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701  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][pandacoin] The Panda Coin ♥ Scrypt Adaptive-N w/Kimotos Gravity Well ★ on: February 13, 2014, 06:49:43 PM
pool owners please stop spamming your pool message for another few hours!!
702  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][pandacoin] The Panda Coin ♥ Scrypt Adaptive-N w/Kimotos Gravity Well ★ on: February 13, 2014, 06:18:04 PM


Takumi, It is ridiculous to say there is no 'positive community' we have close to 20k thread views, a booming IRC channel, huge amount of twitter followers and 250 BTC invested..

If you don't want to be involved that is entirely your decision. You need to appreciate the time, effort, hard work and innovation that has been put in to this coin to ensure that it is going to be successful and have a stable value for all those who are keen to be involved.

Sev

Lol, it's funny how you said that, this is a cloned coin from Vertcoin, the developer of this coin didn't even appreciated Vertcoin who started N-Adaptive so why should I appreciate someone that copied Vertcoin's code and change the distribution numbers. In fact, the community you have mentioned is nothing big, it never made it on the News. But Dogecoin and Vertcoin did. 

First of all we should address the fact that when dogecoin was in its early stages, the vast majority of people immediately dismissed the idea as stupid, childish and played it down as it was based off of a popular meme. Now the very same people are deeply rooted in the community and are huge advocates.. the reason for this is simple, doge knocked down the barriers for people outside of the 'Bitcoin' walled garden and helped them access and enjoy crypto in a more user-friendly manner.

With the addition of the asian market reach, we have identified the issues that dogecoin faced when it gained in popularity, for example the multipool hammering of the coin and the vicious way in which it lost value.

Sev
703  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][pandacoin] The Panda Coin ♥ Scrypt Adaptive-N w/Kimotos Gravity Well ★ on: February 13, 2014, 06:15:30 PM
Why is your coin any better than the multitude of coins out there, in particular vertcoin? This coin is just vertcoin with a doge reward style. The only thing I see that will drive the price up is a guy who is a notorious market manipulator endorsing it who also has a responsibility to pay back investors. So why would I expect anything other than market manipulation driving the price up, big cash outs, slowly declining value until the next drive up, rinse and repeat? Sure it's all buy low sell high stuff, but when it's one guy who apparently has the assets to control the market to his benefit, how is this good for the coin when the only way to profit is to ride his coat tails?

You've got this very backwards - I know its difficult to be bothered to go through 20+ pages of posts but just a quick TL:DR -

the 'bigger' investors that took part in the IPO are committed to holding PANDA for months to come (minimum 6) to ensure that not only will the community have full transparency over the actions they are taking, but that they themselves are invested and committed to the continued success of the coin.

Another key differentiator between ourselves and other coins in the market such as Doge, Vert, etc, is that we are are/have done the ground work to achieve an intercontinental marketplace through simealtanous promotion, marketing and PR in the asian market - this in itself has required a huge amount of leg work and is certainly one of our cooler USP's.

As you have rightly pointed out, there are big players behind this coin - this can only be seen as a positive from the point of view that they are going to help protect your investment with PANDA - whether that be through IPO, mining or even trading the coin on exchanges.

Aren't all coins buy low sell high?

People are not obliged in any way to follow wolong or his actions - his involvement in the community and team is such that he will be faciltating steady prices and preventing pump and dumpers from damaging the coins true value (which is yet to be decided as we have yet to launch)

Thanks

Sev
704  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][pandacoin] The Panda Coin ♥ Scrypt Adaptive-N w/Kimotos Gravity Well ★ on: February 13, 2014, 06:04:33 PM
Funny, you can look at any of the genuinely bad coins that have come out in the last year and see that the level and intensity of hate directed at them is insignificant in comparison to what you see here.

Listen to the haters, they know this coin is going to be great.

If it wasn't they wouldn't care.

And you made you account just to say that , right?  No shilling whatsoever!

Yes. Two days ago I made this account, just for this post. I even posted something on the LemonCoin ANN just so not to seem suspicious.

You got me.

You're trying to be ironic , but that's how shills try to defend themselves when discovered.

Sarcastic*

What if he is a shill? It seems to bother you alot. I think people can make up for themself what they think of it, no need to scream it out loud like a teen.

Coming from another newbie with 2 posts!!!!!!!!!!!!!  This is sooooo funny.
Just how many accounts you have?

Guys take it elsewhere please, have a flirt in PM
705  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][pandacoin] The Panda Coin ♥ Scrypt Adaptive-N w/Kimotos Gravity Well ★ on: February 13, 2014, 05:54:49 PM
15 pools added to OP

more to follow, please keep an eye on it

regards

sev
706  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][pandacoin] The Panda Coin ♥ Scrypt Adaptive-N w/Kimotos Gravity Well ★ on: February 13, 2014, 05:52:42 PM
We let market cap do the talking Smiley Getting all your small little armies from vertcoin to come over and spam? LMAO ... so sad vertcoin is just a pump and dump scheme with prices falling.

Vertcoin did got pumped and dumped, and you know who has the power to do so? Yeah, I guess you do. How convenient that it happened before you launch your clone.

Make your own coin, good luck to you, but please show respect to the ones that created a part of what you are using in your coin . I don't see the point into trying to insult vert coin.

The Panda Team appreciate the innovation and utility that vertcoin has and only respect the fact that that the features are able to be used by other coins and have been made available for other coins to benefit.

707  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][pandacoin] The Panda Coin ♥ Scrypt Adaptive-N w/Kimotos Gravity Well ★ on: February 13, 2014, 05:51:08 PM
guys take the trolling elsewhere, no one is forcing you to mine this coin or even pay it any attention.

Thanks

708  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][pandacoin] The Panda Coin ♥ Scrypt Adaptive-N w/Kimotos Gravity Well ★ on: February 13, 2014, 05:50:02 PM
I also think this coin is meaningless, it's created for investors and premined 3%(3 billion coins) for the investors. This coin won't last because there is no positive community to it.(Just another pump and dump coin) The technical description of this coin sounds good but there is still no open source to verify it. I would suggest don't jump to this coin just yet, wait a bit and see how it plays out first. BTW this coin doesn't sound or look like Dogecoin at all, because dogecoin provides a lot faster transaction time and has a great community back by great marketing campaign. Whether or not ASIC proof for Dogecoin doesn't really matters, because by the time ASIC technology arrived most of the 100billion dogecoins will be mined already. Using Adaptive-N sacrifice transaction time but ASIC proof. If you want to jump into ASIC proof coin, I would suggest Vertcoin because it has a great community and backed by a origin inventor of Adaptive-N developer. Just my 2 cents. Have fun mining, such coin, such profit won't happen on this coin!  Wink

Takumi, It is ridiculous to say there is no 'positive community' we have close to 20k thread views, a booming IRC channel, huge amount of twitter followers and 250 BTC invested..

If you don't want to be involved that is entirely your decision. You need to appreciate the time, effort, hard work and innovation that has been put in to this coin to ensure that it is going to be successful and have a stable value for all those who are keen to be involved.

Sev
709  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][pandacoin] The Panda Coin ♥ Scrypt Adaptive-N w/Kimotos Gravity Well ★ on: February 13, 2014, 05:26:31 PM
https://cryptsy.freshdesk.com/support/discussions/topics/77258

please guys, all the support possible on cryptsy

thanks

Sev
710  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][pandacoin] The Panda Coin ♥ Scrypt Adaptive-N w/Kimotos Gravity Well ★ on: February 13, 2014, 05:17:26 PM
This coin is dead on arrival with 3% premine.  

Do not fall for Wolong's BS scams.


250 BTC invested.. massive community support, already listed on an exchange (more details to come) and already close to 15pools..

doesnt sound much like a scam in my books =)
711  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][pandacoin] The Panda Coin ♥ Scrypt Adaptive-N w/Kimotos Gravity Well ★ on: February 13, 2014, 04:34:21 PM
Guys I will be home shortly and updating the OP to include a lt more details including pools, faucets, timer, etc. 30mins please Wink

Sev
712  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][pandacoin] The Panda Coin ♥ Scrypt Adaptive-N w/Kimotos Gravity Well ★ on: February 13, 2014, 04:32:30 PM
Can I get my sums right on this - how much of the 3% is the IPO, and how much in BTC was the IPO (200?). I'm trying to figure out what your average 1BTC investor will get in terms of Pandas in their wallet.

2% of the 3% is for the IPO , remainder is toward services,sites,dev and various others

Am I getting this right

3% Premine = 3,000,000,000 Panda
2% of 3% for IPO = 60,000,000 Panda = 200 BTC  
1 BTC = 300,000 Panda?


Nice maths!

I thought you learned maths from your philosophy teacher. Grin Grin Grin

And if that is correct then a 1 million panda block reward is worth 3 BTC?
What's the percentage of 1 million panda reward in the first 50,000 block?


2% of total coins for IPO = 2 billion = 200BTC

But someone posted that it is not 2% of total coins, but 2% of the 3% premine that is allocated for IPO...

And if 2% of the 3% premine is worth 200BTC ...then the 3% premine is valued at ...10000 BTC  Shocked

This is not true. It is somewhere between 33% and 66% of the premine that is allocated to the IPO

Ah...so the 2% of 3% actually means 2/3 of the 3% premine was allocated for IPO and only 1% (1 billion panda) of premine is still being held by Wolong?


Hi Dolphin, the breakdown is that 2 percent is held for IPO investors, that includes wolong and the 1 percent is for devs and services . Regards
713  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][pandacoin] The Panda Coin ♥ Scrypt Adaptive-N w/Kimotos Gravity Well ★ on: February 13, 2014, 04:30:04 PM
Open letter from wolong states:

"The remaining coins that I will be holding will be used to prevent early dumps from those seeking nothing but profit. So now you may be asking "Why should I be so confident in this coin I've never heard of?" one word, Transparency. My wallet will be totally public and transparent on the blockchain. I can even setup alerts in any form if there is even just a slight change to my wallet balance. So if I were to trade my wallet funds on an exchange, attempting to dump, or cap prices, people will be aware and notified of this immediately before anything happens. By setting an alert up such as twitter, this will give users peace of mind and help them understand what I’m doing, why I’m doing it and the true intentions behind it."

My questions is

Who can be certain that you wouldn't selling those billion coins as soon as they get real value?
Should we believe in your word just because you're "wolong".

I got real reserves about this coin... Clone coin, premined coin, IPO...

Any thoughts?




Hi mega, thanks for the post. The best way for me to answer this is that wolong amongst others, Molly machine and others in heavily on the IPO , have confirmed that they will be holding massive amounts of coins for over 6 months in fully public wallets

Sev
714  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][pandacoin] The Panda Coin ♥ Scrypt Adaptive-N w/Kimotos Gravity Well ★ on: February 13, 2014, 01:23:44 PM
hi guys,

a touch over 14 hours to go

a few things to mention so you dont have to scroll through 14 pages of thread

1. you cannot mine this with cgminer - it requires mining through sgminer or vertminer as we use the adaptive N
2. If you are still not sure about this coin - no one is putting a gun to your head, there are plenty of other coins to mine =)
3. The dev team are working hard to get everything finalized
4. if you are a pool owner , please jump on pandapools on freenode and message me with your pool details like this <Pool Name> <Pool URL> <fee %> - this will be updated in main thread by 7pm uk time
5. If you are an exchange, please jump on pandacoin on freenode and message me with your exchange information so that we have it - this will be updated in main thread by 7pm uk time
6. We will be ensuring a fair launch and providing all relevant mining and pool information to people so that you are not left saying 'how do i mine!'
7. please all idle in pandacoin on freenode to get a real flavour of real-time updates

thanks and panda hugs

sev
715  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][pandacoin] The Panda Coin ♥ Scrypt Adaptive-N w/Kimotos Gravity Well ★ on: February 13, 2014, 12:01:33 PM
Wow, lots of comments while i was sleeping.. guys if you have any legitimate questions rather than posting dumb jpegs and making some crazy allegations please direct them to me and i will be happy to assist

sev

Hey sevoque appreciated your help the other day but sorry to keep going on about this

scarface, too late, I already "scam" fully 200 btcs.

neh neh ni poo poo, try again faster next time when I launch new scam.


Is this the behaviour of "the panda" community or someone else

if so I just lost complete interest in this coin due to this behaviour

Would like your thoughts on this

Hi.. I think the fact is. so many people have been calling bullshit that Wolong is just giving [some of] the people what they want to hear.. all this 'scam' talk is completely nonsense so I guess by somehwat agreeing with them we are hoping to get them to go away.. they shouldn't even be posting here in the first palce if all they want to do is flame/troll.

I am not personally responsible for wolong's actions, but i am almost 100% sure it was meant in a light-hearted way so please do not misconstrue his words Smiley




just trying to get an idea of the professionalism behind the coin, this behaviour does not reflect the professionalism I would expect of any organisaton

I appreciate your response thank you
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Understood, like with any crypto, we are doing our best to build the trust of what we would deem 'investors' to be, and i mean that in the broadest sense, even someone who mines this coin is technically an investor to us. Smiley
716  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][pandacoin] The Panda Coin ♥ Scrypt Adaptive-N w/Kimotos Gravity Well ★ on: February 13, 2014, 11:56:56 AM
I am trying to figure out what is the technical difference between this and Vertcoin.

Larger coin supply, different block reward roadmap, gravity well already implemented.

yep and just to add on to this, apart from being technically sound and solidly devved, we have a massive USP in as much as the market reach.. if you knew what buzz this was creating in the good asian continent then u would be dropping your pants and fapping at the thought of what is going to be happening within the next day =)
717  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][pandacoin] The Panda Coin ♥ Scrypt Adaptive-N w/Kimotos Gravity Well ★ on: February 13, 2014, 11:47:11 AM
Wow, lots of comments while i was sleeping.. guys if you have any legitimate questions rather than posting dumb jpegs and making some crazy allegations please direct them to me and i will be happy to assist

sev

Hey sevoque appreciated your help the other day but sorry to keep going on about this

scarface, too late, I already "scam" fully 200 btcs.

neh neh ni poo poo, try again faster next time when I launch new scam.


Is this the behaviour of "the panda" community or someone else

if so I just lost complete interest in this coin due to this behaviour

Would like your thoughts on this
[/quote]

Hi.. I think the fact is. so many people have been calling bullshit that Wolong is just giving [some of] the people what they want to hear.. all this 'scam' talk is completely nonsense so I guess by somehwat agreeing with them we are hoping to get them to go away.. they shouldn't even be posting here in the first palce if all they want to do is flame/troll.

I am not personally responsible for wolong's actions, but i am almost 100% sure it was meant in a light-hearted way so please do not misconstrue his words Smiley
718  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][pandacoin] The Panda Coin ♥ Scrypt Adaptive-N w/Kimotos Gravity Well ★ on: February 13, 2014, 11:24:22 AM
There is already a Pandacoin - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=399127.msg4315256#msg4315256







Come on guys be original.

"copycat -  an obnoxious individual who, sickly, gets off on copying, imitating, emulating, simulating or miming the words, gestures and expressions of another" urban dictionary

www.isnttherealreadyapandacoin.com

719  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][pandacoin] The Panda Coin ♥ Scrypt Adaptive-N w/Kimotos Gravity Well ★ on: February 13, 2014, 11:10:47 AM
I am not so sure if I understand the concept. This Coin is supposed to combat market manipulation by being heavily premined by wolong and gang, who are selfproclaimed market manipulaters? Well, that sounds absolutely reasonable...


The crazy part is, it's going to work.

How? Can somebody elaborate how premined coins will help to stabilize the market?

Using the coins against the big hashers that just dump the coins value to the ground. At least thats what im assuming they are trying to do.


in some ways there is truth here.. what it will allow the IPO holders to do is to stabilize a price and combat potential whales from trying to floor the price in any way, maintain value and create a stabilized market for the long-term.
720  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][pandacoin] The Panda Coin ♥ Scrypt Adaptive-N w/Kimotos Gravity Well ★ on: February 13, 2014, 11:09:24 AM
I am not so sure if I understand the concept. This Coin is supposed to combat market manipulation by being heavily premined by wolong and gang, who are selfproclaimed market manipulaters? Well, that sounds absolutely reasonable...


The crazy part is, it's going to work.

How? Can somebody elaborate how premined coins will help to stabilize the market?

I think you need to look at it for what it is, if you simply refer to it as what it is, which is an IPO .. in all its glory, with a very transparent 200 BTC buy in thus far for 2% of the coins available.. it helps establish a market rate even before the coin has officially hit markets..pretty remarkable Smiley
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