Russia must learn from its past and the past of others as well. Violence is not and cannot be the solution for anything. All the issues must be resolved by mutual consent and agreements. War has not had many outcomes for the governments, but for the people, it's most dangerous as they have to pay for the effects of the war and violence.
Alas, Russia does not learn from its own mistakes, much less from the mistakes of others. Since the war with Napoleon, Russia has lost every war except World War II, and it would have lost if it were not for the allies. Russia will also lose the war with Ukraine. |
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The leader of Russian fascism, who said that the city of Kherson is now forever with Russia, after its surrender to Ukraine, for some reason does not comment on this fact. Russian television does not show with what joy the local population greeted their liberators from the fascist invaders. When leaving, the Russians blew up everything they could in Kherson, so that the population experienced difficulties, and this was done by those who claimed that Ukrainians and Russians are one people. Putin cannot escape the tribunal, and he knows this very well. He has one prospect of being hanged, as Hitler's war criminals were hanged.
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You are simply mistaken in your whole idea of what is going on. Russian leaders want profit, just the same as US leaders, and Ukrainian leaders, and the leaders of all the world. Some of those leaders want profit for the countries they are leaders of. That's why they are leaders. They are pushy for profit, even to the point of fighting for it.
The old USSR was losing business and profit in the way they were operating their Union... through forceful conquering. They changed into a trade organization in 1991, so that they could make profit in a friendly way. Why? Because that is the way winning really works. You trade rather than conquer. Or you conquer through trading with the world. But you do it gently, or people rebel and it won't work.
All the great nations became greatest when they traded and did business in a friendly way. And that is what the new Russia is all about. Their forceful "invading" of Ukraine was done to stand up against US forces that had taken over Ukraine in a forceful way (but subtle, quiet way)... a thing that the US is not supposed to be doing at all. Russia did this simply to help their people in Ukraine, and to actually help all of Ukraine. It is the US and the US led Ukraine puppet government that is like the old Russia.
A good example of Russian nonsense! The Russians invaded Ukraine, killing civilians and destroying Ukrainian cities to save them from a US attack. Also say that it is America that is killing Ukrainians. You drink vodka in the morning, and continue to drink it until the evening, otherwise a sober person is not able to write like that. |
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The Ukrainian army liberated Kherson from Russian fascists. The population greeted the Ukrainian soldiers with tears of joy. With the loss of a foothold on the right bank of the Dnieper, the Russians lost the opportunity to strike towards Odessa and further to Moldova.
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The answer would be hell no. Why would people assume that Russians are going to die for Ukraine ? A nation is a group of people with same cultural relations living together to survive and thrive. No countries would ever be sacrifice themselves to die for others in the name of justcie or human right. Just try to look at things in a more objective way. Be rational,my friend.
Where did you find cultural relations with a group of people who invaded another country to kill its inhabitants and destroy their homes. You must be talking about the US CIA coup that started in 2014, to get their puppets in place to start bombing and killing Ukrainians and Russians in the lands that Russia drove the Ukrainian coup out of... like the Donbas. Sneaky US. You can barely tell that they are the invaders, and have been for a long time. But they are the aggressive ones. All Russia is trying to do is save some of Ukraine from the US takeover. This post is like a perfect example of Russian lies. |
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Русские сдали стратегический плацдарм на правом берегу Днепра и потеряли возможность идти на Одессу и Молдавию.
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The answer would be hell no. Why would people assume that Russians are going to die for Ukraine ? A nation is a group of people with same cultural relations living together to survive and thrive. No countries would ever be sacrifice themselves to die for others in the name of justcie or human right. Just try to look at things in a more objective way. Be rational,my friend.
Where did you find cultural relations with a group of people who invaded another country to kill its inhabitants and destroy their homes. |
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As for Persia, this empire fell to the Arabs in the 7th century.
Are you ok with Egyptians identifying as Egyptians? (I assume you're making the point that Iranians are not Persian, which seems silly to me...but I could be wrong...about the assumption that is) Egyptians are Arabs living in Egypt. Persians are the main people of Iran, they speak Farsi. The Persian Empire lasted 2000 years. After the fall of the Seleucid Empire, the Parthian kingdom arose again, after which the Sassanids came to power. The Sasanian Empire is the last empire of the Persians. She fell to the Arabs. The Arab Caliphate was suppressed by the Turks and Mongols. Two powerful Turkic empires arose - the Ottoman Empire and the Ak Koyunlu Empire, which was later replaced by the Safavid Empire (also a Turkic empire), the Turks in Persia who were at enmity with each other. The Turks ruled Persia until the true Persian Pahlavi dynasty came to power, which replaced the last Turkic Qajar dynasty. The Turks in Iran were also called Azerbaijanis (Azeris). So the Azerbaijani Turks ruled Persia for quite a long time from the fall of the Arab Caliphate until 1941, when the last Shah of the Turkic Qajar dynasty Ahmed Shah was replaced by the Persian Reza Pahlavi. It was Pahlavi who changed the name of the state, which became known as Iran. |
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If you knew history well, nobody would see Russia as the most aggressive country. In reality, Russia is not aggressive, at least not that aggressive. Russia is like a big boss to rule the largest land areas in the world and to protect a home like this, you have to be tough as an iron. A vast land means endless natural resources and power. Anyone would want to steal or occupy a piece in order to survive. Why would you not be armed and protect what you already have ? In terms of wars and aggression, The United States is far more aggressive and coersive than any other country in the world. Be aware.
I'm based on facts. Russia is an empire. Russia is a prison for many nations whose territories it has seized. Many peoples were deported from their homeland. After the fall of the communist regime, the empire partially collapsed, but Putin wants to re-capture the peoples who gained independence. It is a fact! I consider Russia to be an aggressive state, which is not so. |
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No, rt is not censored in the US.
Your link is censored in Russia, but not in the US.
Are you really silly enough to try and defend Russia by arguing that America doesn't have a free press?
He is not stupid, he is a liar, like Putin, like his Empire of Lies. |
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Don't worry too much. For more than 3000 years Arran has been part of the great Persian Empire and like a child that has been separated from her mother, it will return sooner or later. The fake names will be removed and the Republic of Azerbaijan will be known in history as a short lived separatist movement that failed because Aliyev decided to shake hands with Zioterrorists.
As far as I know, Aliyev concluded a strategic alliance with Turkey, and not with Israel. As for Persia, this empire fell to the Arabs in the 7th century. |
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Stop lying! BIOWEAPONS SMOKING GUN: Ukrainian firm asks Turkish drone maker for solution to disperse aerosol contents over wide areasA Ukrainian company appears to have inquired whether a Turkish-made drone can be modified or manufactured to disperse an aerosol over a wide area, in what could be a deadly new twist in the war against Russia. BulgarianMilitary.com correspondent Dilyana Gaitandjieva tweeted that a Ukrainian company that makes aircraft engines, Motor-Sich, asked the manufacturer of the Turkish drones Bayraktar Akinci about the aerosol adaptation.  She also noted in her tweet that the Russian military noted “Bayraktars were planned to be adapted for spraying toxic substances over enemy territory.” The report continued: The journalist published a two-page document with questions from the Ukrainian producer – left and right side. The answers of the Turkish producer are on the right, in English. The document was signed by Mustafa Kosheoglu – coordinator and vice general manager of the Turkish manufacturer of Bayraktar Akinci Baykar. Ukraine also asks whether Bayraktar Akinci is “capable of flying to distances of 300km?” As can be seen from the documents, the Turkish manufacturer answered both questions in the negative. The questions were asked by the Ukrainian senior contract engineer of Motor-Sich Vyacheslav Shuklin. Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered his military to invade neighboring Ukraine on Feb. 24, no doubt believing that with more than 150,000 troops he would score a quick victory. But his forces became bogged down following stiffer-than-expected resistance from Ukrainian forces. What’s more, after Ukraine began receiving weapons from NATO countries, primarily the U.S., the Ukrainian army has managed to beat back the Russians, leading Putin to order a call-up of an additional 300,000 troops. ... How does this relate to the topic? |
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Alik Bakhshi Stop lying! No need to lie! When Russia conquered Transcaucasia, there was no Armenia. There were Azerbaijani khanates that were part of Persia, and one of them was the Karabakh khanate, with the vast majority of Azerbaijanis. By the way, the same composition of the population was in the Erevan Khanate. In the city of Irvan, Armenians and Kurds were 5% each. Here we should dwell separately on how much the Armenians distort history, referring to reliable documents, but at the same time slightly changing their text, which leads to the possibility of misinterpretation and, as a result, to a false conclusion that has nothing to do with the truth. This is especially true for Wikipedia. For example, from Wikipedia (Turkmanchay Peace Treaty - Wikipedia (wikipedia.org)): “Under the Turkmanchay Treaty, the territories of Eastern Armenia, the Erivan and Nakhichevan khanates, departed to Russia.” Consider the true text of the Turkmanchay Treaty between Russia and Persia of February 10, 1828: Article III
His Majesty the Shah of Persia, on his own behalf, and on behalf of his heirs and successors, cedes to the Russian Empire both the perfect property of the Khanate of Erivan on this and that side of the Araks, and the Khanate of Nakhichevan. As a consequence of this concession, His Majesty the Shah promises, no later than six months from the signing of this treaty, to hand over to the Russian Authorities all Archives and public documents relating to the administration of both of the above-mentioned Khanates. (Turkmanchay peace treaty (msu.ru)) The text does not indicate either about Armenia as a state (1), or about the Armenians, who, according to the Armenian version, are allegedly the main population of these khanates. Armenian historians deliberately miss the well-known fact of the settlement of the Erivan and Karabakh khanates by Armenians, which was carried out by Russia in order to have a Christian population in the South Caucasus along the border with Persia and Turkey. At the same time, the Russians forcibly deported the local Muslim population. As a result of this genocide of Azerbaijanis, Soviet Armenia appeared on the territory of the former Erivan Khanate and an autonomous region, the so-called Nagorno-Karabakh, on the territory of the Karabakh Khanate. Thus, the Russians created an artificial enclave in the very center of Azerbaijan with an Armenian population. Moscow's policy continued in the same direction, and in 1920 the Azerbaijani population was deported from Zangezur, the entire territory of which became part of the Armenian Soviet Republic, and the territory of the Derbent Khanate (Dagestan) was annexed to Russia. As a result of the forcible redrawing of borders by the Kremlin cartographers, Nakhichevan was cut off from the main territory of Azerbaijan, receiving the status of an autonomous republic. This is the truth that Yerevan and Moscow hide. During the 30-year occupation, Armenia blocked the Baku-Nakhichevan railway, part of which passes through the territory of Zangezur transferred to Armenia. After the victory of Azerbaijan in the 44-day war, under the peace treaty signed, Armenia undertook to restore the railway connection between Baku and Nakhichevan, but still does not fulfill this clause of the agreement. 1. Were there "Great Armenia" https://alikbahshi.livejournal.com/71952.html 07.11.2022 |
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Алик Бахши Врать прекратите! Врать не надо! Когда Россия завоевала Закавказье никакой Армении не было. Были Азербайджанские ханства, входившие в состав Персии, и одним из них было Карабахское ханство, с подавляющим большинством азербайджанцев. Кстати, такой же состав населения был и в Эреванском ханстве. В городе Ирване армян и курдов было по 5%. Здесь следует отдельно остановиться на том, насколько армяне искажают историю, ссылаясь на достоверные документы, но при этом несколько изменяя их текст, что приводит к возможности неправильного истолкования и, как следствие, к ложному выводу, не имеющему ничего общего с истиной. Особенно часто это касается Википедии. Например из Википедии ( Туркманчайский мирный договор — Википедия (wikipedia.org) ): «по Туркманчайскому договору к России отходили терртории Восточной Армении – Эриванское и Нахичеванское ханства.» Рассмотрим истинный текст Туркманчайского договора между Россией и Персией от 10 февраля 1828 года: Статья III
Его Величество Шах Персидский от своего имени, и от имени своих наследников, и преемников, уступает Российской Империи и совершенную собственность Ханство Эриванское по сию и по ту сторону Аракса, и Ханство Нахичеванское. В следствие сей уступки, Его Величество Шах обещает, не позже шести месяцев, считая от подписания настоящего договора, сдать Российским Начальствам все Архивы и публичные документы, относящиеся до управления обоими вышеозначенными Ханствами. ( Туркманчайский мирный договор (msu.ru) ) В тексте не указано ни об Армении как государстве (1), ни об армянах, якобы являющихся по армянской версии основным населением этих ханств. Армянские историки намеренно упускают известный факт заселения армянами Эриванского и Карабахского ханства, которое проводила Россия с целью иметь христианское население на Южном Кавказе вдоль границы с Персией и Турцией. При этом русские насильственно депортировали местное мусульманское население. Как следствие этого геноцида азербайджанцев появилась Советская Армения на территории бывшего Эриванского ханства и автономная область, так называемый Нагорный Карабах, на территории Карабахского ханства. Таким образом, русскими создан искусственный анклав в самом центре Азербайджана с армянским населением. Политика Москвы продолжалась в том же направлении, и в 1920 году азербайджанское население было депортировано из Зангезура, вся территория которого вошла в состав Армянской Советской республики, а территория Дербентского ханства (Дагестан) была присоединена к России. Как результат насильственного перекраивания границ кремлёвскими картографами, Нахичевань оказалась оторванной от основной территории Азербайджана, получив статус автономной республики. Такова правда, которую скрывают Ереван и Москва. Во время 30 летней оккупации Армения перекрыла железную дорогу Баку – Нахичевань, часть которой проходит по территории переданного Армении Зангезура. После победы Азербайджана в 44 дневной войне по заключенному мирному договору Армения обязалась восстановить железнодорожную связь между Баку и Нахичеванью, однако до сих пор не выполняет данный пункт договора. 1. А были ли «Великая Армения» https://alikbahshi.livejournal.com/71952.html 07.11.2022 |
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Денацификация и демилитаризация Украины имеет все шансы перейти к депутинизации России.
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Those are pretty exciting facts you have mentioned in this thread. It's tough to access the mind of Mr. Putin; however, the people of both states face the consequences of this war. The loss of life and Not only financial & economic but also mentally. I think there should be a peaceful resolution for all these. Peace can be concluded if the Russian troops leave the territory of Ukraine and pay an indemnity for all the evil that they have done in Ukraine. |
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На отказ отказ России обеспечить безопасность "зенового коридора" Эрдоган ответил, что вас никто и не просил обеспечивать безопасность, эту безопасность может взять на себя турецкий флот. Как результат корабли с зерном продолжают свою работу по вывозу зерна из Украину.
После этого заявления Эрдогана, Путлер понял, что ему ичего не остаётся как согласиться на продолжение выполнять "зерновое соглашение", ибо связываться с Турцией на море, значет потерять весь свой черноморский флот. |
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Со стороны Украины есть ребята которые воюют.
ой блять, и что? с моей стороны столько народу воюет, что их всех хватит чтоб дать пизди всему твоему городку вонючему. Это дело каждого, долбоящер ты ебаный Готовность воевать хорошо демонстрируется тысячами бравых русских парней покидающих Россию куда угодно, лишь бы не удобрять украинский чернозём. А тебя это ёбет? Ну съебались да и хуй с ними, красавчики! Мне например от этого зарплату не сократили и не подняли, похуй вообще, знаешь. Но почему то ты не хочешь рассказать о том что у вас там в хохляндии творилось на момент начала войны и что происходит сейчас. Типа все такие одновременно взяли оружие и пошли дружно воевать по своей воле? Да? Так а хули ты со своими свинокорешками тут делаешь? Иди съебись отсюда помоги своим братьям, нахуй ты тут сидишь толку от тебя 0. Иш ты, фантазёр хуев) Любой диспут с русским как правило кончается оскорблениями и матом. Причина тому полным отсутствием аргументированного опровержения предмета спора. Об этой особенности я написал в статье "Оскорбить в диспуте , - русская национальная особенность" ( https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5406499.msg60575542#msg60575542). Юзер Андрейка тому подтверждение. С такими бесполезен всякий контакт на форумной площадке. |
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If Putin is removed, we will have nuclear war for a fact. Why? Because some other Russian leader, who isn't as patient as Putin is, will take over Russia.
If, it does not work in history. History is written by facts, not if. And the facts are that Putin threateningly said that you will die, and we will end up in Paradise. |
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Так о каких внутренних проблемах в исламской идеологии Вы говорите?
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. В арабском халифате и в Османской империи жили христиане и их не преследовали. Христианские церкви не разрушались мусульманами.
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А как же всемирный халифат, игил, борьба суннитов с шиитами? Да им даже внешний враг не нужен! (В лице христиан как Вы говорите) Что это, если не "внутренние" проблемы ислама? Католики тоже шли против крестовыми походами, но когда это было при царе горохе... Вы, почему-то забыли о войне между католиками и протестантами в Европе, что очень похоже на аналогичную борьбу между шиитами и суннитами. Вы теоретик-фантаст, по этому не вам судить и сравнивать, уважаемый Бахчи! Вас не я буду судить, а Гаага. эх... Вы слишком погружены в свои фантазии. Это Гаагу мы будем судить, если вдруг придётся Здесь ключевое слово "если" и "мы". |
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