Too late for what?

So what's your reason for going FPGA, do you live in an expensive KWh country?

I think 28nm Artix-7 FPGA's will be available in a year or so.

Yeah, I have FPGA fever...

Actually I'm considering building a "heater" rig to have running in my summer house during winter to keep the house dry now.

Thx!

What did those rigs cost? ROI?

In which country do you live?

I'm taking your silence as a confirmation that you wasted a lot of money on those GPU rigs, and you keep wasting money on electricity every day. You can't mine on solar and wind and therefor you're part of what I call the old civilization. Tick Tack the counter is ticking.

I went with FPGA. It's silent and "environmentally more friendly".

Ok, ROI is -12%, but I'm happy with what ever you would call my 88% above, I call it interest rate because I would get like 1% for those 300 EUR in the bank (-2% with inflation) now I get 88% (86% minus inflation).

Instead of laughing at me you could share your ROI so we can have a constructive dialogue about this?

I = 300 EUR
R = 52 BTC * 6,5 USD = 338 USD = 264 EUR

Actually it's 88%

You are right! Edit 2015: NOT

What do you think will "try" to replace oil? What do you think is causing the current economical crisis? The fundamentals have been choking our civilization since the seventies but we hid it in the currencies/"exploitation of natural resources" (pollution) and now we see the unwinding of our unsustainable lifestyle.

That's why I'm betting on BTC, because anything other than old civilization fiat is good.

My rough calculus of intrest rate on FPGA is ~ ($ per bitcoin) * 10 = 65% right now.

And that's enough, I don't need another "not work" work trying to get rich to buy more things I don't need. I wan't stability and preservation = I need small scale diversification.

I also have 10+ years of Java development, and I have built my own web server and database abstraction toolkit, if you need large projects (all my projects compile in < 1 sec on the atom) and don't know how to optimize SQL post launch you are probably building it wrong way in the first place.

But you are right Atom is not for learning stuff the hard way, Atom is for when you master your trade and build your own tools. But you would be surprised of the speed of this little machine! I watch 720p flash video, no problem!

DeathAndTaxes: Ah, sorry the 1 BTC is per week.

Epoch: The ztex is great because it's silent, I don't care about getting rich, all currencies make you poor at heart! Also you only need 1 PC per 127 FPGA's = alot better than GPU mining.

enigm4: We'll see which PCB's become worthless first. My bet is that peakoil is going to make your PC's and GPU's completely obsolete. Personally I run an Atom machine at 13W for my everything PC (24/7 server AND development station) it's completely silent with a SSD.

yes, but then you only get the rebate on one chip! If you buy 1 then 4, like I will, I would understand; because then you get rebate on 4 cards!

ASIC's on the way? Who? Where? When?

Turbor 2 questions:

- Why did you buy 4 when 5 gives you a rebated price?
- Also with that serial cooling the later FPGA's gets hotter air, you could cool them in parallel no?

It takes outside air and pipes it from the inlet to the heatsink, theres a good cold flow. I know it's strange but my cables where too short. I will fix a proper sleeve when I get more FPGA's. I can heartily recommend the zalman heatsink with titan cooling paste. BTW I got really lucky with the PSU; just grabbed my GP AA/AAA chargers one.

I should be whitelisted now... but I'm not so it seems to be a manual thing!

EDIT: Ahh, yes its manual... ok patience

28nm? Where do you see anyone announcing they will sell those?

I joined because I bought a ztex FPGA and it's the future of BTC. Now I mine 1 BTC per day week for 8W, silent and without ecological regret! GPU miners that don't recognise FPGA mining are just bitter. They need one PC per 3-6 cards while FPGA is controlled via USB so you can have 127 FPGA's on one PC!!! Do the math on that and the electricity bill...

The important thing is to use FPGA, all electricity prices will go up since it's a free market. So it doesn't matter if you live in a country with lots of hydro like me (Sweden has 50% hydro) our corporations will just sell to Germans for a lot of money when peakoil hits.