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681  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: MAC 10.7 11A390 Lion Bitcoin 3.20 error on: February 27, 2011, 06:02:22 AM
that double receive is well over 6 confirms now.
I guess one of them might be a commission pay.
time stamp (to the minute, is there a way to view sec) and payment amount is the same its only .02 BTC
682  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin's immunity to government action on: February 27, 2011, 05:56:20 AM
Search for a description of a 'phyle', and let us know if this is close to what you are imagining.

I presume you mean the Neal Stephenson definition, and not the Wikipedia definition. The former will take much more research. Smiley

the wikipedia version seems to be of about geographic division, this is a small part of what I'm thinking, but only because people who live in proximity are likely to agree on similar things since they were brought up that way.  and is a good way to organize down to the individual if needed.  

Neal Stephenson version,- The Diamond Age, I have skimmed over the article at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Diamond_Age  and read the phyle section in full along with other portions.  Looks like the book could be a good read...  This seems to be more on track of what I'm thinking.  It does not complete my thoughts though.

Part of the thought is to create a system from scratch using the good parts of various systems in place, and other ideas that are good but may not be in place yet.  This system can adapt more quickly with out as much mess, and can be more open to the public on what is going on.  

A method of secure anonymous voting would need to be implemented along with many other.  I have only thought about this in my spare time, and never really wrote anything down until now.  Got tired of doing nothing about it.  And was somewhat inspired by recent events in Egypt, and certain (non childish- first aid, dial up access...) efforts of Anonymous.
683  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin's immunity to government action on: February 27, 2011, 04:39:51 AM
I think of it as putting out the fire that has spread to the living room, removing the old fireplace, and putting in a newer safer more effecient one.

You didn't explain why we need the government.

I'm not sure I can explain why we need government.

As i see it there are two major categories of useful things a government does, That makes a government useful, Generally Agreed on Acceptable Behavior, and Public Service type programs.  There may be other I can't think of or don't know of.

Maybe a government is not what I'm looking to create, but a way to and inform others of what rules people wish to live by, and have protect.  If the whole can agree by two differing rules,  they can be accepted as Option 1, and 2  One group may select option 1, while another selects option 2.  Additional options can be created as needed.  If a certain group would like to live a certain way that other groups may not want to live, but no one sees any harm in it than it is allowable.

Governments have some useful programs, other programs are a waste.  I would like to see the useful ones optimized to do its best, and the wasteful ones either ended or fixed.  I can't think of any government programs that everyone would agree is useful,  But I would rather see a properly formed government maintaining certain things, rather than private individuals, or companies who only care about the immediate  profit, and not long term. 

If the best way really is to have no government than that is how it should be, but as it is today I don't think it is likely.  I have a dream of document that everyone can say, it is has what they want. it would give a possibility for both sides to compromise and get what they want, instead of nothing, or something in the middle, I know contradicts itself but there are various options to select.  I would like to see a document set up that the people can agree on, then take to the government and say these are the rule we will live by, adopt it, or be ignored.  We will live by it either way.

Individuals should not fear Government, Government should fear Individuals.  What do you do when the Government no loger fears an individual?  What does the Government fear?  Government does not fear individuals, it fears groups of people who join together to form a ____.

I thought more people would agree with me, maybe I haven't expressed my thoughts well enough.  My thoughts on this are difficult to explain,  as there are many complex parts, much like bitcoin, and I don't really have a complete vision since it requires everyones thoughts. Maybe I should check with a different group of openminded people.  I have made some changes based on your criticisms.  So far no one seems to like the idea.  The Base of the Idea is to have a Government formed in wiki with a few of the base thoughts I have seeded, but they are only there as a seed to give ideas, to get others to change as they see fit.  If you don't like the ideas change them to what you think is better.  I have set up a captcha and unlocked from new/anon.
684  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / MAC 10.7 11A390 Lion Bitcoin 3.20 error on: February 27, 2011, 02:42:18 AM
Internal Error
An uncaught exception was raised. Choose "Continue" to continue
running in an inconsistent state.  Chose "Crash" to halt the application and file a bug with Crash Reporter.  Choosing "Crash" will result in the loss of all unsaved data.

After pressing cointinue everything seems to be ok.

Generating shows ~1000 khash/sec normal for my machine.  I live this off normally since it'll take months to get 1 block. at this rate

tested a send and recieve. send went, My recieve is a double, but only 1 confirmation earch at this time, I'm guessing that will clear up in under an hr, unless thats an error with bitcoin bet.  I'll update when it hits 6 confirms

I have not tried compiling bitcoin with the 10.7 SDK, I wonder if that will fix things.

I also hit crash to send a crash report to apple.

Here is wat I get under show details

aException Name: NSInvalidArgumentException
Description: _createMenuRef called with existing principal MenuRef already associated with menu
User Info: (null)

0   CoreFoundation                      0x00007fff8b9efe66 __exceptionPreprocess + 198
1   libobjc.A.dylib                     0x00007fff83bbfdca objc_exception_throw + 43
2   CoreFoundation                      0x00007fff8b9efc9a +[NSException raise:format:arguments:] + 106
3   CoreFoundation                      0x00007fff8b9efc24 +[NSException raise:format:] + 116
4   AppKit                              0x00007fff85d6603f -[NSCarbonMenuImpl _createMenuRef] + 64
5   AppKit                              0x00007fff85d659aa -[NSCarbonMenuImpl _instantiateCarbonMenu] + 148
6   AppKit                              0x00007fff85d30a21 -[NSApplication finishLaunching] + 846
7   AppKit                              0x00007fff85d303e5 -[NSApplication run] + 111
8   bitcoin                             0x00000001001e7253 _ZN29wxDisclosureTriangleCocoaImplD1Ev + 3667
9   bitcoin                             0x00000001003570e1 _ZN22wxMimeTypesManagerImpl6UtiMapixERK8wxString + 8865
10  bitcoin                             0x00000001002aac48 _ZNK26wxAnyValueTypeImplwxString12ConvertValueERK16wxAnyValueBufferP14wxAnyValu eTypeRS0_ + 1784
11  bitcoin                             0x00000001001b9d77 _ZN21wxICONResourceHandlerD1Ev + 1575
12  bitcoin                             0x0000000100308d2d _ZN11wxHashTableD1Ev + 7485
13  bitcoin                             0x00000001000f68a4 _Z10ExitThreadj + 30692
14  bitcoin                             0x0000000100035eb4 _ZNSt8_Rb_treeISsSsSt9_IdentityISsESt4lessISsESaISsEE8_M_eraseEPSt13_Rb_tree_no deISsE + 26100
15  Huh                                 0x0000000000000002 0x0 + 2
685  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin's immunity to government action on: February 26, 2011, 10:15:07 PM
I invite the bitcoin community to assist in the creation of a new government
bitcoin is of course the currency of this new government.
My ideals go along with most of this community.
this new government is ment for everyone and so all may not agree, but it is a work in progress. it is a wiki so it is able to adapt and change quicker than any other current government.

http://opticbit.com/phpwiki

Why, after noticing that the bed is on fire, should we stamp it out, only to start one in the sink?


I think of it as putting out the fire that has spread to the living room, removing the old fireplace, and putting in a newer safer more effecient one.
686  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin's immunity to government action on: February 26, 2011, 10:11:39 PM
I invite the bitcoin community to assist in the creation of a new government

Your web page says "We seek no control over anyone", yet "top wage earners are not to earn more than 100x their lowest wage earning employee", and licensing and permits are required after a one-year grace period.

Do you see the inherent contradication?

I know, its a work in progress, I'm not sure how to  instill all the ideals with out breaking others.
however businesses are not people, it is the business who pay the people. 
If you have a better idea fix it.
some government is needed, some type of centralized, or decentralized method to handle certain things.
I'm not sure if licenses or permits would be the right term, they are needed in the current system, maybe they arn't really needed, but some type of trust system, it is only a suggestion as I have found getting the initial funds and filling out all forms is very difficult.
687  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin's immunity to government action on: February 26, 2011, 12:14:31 PM
I invite the bitcoin community to assist in the creation of a new government
bitcoin is of course the currency of this new government.
My ideals go along with most of this community.
this new government is ment for everyone and so all may not agree, but it is a work in progress. it is a wiki so it is able to adapt and change quicker than any other current government.

http://opticbit.com/phpwiki
688  Other / Off-topic / Re: Chat with Julian Assange starting now. on: February 25, 2011, 02:09:28 AM
page not found

the information was in sweedish, chrome translated for me.
689  Other / Off-topic / Re: Freenet... IN SPAAAAAACCCCEEEEEE!!!!! on: February 25, 2011, 02:07:13 AM
Do you know Portal ?
-> problem solved. ^^

or subspace comunications
690  Other / Off-topic / Re: I have an amazing product idea... on: February 25, 2011, 01:29:41 AM

Cheap 3d prototypeing
makerbot / thing-o-matic
reprap
fab @ home

still $1000 to get one up and running
they also have links to software like autocad but free

through the various communities you can probably find someone to print something out for you.
size limits are around 6" x 6" x 6"
maybe one is nearby
some of the people in these communities have access to larger CNC machines

also check out
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hackerspace
maybe you have one thats local

maybe you can get someone to print something in exchange for bitcoins.


I like donations
1M2ykXxKaMwStGtn7N3zQTWixf3qLxYNGz
691  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Live solely off of bitcoins [Bounty of 400 BTC] on: February 25, 2011, 01:12:42 AM
I might take the challenge, but I need to figure out how to earn bitcoins first.
not sure what products or services I could provide
if you think of something let me know.
I don't have a computer powerful enough to generate any coin.
692  Other / Off-topic / Re: I have nowhere else to turn.. on: February 25, 2011, 01:08:00 AM
I don't have enough to be giving out donations.  Lost a good job over a year ago.
A rod and reel is better than a fish, but only if theres a non polluted, inhabited body of water near by. - me

here is your pond, you'll have to inhabit it with your own methods.
free hosting with blogger is good if your a coder various affilate programs should help

here is your rod n reel (mine too)  If anyone can suggest a big net I'd appreciate it.  Most of my links are on opticbit.com

CJ.com  I've done the best here mostly from ring revenue, still I've only gotten $200 and thats from signing up a few years ago, but only really working on it for 2 months about a year ago, and it finally paid off a few months ago

Amazon referrals

Google adsense

Porn nastydollars, awempire but not on blogger

I don't like ClickBank, but plenty of people seem to be reporting they are making money.  But I won't complain if I get a few bucks from a sale out of them.

bitcoin refferal bonuses

Rebate from online stores, an referral bonus
http://bitcoinbonus.com/referral/2f626a24 .1 BTC for refferal

Ponzi with bitcoins
http://fxnet.co.cc/?ref=364


porn simple as inserting your btc addy and posting the link .24 BTC for each sale
http://www.bitcoinxxx.com/main.php?affid=1J2EEwBd2rjVBwxrMGT1vaDqqw2jzKiurn
http://www.bitcoingayxxx.com/main.php?affid=1J2EEwBd2rjVBwxrMGT1vaDqqw2jzKiurn

Gamble, insert your BTC addy, but you have to gamble at least once every 30 days .01btc is acceptable
http://doubletrouble.bitcoinbet.com/?r=1FEg3wJUoXi6x2dmzSWmK39CN11KPVyoHE

I haven't made enough off any of these to make a living, but I'm not much good at coding and other profitable activities

if I can do something valuable for someone let me know



i take donations here
1M2ykXxKaMwStGtn7N3zQTWixf3qLxYNGz
693  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Earning 5 BTC A Week Challenge on: February 20, 2011, 06:16:56 AM
nothing earned yet, only spent.
694  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Pros and cons of using new Bitcoin addresses for each transaction? on: February 20, 2011, 04:22:36 AM
http://bitcoinwatch.com/http://bitcoinwatch.com/ has some of the info your looking for
695  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Bitcoin Randomizer, just a stupid pyramid scheme on: February 15, 2011, 01:18:50 PM
I make number 363
http://fxnet.co.cc/?ref=363
wish i had gotten in earlier.

140 was my sponsor
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