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681  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 06, 2014, 02:22:55 PM
Wow...did anyone bother to read my post?
Am I missing something or is it fine for an exchange to allow its users to place orders without funds to back them?

I think many understand the exchanges are run by folks who do not know how to properly run exchanges and are therefore unsurprised. The surprise for me was they apparently admitted it to you.
682  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 05, 2014, 04:07:20 PM
This thread too is being manipulated, of course.  And most of the posts here are copied over from the Chinese bitcoin forum by arbitrage trolls; so that the level of silliness and pontification ends up being the same on both sides.  Wink

There are definitely bots inflating the post volume as well. I wonder what the ACTUAL post amount is, and whether this thread is over-valued.
683  Economy / Speculation / Re: Automated posting on: February 04, 2014, 03:34:29 PM
Moon is a moving target

Cool graphic. Reminds me of Spirograph.
684  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 04, 2014, 02:37:48 PM
The 2011 bubble was ~3000%  (from $1 to $32), the early 2013 bubble was ~1500% (from $13 to $260), and only the last rally was 600% (from $200 to $1200).  

For a while this ballpark scenario seemed plausible but now I don't think a continuation of it accounts for S-curve adoption, should that happen. Would be interesting if the U.S. kept DPR's coins instead of auctioning so they could bootstrap U.S. gov exchanges: http://www.bloomberg.com/video/can-bitcoin-save-the-post-office-iQx5kWnzQI~iWL2ZmNNm0A.html
685  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 03, 2014, 07:28:27 PM
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Oh shit. End of BTCe confirmed. Goodbye alt pumps.
.....anything to this?

No worries. We've recently learned price does not go up or down, it merely pivots around $817.

Boy: The BTC price does not bend. That's impossible. Instead only try to realize the truth.
Neo: What truth?
Boy: There are no price changes.
Neo: No price changes?!?
Boy: Then you'll see that it is not the price that bends but only eternally pivots around $817.
686  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 02, 2014, 03:37:49 PM
you should not stick your cigar into the same opening where you poured the water in.

This is practical dating advice as well.
687  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 02, 2014, 03:35:32 PM
I am not trading from these charts anyway , I am a fundamentals guy...
A fundamentals guy. Got it. This must be why you're defensive about charts you took such effort to create. I may be in the market for bone divination if you accept Bitcoin.


SO the price was stuck there $817 for around 12 hours (now almost 24 hours)
Except the Bitchslap price *hasn't* been stuck at 817 for 24 hours. It hasn't been anywhere near stuck at any price except during their maintenance period. You'd have been better off telling me it would be stuck at 824.4 during maintenance, but you couldn't even guess that correctly even though they announced the maintenance ahead of time. Unfortunately not only can't you tell the future but you seem to have trouble faking it even when given a leg up. But don't feel bad, no human can see the future with better odds than luck provides.


Added to that I have stated yesterday that we a trading sideways at around $820-$ 825
I thought we were stuck at 817?


Added to that I have stated yesterday that we a trading sideways at around $820-$ 825, I also stated that I see us going up form here , but that there are downside supports, and I have stated the levels going in both directions that I see resistance and psychological resistance and support...
Careful, you're heading toward intellectual honesty. "It could go up, down or sideways."


I am basing the figures on FIBBONANCI RETRACEMENTS VOODOO (a form of TA that I did not invent by the way)
FTFY


and I say that this is only valid if the breakout occurs now, or within the next few weeks.
So you'd like a month for your fortune telling to come to fruition? That's some mad solid skillz you gotz. I would think if you're so into fundamentals plus TA you might be able to narrow the time frame down to some specific times and dates. Silly me.


So basically  I posted a scenario and so far it  as played out...
Except it didn't. You've deluded yourself into thinking it did. Are you sure you don't believe in this stuff as you claim? You're just posting it for fun, right? You're a fundamentals guy, right?


the "magic price"  could have traded to ANYTHING in the last 24 hours but it has not.
The price, which is anything but magical, did trade at various price in the last 24 hours. If you can tell the future you should be able to help Bitcoinity out by providing them with all their charts into next year.


What I was trying to point out is there MAY be some resistance points around fib retracement lines.... so I posted the retracement lines, and their pivot points...  out of interest…  on this price movement and speculation thread..
What's happening here is that you're human and you think you saw some pattern in the chaos. The intellectual side of you understands it is bullshit, but yet, you saw a pattern and being intellectually curious want to understand why. So you learn a little about TA fortune telling and it seems to make some sense, strengthening the bias toward the patterns you see. Now you see even MORE patterns: confirmation bias.

In an effort to gain some confidence and seek approval from peers you posted your confirmed nonsense "just for fun". A bit concerned about posting your brave new astrology TA discoveries, you were sure to tell us up front you're just kidding around, you still believe in "fundamentals." Yet you vigorously defend your star price data even though it is plainly vague and downright wrong approximately 50% of the time. I guess I should say 66% since the price can always go up, down or sideway, making any guess @33% correct.


I have used in the PM market to sucess myelf (sometimes)
And many times not, though I'm sure you don't count the losses.


and seen it used  a lot by old timer traders that have been in the game trading for 30/40 years
If these old timers knew the future why have they been trading for an entire career only to retire with less money than Bill Gates? Surely if their voodoo worked they would all be the wealthiest people on the planet solely from trading precognition. They could publish their precognition rules and any human would be able to follow these rules and become the wealthiest people on the planet. Strangely this hasn't happened.


I can just go back to posting pictures of flying trains... choo choo, my kid likes it when I make the noise.. oh how he loves it,  maybe I shall get him to post (he would probably be as accurate as most here, myself included ; )
As annoying as that all can be at least it has the honesty of emotion, hopes, dreams, without trying to call it "science" which is what TA proposes (always with a hedge of course). The hedge is necessary because it's all horse pucks. Go ahead, give us another "channel" that might go up, down or sideway within a few weeks.


it was as I say a bit of fun, and I just wanted to use them buzzwords I think.
I haven't even seen you post a lot of this TA gibberish, I've just been watching many folks post this nonsense for so long and you happened to catch me at a bad time I guess. I've watched America be mired in superstition for so long, I just feel like enough is enough even in this international forum. Anyway, onward with your TA and buzzword usage, or CCMF and all that. I'll leave you alone now.
688  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 02, 2014, 06:24:25 AM
No argument for me..I am expecting up as I say... just noting that the $817 level I pointed out yesterday as being a potential resistance/pivot/support  level has indeed done so for the past 12 hours baring minor dips out but not out of the channels...  I am going to continue to track the pivots and levels I have posted and see how they continue to play out... as a bit o fun

LOL... u guessed 20 numbers between 725-991, added "-ish" to those numbers, called this a "channel" and now claim victory that the price hovered around one of your "-ish" guesses for 3 hours. On top of that you said "i expect it to go up but it could go sideways and here are some lower prices in case it falls."

Quick, sign me up for your newsletter, Nostradamus. Care to give us another $250 range guess in quatrain?
689  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 01, 2014, 03:58:01 PM
there really are patterns everywhere.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apophenia
http://www.ted.com/talks/michael_shermer_the_pattern_behind_self_deception.html
690  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 31, 2014, 01:50:37 AM
Sorry, New York! Shoulda used Bitcoin instead of that dirty cash!
http://www.dnainfo.com/new-york/20140130/midtown/millions-of-dollars-phony-100-bllls-flooding-big-apple
691  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 31, 2014, 01:49:11 AM
Wouldn't this be a sweet use for BTC? Like stepping into the future...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=qmHwXf8JUOw

Too bad dinosaurs are still braying at meteors...
http://www.breitbart.com/InstaBlog/2014/01/30/FAA-Stops-Beer-Drone-Delivery

Oh yeah, look at that price. Will it go up, down or sideways?
692  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 30, 2014, 06:56:02 PM
Do you have kids? I think that may have some impact on your calculations. Smiley

I find this part about the family a little odd in that implies one's family would care more about the Bitcoins than dad's/husband's life. I guess it varies from family to family. Surely most of us want to provide for our family however if someone were being tortured I imagine the animal instinct of self-preservation would kick in whether we feel warm and fuzzy about it or not.

If you have a stash and you are the only one with the password but even you "can't access it" and you are killed, who will be able to get the stash? If the stash requires multiple signatures and one of the parties dies with the password, who gets the stash?
693  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 30, 2014, 06:15:19 PM
Ulbricht didn't suffer a wrench attack.

Why would you state this as fact having no knowledge of its veracity, the same way you assert he had poor security?
694  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 30, 2014, 05:47:28 PM
The U.S. government confiscated DPR's Bitcoins.

I think you mean Ross Ulbricht's coins?  Poor password security.

So should it come to your stash you'd be much smarter and more secure, eh? And you're impervious to a $5 wrench?
695  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 30, 2014, 05:33:16 PM
The U.S. Government stole most of the private gold held by Americans in 1933. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_Order_6102 The precedent was set and they could easily do it again. Good luck trying to steal bitcoins. Private keys? What private keys? I lost/destroyed/exposed/ate them. Good luck hiding gold in a brain wallet.

The U.S. government confiscated DPR's Bitcoins.
696  Economy / Speculation / Re: NY Hearings - lets live blog this puppy : - ) on: January 30, 2014, 04:40:34 AM
what is mastercharge ,please
as a foreigner i don`t know this idiom

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=what+is+mastercharge
The reference to MasterCharge further reveals the BearTrollFedFUDster panelist as a dinosaur since MasterCard stopped being known as MasterCharge in 1979.
697  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 29, 2014, 09:30:36 PM
Who invited MatTheCat to that panel? Tongue

My first thought was, "maybe this is Nagle or Proudhon who somehow got past security and are trolling away."
698  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 29, 2014, 09:28:29 PM
Poor fellow sitting in between Ripple Shill and Bear Troll...
699  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 29, 2014, 05:58:30 PM
I think the regulators just got the picture on the effect Bitcoin could have on banks. Interesting to see the light bulb go on.
700  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 29, 2014, 05:22:29 PM
I don't have any specific knowledge of the process but here are some answers as I see it....


As a non american, can someone explain what these hearings are for

The hearings are for the New York state government's regulating body to learn more about (virtual) crypto-currency so they may understand it better as a whole before deciding whether it specifically needs more law/regulations concerning it. This government body asked "representatives" from law enforcement, commerce, and academia to publically testify and answer questions to this end.


how they play in to the US legislative system?

New York state is an important financial center for the Unites States and arguably the world.


Who is the intended audience (other than curious bitcoin holders) of these hearings?

Well, theoretically it's for New York residents, however because NY is so important understandably the world may be curious. How New York decides financial regulations is understood to possibly affect how other states may act, and even possibly federal actions.


Why are they being held in New York, not Washington, and what's the relevance of that?

Washington DC is important federally (for the country); New York is important regionally (state). However since this is financial regulation within New York state it could be construed as important not only federally but globally since arguably some other countries may look to the U.S. regarding financial regulation.


Also, what's the output from these hearings?

The output is uncertain. It could lead to new law, amended law, or nothing. If nothing else it certainly is serving to help government better understand how important Bitcoin is.


Will the chair/judge(?) produce some kind of report with conclusions?

I would assume there is a 100% likelihood some document would result from this hearing however conclusions may come as proposed laws/amendments. I would guess it's possible if they decide not to act at all they may issue a statement to that effect.
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