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681  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [CLOAK] Cloakcoin | No Premine | X13 | Decentralized Market and PoSA on: August 13, 2014, 10:04:02 PM
Time to start dumping again. Get your troll vests on they are coming.

And you are being moved down the Rich list as exchanges create new addresses to store all the coins being sent to Mintpal and bittrex.

I've actually moved up in the rich list without touching a single coin.

So some people sent coins to an exchange and their addresses moved below yours and those coins moved into 1 exchange wallet. Panic is in the air.
682  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [CLOAK] Cloakcoin | No Premine | X13 | Decentralized Market and PoSA on: August 13, 2014, 09:27:18 PM
Time to start dumping again. Get your troll vests on they are coming.

And you are being moved down the Rich list as exchanges create new addresses to store all the coins being sent to Mintpal and bittrex.
683  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [CLOAK] Cloakcoin | No Premine | X13 | Decentralized Market and PoSA on: August 13, 2014, 02:51:08 AM
I think it's pretty obvious now that the pump group has dumped this coin.   Now we are down to 25th on the coinmarketcap.   Wish I got out a bit earlier.   All the top coin holders kept saying cheap cheap cheap.   Bunch of friggin liars.   Telling us to buy/hold while they are dumping on us.  

To be honest, I am not sure why anyone would be surprised. The simple fact that Bob was pushing this coin so hard should have been a big tipoff. And when he took a 'cloak break'... sort of a big tipoff that it's time to get out.

If the devs deliver, the coin may still do well. So this isn't meant to be a fud type of post. I'm just surprised that some people didn't see what was eventually coming.

This time it will be different!

Oh how many times have I heard that over the months.

At least we know there is enough money around still to do a nice pump and dump every once in awhile.

Buy high, sell low.
684  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | RC4 Testing on: August 13, 2014, 02:44:13 AM
Anybody know anything about this

BITCOINDARK

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=684090.0

I know that it promises big things with a low amount of coins and people are excited enough to give it a nice pump recently. Things are most likely priced in now and everyone is waiting on them to deliver.
685  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [CLOAK] Cloakcoin | No Premine | X13 | Decentralized Market and PoSA on: August 13, 2014, 01:42:18 AM
A bit off topic, but does anyone know how to spot fake volume? What are the signs? I mean fake volume in the sence when people buy and sell coins to themselves to make it look like its being traded more than it really is. Thanks.

I'd like to know thoughts on this too. I don't see it being too far off topic[since it may be happening] but it might make a nice topic of its own.

It really depends. High volume market or not. Do they do random large buys or a constant small orders. Does the coin have high volume or not.

Right now if a coin on Bittrex is in the hundreds of btc volume range I'm pretty sure a lot of it is fake. SDC for example went from 1k to 40k in a short amount of time. Only way to do that is buy your own orders to give people the impression there is demand. Then the whale sets their buy orders for support and new people add their buy orders above it and the whale(s) dump for 30x profit.

Sometimes you can look in the market history and see 10btc buy or sell randomly. Most likely their own.

Sometimes you see in the chart that someone was buying / selling all day which is most likely a bot buying own orders to get people to either dump or buy their orders through out the day.

Other people will have other thoughts. Just watch the orderbooks and if you see something that makes you go why the fuck would someone do that or you wonder why a large order just popped up and got bought or sold into right away then it's their own.
686  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [CLOAK] Cloakcoin | No Premine | X13 | Decentralized Market and PoSA on: August 13, 2014, 12:49:11 AM
I think it's pretty obvious now that the pump group has dumped this coin.   Now we are down to 25th on the coinmarketcap.   Wish I got out a bit earlier.   All the top coin holders kept saying cheap cheap cheap.   Bunch of friggin liars.   Telling us to buy/hold while they are dumping on us.   

One person figured this out. These whales buying between 20k and 40k can continue dumping all the way down but will stop sometimes to let price go up a bit so they can dump a bit more. Would you rather have thousands of bitcoins or cloakcoins longterm.

Wow, check out ShadowCoin guys... first full mobile wallet that supports staking, p2p encrypted messaging, and stealth transfers. 

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=700087.msg8321871#msg8321871

It's cool but to show everyone the state of alts right now even something cool and even something almost everyone can use gives the coin weak buy support and no new buyers because everyone already bought in and now they are stuck bagholding.
687  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [KEY] KeyCoin | Fair Launch | Daily Updates | 8/12 Update - Moderated on: August 12, 2014, 10:51:37 PM
People keep dumping into the buy orders that keep appearing. That can't go on forever so just wait it out and soon the weak hands will have empty bags.
688  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [CLOAK] Cloakcoin | No Premine | X13 | Decentralized Market and PoSA on: August 12, 2014, 10:35:28 PM
Was fun while cloak lasted.

Similar has been said each time there has been a sell off but yet Cloak has bounced back to make a new ATH each and every time. So for some reason this one is different though? Show me a more dedicated development team and fairly launched coin.
Yea... from him lol, check his recent posts, he just spams fud

The price is dipping to laughable levels though... You must admit
Defiantly laughable, in terms of what cloak is worth.

CLOAK is worth what the current price is. People say it is worth this and that but it's all in your head.

99% of people commenting have no fucking clue about this stuff.

This is what you get for driving all the volume away from bittrex and to a dead site called Mintpal.

And if in a few months to a year this coin will be so popular that buying hundreds of btc worth now is a good idea. Yet no one wants to put up buy walls. People are looking the other way and keep saying everything will be OK because I believe in the anonymous devs to take care of me.
689  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][VRC] | VeriCoin | POS - NSDI | VeriBit | VeriSend | VeriSMS on: August 12, 2014, 06:22:31 PM
Wow, I'm not sure who sold yesterday but I can tell you for sure, the Top 100 didn't budge. Shocked

I improved my block report a bit, just sharing my research. This report shows all coin changes for the past 24 hours using data from the VRC the block explorer.

Vericoin Block Report 12 Aug 2014
Hosted on Google Docs
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0BzVARBcPJtt_a1I5NmlGYThlMHM

VRC address links work for addresses, so you can verify transactions.

Top 100 Increased their holdings 20,724 VRC
Top 100 sold 0 VRC
Total coins received from interest payments 418
1 exchange account identified

Do your own research before jumping out of the boat guys... I think this boat's got wings.  Grin

You need better exchange detection skills. The people selling already have their coins on the exchange. There are numerous exchange wallets on the top.
690  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SDC] ShadowCoin | ShadowChat [EM] | ShadowSend [Anon] | ShadowGo [Mobile] on: August 12, 2014, 05:45:17 PM
Can't believe people are selling now.

Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

Thanks for filling my buy orders! I was about to remove it.

Yeah If figured people would be buying instead of selling? With new app coming out today? Dont make sense. Maybe after the app releases.

I dumped a few hours ago before all the buy support got taken down. Most people sell on the news I sell at the end of buying on the rumor.
691  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [CLOAK] Cloakcoin | No Premine | X13 | Decentralized Market and PoSA on: August 12, 2014, 12:45:32 PM
Another reason why CLOAK goes down. Instead of waiting on OneMarket just sell for BTC and use the BTC to buy a gift card and buy whatever you want.
692  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [CLOAK] Cloakcoin | No Premine | X13 | Decentralized Market and PoSA on: August 12, 2014, 06:49:48 AM
You idiots believe anything without looking.

Mintpal is the main exchange right now. Price is tanking for no reason. Just some panic sellers.

Mintpal goes under 100k at 1940 then 2 hours later at 2125 someone sells a bunch and price drops to 94k. At 2155 it drops to 84k.

Bittrex drops under 100k down to 97k at 2150. At 2200 it drops to 91k. 2210 it drops to 88k

As you can see it takes many minutes later for Bittrex to catch up to Mintpal because no one wants to dump.

Are people really believing that people are in the trollbox on Bittrex and then dumping on Mintpal because of what they are reading? CLOAK holders on bittrex are strong because it took awhile before anyone started dumping into the buy walls. I'm sure people were only dumping because Mintpal was so low.

But anyways. Go to lazycoin. No clue why people would trade on an exchange with the word "lazy" in it.

Misguided accusations. Just a bunch of butthurt cloakheads.
693  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][VRC] | VeriCoin | POS - NSDI | VeriBit | VeriSend | VeriSMS on: August 12, 2014, 01:23:49 AM
Yes, you could be right, I realize that even a blockchian 2 feature could be irrelevant. I thought perhaps a smartly presented blockchain 2 feature could help, that's why I am banging on about the white paper to see what the devs are capable to come up before I dump my +300K coins, which I am very close to start to dump, because this thing looks really hopeless.

Dang 300k!! You may be able to get 2-4btcs for that. Unless you wait then maybe 1-2btc.
694  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [CLOAK] Cloakcoin | No Premine | X13 | Decentralized Market and PoSA on: August 12, 2014, 01:08:23 AM
Whales buy cheap. Wait for good news. They pump and add support to keep the price looking like it'll stay up. New buyers come in and whales start dumping on them. New buyers add support to catch cheap coins. Whales continue to dump. Eventually whales got out what they put in + some more. Bagholders end up dumping on each other till they run out of bitcoins. Whales never return. Rinse and repeat on another coin.

And investors have options now. It isn't just a couple coins (like BTC, LTC, NMC, PPC). Mining in 7 days, no more mining now, price has been pumped and dumped. People can look else where and not just settle for CLOAK because it's the only coin.
695  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][VRC] | VeriCoin | POS - NSDI | VeriBit | VeriSend | VeriSMS on: August 12, 2014, 12:34:00 AM
Black Halo isn't helping BC. I don't think anything will help VRC.

People dumping crapcoins all around. BC, DOGE, LTC and VRC keeps falling.
696  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [CLOAK] Cloakcoin | No Premine | X13 | Decentralized Market and PoSA on: August 11, 2014, 09:59:59 PM
I see an entire different group of people here than when Cloak first started  Roll Eyes

I'm still here along with familiar faces in IRC.  Probably people gave up posting on this low quality forum due to the nonstop FUD (still happening now).  

Only an idiot would buy this coin?  I challenge you to show me 1 coin with more promising features already delivered and with better features that are in the works for a bargain price like right now =p.


SUPERCOIN.
Remember this quote within 1 month.

Can add syscoin to the list. Will have under a million dollar market cap at launch. Open source too at launch with different features in addition to the decentralize market place. Will have escrow once it is ready to be added. Launches Saturday though so not out yet. VIA and RZR too not sure when they launch.
697  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [CLOAK] Cloakcoin | No Premine | X13 | Decentralized Market and PoSA on: August 11, 2014, 09:43:20 PM
I see an entire different group of people here than when Cloak first started  Roll Eyes

All the late comers trying to save their investment. The more you buy the slower it goes down and the less pain you feel.
698  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [CLOAK] Cloakcoin | No Premine | X13 | Decentralized Market and PoSA on: August 11, 2014, 05:09:36 AM
this thread turning into bagholders crying about whales manipulation... doesn't sound good

I got some great advice. Buy more so the price goes down slower.
699  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | RC4 Testing on: August 11, 2014, 03:21:05 AM
After all that has happened people are OK with letting 400k darkcoins sit on Mintpal.

4000 btc worth people are not keeping in their wallet. Crazy. Soon that could be 8000 worth of btc Mintpal holds in dark.

If you have thousands on Mintpal why not move a few?
700  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | RC4 Testing on: August 10, 2014, 10:23:29 PM
Everyone knew RC4 was coming. Whales gonna use this as a way to unload some more coins on new investors. Lets just hope I can make a little bit on the panic buying.
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