involved in that process.

And komodo needs to raise the higher end of the goal. This amount would come from the 10% allocation for ICO costs so it doesnt affect the ICO structure.
684  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BitcoinDark (BTCD)--Financial_Privacy/SuperNET_Core/InstantDEX/PAX/Divs on: September 07, 2016, 11:01:04 AM
I am not sure why investors will be waiting for ICO to buy at 0.0042 - 0.0053 where they can buy BTCD now for 0.0035 and exchange that for KMD later.
Also, besides that ANN thread of KMD which is mostly read by BTCD community and trolls what else have you done or willing to do to draw attention and expect 30000 BTC ?
I don't even expect 1000 BTC as there are only BTCD hodlers who will just do a swap.
If only 1000 BTC comes in then there is no issue at all for BTCD hodlers, so if that is the expectation, then why all the fuss.

The early birds get a better price in exchange for more risk. The more time passes, the less the risk, so the higher the price. Even the last day ICO investors are taking more risk than first day exchange buyers.

There are people arbitraging below the ICO prices, though you will note the volumes are not very big, even compared to your 1000 BTC estimate. Though people who are convinced to invest will get the best price possible via BTCD below the arbitrage price.

I am not doing the marketing of the ICO, I am taking time out from coding to answer questions. That being said, I am fairly well known across all of crypto, from NXT to bitshares to bitcoin. I have volunteered my time to the zcash project and also the btcforks project and many others if they are asking me a question.

Also, please why do I have to keep repeating that 30K is a maximum, there is no expectation to raise the maximum. If there was it would be called the expected amount and the maximum would be higher. We are expecting 10,000+, but of course you could be right and it is 1,000. There is only one way to find out
685  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BitcoinDark (BTCD)--Financial_Privacy/SuperNET_Core/InstantDEX/PAX/Divs on: September 07, 2016, 10:29:23 AM
What I propose (and I might be wrong) which I don't mind swapping BTCD to KMD.
There are 20 million BTCD and 200 million KMD.
The swap shouldn't be BTCD to BTC and then BTC to KMD.
It should be an equal percentage based on total BTCD and KMD
Those who have 100BTCD will get ten times that in KMD. 1000KMD

I fully understand that funds are needed. ICO is not an option. From what I have seen so far, ICO coins tend to go down in value during the first days as developers who have plenty, dump them and investors are left there and interest goes down.
We/you need to find a way to draw attention and make investors join and invest just by buying and not by ICO, so there you go with the funding part.
With this way we will all benefit. Developers, old and new investors.

Other options might also be available AND might be better that what I proposed above and I think that was a matter which should have been discussed by the whole community prior to the "surprise" we received a week ago.

So, to make it clear what I do not like most from that change is the ICO part which will mostly help devs and not others and that's not going to be fair.

My option if things stay as they are, is to sell all of my BTCD, wait a bit where the KMD price will definitely be a fraction of 0.0042 BTC and buy later. As BTCD will be left without dev this will make price go down too and I might buy some too.

I think you misunderstood it to be 1 KMD for 1 BTCD, that is not possible under any scenario. Even in the max raised case, it would be more than 10 KMD per BTCD

What is being kept 1:1 is the value of BTCD against the value of KMD.
conversion price is approx 188 BTCD per BTC, so for 188 BTCD you get 1 BTC worth of KMD.

In the event the max 30,000 BTC are raised that is 3000 KMD per BTC, so my rough calculations are 3000/188 = ~16 KMD per BTCD, in the so called max dilution scenario. And that is for the unlikely maximum raised scenario, if less is raised the ratio goes higher. My calculations are probably off by a bit as things need to be offset for BTCD allocation, but hopefully you get the idea.

I hope this clears things up as I too would be upset if we were talking about 1 KMD for 1 BTCD!
686  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][KMD][dPoW] Komodo ICO - Zero Knowledge Privacy Secured by Bitcoin on: September 07, 2016, 10:19:43 AM
USSA is pushing for backdoors into encryption: http://thedashtimes.com/2016/09/06/fbi-announces-post-election-attack-encryption/

What we are working toward is to protect people from losing all their privacy, with the best technology possible.

Clearly, I could have set things up to pump the BTCD price to personally make a lot of money. I didnt. That is not my goal.

They say that actions speak louder than words.

komodo will raise potentially a lot of money, that's true. However, compared to the resources the real opponents of crypto have, it is a rounding error on the passive interest they can make in a day.

To me, money is a tool. A tool that can be used to get things done. I have been in a position to run away with millions of dollars worth of crypto, for years. I havent.

The crypto world is fragmented and getting worse, this is by design. Of the opponents. iguana brings all the bitcoin compatibles into the same technical platform. dPoW will bring all participating blockchains to be in harmony with bitcoin, to extend bitcoin's domain.

Build from strength. In crypto, Bitcoin is the strongest and most secure, but it is slow to evolve. dPoW allows Bitcoin to continue its slow pace, while allowing an entire ecosystem of innovative crypto solutions to benefit from its PoW expenditures.

687  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][KMD][dPoW] Komodo ICO - Zero Knowledge Privacy Secured by Bitcoin on: September 07, 2016, 10:02:38 AM
Isn't it possible to ban ICEBREAKER from the thread? He's making stuff up as usual
seems his sockpuppets got tired or something.
but I chose to not make a moderated thread as my believe is that intelligent people will be able to sort through the opposing views.

On the one hand, "jl777 never finishes anything"
on the other hand, screen shots from GUI that is open source and anybody can run and verify for themselves.

On the one hand, "jl777 abandons his projects"
on the other hand, there is a migration path for BTCD holders and all the projects tie into SuperNET.
688  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][KMD][dPoW] Komodo ICO - Zero Knowledge Privacy Secured by Bitcoin on: September 07, 2016, 09:59:17 AM
What is the situation for BTCD holders? How is this not abandonment?

I was wondering the same thing, is this essentially replacing it? Plus, out of interest how many ICOs has jl777 launched over the years?

Here's a (partial) list of ICOscam777 projects:

After spending hundreds of hours roaming this forum I must tell you I feel JL777 is the biggest scammer around.
The amount of BTC gathered for BTCD/superNET/NXT-assets issued by his gang is just horrendous.

And the feeling is like everybody is waiting for the miracle tech to come out if not today, tomorrow for sure.
Just scan the thread for BTCD, its almost, almost, almost there. It's finally coming together ... stuff like this on whatever page you chose.

But for BTCD in particular, I see the same wallet used for many months now. I know there is beta around, but it's almost 2 years since BTCD was born. 2 years.


From NXTforum:

(16) jl777's Group of Assets
Type: Dividend Paying

TOKEN (Unity) | ID: 15641806960898178066 | More Info | ACTIVE
sharkfund0 | ID: 3006420581923704757 | More Info | ACTIVE
SuperNET | ID: 12071612744977229797 | Forum | ACTIVE
NXTventure | ID: 16212446818542881180 | More Info | More info 2 | ACTIVE
InstantDEX | ID: 15344649963748848799 | More Info | Status
Privatebet | ID: 17083334802666450484 | More Info | Status
NXTprivacy | ID: 17911762572811467637 | More Info | Status
jl777hodl | ID: 6932037131189568014 | More Info | ACTIVE
Atomic | ID: 11694807213441909013 | More Info | Status
NeoDICE | ID: 18184274154437352348 | More Info | ACTIVE
NXTcoinsco (Tradebots) | ID: 17571711292785902558 | More Info | Status
cryptocard | ID: 7110939398145553585 | More Info | Status
Boost | ID: 9719950459730291994 | More Info | ACTIVE
SNN | ID: 15113552914305929842 | More Info | Status
SuperHODL | ID: 13120737659249432970 | More Info | Status
NXTforex | NA | NA | NA


(5) Joint Venture - Supernet, NXTventure

FreeMarket | ID: 134138275353332190 | More Info | ACTIVE
Omnigames | ID: 7441230892853180965 | More Info | Status
Pangea | ID: 6883271355794806507 | More Info | ACTIVE
Jay | ID: 8688289798928624137 | More Info | Status
Skynet | ID: 6854596569382794790 | More Info | Active
OpalToken | ID:  5326942574002986149 | More Info | Active


(9) Multigateways

MGW | ID: 10524562908394749924 | More Info | ACTIVE
mgwBTC (Bitcoin) | ID: 4551058913252105307 | More Info | PHASING OUT
mgwBTC (Bitcoin) | ID: 17554243582654188572 | More Info | ACTIVE
mgwBTCD (Bitcoindark) | ID: 11060861818140490423 | More Info | UNDER MAINTENANCE
mgwLTC (Litecoin) | ID: 2881764795164526882 | More Info | UNDER MAINTENANCE
mgwBC (Blackcoin) | ID: 7117580438310874759 | More Info | ACTIVE
mgwVIA (Viacoin) | ID: 275548135983837356 | More Info | UNDER MAINTENANCE
mgwDOGE (Dogecoin) | ID: 2303962892272487643 | More Info | ACTIVE
mgwDRK (Darkcoin) | ID: 17353118525598940144 | More Info | UNDER MAINTENANCE


Multiple coins are participating in SN, bought up by LJ (on investor's behalf of cause)
Aaaand there is new project born every day. And new ones after that. And some ideas for a brand few new ones in the middle.


Two years almost passed. InstantDEX is almost ready?




BTCD, after doing nothing for two years, is being abandoned.  Turns out BTCD was just a research project, not a serious effort with long-term committed devs.

SORRY FOR YOUR LOSS   Cheesy

Now shut up and buy into Kodomo, the replacement scam.

These gullible bagholding chumps love to throw their money away into every new ICO scam jl777 hypes.

I warned them jl777 never finishes anything he starts.

I even predicted this exact thing would happen; it's obvious when you see his pattern of ICO-hype-abandon-repeat.

Nobody should have the slightest bit of sympathy for fools who keep the faith in their Dear Leader, after having been burned so many times.

NEW FLASH: SUPERNET is being abandoned in favor of jl777's new project SUPER-DUPER-ULTRANET!!!!   Grin
I know you must be worried about XMR future with all the zcash tech about to hit the market. Still is it too much to ask of you to stick to the facts?

How many dozen ICO's am I supposed to have done? How many projects did I start?

Komodo is a continuation of BTCD, it is part of SuperNET

also iguana core is done and even a GUI is in beta test now, how can that be true if I never finish anything? How long should it take to write a bitcoin protocol daemon from scratch, that does parallel sync and also supports multicoins?

and you do know most of the assets in that list have never raised any funds at all, many of them are proxy assets used by MGW, internal holding assets.

Please stick to factual statements
689  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][KMD][dPoW] Komodo ICO - Zero Knowledge Privacy Secured by Bitcoin on: September 07, 2016, 09:51:39 AM
What is the situation for BTCD holders? How is this not abandonment?

I was wondering the same thing, is this essentially replacing it? Plus, out of interest how many ICOs has jl777 launched over the years?

BTCD, after doing nothing for two years, is being abandoned.  Turns out BTCD was just a research project, not a serious effort with long-term committed devs.

SORRY FOR YOUR LOSS   Cheesy

Now shut up and buy into Kodomo, the replacement scam.

These gullible bagholding chumps love to throw their money away into every new ICO scam jl777 hypes.

I warned them jl777 never finishes anything he starts.

I even predicted this exact thing would happen; it's obvious when you see his pattern of ICO-hype-abandon-repeat.

Nobody should have the slightest bit of sympathy for fools who keep the faith in their Dear Leader, after having been burned so many times.

NEW FLASH: SUPERNET is being abandoned in favor of jl777's new project SUPER-DUPER-ULTRANET!!!!   Grin
I know you must be worried about XMR future with all the zcash tech about to hit the market. Still is it too much to ask of you to stick to the facts?

How many dozen ICO's am I supposed to have done? How many projects did I start?

Komodo is a continuation of BTCD, it is part of SuperNET

also iguana core is done and even a GUI is in beta test now, how can that be true if I never finish anything? How long should it take to write a bitcoin protocol daemon from scratch, that does parallel sync and also supports multicoins?

690  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][KMD][dPoW] Komodo ICO - Zero Knowledge Privacy Secured by Bitcoin on: September 07, 2016, 09:27:59 AM
We have tried to make things as fair as possible for everyone and they say a good sign of a fair deal is that everybody is complaining.

You should try living in the UK. (Or maybe you already do. No one knows.)

The TL;DR here seems to be that BTCD investors get 50% bonus on ICO, plus any subsequent cap gains such as they may be. If they're zero, that's still 50%.
and a revshare snapshot asset to preserve that part of the BTCD value
691  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][KMD][dPoW] Komodo ICO - Zero Knowledge Privacy Secured by Bitcoin on: September 07, 2016, 09:15:50 AM
I think it's worth noting here that many coins go 3x on ICO market cap after launch. There are no guarantees of this, of course, and many factors involved. Ethereum and Waves were/are slow burners, others have gone 10x, but seen far more volatility.
Point is that BTCD investors get a 50% bonus, and then get to enjoy any price rise on ICO that comes from launch. If your concerns are solely financial, this seems like a pretty good deal to me.
Good points. We certainly dont want to get into making any specific market predictions, but I think it makes sense to do a few hypothetical "dilution" scenarios.

For example at the max raised, over any other scenario, the BTCD holders arguably are "diluted" the most. Of course if the .0053 price is considered a fair price, there is absolutely no dilution, but there seems to be a sense that some massive price boost would have happened absent the conversion price.

Why?

Probably the general price increases of many other privacy oriented cryptos, you know what I am talking about. OK, so which komodo has a better chance to achieve 50% marketcap of the highest marketcap privacy crypto? The komodo which raised the max or half the max?

It is worth to note that if 50% of the highest marketcap can be reached, then it is indeed more than 3x gain from the max amount.

How likely is this? Well, that is a probability evaluation investors will have to make, especially if the funds raised starts growing toward the max amount.

What chance does komodo which uses the zcash zkp tech secured by bitcoin of achieving half the market cap?

And investors can wait to see a working testnet, working iguana GUI, to get a better handle on the technical risk. BTCD holders further get an entire year before making the conversion decision.

We have tried to make things as fair as possible for everyone and they say a good sign of a fair deal is that everybody is complaining.
692  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BitcoinDark (BTCD)--Financial_Privacy/SuperNET_Core/InstantDEX/PAX/Divs on: September 07, 2016, 08:55:52 AM
I understand some people are upset, the news was quite shocking for me too. But please try looking rationally at the whole picture, if new funds are necessary is there any other way? Or how many C coders are available in the Btcd community to work for free?
I dont think the problem is, that the project needs new funds. The problem is the amount and the time.

Projects like nxt/ardor dont need any IPO to further develop new tech. They thought out the possibility to participate for the old community and new investors and it works! Everyone is happy, why isnt that possible here?

James you start to dilute the value of BTCD holders in such an enormous way months before the hot Phase of supernet development starts, which would have an Impact on BTCD Price for sure, and now you are surprised about the reaction? Really? I think youre smarter than that.


You Need Money for development? No Problem. BTCD-Holders 50% of the New coins, ICO-Investors 50% of the new coins.

Why the hell do you need 30Mio$ for development? Man thats still a coin isnt it? Sometimes it feels that crypto-world is like European Football Business. Totally out of control and no more feeling for reality.
There is absolutely no guarantee that full 30K BTC is raised, and even that would be $18 mil not $30 mil.

If 6000 BTC is raised, certainly possible, then indeed it will be split evenly between BTCD holders and ICO investors.

relevant post: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1605144.msg16173131#msg16173131
693  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][KMD][dPoW] Komodo ICO - Zero Knowledge Privacy Secured by Bitcoin on: September 07, 2016, 08:19:25 AM
Which price will be used for the BTCD swap after the ICO? The price of the market on exchanges or the average price of the ICO(collected BTC/total KMD quantity)?
The BTCD swap price will only be adjusted by the -5% per year to compensate for staking relative to the initial conversion price. One possibility would have been to stake for 11 months 29 days and collect 5% more, but if everybody did that there wouldnt be enough komodo

So there is no benefit to holding beyond the conversion period due to the 5%, it is neutral though, so no cost either.

This 1 year conversion option allows each BTCD holder to decide when to convert.

694  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] SuperNET trades on Poloniex as UNITY, asset id 12071612744977229797 on: September 07, 2016, 07:51:29 AM
"Future SuperNET revenue dividends

SuperNET will make revenues from the fees its core assets receive, as well as advertising revenue and shared fees with third parties. Targeted advertising similar to Google’s AdWords will allow website administrators to serve relevant adverts directly to the cryptocurrency community, with revenue being returned to SuperNET participants.

50% will be distributed as follows:
10 percent for overhead
20 percent for coin communities, according to their proportional contribution
5 percent for Nxt core development
5 percent for BTCD stakers
10 percent unallocated, for discretionary spending to maximise the market cap of SuperNET

The other 50% will go to SuperNET assetholders using the NXT dividend mechanism.

James:

SuperNET/UNITY is a very diversified asset that is the sum of all its parts. Keep in mind that these are mostly independent projects and different ones will come online at different times, so there won’t be a switch that just starts a flood of dividends. It will start with a small trickle and as the dozens of dividend sources all combine and grow, the SuperNET dividend will eventually become quite substantial.

With SuperNET, we have financial ties with the core coins and this will be needed to ensure continued cooperation, especially if we are in a prolonged bear market. What is easy to join, is easy to unjoin and I much rather have few coins with long term commitment to build upon. Only the coins that want to be featured in the SuperNET GUI and getting the cross promotion and technical integration, need to let us buy 10%. If they just want to use the SuperNET services, any coin can do this. Coins without redeeming features wont benefit from being part of SuperNET as nobody will use them. Still, any coin or website is free to connect to SuperNET and make its services available to its communities. "


I copies and pasted the above from OP. Is this still up today? I am holding a lot SuperNet assets since day one

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1605144.msg16171231#msg16171231 explains things a bit better than that graphic. Looking for someone to translate the reality into a graphic

Over time some of the details are changed, but the overall goal is still the same. What couldnt be done to unite all the coin communities via cooperating agreements, iguana does via technology. Currently over a dozen coins are iguana compatible and there could well be quite a few more.

GUI is now in beta testing for iguana, I think you will like it
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1605144.msg16173430#msg16173430
695  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BitcoinDark (BTCD)--Financial_Privacy/SuperNET_Core/InstantDEX/PAX/Divs on: September 07, 2016, 07:14:00 AM
James- the solution you have come up with is considerate and fair.

They say money brings out the worst in people- and we see that proven plenty in crypto, where it is exacerbated by anonymity.

These arrogant parasite whiners and complainers are not worth and not intelligent enough to let them spoil such a venture as this.

They think they own you, and that is a resentful notion.

Community? Which community?  Some deranged basement dwelling neckbeards that screech the loudest and most incoherent? Certainly not.

None of these critters will be able to make a proposal worth considering.

Please go through with it as outlined, and don't heed these two or three toxic distractors.
I wouldnt paint everyone with the same brush used to paint icebreaker. I dont see him volunteering to be the new lead dev.

Still I have heard enough complaints that I decided to formally address them. I have been doing my best with limited resources and I feel the results achieved with iguana are quite significant, but that is just the start of things. The problem of course is that as things go from being in the pure development stage that pays no dev costs, to rolling out products to the public, it will necessarily incur ongoing costs. If not money, then time.

I do see people helping out with support questions, but even for something like that, often I need to be the one that posts the answers. So what happens when we release a product? Am I to end up doing all the customer support for all the end users? What happens to the development schedule then?

I hope the people who initially came to the conclusion about how unfair the komodo conversion is, will after considering the constraints will understand that it is not unreasonable. In any case, it was the best I could do and it does provide a path toward completion of my vision, which has evolved and improved over time. Now I can describe in detail the entire structure, however if I do, then trolls will come out and say I am working on too many projects!

I cannot help that I am used to managing a dozen+ top caliber devs and so I am used to thinking in terms that a team like that can create. Without the dev team, I have to code it myself, but I can still get it done, it just takes a bit longer.

Took me 9 months to write iguana, the first multicoin parallel syncing bitcoin protocol daemon, including RPC, that compiles to 2MB. Is that slow? Not sure, but I know if I tried to find someone to do that, they would ask to fund a full dev team for at least that long. People dont realize the scale and difficulty of creating working backward compatible improvements to the state of art.

696  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BitcoinDark (BTCD)--Financial_Privacy/SuperNET_Core/InstantDEX/PAX/Divs on: September 07, 2016, 06:44:39 AM
There is a lot of misunderstanding about basically everything, from the finances to the tech. Please read the following links to get up to speed:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1605144.msg16149001#msg16149001

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1605144.msg16171231#msg16171231

For some reason the BTCD community feels entitled to 100% of all the results from all the work I have done and what SuperNET has paid for. How much has BTCD community actually donated to me or SuperNET for iguana?

Answer: 0

I know people have put money into the BTCD, I have too, but that doesnt pay for the expenses. I am working without getting paid, but it turns out that few others are willing to do that and servers they always cost money.

There is actually the ability for me to stop volunteering my time for BTCD and just say goodbye, and use the GPL codebase in any other project. Now that would be a betrayal, even if I refunded all the BTCD funds I received for all the development work: 0

So maybe the price will go up after the iguana release, or maybe the 'buy the rumor sell the news' crowd will sell and the price goes down. The market is unpredictable so it is hard to base future expenses based on potential market prices. Plus to take advantage of any price increase, BTCD would need to be sold and after that, then what?

The reality is that if I came begging for 500 BTC to fund expenses, it would have brought in how much? With effort we probably could have raised 10,000 BTCD or so. However, that means I need to stop coding and become a fund raiser? And how long does the 10,000 BTCD last, especially if it has to be sold to pay for expenses?

Also, the full solution with BTC fees and notary nodes would have ongoing costs and I would need 10 years worth to make sure it is funded for long enough to get self-sustaining revenues from transaction fees. With 500 BTC as the max possible that could be raised and likely much less, this means BTCD could not afford dPoW.

However dPoW is needed for the full SuperNET solution of interoperating chains loosely coupled via atomic swaps. The reason is weak chains are too insecure for storing large amounts of funds, so it is not a viable long term solution.

SuperNET investors have put in thousands of BTC worth of crypto and if you read the link above, you will see that it hasnt been exactly the carefree path of infinite money. To have to pay for operating expenses from portfolio gains is ok in a bull market, but what happens when this bull market gets tired?

If there are no more trading gains, then even the SuperNET workforce becomes reduced back to just me.

Contrary to the FUD there has NOT been dozens of ICOs for all the assets. Most of them were dividended out for free to establish a trading market, no funds were raised from any ICO type of sales for anything other than SuperNET which operates as a hybrid fund. I have paid more for pangea assets than I have received from selling it. So without this fantasy ICO funds from all the assets, many of which are projects from other devs, where does the money come from?

I could have come here and asked for thousands of BTC, but instead I designed the komodo ICO to allow a decent conversion into the ICO. A smaller piece of a larger pie.

yet, the feeling is that there is some giant betrayal that there is a fixed price conversion into komodo. In order to offer a conversion right, there has to be some sort of fixed price. In order to get a market based price uncontaminated by the ICO knowledge, we used a 50% bonus from trailing month. Not perfect, but better than any alternatives that exist.

That was my assessment. However maybe I was wrong and the community prefers to not have a conversion right for the ICO? That seemed like nonsense, so I didnt even bother investigating such things.

Maybe one way to look at it is that instead of having to come up with new funding to pay for expenses, the contribution from BTCD is to convert into the komodo?

Is that really too much to ask for?

I have asked for some solution to the "unfairness" to long term holders and finally there was a post with a possible solution:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1605144.msg16170817#msg16170817

people have expected me to do everything as evidenced by the lack of active contributions. how many of you have installed iguana? tested it? helped in any active way?

That is fine, I dont complain. I do what I have to do, but it does take longer if I am the only one doing things. (I do get help from the SuperNET project, which is paying for servers, testers, config managment and GUI devs). But that means I am forced to make executive decisions and in this case knowledge of the future would have contaminated the result. I decide that is not the right way.

Some have said it is in BTCD holder's interest to have the komodo ICO raise as little as possible. If you understand tech, then you will realize that is not the case at all, as without enough funding, BTCD might end up with 80%+ of komodo, but there wont be enough funds to properly do dPoW and pay for continued development.

It is a fine balance, if the terms are too preferential to BTCD holders, then it is against ICO investors. As a large BTCD holder, I had to err on the side of being conservative to avoid conflict of interest and maybe I went a bit too far, though using what is near the 1 year all time high price and 50% premium doesnt seem such a big sacrifice.

That being said, I am open to a bonus payment to long time BTCD holders based on a community agreed formula and data as per the third link above. If the community cannot agree on how to allocate any bonus, then I certainly dont feel that I can just decide it after the reaction to my recent decision.

Now the bonus would be earned only at the higher end of the ICO result as clearly if no funds come in and BTCD already ends up with all of komodo it makes no sense to bonus out more. However, until I get an idea of whether the community can even agree to any bonus plan, I really cant make any decisions. The bonus amount would come out of the 10% reserved for ICO expenses.

Remember there is also the revshare asset snapshot, so it is not like I have neglected the BTCD, I had to make a determination of a fair exchange rate to be able to offer an exchange. If the requirement to have an exchange to komodo is removed, then this problem goes away. I have been and continue to work on my single project, which is to create the tech that allows crypto to go mainstream. I have done my best to enable BTCD -> komodo to be a key part of this solution at a decent conversion price. It seems many do not like this at all and so I am open to alternate proposals.

If the BTCD community does not want this future path, then we need to figure out an alternate plan. I can help bring a new dev team up to speed to take over the BTCD 1.0 development without dPoW and LP nodes, but of course the community would need to find/fund such a dev team.

What is needed is a solution and not just a general complaint of unfairness.

Let me know what you decide, I will honor the community decision. And if there is any alternate solution that solves the issues presented, of course I am open to that.

James


697  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][KMD][dPoW] Komodo ICO - Zero Knowledge Privacy Secured by Bitcoin on: September 07, 2016, 04:28:53 AM
I have read the whole fucking thread and i'm still confused what's going on. First, i like James. I have had personal contact with him and i did some stuff for the Supernet network and he seems to be an honest guy full of ideas and devoted to build something.

But i don't know about this. The idea is perfect, but i can fully understand that there are people who are shouting that he didn't finished one of his projects. Maybe he did, i don't know really. I have a lot of BTCD's and maybe i'm gonna dump them or maybe i'm gonna switch them....i don't know. Personally i would like to see something real....and that was not an attack to James, but to all devs out there. ICO this, ICO that, pump here, dump there. ETH completely failing after a promising start (don't get me wrong, i did not invest in it).

The whole crypto currency world is too shady now a days. Hopefully James or any other dev can show us some real thing like Satoshi did in 2009.


throughout the thread it was hinted at that there would be a working something before the start of ICO. don't know what post though - it was the original poster who said it somewhere.

that would be ideal - the project would probably get a lot more funds raised if something noob friendly was usable before ICO.
hint?

I am saying that iguana is functioning at the command line level for a while now with most of the bitcoin rpc http://docs.supernet.org working, and about a dozen coins can be parallel synced. Though if you are syncing 5 coins at once there seems to be some issue. So if an iguana can sync 1 coin in parallel, but not 5, is it "completed"?

Also, we are right now testing a pure HTML/JS GUI and it is open for anybody to see it in action. There is no need to trust me on this. Both the iguana core and GUI are open source and can be built and run.

For making it noob friendly, we are working on installers, though for the type of tech we are making I hope people are not basing their decision on the presence or absence of an installer?

Also, please keep in mind that until zcash runs on windows, it is unlikely komodo will. However, we do have iguana working on some variants of windows, but it still has some issues for other versions. Since Win10 is able to run unix natively, this should be less and less of an issue, especially if the zcashd can run in the unix mode of Win10

If a project doesnt work with all versions of windows, but works on unix, osx and some versions of windows, is it "completed"?

We are working on making a end user testing version for iguana to be made available before the ICO starts. Given a wide coverage and bug reports, we can iterate that to make it more and more solid. All of the millions of projects that I supposedly started are in my 100,000 line codebase, ie. its one single project with a lot of functionality.

If a single project has many use cases, is it dozens of different projects? I think maybe the confusion is that I am making something that is similar to an OS. But what is an operating system without any applications? How to even know if the OS is working without any applications? So to make an OS, you need to make a few reference applications. And if an idea for a new application happens, does that fit within the framework of the OS, or does it somehow fragment the OS?

My assessment is that crypto needs a common framework for efficient development, if not all of crypto, at least I do. If a solution is being created to be able to build many different solutions, then many different solutions needs to be created on that system to make sure it can handle it. Otherwise you end up with limited scope speciality solutions that dont handle one or more types of problems that need to be handled.

I have a platform level solution that allows efficient solving of all the crypto's bottlenecks toward mainstream adoption. THAT is what I have been working on all this time. And dPoW is a vital part for this as it enables securing otherwise weak chains that wouldnt be secure enough to store any significant value.

Combined with iguana that speaks bitcoin protocol and can interface to many coins at once and atomic cross chain exchanges, a network of bitcoin secured chains that can atomic swap with any other is created. In order to reduce the friction of these cross chain swaps, funded Liquidity Provider nodes are needed. The advantage is that instead of having to wait for a day (or more) for side chains, the swaps can be done within a few coin confirmations (even less for low value swaps)

Maybe someone with graphic skills that can understand the overall architecture can present this information in a graphic? I do not have these graphics skills.

698  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][KMD][dPoW] Komodo ICO - Zero Knowledge Privacy Secured by Bitcoin on: September 07, 2016, 03:22:36 AM
Hi guys i got a question. Will komodo use the btc blockchain similar to factom?
factom's factoids allow anybody to store data in BTC chain via using a data layer, which is a nice thing to plug into existing corporate infrastructure.

however it is not decentralized so you have the problem of whose data do the other nodes rely on. The elected notary nodes solves this issue and as a group they are writing data to the BTC blockchain.

So in a way it is similar, komodo is using a consensus based notary group writing to the BTC blockchain directly. I have no need of a data layer to write to the BTC chain.

699  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][KMD][dPoW] Komodo ICO - Zero Knowledge Privacy Secured by Bitcoin on: September 07, 2016, 01:54:28 AM
Thank you for the FAQ. To confirm: BTCD submitted for swap will be credited as Komodo IN THE ICO USER ACCOUNT area, for withdrawal as normal afterwards?
If this is the case, BTCD holders will need to open an account before the ICO is over, or else ICO account creation will need to continue after funds are no longer being collected.
Just useful to clarify these points, thanks.
Close.

The BTCD swap process is different, so we want to deploy a modified ICO site that handles redeems to a different address. This allows privacy oriented people to just combine all their outputs to one of their addresses and then redeem from that address to receive komodo at the corresponding address.

In order to support withdrawing from an exchange address and get credit at any specified address, you are correct, we would need to make a login site to handle this. This might not be available immediately after the ICO, but it has most usefulness after exchange trading has started as then you can register your exchange deposit address, get a redeem address and withdraw from exchange to the redeem address and get back komodo in the exchange. All without any local wallet or blockchain.

Since there is a one year redemption period, there isnt the extreme time urgency for this, so it will likely be done as we can get it done without impacting the time critical things. This means if you want to swap in the fastest way, please use your local BTCD address.
700  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][KMD][dPoW] Komodo ICO - Zero Knowledge Privacy Secured by Bitcoin on: September 07, 2016, 01:48:05 AM
Just one sincere thing James:

I understand that you cannot value BTCD at X10 of current prices for the ico, but the value of 0.0053 seems to me too low. Lots of people have trust in you all this time, buying lots of BTCD upper that level, and I think they deserve a bigger reward from you.

I'm not telling to value BTCD at X10, but the current valuation is too low.

Always remember the ones who have been loyal and benefit them, that's a key rule in finance man...

but why would anyone invest in btc than?

I think you can look at the age of the input. Anything in an address older than the swap announce gets the higher rate. The believers.

It's certainly possible to do this. Not that anyone is really owed anything. Investing in crypto coin is a 100% at risk endeavor.

staking uses up all the coinage, so all active stakers wont have any long coinage.
however, this is a good idea. It would be possible to trace back to how long the funds have been in an address.

Unfortunately I dont have time to work on such analysis, so if people continue to expect me to do everything including this, then it will cause delays. If there is just an analysis, we can consider allocating a long term holder's bonus in the event the ICO sells out.

However, until there is such an analysis made, it is a moot point and without the analysis we cant even evaluate the amount of funds that would be required. The biggest time will be how to allocate rewards based on this long term holding. Clearly I am not the one to determine this.

So, if BTCD people want something like this there needs to be an analysis done, and a proposed way to allocate X amount of bonus. Then and only then can I assess it with the understanding that it has to fit into the ICO process, which means to be triggered at the high end of funds raised.
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