Really?

Even though I hear what you are saying torquey porkey, this just does not seem like a very likely place (or time) to hang out for "a while" whether we are talking about another few weeks or few months.  

Sure, it could happen (just like anything could happen), but seems that there remains a wee bit too much tension in the air, including considering the 4-year fractal, too.. even though I am not saying that the four-year fractal timeline is guaranteed, either... while there seem to be some ongoing UPpity price pressures .. you might have to suffer with another 3x to 5x.. whether or not world economy does anything.. dee king (aka king daddy) is likely on a UPpity trajectory whether there are trillions printed or not... so maybe one of the ONLY question remain how long it could get delayed in these here parts, weeks? months?   For some strange reason.. just not feeling the flat that you mentioned.. not feeling it.. not feeling it.




Yet

I doubt that anyone here (who should be taken seriously) is advocating any kind of blanket or broad consumption, taking profits early.. or even the idea of promoting spending BTC at this point that we believe we are in the price cycle.... absent having had reached somewhere close to fuck you status.. so there is that angle.. and sure maybe you are either at or near FU status.  Perhaps?  perhaps?

Garbage in.... blah blah blah


One man's garbage is... blah blah blah.


nuff said.

 


No.

I agree.  Op author (aysg76) should address each of these points that you made and provide use with an explanation regarding both the reason for the chosen photos (and whether they were actual photos and why not) and the mechanics getting from meeting the supposed store owner and getting the actual interview.. including whether he recorded the interview in order to be able to exactly quote what the supposed store owner said.  Was the interview in English?  Asian location so what language?  I would not want aysg76 to compromise his own opsec or the opsec of anyone else, although I would consider that the actual store owner's accepting bitcoin may well want to attract  potential bitcoin paying customers... so should actually consider whether he was NOT wanting customers to know some of his interview answers.. which surely could be the case, too.

He be talking about bitcoin.

You heard about it?

I am considering that we might need an education campaign to start teaching peeps about dee corn.

Wow!!!!

You seem to know the future before it happens.


What a smartie pants.

No?

You seem to be saying that the top of the cycle is going to be at the end of this year?  Is it guaranteed?  How high is it going to be (I mean price)?  Do you know that part, too?

Depends on your level of confidence and also what you mean by "mega rally" exactly.

Not too many of us are mindreaders, but there are some of us, who happen to be soothsayers. wannabes

Wow!!!!!

The donkey has converted into a "we?" 

Who would have thunk?  And, I thought that one donkey was more than enuff.

A bit of an exaggeration, no?

Of course .... u be called Koreck, LFC..

Fewer coins on exchanges signifies UPpity price pressures on our lillie fiend.. rather than DOWNity pressures - due to lesser number of coins to buy and fewer coins to dump, too..

If any of us want (or fear) BTC prices to be going DOWNity in the short-term, we need to use some other facts/indicators to achieve our negative nancy wishes/fears.   #nohomo

By the way, we can see that BTC had a 19% BTC price correction (so far) in this particular price location, but I also consider such correction as a BIG so what?  Do you have more?  I am not even saying that I feel any kind of wishenings that the BTC price goes down, and of course, my wishenings are similar to yours, LFC.. UPpity is surely preferred, especially since I had largely stocked up enough BTC since late 2014..  and sure I stocked up some more in 2015 and even quite a few points in our bitcoin journeys thereafter, even from time to time in current times, even though I kind of consider myself more in a maintenance with liquidation leanings state, especially compared with my earlier(iest) of BTC days....

I am still NOT going to get too worked up about a 19% correction (so far) that seems to be lagging in around a 12%-15% correction zone (so far).. and isn't that really a correction for ants?  Sure perhaps army ants, perhaps?, but still ants, last time I checked.

We going to go down more?  I don't know.  We going to go up from here?  I don't know.  Hey, we are in the same boat.. we don't really know, and gosh it seems to me that I am putting way lower probabilities on various UPpity scenarios than you see to be, and maybe that allows me to feel some (perhaps low expectations psychology) great rewards with almost any kind of UPpity.. and hey, I am even considering possible scenarios of greater than $1.5 million per coin in this cycle.. but those odds are in the less than 1% arena.. or something like that (last time I checked my plotting out of numbers).

Anyhow, we are still in a bull market.. so what else could we hope for in terms of just sitting back, enjoying the ride, and considering our lil selfies to be amongst the luckiest fucks in the world to actually have had the opportunities to both get ahead of the traditional rich folks and to sit back and watch them scrambling in various forms of desperation and denial.   Those dynamics bring a smile to my face almost every single day, even though sometimes I feel a wee bit jaded to be making fun out of so many normies and rich folks who don't seem to hardly have any clues about bitcoin, but bitcoin no doesn't care whether they have any clues or not.

So, sure I feel that I am attempting to do my part to explain when I can and if I can, whether it is in my forum walls of text or in the real world.. and gosh, I get quite frustrated in the real world sometimes.. like holy shit, here's a somewhat hypothetical situation based on actual facts.

Me:  "I have been explaining this to you for three hours (and even repeated conversations from years and years back), and it is still hardly even sinking in at all.. holy shit, holy shit... I appreciate that you are honest with me and telling me that you don't understand x, y and z.. but we might have to take a break so I can regroup and consider if there might be some better way for me to attempt to explain or if you need to just do a bit of studying into how the world actually works rather than your lil fantasy about how the world works."

Nocoiner peep:  "I have been studying for years and years, and I still do not understand.  I just don't get it."

Me:  "Let's just take a break for now."

Nocoiner peep:  "ok"


You party poop.. and moo ruiner!  u b tryin to ruin deeeeee weekend pumpenings... wwwwwwwweeeeeee!!!!

 


You are not necessarily wrong in terms of stating some factors that might well not play out so well for the IMF.. but whatever, a lot of these matters can take a very long time.. including that the dollar might not crash in any kind of meaningful or significant way in 20 to 30 years.. but bitcoin is still go0ing to profit from the various shenanigans whether the dollar crashes or not... and likely bitcoin is better off if the dollar does not completely crash because more desperation would not likely make our lives any better when we are already having some of the seeming desperations already playing out in terms of travel restrictions and government desperations in terms of figuring out new ways to fund themselves within a world that is turning more and more to bitcoin (which is also seeming quite inevitable.. even though the timeline and even the various severities along the way are not exactly clear).


Fair enough.  Even with a lot of UPpity price pressures, we are still in the middle of a kind of war (battle) too.. so there can be some ways to frame the matter in rational ways.. including that BTC prices are lower than their actual value.. but sometimes we cannot really know for sure either (in regards to our value assessment) until some of the battle plays out for a few more years.. and in the meantime, doesn't it feel good to have a decent amount of ongoing preparation for UP?  Of course, some of our past preparations for UP have also paid off quite well.. so we do not even necessarily need to go UP from here in order to still be right, still be in a bull market and still watch how there are so many folks who believe that the bull market is over and there is also money trying to push bitcoin to prove the "bull market is over" thesis as correct.. .but golly gee whiz.. seems like some of those folks are going to get reckt or regret that they had not sufficiently pee pared their lil selfies for UP - even if UP is not guaranteed.. whether short-term, medium-term or longer-term..

but many of us still both understand some of the odds in this here asset class and are still prepared for UP just in case.. which does not even necessarily take a lot of capital to sufficiently, adequately and materially prepare for UP.... which is kind of the nature of an asymmetric bet.. and bitcoin is amongst the best (if not the best) of such asymmetric bets for any normie in these times to actually undertake.

Why does such short-term "need to" matter?

Seems like a wee bit of noise to me to get caught up in supposed and fabricated "need to"s based on short-term chart squiggly lines.

TLDR:  Paint ur lil selfie into a psychological "need to" dilemma.



You still living in a fantasylandia tokeweed in your dumbass belief that the tail really does wag ddddeeee doggie?

Those various shitcoins (and other crap related scam smoke and mirror projects) that you are praising with such enthusiasm would not even be able to operate if it were not for the security blankeeeee of dee doggie.. .. .. oh right.. tail no need doggie;.. tail can wag its lil selfie, right?  right?  amiNOTrite?  

You better be correct, ImThour - or there will be "consequences."

 


Bitcoin is not off track.

This was all planned (or at least within a quite acceptable framework).




Don't you know nuttin?

where's your link, Sayeds56?

And regarding your substantive point?  We should start worrying if BTC prices go below 200 Day MA?  I am not sure why?  We do not get kicked out of our current bull market merely if the BTC prices were to go below 200 Day MA.

You probably need to zoom out a bit if you are trying to frame at what points to potentially get worried.. even though your shorter timeframes do still seem to give some ideas about short term. .trading to the extent that anyone would be selling anything significantly  (presumably only after they have already established a decently sized accumulated BTC stash, right?)


No... "we" should not.


your statement is internally incoherent, fr4nkthetank


But I think that I understand what you are saying.. .. El Salvador is somewhat dependent upon BTC's price appreciation in order to NOT get fucked over BIG time by the IMF... and there might be some truth to that statement, but there are also quite a few variations too that likely had contributed to El Salvador's assessment that a gamble upon BTC has quite a few more benefits than it does downsides.. and sure, I hate to use the term "gamble" because El Salvador seems to be approaching some of the bitcoin implementation matter quite a bit more proactively than a mere gamble, even though many would have considered them to be quite rash and rushed in terms of how they got into BTC... .. but that might be innovative rather than a gamble.. well, at least so far, shitcoins are not too prevalent in the picture, even though we can see some shitcoins trying to get into the El Salvador picture, too.

I am going to cite you so that your charts can be shown, and yes, just like the comment from
crwth in your cited thread, you need to acknowledge that spot and future trading are different things/markets... so accordingly the charts are likely to be different... so perhaps you need to explain a wee bit moar better why there should be any concerns...   most likely nothing to see here in terms of points that you are wanting to make beyond that "shit happens" in markets.. and not everything that does not match up with a kind of precision that you expect is "insider" "manipulation".. blah blah blah.. as you titled the matter as "manipulation" in your thread, and you have absolutely no evidence for your assertion beyond what seems to be just a "feeling."


I agree, at least after the above FTFY part that was put into place. 


I actually believe that the resistance point is around $55k rather than $53k.. but sure we have already been to $53k within the past 2.5 weeks.. and so perhaps we would just be dickering around if we would be trying to suggest that there is any significant and material difference between $53k and $55k, so it is quite possible if the BTC price gets anywhere in the $53k to $55k arena it could fail to break up again, and that may well not be a bad thing.. but surely, once it does break above that range.. we are likely off to the races in terms of getting into noman's land and likely to pretty much go from $55k to $80k without too many troubles.. that's the sense that I am getting from what seems to be current BTC price pressures.. so yeah, whether it takes a couple of weeks to play out or maybe a couple of months still remains a matter of conjecture that I feel some lack of confidence in asserting before it actually happens (presuming that it will, sooner or later).


Another troll/shill in denial of King Daddy’s power... and trying to frame BTC's price performance down into some kind of narrow incoherencies.  I am sure that there are some dumb people who actually believe those kinds of simplified views of bitcoin, but if you really want to attempt to understand bitcoin's price performance better, you need to zoom out a wee bit and not get caught up upon short term noise and nonsensical explanations. 

In other words, the actions of El Salvador are small potatoes in the whole scheme of things especially if you actually attempt to take into account some of the BIGGER ideas that are contained within currently valid longer term and BIG picture BTC price prediction models such as 1) stock to flow, 2) four-year fractal and 3) exponential s-curve adoption based on Metcalfe's principles and networking effects.

A reverse bart (or an upside down bart) at this particular time would feel almost too bullish for the conceptualization of this here cat.. but never say never..

In other words, I have hardly any clue except to consider that if the direction did happen to be Uppity from here in the short-term then the climb back to various sub $55k points would be sloppening, rather than straight up.

Once we get supra $55k, if we were to get there in the next two to six weeks could thereafter logically suggest some kind of steep upwards BTC price moves, at least until $80k, and then once we get to $80k (again if we end up getting there), there could be some sub-$100k battles (resistance at various sub $100k points), perhaps..? perhaps..? but surely all of these kinds of battles could be feasibly played out before the end of the calendar year including shooting above $100k too.. perhaps shooting to $150k and then figuring out what the kind daddy gonna be doing from there (in terms of whether buy support has sufficiently been able to catch up or not in the event that we end up going there).  

Gosh.. I am starting to feel like I am speaking about a kind of fantasy rather than anything that any normal person would be expecting to happen with a possible investment (gambling asset), because I hate to attempt to describe too many legs of our journey at any one time - and surely some of the upper numbers do become more possible and feasible and even more and more realistic once getting above the lower numbers....

And, I know that a lot of folks would not really be feeling $150k as any kind of realistic blow off top, unless we were to go straight up there, but if if it takes all of the next 4 months or so to get there, then it becomes possible that we have not yet seen our blow off top, yet.. even if we were to have BTC prices hovering somewhere in the mid-$100ks-ish by the end of the year.. and if that is diddly-daddling and all of that, then we might be seeing our blow off top in 1st, 2nd or even as late as 3rd quarter of the next calendar year.



You seem quite detached.. NO wonder you continue as a beggar... rather than anyone has any way to contribute meaning in any kind of way.. whether informationally or even financial prowess with the last $20 that you have in the pocket of your broke lil dollar-worshiping ass.

Don't get too mixed up in your creation of a strawman (if you know what that is?)... There are a lot of projects that sound like good ideas, including shitcoins..

I said that I wished to participate as a way to dig at you and to test your reaction to see if you would demonstrate emotional immaturity.. as had been your history.  At the time of your earlier response, you did not, and so I was surprised, but you are showing a decent amount of emotional insecurity right now, so I am not really very surprised about that.. even if you had been able to restrain yourself in earlier times.



That's correct.


Again?  I question how you arrive at such a conclusion in regards to a project that you were proposing.  Even though it is quite likely that I would be better at such project than you (to the extent that the project requires any amount of maturity and/or competence), I have little to no inclination to attempt to carry out a somewhat vague project that you were theorizing about and throwing out some ideas in the air about.  


I did not say that, even though it is quite likely to be true.. especially after some of your latest posts attempting to demonstrate how much of a smartie panties you happen to be.

Well that's probably true that any such potentially serious and meaningful project would likely be better off in my hands as compared with yours, but still does not justify that I should take on such project, even though it likely shows that you do not really seem to be demonstrating either maturity or competence to handle anything beyond perhaps stacking the blocks in your crib.


Cold feet?  How does that work?  You create an assignment for me, and then if I tell you that I have no inclination to take such assignment, therefore I have developed cold feet?  Your logic (to the extent that it exists at all) is surely of another level, and that is not a compliment.


When you mention, "we" are you referring to the "royal we," or are you considering that there might be some other 12-year olds in the thread who happen to follow your logic? or to have belief in the supposed corner that you believe that you have trapped me within?  

You have shown that you have quite the imagination, at times.. I am not sure if your imagination is worth much of anything beyond it's possible entertainment value and perhaps having imaginary visions to be able to throw out proposals in which you have no intentions to follow through with (not that you are likely competent or mature enough anyhow).  

Regarding my "excuse," it seems that I have already addressed you on that point, which in essence was that there would be absolutely no reason for me to take on some vague project that seems to have been largely in your fantasies rather than your ability to actually carry out.. not that you should... Hopefully, you do not hurt anyone besides yourself in the process of attempting to carry out such vision/fantasy - if you were to try to make some efforts on such bitcoin education project to prove me wrong regarding your competence and maturity (if either of those actually happen to exist within you.. somewhere deep on the inside, perhaps? perhaps?).

Exactly.  You are helping to prove my point with your inabilities to attempt to stay focused.. including flippantly joking that someone else should head a project that you proposed (even though you are likely not sufficiently mature and/or competent to do so).

you are grasping at straws.. queenshitcoiner..

In one of my recent posts, when I said that I had been testing your emotions it was in regards to your asking for project volunteers (a project in which you said that you wanted to work on educating the public about bitcoin.. seemingly bitcoin maximalism type ideas), and I said that I would volunteer to work with you (surely a kind of dig attempt based on some of our then recent past interactions).. so in that regard, I was testing your response and your emotions. 

Actually, it seems to have been one of the rare times (in recent times, at least) that you had not actually reacted like a less than 12 year old child.. so I ended up being surprised by your rare demonstration of maturity.. even if it was short-lived.. including that now you are showing that you could not and should not be considered mature enough to actually head any kind of meaningful or serious project without risks of too many childish emotions coming out and likely fogging your judgement (if you have much of any?).  Maybe you will grow up, but you are surely showing some actual issues in recent times..

Oh my, Hueristic.

When I said that you were perhaps "exaggerating," I was not referring to your burning of your beard.  I never even questioned the truth of the matter of that particular assertion beyond just asserting that I thought that you were into the infliction of self-mutilations.  

My assertion that you were exaggerating was about the above particular cited comment... that I will cite for you again..

>>>>>>>Actually nothing you have ever said has nor will ever change my posting habits. j/k<<<<<<

Can you see that statement, now that I have highlighted it?


Sure... no problem with that.


Never heard of it.

Is that a kind of shitcoin?
 



Well your ongoing decisions to misquote me and to change my username within the header quotes - demonstrates your own inclinations to allow your emotions to interfere with any kind of potential useful adult (let's say someone older than 12 - not trying to insult the mature 12 year olds) message that you might be trying to send through your immature proclamation.  

Remember that dipshit lambiebambie had a tendency to engage in similar kinds of immature behaviors of fabricating quotes and then responding to them?  

Sure, I am not even saying that you guys are the same person or that your emotionalism are coming out through your posts in the same exact ways, even though there are some similarities in terms of how you seem to be trying to deal with matters through purposeful misrepresentations that you are perhaps trying to show yourself to be uniquely creative.. supposedly.. supposedly..

 - but really your "changing the words" posts seem to say quite a bit more about various ways that you are lacking in argument, substance and genuineness than it says about some possible defects that I could possibly have (if such a thing could even be possible).