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681  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DigixDAO] Crowdsale campaign start on: May 11, 2016, 07:04:54 AM
WTS up to 1273 DGD for .027 btc or .98 ETH each.  

This is the cheapest price anywhere listed. Escrow only. Serious inquiries only. Pm me if interested.

"a thread that is not even being maintained by the Digix team because DGD is a ETH blockchain token, not a bitcoin blockchain asset. SMH." - windjc

then why do you try to sell your "ETH blockchain token" in this very thread? 
682  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DigixDAO] Crowdsale campaign start on: May 11, 2016, 06:55:24 AM
How is it linked to gold? What does the linking with gold consist of?

read the whitepaper... https://www.dgx.io/whitepaper.pdf

this token is not linked with gold. you can buy with token released by digix your gold. digixdao is a dao token as the name says.

will sure be interesting. the price is too high. i guess it will go under $10 mill in half a year. we should watch how much token they sell and see then the income of the digixdao.



the intrinsic value of DGD is set by the number of DGX minted. therefore i agree that the price of DGD is too high. much too high.

We officially have our first thread troll. This guy has made no attempt to join Slack, no attempt to engage discussion with development team or marketing team, has no understanding of the current strategy and says he is waiting for lower prices while posting on this thread everyday - a thread that is not even being maintained by the Digix team because DGD is a ETH blockchain token, not a bitcoin blockchain asset. SMH.

i'm not waiting for lower prices. i'm not buying. i told you that very clearly. you're the holder with a subjective motive driving your commentary.  

i'm discussing price relative to fundamentals. DGD has no relationship to gold?

683  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][LISK] Lisk | ICO | Decentralized Application & Sidechain Platform on: May 10, 2016, 08:02:40 PM
All hype in this thread comes from 5-6 paid users with 10 shill acc each. This is not serious...

coming from the guy WHO WAS JUST PAID BY HIS WAVES SIG WHORING TO TYPE THAT
LMAO

I bought equal amount Lisk and Waves(x6 BTC) and will invest same amount in DAO. All of them deserves attention. You poor guys spent your 0.1-0.2 BTC in Lisk and think you will help the project spaming and attacking everyone who dare to say something you don't like?!
Well, I don't care about you. I despise people like you. You will kill Lisk. Smiley


I may agree with you, all this hype/fud on lisk is both disruptive but also 'helpful'. Also DAO is interesting, lisk is lisk ... eth is eth and dao is dao so everything can coexist.

i don't want to disrespect the Slock DAO, but i think some of the interest in it is because it's a novel approach and therefore an unknown, but generally i don't think consensus investing works. it's a safety in numbers approach, but big returns don't normally come from that. contrarian investing is a better bet. more risky, but if right the returns are big.
684  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][slock.it][Crowdfund][DAO] IoT meets blockchain on: May 10, 2016, 07:45:59 PM
most people have by now probably decided whether they are in or out. personally i'm almost certainly out.

i wonder how long people who are in think it may take to see a tangible return on their investment?
685  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][LISK] Lisk | ICO | Decentralized Application & Sidechain Platform on: May 10, 2016, 01:49:59 PM
In Yobit Lisk has been trading double than ETH some days, once Lisk hits Poloniex  is game over.

Keep an eye on Lisk because is going the be a Big winner.

Lisk in volume has reached 1/4 of million dollars in trade, guys honestly, that is hugeeee!!! Lisk is a Black hole, even light can't escape.

Do not take it for granted, apreciate your Lisk, do not let go.
I just heard an interview, 2 crypto experts were talking about Lisk, the one who miss the ico and decide not to invest  was speachless literally,  he was saying that all this support looks very good for Lisk, he changed his mind about Lisk, he couldn't  beliave how Lisk is trading and how more and more people is trading Lisk.

Boys this 2016 will be the year of the overflow....

Its al about dapps dapps dapps

If the sky is the limit Ill see you there, if you are a lisk investor im happy to share you the link, you will be very happy to hear this. " keep an eye on lisk because seems like is going to be a big winner" good night Liskers.

Also don't worry about recognition, half of the post above is my text, 👍👍👍👍 no dramas







do you have the link to the interview?
686  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][LISK] Lisk | ICO | Decentralized Application & Sidechain Platform on: May 10, 2016, 01:47:59 PM
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Good luck

 Please keep this thread 4 lisk discussion...  btw,,, that ''rise'' doesn't look good at all....

Can you please remove your affiliate link from your post. We are not allowing affiliate links to be posted on the bitcointalk forum as it can get you banned. Thanks! Please read the terms on our website.

you're a moderator of this forum and a founder of Rise?
687  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Eth bubble is about to pop on: May 10, 2016, 01:06:26 PM
So the big Ethereum holder will try their best to make the first DAO to be successful and set a good example.

If the first DAOs succeed ETH will be priced out of its native and only market. a negative feedback loop.
688  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Eth bubble is about to pop on: May 10, 2016, 01:04:24 PM
So the big Ethereum holder will try their best to make the first DAO to be successful and set a good example.

DAOs are consensus investment funds. successful investment funds are contrarian (not consensus).
689  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][LISK] Lisk | ICO | Decentralized Application & Sidechain Platform on: May 10, 2016, 12:30:16 PM
The Lisk team will hire a public relations firm once the funds are released after a successful launch!

We already hired a PR agency, as you can see on our website. Smiley

are you in Berlin on 1st June?
690  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XEL] Elastic Project - The Decentralized Supercomputer on: May 10, 2016, 11:09:42 AM
is there an escrow?

No, I refuse using any bogus escrow service that is advertised on an internet forum. But it's your BTC to donate or not to donate, and if one of your criteria for doing so is "using an escrow" then you cannot support us.

and an escrow service not advertised on an internet forum?
691  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XEL] Elastic Project - The Decentralized Supercomputer on: May 10, 2016, 10:47:05 AM
is the ico over?

I think it's still running for another few months, but at a decreasing rate

is there an escrow?
692  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DigixDAO] Crowdsale campaign start on: May 10, 2016, 10:28:05 AM
How is it linked to gold? What does the linking with gold consist of?

read the whitepaper... https://www.dgx.io/whitepaper.pdf

this token is not linked with gold. you can buy with token released by digix your gold. digixdao is a dao token as the name says.

will sure be interesting. the price is too high. i guess it will go under $10 mill in half a year. we should watch how much token they sell and see then the income of the digixdao.



the intrinsic value of DGD is set by the number of DGX minted. therefore i agree that the price of DGD is too high. much too high.
693  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Eth bubble is about to pop on: May 10, 2016, 10:06:18 AM
Now they're using the DAO to pump it again.

Will there be many more DAO? Does that mean the Etheruem price will be pumped again and again in the future?
There's only one DAO event and it ends in 17 days time. The DAO will then accept projects and put them to the vote of all DAO holders. All DAO projects will run on the Ethereum blockchain. This is why it's so important that you all read up, understand and take action if you want to join the DAO. This is a one time only event. No point missing out.

there's the Slock DAO, but there are and will be other projects based on the same decentralised autonomous. organisation structure. buy demand for ETH could be stimulated by future DAO projects.
694  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][slock.it][Crowdfund][DAO] IoT meets blockchain on: May 10, 2016, 09:57:23 AM
Don't know if I understand  DAO right .Will lDAO in any way be a financing source for new projects/contrast?  

well it's hard to explain. you would have to read all the documentation found in this thread on the DAO and what it is.
but basically their gonna take your money and ... somehow make the tokens they sell us worth more... and then...
well idk, i dont fully understand it myself, but i mean it's built on ETH , that's the trademark isn't it? Grin

I've red documentation and I can't grasp it fully. The reason I've asked because I've had an outlandish vision that DAO could become a decentralised( or any other buzzword) platform as basket of indices on Wall street  Smiley I's a shame I don't get tis DAO to connect all dots .Well ,not all but at lest a bit more.

well it maybe could.  i guess absolutely anything that the words  "DECENTRALIZED AUTONOMOUS ORGANIZATION" brings to mind could be what          "the dao will do" . it's a crazy ambitious project.
for me i won't worry about what it does , ill treat the token as i do all ETH tokens, as a trading coin. cause that's all their is to do with them all FOR NOW. this will be the same, trust me you will have atleast a year to understand what the dao is, as it will be atleast that long till it actually comes to a head .

are you inv....donating to this?

in all honesty, so far i am not.
it's oversold to say the least
 there's a SHITPILE of tokens
it's looking centralized so far
and i am not a fan of having my btc locked for minimum 6+months. i will have the DAO tokens yes, but i don't wanna be forced to sell them IF btc hits  600+ ;p
so not really one for my personal portfolio


thanks. i agree with everything you've written, and there are so many variable factors that can influence the way this plays out over time. it's difficult to model/ impossible to model outcomes.

well exactly ;\

no each person should just figure out what works best for their own personal investment style and portfolio.

best of luck to you, thx for some intelligent convo! Grin

Guys, don't forget that you can get out of the DAO by splitting the DAO after the crowd funding ends, after 28 days. So essentially you are not risking a great thing. If you don't like the price when this thing launches, you just split it and get your 1 ETH for 100 DAOs. You will probably even make a buck or two since there will be people that will invest for 1.5 ETH for 100 DAOs. Of course, I can't guarantee that ETH price won't plunge as well compared to BTC.

In a sense, this is a first fair crowd funding ever in crypto. Absolutely no premine and you can get your money back (Ethers) when crowd funding completes. Don't forget a little risk that ETH price might plunge comparing to Bitcoin!

Above reasons are enough for me to give a shoot to this thing!

Good luck to us all anyways! Smiley

when the DAO sale closes buy demand for ETH will weaken and the price of ETH will fall back to its pre DAO price. anyone who bought ETH during the DAO sale to fund the purchase of DAO tokens will be looking at an immediate loss if they split. if they stay in they are nursing a paper loss for an unknown period of time with their coin locked in...and during the halving. only those who bought DAO tokens with ICO ETH can split and not lose money.

ETH was trading at $7+, and then shot up to $9+ when the DAO sale opened.

unless an investor has very deep pockets and can buy a substantial number of DAO tokens then he or she is going to find themselves a back seat passenger along for the ride with no influence over where things are going. he or she could decide to split, but at what cost (the ETH price at that time)?

I don't care since I have put 100 ETH into DAO that I bought in January when prices of 1 ETH were sub $1. Granted, this was about 2 BTCs worth of Ethereum at the moment of locking ETH for the DAO.

Furthermore, you are already assuming that the Ethereum price will go down surely around June 1st. Why are you so sure? One good piece of news in the next 3 weeks and the price can shoot up to 0.025. Then again one bad news and the price can head the other direction, but welcome to the world of investing since this would be nothing buy a pure speculation.

And another thing, I am about 98% sure that the alleged BTC halving pump will never happen. We are about 2 months from halving and the price is not moving at all. The block size consensus is at the dead lock and I am ready to bet anything that the halving is already priced in.

Disclaimer: I own a nice amount of BTC and ETH, about 50-50 ratio and I would like to see a Bitcoin halving pump, and ever since December - January I believed that this pump will happen surely, buy mate it's already May 10th. I have lost my faith of this pump, plain and simple.

your position means you don't need to care, but other people may not have your position and therefore their analysis of the DAO as an investment needs to be thought through very carefully. buying ETH at $9+ to fund their DAO purchase is a completely other proposition to funding DAO with ETH at ICO, or $1, or $2 prices.

unless another ICO launches in early June requiring ETH the price of ETH will fall. the spike in ETH's price at the beginning of May when the DAO opened was not a coincidence. it was clearly causal.
695  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Eth bubble is about to pop on: May 10, 2016, 09:29:24 AM
Now they're using the DAO to pump it again.

Will there be many more DAO? Does that mean the Etheruem price will be pumped again and again in the future?

there may be a succession of future DAO ETH projects created by ICO ETH whales to animate ETH price. cats have nine lives apparently.

If the Slock DAO is successful, and it make profit for the investor in long term, not just a short time bubble, it will support the Ethereum price.

yes, but it's particularly unknowable. it's hard to even have a gut feeling about whether it will be a success. it's a venture fund, and many venture funds do not make a return for their investors, even with an investment thesis and strong management.
696  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][slock.it][Crowdfund][DAO] IoT meets blockchain on: May 10, 2016, 08:23:00 AM
Don't know if I understand  DAO right .Will lDAO in any way be a financing source for new projects/contrast?  

well it's hard to explain. you would have to read all the documentation found in this thread on the DAO and what it is.
but basically their gonna take your money and ... somehow make the tokens they sell us worth more... and then...
well idk, i dont fully understand it myself, but i mean it's built on ETH , that's the trademark isn't it? Grin

I've red documentation and I can't grasp it fully. The reason I've asked because I've had an outlandish vision that DAO could become a decentralised( or any other buzzword) platform as basket of indices on Wall street  Smiley I's a shame I don't get tis DAO to connect all dots .Well ,not all but at lest a bit more.

well it maybe could.  i guess absolutely anything that the words  "DECENTRALIZED AUTONOMOUS ORGANIZATION" brings to mind could be what          "the dao will do" . it's a crazy ambitious project.
for me i won't worry about what it does , ill treat the token as i do all ETH tokens, as a trading coin. cause that's all their is to do with them all FOR NOW. this will be the same, trust me you will have atleast a year to understand what the dao is, as it will be atleast that long till it actually comes to a head .

are you inv....donating to this?

in all honesty, so far i am not.
it's oversold to say the least
 there's a SHITPILE of tokens
it's looking centralized so far
and i am not a fan of having my btc locked for minimum 6+months. i will have the DAO tokens yes, but i don't wanna be forced to sell them IF btc hits  600+ ;p
so not really one for my personal portfolio


thanks. i agree with everything you've written, and there are so many variable factors that can influence the way this plays out over time. it's difficult to model/ impossible to model outcomes.

well exactly ;\

no each person should just figure out what works best for their own personal investment style and portfolio.

best of luck to you, thx for some intelligent convo! Grin

Guys, don't forget that you can get out of the DAO by splitting the DAO after the crowd funding ends, after 28 days. So essentially you are not risking a great thing. If you don't like the price when this thing launches, you just split it and get your 1 ETH for 100 DAOs. You will probably even make a buck or two since there will be people that will invest for 1.5 ETH for 100 DAOs. Of course, I can't guarantee that ETH price won't plunge as well compared to BTC.

In a sense, this is a first fair crowd funding ever in crypto. Absolutely no premine and you can get your money back (Ethers) when crowd funding completes. Don't forget a little risk that ETH price might plunge comparing to Bitcoin!

Above reasons are enough for me to give a shoot to this thing!

Good luck to us all anyways! Smiley

when the DAO sale closes buy demand for ETH will weaken and the price of ETH will fall back to its pre DAO price. anyone who bought ETH during the DAO sale to fund the purchase of DAO tokens will be looking at an immediate loss if they split. if they stay in they are nursing a paper loss for an unknown period of time with their coin locked in...and during the halving. only those who bought DAO tokens with ICO ETH can split and not lose money.

ETH was trading at $7+, and then shot up to $9+ when the DAO sale opened.

unless an investor has very deep pockets and can buy a substantial number of DAO tokens then he or she is going to find themselves a back seat passenger along for the ride with no influence over where things are going. he or she could decide to split, but at what cost (the ETH price at that time)?
697  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Eth bubble is about to pop on: May 10, 2016, 07:59:24 AM
Now they're using the DAO to pump it again.

Will there be many more DAO? Does that mean the Etheruem price will be pumped again and again in the future?

there may be a succession of future DAO ETH projects created by ICO ETH whales to animate ETH price. cats have nine lives apparently.
698  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][slock.it][Crowdfund][DAO] IoT meets blockchain on: May 10, 2016, 07:40:37 AM
I think about buying some of this coin. Do you believe it is too early?

4 Days left until the price increase. Then it goes to 1.5 eth = 100 DAO. Right now it's 1 eth = 100 DAO.

not so. in four days time the price begins to increase by 0.05 for each new day thereafter until it levels off at 1.5 ETH/ 100 tokens for the final four days.

i still don't see where i'm making money from this project if i invest. any clues?

I have a problem with this too. It looks rather like an investing fund; ie. collects ETH and then distributes to other projects. After all, anyone could actually set up a smart contract that will act as a container for the funds of a project ICO. Is there any difference with DAO? It actually looks like a middleman, making it little more centralized in decentralized world.

it seems to me that if i invest in this i'm becoming an LP in a venture fund, but it's got the potential for chaos. there's no investment thesis. what do we do, hack the email accounts of well known and successful tech VCs and hijack their deals?
699  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][slock.it][Crowdfund][DAO] IoT meets blockchain on: May 10, 2016, 06:48:20 AM
Don't know if I understand  DAO right .Will lDAO in any way be a financing source for new projects/contrast? 

well it's hard to explain. you would have to read all the documentation found in this thread on the DAO and what it is.
but basically their gonna take your money and ... somehow make the tokens they sell us worth more... and then...
well idk, i dont fully understand it myself, but i mean it's built on ETH , that's the trademark isn't it? Grin

I've red documentation and I can't grasp it fully. The reason I've asked because I've had an outlandish vision that DAO could become a decentralised( or any other buzzword) platform as basket of indices on Wall street  Smiley I's a shame I don't get tis DAO to connect all dots .Well ,not all but at lest a bit more.

well it maybe could.  i guess absolutely anything that the words  "DECENTRALIZED AUTONOMOUS ORGANIZATION" brings to mind could be what          "the dao will do" . it's a crazy ambitious project.
for me i won't worry about what it does , ill treat the token as i do all ETH tokens, as a trading coin. cause that's all their is to do with them all FOR NOW. this will be the same, trust me you will have atleast a year to understand what the dao is, as it will be atleast that long till it actually comes to a head .

are you inv....donating to this?

in all honesty, so far i am not.
it's oversold to say the least
 there's a SHITPILE of tokens
it's looking centralized so far
and i am not a fan of having my btc locked for minimum 6+months. i will have the DAO tokens yes, but i don't wanna be forced to sell them IF btc hits  600+ ;p
so not really one for my personal portfolio


thanks. i agree with everything you've written, and there are so many variable factors that can influence the way this plays out over time. it's difficult to model/ impossible to model outcomes.
700  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][slock.it][Crowdfund][DAO] IoT meets blockchain on: May 10, 2016, 06:11:28 AM
Don't know if I understand  DAO right .Will lDAO in any way be a financing source for new projects/contrast? 

well it's hard to explain. you would have to read all the documentation found in this thread on the DAO and what it is.
but basically their gonna take your money and ... somehow make the tokens they sell us worth more... and then...
well idk, i dont fully understand it myself, but i mean it's built on ETH , that's the trademark isn't it? Grin

I've red documentation and I can't grasp it fully. The reason I've asked because I've had an outlandish vision that DAO could become a decentralised( or any other buzzword) platform as basket of indices on Wall street  Smiley I's a shame I don't get tis DAO to connect all dots .Well ,not all but at lest a bit more.

well it maybe could.  i guess absolutely anything that the words  "DECENTRALIZED AUTONOMOUS ORGANIZATION" brings to mind could be what          "the dao will do" . it's a crazy ambitious project.
for me i won't worry about what it does , ill treat the token as i do all ETH tokens, as a trading coin. cause that's all their is to do with them all FOR NOW. this will be the same, trust me you will have atleast a year to understand what the dao is, as it will be atleast that long till it actually comes to a head .

are you inv....donating to this?
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