hi how much for the 2 blades you have left I'm in the UK?
Ask is 0.95 each inc UK delivery and VAT Just out of curiosity, are you selling through a VAT registered entity? Yes, I am VAT registered. |
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hi how much for the 2 blades you have left I'm in the UK?
Ask is 0.95 each inc UK delivery and VAT |
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I don't understand how sending one glob of coins to one address actually sends it to or from multiple addresses?
I'm afraid its very unlikely that the FBI, or anyone else, would have the time or resources to be tracking every transaction since the coins were stolen, especially for such a small amount (yes, 8 BTC is a lot of money to an individual, and I'm sorry for OP's loss, but in the grand scheme of things its pocket change. I imagine the cost of tracking it down would be much more than 8 BTC/$2500) Surely 'tracking it down' would simply consist of a string of transactions that end up in SR seized funds? Like a stolen watch, those bitcoins should still be my property and should be reclaimable? #bitcoinlawyerwhereareyou The problem is, it will be difficult or impossible to prove exactly which coins were yours that were stolen. There's no way of knowing exactly what happened to the coins after they were stolen - maybe the thief sold them for cash on localbitcoins? Would it then be fair to go to the buyer and ask for the coins back, so that they end up taking the loss? This is different for stolen property, where you can definitively say 'this is my stolen watch, and still belongs to me'. Bitcoin is designed as a fungible currency (all bitcoins are interchangeable with one another). What you're suggesting is the equivalent of going to the bank and saying, 'someone stole my wallet last week with £100 in it, please give me £100 because I believe the thief deposited the money here'. Its a topic for debate I guess. In the UK they're considered face value cash vouchers - but not cash. Interesting, interesting. |
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Hi,
Would you consider delivery to Sydney Australia. If so could you please PM me a price for the the 2 blades with delivery?
Thanks.
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I don't understand how sending one glob of coins to one address actually sends it to or from multiple addresses?
I'm afraid its very unlikely that the FBI, or anyone else, would have the time or resources to be tracking every transaction since the coins were stolen, especially for such a small amount (yes, 8 BTC is a lot of money to an individual, and I'm sorry for OP's loss, but in the grand scheme of things its pocket change. I imagine the cost of tracking it down would be much more than 8 BTC/$2500) Surely 'tracking it down' would simply consist of a string of transactions that end up in SR seized funds? Like a stolen watch, those bitcoins should still be my property and should be reclaimable? #bitcoinlawyerwhereareyou |
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I'm not sure, I think it can be tricky to track coins through the blockchain. I'm no expert though, I'm sure it can be done by someone who knows what they're doing. But it's not always clear which coins have gone where, due to 'change addresses' - one of the things implemented in the code which I didn't understand at first, but now it makes more sense: using change addresses by default helps to obscure transaction history.
Yeah, which is why I was hoping someone 'fluent' would pop in  |
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If you followed the coins to that address, they must have ended up going to SR before it was seized. So yeah, the coins were probably spent on drugs.
I was blindly clicking, pressing the top address each time. I don't understand how sending one glob of coins to one address actually sends it to or from multiple addresses? |
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tldr: got scammed by surpbitcoin on these forums for 8 btc back in June - he then abandoned the account. I thought I'd wait a while before posting to see where exactly the coins end up. This was the transaction, sent to 1AcuVNnyKQNFZtqxQZ4CEZW7CuCGzgUVVv https://blockchain.info/tx/467f0277758cc3cd6a9df62ef57bf1cc161e61ec50f5dfeb637d5ab6ede6e6dbNow I don't understand enough technical info regarding what exactly blockchain is trying to tell me so need some help. I've clicked through to where the final 'resting place' of the coins seems to be and it appears to be the silkroad seized coins. Do you think that means the coins ended up being used for drugs? Although I could be totally misinterpreting it. Maybe the FBI could be of help (I'm in the UK). Thoughts, ideas, findings? Cheers The coins were seized by the FBI Did you follow the chain as well? I guess that's a good thing, maybe I could talk to them. |
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tldr: got scammed by surpbitcoin on these forums for 8 btc back in June - he then abandoned the account. I thought I'd wait a while before posting to see where exactly the coins end up. This was the transaction, sent to 1AcuVNnyKQNFZtqxQZ4CEZW7CuCGzgUVVv https://blockchain.info/tx/467f0277758cc3cd6a9df62ef57bf1cc161e61ec50f5dfeb637d5ab6ede6e6dbNow I don't understand enough technical info regarding what exactly blockchain is trying to tell me so need some help. I've clicked through to where the final 'resting place' of the coins seems to be and it appears to be the silkroad seized coins. Do you think that means the coins ended up being used for drugs? Although I could be totally misinterpreting it. Maybe the FBI could be of help (I'm in the UK). Thoughts, ideas, findings? Cheers |
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Why do you make these threads self moderated? It removes all credence from the thread - this is jsut what you want us to see. Let discuss openly.
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Yeah banks don't lend to VC firms. If banks wanted that kind of risk they would just invest in startups, except they don't so they don't.
Banks do invest in startups, at least in the UK. I've seen a few structured deals that start as a loan but can transition to PE. |
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... that's not break even, only if you work in USD to USD. This is btctalk though.
Yes, I meant break even (or at least almost break even) in btc, assuming about 100% monthly difficulty increase and no btc/usd change. Since if you pay in btc it's by today's rate if I am not mistaken and the price is still the same, ~$5000 edit: do you guys think i should remove my posts so not to increase orders? Nah |
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Um do you not get the concept of a corporation. I am sure he does have more $50K in personal wealth. What does that have to do with the price of tea in China?
The CORPORATION has $50K in assets and the CORPORATION has 3.6M in debt. Baring proof of fraud on the part of employees (piercing the corporate shield) the assets of the employees of a corporation are not part of the bankruptcy of a corporation.
That is kinda the whole purpose of a corporation. The CEO never listed his personal assets, he wouldn't be expected to list his personal assets, the bankruptcy has nothing to do with his personal assets.
No I exactly get the point of a corporation. Privatize gains and subsidize losses. Bankruptcy court should be illegal. Suck up your own debt can quit trying to leech from others. The sad part is that Peter probably considers himself a Libertarian. What a hypocrite. There is always a need for Ltd/LLC companies. It wasn't long ago that if your business failed, they came and took EVERYTHING you owned, everything. It left families homeless and destitute. |
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I'm glad they failed. Peter Vessenes is a jerk. Alydian was trying to cater to "old money" hoping they would jump on board and squeeze the rest of us out for Peter's own selfish gain.
At the end of the day, I'm sure their debts can be paid off easily if they can draw the bankruptcy out for a while. I'm sure Peter has more than enough BTC to cover the loss if the spot price goes higher.
Why would he do that? He likes giving away his personal wealth? It is a corporation. Baring fraud on the part of the CEO the investors claim is with the corporation, which according to the report has $50,000 in assets for $3.6M in debt. Maybe in the future they will make wiser investments. Note it was a major VC firm it isn't like they aren't capable of due diligence. He has more than $50K I bet. That is probably equipment. He's probably hiding his BTC value from the court. Hopefully it is pursued. +1. How do you magically burn through SO much cash, without anyone saying "guys hang on, something is going horrifically wrong", and then CONTINUE burning through so much cash. |
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This doesn't make sense. Surely without transmitting the found block, no transactions would be written to it and the block would just become orphaned (as would the subsequent blocks)? My technical knowledge is limited but that's what I thought.
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The thing is, we have no way to profit from a downward turn
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It seems like with current BTC value the new Jupiter may break even
... that's not break even, only if you work in USD to USD. This is btctalk though. |
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They can call their customers themselves, not illegal?
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