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701  Other / Meta / Re: Isn't this spam? on: August 30, 2014, 01:41:58 AM
I've just seen this in the offtopic section, is it allowed, can I spam the forum like that or only the hero members can?

Just asking...

http://imgur.com/u79Ecln
It is not spam to reply to every thread in a subforum as long as the replies are constructive. Although considering that the picture is of the off topic section, I somewhat doubt the replies could potentially be constructive.
702  Other / Archival / Re: Updated Overview of Bitcointalk Signature-Ad Campaigns on: August 28, 2014, 10:11:32 PM
Donation information: Till today there have been no donations. At least 4 people told me they would donate a small amount of BTC, but none did.
It's quite complicated because people relying on signature campaigns to provide them with money often dont wanna donate anything to anybody. Tongue

I wouldn't have hoped for more than a "thank you", at the most.
The OP is putting a lot of work into keeping the campaign updated. If you found a campaign because of this thread then it is more then appropriate to send something (maybe just .01) once you get paid, especially if you are making a lot of money from a campaign like PD or dicebitco.in
703  Economy / Invites & Accounts / Re: [BUY/SELL] Bitcointalk Accounts - verified accounts ✔, not hacked ✔ on: August 27, 2014, 09:28:47 AM
This is more or less a scam. The OP is asking for usernames prior to making an offer. The OP either is more then likely going to negative trust any account you try to sell him.

Deal with extreme caution.

EDIT: If you give the OP the exact amount of posts and activity then he can figure out which account you are selling.
704  Other / Meta / Re: Bribes on: August 26, 2014, 04:09:48 PM
"Bribe" alone is too vague. Bribes are fine. The only issue might be in what the bribe's for. It's kind of like "hate crimes" as far as I can tell. Anything bribe which'd be worth discipline should already be worth discipline, with bribe irrelevant.
The poll is regarding this thread.

The issue regarding bribes is that it is very difficult to determine which mods took which actions, or that an action was even taken. For example the modlog has 1,380 posts/replies deleted, 91 users "nuked", 110 threads removed, and 7 users "autobaned". I believe the modlog goes back 14 days. Some of these actions may be overlapping each-other (I am not sure if nuking a user would also make all their posts show up on the modlog as deleted). This is roughly 1,600 actions over 14 days (lets call it 100 actions per day). I only saw one new thread about someone having their posts deleted yesterday, so 99 actions were taken without anyone complaining. This makes it difficult to know if an action a mod has taken would be worth discipline.

Google searching "define bribe" results in the following
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persuade (someone) to act in one's favor, typically illegally or dishonestly, by a gift of money or other inducement.
If someone is being bribed for something that the person receiving the bribe should/could be doing anyway then it would really not be a bribe, but rather giving money in exchange for nothing.
705  Other / Meta / Re: Policy on Mods accepting bribes on: August 26, 2014, 01:08:32 PM
I want the forum to have a policy that would prohibit mods/staff from accepting any business deal

And I want the forum to have a policy that would prohibit account selling. But since neither is going to happen, get over it. Have you realized that no amount of bitching about this will matter? You always have a choice to leave if you feel that strongly about it.
there is a valid business reason to allow for account sales. If you are so strongly against account selling (despite your account being purchased) you should do something about it. Signature campaigns are what essentially creates a market for accounts. You are participating in a signature campaign so you clearly don't feel that strongly about the issue.

There is no valid business reason to allow what essentially amounts to a bribe of mods.
706  Other / Archival / Re: Updated Overview of Bitcointalk Signature-Ad Campaigns on: August 26, 2014, 05:16:57 AM
Is there any way to put now many spots are left in sig campaign, cuz i think that that is main question so far.

Seem like that most of users want to know where to go for sig campaign
The OP is not willing to keep track when only certain ranking are open for enrollment because it would be too much work to keep track of. Do you have any idea how much more work it would be to keep track of how many free spots there are?
707  Other / Meta / Re: Policy on Mods accepting bribes on: August 26, 2014, 04:12:32 AM
I have said what I want. I want the forum to have a policy that would prohibit mods/staff from accepting any business deal that is not available to the general public under the same terms and conditions that is available to the general public (this would include accepting a higher signature rate just because they are a mod).

You do not know that my accounts were banned, and you do not have proof. And no I will not prove it to you by disclosing the names of my accounts.


I didn't ask you too.you for the info, I already know it.

I bribed a mod LOL


~BCX~
I don't understand why you insist on trolling like this. It is very annoying.

Oh and P.S. I googled your handle and it looks like you have done a lot of damage to a lot of people in the past. Even forged a tweet to try to do damage to your competition.
708  Economy / Invites & Accounts / Re: [WTS] Bitcointalk Account 2 weeks from senior on: August 26, 2014, 03:07:13 AM
How much you looking for ?

0.3 maybe since only two weeks away from Senior but open to offers  Smiley
you aren't going to get .3 for a full member account, even if it has 238 activity. This is especially true now that there are no open signature campaigns.



Primedice will let you join if you have the right account.


~BCX~

How? They limited it down to certain members and no more Sr members are eligible for the campaign.
He is trolling.


How am I trolling.

If you have a the right level account Stunna at Prime Dice will let you in.


~BCX~
A staff account is not a level account. It is something that is given to people in order to moderate the forum.
709  Economy / Invites & Accounts / Re: [WTS] Bitcointalk Account 2 weeks from senior on: August 26, 2014, 01:07:10 AM
How much you looking for ?

0.3 maybe since only two weeks away from Senior but open to offers  Smiley
you aren't going to get .3 for a full member account, even if it has 238 activity. This is especially true now that there are no open signature campaigns.



Primedice will let you join if you have the right account.


~BCX~

How? They limited it down to certain members and no more Sr members are eligible for the campaign.
He is trolling.
710  Economy / Invites & Accounts / Re: [WTS] Bitcointalk Account 2 weeks from senior on: August 26, 2014, 12:02:07 AM
How much you looking for ?

0.3 maybe since only two weeks away from Senior but open to offers  Smiley
you aren't going to get .3 for a full member account, even if it has 238 activity. This is especially true now that there are no open signature campaigns.
711  Other / Meta / Re: Policy on Mods accepting bribes on: August 25, 2014, 11:01:07 PM
I am not scamming anyone by selling accounts. This is within the forum rules. I would think that most accounts that are purchased do not end up scamming because they would get negative trust once it is found out they are trying to scam. This is not the point however.

I am a huge believer in everyone having to play by the same rules. If you are paying off mods in exchange for favors then you are not playing by the same rules as everyone else.


I didn't say you were scamming anyone, I clearly stated that you are furthering scamming by selling accounts.

There is no other use for these accounts but to spam or scam. None.


I know for a fact you were banned and not paid by Stunna.

Stunna found out about you via a mod which is the genesis of your so called 'altruistic concern".


Badbear said he took care of it, what more do you want?



~BCX~
I have said what I want. I want the forum to have a policy that would prohibit mods/staff from accepting any business deal that is not available to the general public under the same terms and conditions that is available to the general public (this would include accepting a higher signature rate just because they are a mod).

You do not know that my accounts were banned, and you do not have proof. And no I will not prove it to you by disclosing the names of my accounts.
712  Other / Meta / Re: Policy on Mods accepting bribes on: August 25, 2014, 10:31:18 PM
@ACCTseller


None of your arguments are valid until you answer the question.

Were you banned and not paid by Stunna?
(I know the answer to that and who, just want to see if you will honest)


This is nothing more than "Sand in the panties" over being banned and not paid.



~BCX~
Stunna did not ban anyone. He did not pay 9 people because the admins had banned them.

If you wanted to ask if any of my accounts were banned, then the answer would be no. If you wanted to ask if he has not paid me, then the answer would be no (although there are several members of the campaign who were not banned but have not been paid as of yet - I would not be surprised if they ended up getting banned soon).

My arguments however are still valid regardless of if any of my accounts were banned or not. That fact does not have any bearing to the conversation.


So for the record, your whole motivation is "altruistic" in nature.

You're just looking out for the masses out of the goodness of your heart even though you have no problem furthering scamming by selling accounts?

Is this your position?


~BCX~
I am not scamming anyone by selling accounts. This is within the forum rules. I would think that most accounts that are purchased do not end up scamming because they would get negative trust once it is found out they are trying to scam. This is not the point however.

I am a huge believer in everyone having to play by the same rules. If you are paying off mods in exchange for favors then you are not playing by the same rules as everyone else.
713  Other / Meta / Re: Policy on Mods accepting bribes on: August 25, 2014, 09:31:14 PM
@ACCTseller


None of your arguments are valid until you answer the question.

Were you banned and not paid by Stunna?
(I know the answer to that and who, just want to see if you will honest)


This is nothing more than "Sand in the panties" over being banned and not paid.



~BCX~
Stunna did not ban anyone. He did not pay 9 people because the admins had banned them.

If you wanted to ask if any of my accounts were banned, then the answer would be no. If you wanted to ask if he has not paid me, then the answer would be no (although there are several members of the campaign who were not banned but have not been paid as of yet - I would not be surprised if they ended up getting banned soon).

My arguments however are still valid regardless of if any of my accounts were banned or not. That fact does not have any bearing to the conversation.
714  Other / Meta / Re: Policy on Mods accepting bribes on: August 25, 2014, 04:29:19 PM
I have no issue with users earning different amounts based on their ranking. A full member account is able to display a bigger signature then a member. A senior account has the same feature then a full member account. A hero account is able to display background colors while a senior account cannot. A legendary member's post is generally looked at more closely then a hero member's posts.
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Someone's username and/or ranking should not have an effect on how you receive a message as long as the message contains a valid point. I would hope that you would not give money to a legendary member when they are clearly scamming when you would not give money to a newbie when the newbie is trying to pull the same scam. Why should my message be any different?

What you're saying is that sig earnings should be relative to how much a sig can display. That makes sense. But why are you ok with different member ranks having different privileges of what is displayed in their sigs? And you're arguing for fairness?? Post quality are not determined by rank as you say, so why aren't you bitching about unfair sig displays too (higher ranks having more flashy sigs)?
I don't think you are understanding what I am saying. Let me say it a different way. If someone makes a valid point then it should be listened to regardless of who makes the point. It will be more difficult to notice a signature for someone who has a lower rank because of restrictions on their signature.

I am arguing that if a staff member accepts a higher payment then what is otherwise available to them then the staff member will be able to be influenced to the person providing payment. This is akin to the campaign manager buying power.

A staff member on the other hand generally will have their posts directed towards a smaller subset of people, more often then not addressing a specific concern of a user. Sometimes a staff member may post something unrelated to their duties as a moderator but the rules for signatures are not changed because someone is a moderator, and a post is generally not looked at more closely because someone is a moderator/staff member. As a result there is no valid business reason to want to pay a staff member at a higher rate then other senior members earn other then to use that additional payment to get something out of them later.

This is according to YOU, but you cannot speak for everyone. I can argue the other position, where a staff's account name, avatar, and sig are more noticed by the general public compared to a regular account in the same rank. So even though sig displays don't have more privileges, the overall account and status gets them more attention, regardless of what they post. So in this sense, it is a valid business decision to pay staff more.
As noted above the only users that are allowed to join the PD campaign are staff. Do you have any evidence to support this argument? Do moderators posts get quoted more often? Do they get replied to more often? In my experience they do not. As I said before there are a lot of staff that post something that is addressed to a smaller subset of users, for example explaining a ban or a rule that apples to few people.


I think no. Stunna is probably accepting legendaries too, though I dont see a mention of that in the current OP. Moreover, contrary to popular belief, PD is not shut down for everyone. Rather, they are now accepting Jr. Members too, but all these are in their affiliate campaign.
Legendary members used to be able to join, however this is no longer the case.

Campaign has changed as of August term, ranks below senior are no longer allowed to participate. Also all senior/hero slots are full
Affiliate Information
The campaign is currently closed to new registrants below legend level however, you are free to advertise using your primedice 3 referral link.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=745779.0  More information in this thread


Status
All ranks under senior: No longer offered
Senior: FULL
Hero: FULL
Staff: Available
The affiliate program is really nothing more then a scam. I would not expect to get any referrals or referral earnings from having my referral link on my signature. PD already has a very large user base, and I would argue that the effect of the PD signatures is to get people who already have accounts to deposit money and gamble. Few few people have not heard of PD and very people do not already have an account at PD. This however is a very different conversation for a different place.

This is a totally pointless thread with a totally pointless OP because it is already totally fair.  It is fair because the buyer can pay whatever he want to whomever he wants.  It is his money.  If the buyer of signature space wanted to pay girls more than boys they could.  If you do not like how someone runs a signature campaign then you are free to not participate.

No one is forcing you to sell signature space to them.  You do not have to sell your signature space at all.

Quit you insesant whining.
It is not a matter of fairness as to who gets paid what. Any campaign manager has the right to pay whoever whatever they want. The issue at hand here is if someone who has power over the forum can accept a business opportunity that involves them receiving a higher then market rate. The higher payments do not only affect the members in the campaign, they affect the entire forum. The only way to avoid this would be to not participate in the forum, to not exercise your right to free speech. When someone with power receives an above market payment, they will owe the person who gave them the payment something in return. This will affect the way the forum is moderated; when someone wants a mod on their payroll to turn a blind eye they will be more likely to do so, or (more likely) when someone wants a mod to be more strict against a certain member or group of members they will be more likely to do so.
Mods can accept bribes?  Sounds great!  How do I get to be a mod then?

Forgot to answer this.

Bribes obviously.

I'm upset that nobody offer me any bribe. Embarrassed
You mean the bonus payment from your signature, solely based on you being a staff member, isn't a bribe? Wink

What is it.. a political donation? Roll Eyes If it seems like a bribe, it is a bribe.

I didn't request any raise for my signature payment. In fact I was gonna remove my signature but I hold it when I see the raise. It's normal because I have sticky posts etc., my signature gets more attention than other members'. It's not bonus payment, it's well deserved earning. If theymos decides to remove paid (or all) signatures, I'm okay with that, too.

Since you were offered a higher rate then what other people with your same rank receive, you decided to keep your signature? This is exactly my point. Although there is nothing against the rules with you having a signature, you admit to keeping it because of the higher rate. Now since you are receiving a higher rate, if you were to receive a request to look at a particular account/thread and take action against the account/thread by the operator of PD would you possibly do so? Do you think the action you would take would be at least a little bit influenced by the fact that you are now earning more money then what other members earn?

You don't have to be a mod to have your post sticked, you only need to have written a post that is very important and informative to the sub-forum in question. There are many stickies that are not written by a mod. Also your well deserved earning is what you get from the forum in exchange for being a mod/staff member.
715  Other / Meta / Re: Policy on Mods accepting bribes on: August 25, 2014, 06:07:04 AM
hilariousandco was in PD sig campaign before he was a mod (I think?), so according to you, he should be booted from it now?

You were perfectly fine with a tiered payout according to rank. Now when there is a staff/legendary tier, it's a problem all of a sudden? If you're going to bitch about staff having higher pay in sig campaigns, then also bitch about unfair payouts according to rank.

This problem you bring up is isolated to one mod and one sig campaign. You don't sound any more professional making sweeping generalizations like this.


PS - why don't you come on your real account to bring this up? Ironic that you bring up such small "problem", yet your alt account is solely for buying/selling forum accounts, which is borderline shady. Only reason why this activity isn't against the rule is because it can't be enforced. So like you said, how are you going to enforce mods not giving inside info through email instead of PM? You can't, it's all based on the honor system.
I have no issue with users earning different amounts based on their ranking. A full member account is able to display a bigger signature then a member. A senior account has the same feature then a full member account. A hero account is able to display background colors while a senior account cannot. A legendary member's post is generally looked at more closely then a hero member's posts.

A staff member on the other hand generally will have their posts directed towards a smaller subset of people, more often then not addressing a specific concern of a user. Sometimes a staff member may post something unrelated to their duties as a moderator (and adding something to the conversation of the topic) but the rules for signatures are not changed because someone is a moderator, and a post is generally not looked at more closely because someone is a moderator/staff member (I don't have specific stats on how much staff members contribute to a conversation verses are directed towards a specific concern, but the best case scenario is that a moderator contributes 100% to the conversation and carries the same signature as others in his ranking). As a result there is no valid business reason to want to pay a staff member at a higher rate then other senior members earn (assuming the subject staff member is a senior member) other then to use that additional payment to get something out of them later.

In my private career, I have been forbidden from accepting gifts exceeding $25 per year from any one person in order to prevent any perceived conflict of interest. In the case in question, a senior member who also is a staff member would receive an extra $60 per month (based on $500/BTC) in compensation which comes out to $720 per year, or would be able to take advantage of an offer that is not available to anyone except for a staff member if they are not yet enrolled. The purpose of this limit is to prevent judgment from being clouded in the event of a request being received that should not be granted or a request that is borderline appropriate/inappropriate.

There is only one signature campaign that is doing this to my knowledge. The reason why I did not name the specific campaign is because I think the rules should be evenly be applied to everyone.

Someone's username and/or ranking should not have an effect on how you receive a message as long as the message contains a valid point. I would hope that you would not give money to a legendary member when they are clearly scamming when you would not give money to a newbie when the newbie is trying to pull the same scam. Why should my message be any different?



Again how is this effecting you personally?

All of what you have posted so far still screams "sand in the panties over getting banned" and wanting mod pay back, nothing more.

No one is buying the "this all needs to be fair, greater good, blah blah blah" shtick especially since you're a 30 day old Jr Members account with name of ACCTseller.


~BCX~
Why do I need to be personally affected by this in order to want the market to be as fair as possible?

Would you admit that this setup is not fair? If so would you think this is something that is okay?

Like I said before the length of time an account has been around (as well as the number of posts an account has made) does not affect the message being said.
716  Other / Meta / Re: Policy on Mods accepting bribes on: August 25, 2014, 05:26:55 AM
hilariousandco was in PD sig campaign before he was a mod (I think?), so according to you, he should be booted from it now?

You were perfectly fine with a tiered payout according to rank. Now when there is a staff/legendary tier, it's a problem all of a sudden? If you're going to bitch about staff having higher pay in sig campaigns, then also bitch about unfair payouts according to rank.

This problem you bring up is isolated to one mod and one sig campaign. You don't sound any more professional making sweeping generalizations like this.


PS - why don't you come on your real account to bring this up? Ironic that you bring up such small "problem", yet your alt account is solely for buying/selling forum accounts, which is borderline shady. Only reason why this activity isn't against the rule is because it can't be enforced. So like you said, how are you going to enforce mods not giving inside info through email instead of PM? You can't, it's all based on the honor system.
I have no issue with users earning different amounts based on their ranking. A full member account is able to display a bigger signature then a member. A senior account has the same feature then a full member account. A hero account is able to display background colors while a senior account cannot. A legendary member's post is generally looked at more closely then a hero member's posts.

A staff member on the other hand generally will have their posts directed towards a smaller subset of people, more often then not addressing a specific concern of a user. Sometimes a staff member may post something unrelated to their duties as a moderator (and adding something to the conversation of the topic) but the rules for signatures are not changed because someone is a moderator, and a post is generally not looked at more closely because someone is a moderator/staff member (I don't have specific stats on how much staff members contribute to a conversation verses are directed towards a specific concern, but the best case scenario is that a moderator contributes 100% to the conversation and carries the same signature as others in his ranking). As a result there is no valid business reason to want to pay a staff member at a higher rate then other senior members earn (assuming the subject staff member is a senior member) other then to use that additional payment to get something out of them later.

In my private career, I have been forbidden from accepting gifts exceeding $25 per year from any one person in order to prevent any perceived conflict of interest. In the case in question, a senior member who also is a staff member would receive an extra $60 per month (based on $500/BTC) in compensation which comes out to $720 per year, or would be able to take advantage of an offer that is not available to anyone except for a staff member if they are not yet enrolled. The purpose of this limit is to prevent judgment from being clouded in the event of a request being received that should not be granted or a request that is borderline appropriate/inappropriate.

There is only one signature campaign that is doing this to my knowledge. The reason why I did not name the specific campaign is because I think the rules should be evenly be applied to everyone.

Someone's username and/or ranking should not have an effect on how you receive a message as long as the message contains a valid point. I would hope that you would not give money to a legendary member when they are clearly scamming when you would not give money to a newbie when the newbie is trying to pull the same scam. Why should my message be any different?
717  Other / Meta / Re: Policy on Mods accepting bribes on: August 25, 2014, 04:57:22 AM
@OP

There is no one on this forum that hates sig spammers more than me but this whole thing sounds like you simply have sand in your panties because somebody is paid more than you.

It also sounds like someone that may got got busted for sig spamming trying for some mod pay back.

If not guess what? Everything in life isn't fair, deal with it.

It's plain as day that BCT couldn't careless how Stunna runs his sig campaigns.

How more clear does it need to be made?


~BCX~




I don't like signature spammers either (or any other type of spammers for that matter). What I am saying is that it is not right to be able to use your position of power to be able receive a higher payment for no reason other then the fact that you hold this power. This is especially true when the person paying you is monitoring the same people that you (a person of power) has been entrusted to monitor and regulate, and you have additional tools to monitor these people.
718  Other / Meta / Re: Policy on Mods accepting bribes on: August 25, 2014, 04:36:57 AM
Quote from: ACCTseller link=topic=753879.msg8519661#msg8519661[/quote

Thank you for replying and addressing this issue.

My concern about banning signature spammers is that these bans are likely based on other things (likely the number of previously delated posts they have). So if these other actions have happened to someone in a signature campaign (a lot of posts get delated that maybe shouldn't have been) then the account might get banned when a ban might not be warranted.

I can see deleted posts so I don't see how that's a concern.

Quote
Based on your response, I assume that you know who had provided this signature campaign operator information about the users who were banned. You more then likely know who gave this information because it was likely sent via PM. But what if next time the information is sent in a way other then PM? It would be very difficult to track the dissemination of this information if it was sent by email (for example).

This is also essentially robbing the forum from potential revenue. By receiving a larger payment then what is available to the general public and then providing non-public information the forum is essentially robbed of the opportunity to sell this information if it deemed a good idea to do so. The same applies to anything else that a mod could potentially do in exchange for a higher payment.

I think that the forum should take up a policy to prohibit staff/moderators from accepting payment from a signature campaign that pays them at a higher rate then what they would receive if they were not a moderator/staff. This would stop the appearance of any conflict of interest.

I know because he told me, I believe he had good intentions.

Violating someone's privacy by reading pm's because you think they violated someone else's privacy? That doesn't sound right at all, I try to respect everyone's privacy regardless of what I think. And I don't read pm's (though pm privacy can't be guaranteed).

And if sharing of information really becomes an issue then the simplest thing to do is remove the information, or be more selective about who has access to it, there are several easy ways to accomplish this. And that would be better than punishing all the mods for something one might do. Besides, weeding out banned sig spammers is easy, require x posts per week, since almost all are banned for a minimum of a week, usually 2.

If you have a problem with a business paying staff more, then I suggest you take it up with them.
Again thank you for your response.

I personally do not and would not expect privacy for any emails sent/received (equivalent to a PM) with my work email. I would not send any email that I would not want my boss (or her boss, or his boss, or his boss, or her boss, or his boss) to see as I would like to be able to maintain a positive relationship with all of them. I would also personally consider that a PM to a particular mod/staff member to be potentially be seen by any other mod/staff member. Then again I believe it has been said that the mods should be considered and looked at as volunteers.

I believe the moderator in question (I do not know with 100% certainty who it was, but I believe I know who it was) did have very good intentions. If he is who I think he is, then he is a very respected member of the community (and by me), and I think having him as a moderator will have an overall positive effect on the community. I also think that the forums definition of spam are very different then a campaign operator's definition of spam. (this may not matter as it is apparent that various back end processes are somewhat different then what I had imagined).

My concern is not so much as a business offering the higher rate as it is that moderators are accepting the higher rate (or being allowed to do so).

Again I thank you for addressing my concerns. Although the policy what not changed to what I was hoping for, you have at the very least looked into my concerns, and reacted in a way that you feel is appropriate in your best judgment (I would personally trust your judgment).

I hope at the very least my concerns have inspired some level of conversation about this topic (or at the very least inspired some level of thought about this topic).
719  Other / Meta / Re: Policy on Mods accepting bribes on: August 25, 2014, 02:58:34 AM
Why don't you just PM hilariousandco and Stunna. We all know you're directing it at these two, but rather you're making some generalizations when it doesn't even involve any other staff or any other sig campaigns.

It's Stunna's sig campaign, he can be as discriminatory as he wants with who he pays and what rate.
I want to keep things as professional as possible. By directing accusations at certain people it makes it look like I am targeting them specifically which I am not (I have nothing against either of the people you mentioned personally). I hope to get the forum to adopt a policy against moderators accepting business opportunities that are not available to the general public if a member of the public was in the same circumstances.

You are correct to say that any campaign operator is free to pay whatever they want to whoever they want, but it should not necessarily be within forum guidelines/rules to accept these kinds of offers.
720  Economy / Services / Re: [PrimeDice] [Highest Paid Signature] Earn Bitcoins Simply By Posting on: August 25, 2014, 01:57:41 AM
still no payment

stunna said he was 1 click away from sending 8hr ago whats wrong!!!?

He probably ran off with the money, never quite liked that guy.



bit.ly/1rP5tpp   To boost your affiliate rate. To be clear you can only participate in ONE of either the signature or affiliate campaign at one time.


All signatures will be sent soon, this takes a lot more time than most people think.


These users will be denied payment as they were banned during the term from the forum:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=315965 halorose (2 weeks)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=226561 hualehua (2 weeks)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=155252 noob2001 (2 weeks)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=124082 jump4ever (2 weeks but ban has expired now - but posts are still very short which is what he was originally banned for)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=76446 umairsaleem010 (60 days)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=91563 RDMINER (perma banned - botting posts)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=94837 coinsandcoins (not sure of the duration, might be permanent but don't think he would've made enough posts to claim anyway)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=336142 ahappymau5 (2 weeks, but probably didn't make enough posts to claim anyway)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=220381 schnötzel (7 days - lots of one word posts and images)



If you are a Senior or Hero member and do not receive a PM from me the next 2 days it means you are 100% good to go. Don't take it personally as there are 95+ senior members participating right now, that number will be cut in half.

 EDIT: The campaign will be closed to those who are currently participating and I will be weeding out people who spam (many of them have graduated to the senior rank)

Hi Stunna,

How are you able to see the ban status of users, and their ban duration? This information is not public knowledge and is being used for commercial purposes.

Maybe he has other account which is mod on this forum . LOL .

Btw ur trust rating is i think the best on this forum, how u menaged to do that :S .
I am pretty sure this is not the case. He is paying staff above market rates then somehow has access to information that only mods have access to. I am surprised users are not making a bigger deal about this.
Not going to point fingers, but one of the moderators (not me BTW), trying to prevent spammers from getting paid for their posts, gave info to Stunna about banned users who were participating in his campaign and Stunna decided to post it. Good intent, bad execution.
I think it is a very good intent but if a mod is using forum resources to do something that is not official forum business then that is wrong. AFAIK the forum does not have a policy against spammers from getting paid on a signature campaign. Since there is no policy against this there is no reason for a representative of the forum to try to prevent this from happening.

The definition of spam by the forum and the definition of spam by any campaign operators are likely very different. I recently saw a post of a campaign operator that said any posts in the off topic section is not considered to be "constructive" (aka is spam) while the forum obviously allows posts in the off topic section.

A campaign operator that is getting non public information is essentially receiving information would essentially receive an unfair advantage over other campaign operators.
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