Address:
17eDS4zwUvd3whq6ep46NRN4gVegQ8JuFM
Message:
I bitkilo am taking a loan of $145 USD from QS, repayment will be $160 USD by 31/12/2015
Using bitfinex rate.
Please deposit btc to:
1Js5djRnuFozdu79KAqAoSi2LZHEreAVsV
Signature:
Gw/sqsKsNibu8HX8/gnESv2TXHnTRrNdcPtPoCdz7yl7XMJV1wSMPLcFkpoBRVMU38o2JN13mnVX91OaBS4Xo1s=
Signature verified. The address was posted https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=654009.msg8195411#msg8195411Sent .3276 BTC ($145 based on bitfinex last rate of $442.60) to the above address. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 This is quickseller from bitcointalk. Today is December 20, 2015/December21,2015. I have funded a loan in the amount of $145 (0.3276 BTC based on bitfinex last rate of $442.60) to bitkilo via txid 39bfe87d62a507f0696c98062c9aa4615d77df95af3a3fc6d79c02300cb10ba3 Please repay $160.00 (based on bitfinex last rate as of the time of repayment) in BTC to 13aTsh3ZNRzfgzrAA9dakkUmqTRsa5yqxz by December 31, 2015 regards QS -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEcBAEBCgAGBQJWd+tDAAoJEFMt0pDwvrUWd7EH/jqd2FUZaIX951LI0Bmnygms pyGBw8PMZV0FRYNkcd6QONqli8I/iDw+zYFTXM0YbsvPKs7M6zE6i6TOm7/ql749 dtUvim37ID2NjncZBMJv5eBLdxFUAZfeeEtyAc2CzeTj4xEwvSSw3aRu55bPrkwE OD+dQgyUx+H1hc9HSAilXsGc3JuYrS5CI4cUNVt1m9bS8aUJNvw42+iqStEWdo0Q lIjMZZOXyw5X/V93uA5Zsqzs8X3ywJdOLWWw9Ftf4Q5beU/aixBxbloWQzTHQpRu x14iJ+u/diC0GLTSwqKm+nLURVbgXL/wcmBxHVpn4Hdv8D0DeL35jYozjHtXVXk= =j1Vd -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- Address:
17eDS4zwUvd3whq6ep46NRN4gVegQ8JuFM
Message:
I bitkilo am taking an additional loan of $72 USD from QS with full repayment of both loan by 31/12/2015 for amount of $240 USD
Please deposit btc to:
1Js5djRnuFozdu79KAqAoSi2LZHEreAVsV
Sig:
HCZrOCx7KIB4Pns/egVmiOHupRbLxhRYSaP1ntqhZKK3TruFh6W+g22QfoN6uHjiO/EZa7RqH9VQ/FeUqEhM0uA=
Verified the signature. Sent the additional $72USD based on the Bitfinex rate of $438.32 (0.16425 BTC) via bd719f2f08bc4b22345772f513343de15fd0a81fd73c2dcda4665578af6e7302 Please repay a total of $240 worth of bitcoin based on the exchange rate at the time of repayment by the end of the year to the address quoted above. This loan has been repaid in full via txid af71faf04702ceb99c59a63406214df9ffa3d006f4c3c96fe40f92b3636f8ee9Thanks and happy new years! |
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Please lock this thread and have mater-p open a self moderated thread so we can get away from all the bullshit and get people their money back.
Scam accusation threads cannot be self moderated. Both the victims and the accused need to be able to present their side of the story/evidence in these types of threads. Unfortunately it appears that a number of trolls are taking advantage of this in this thread and are posting complete bs |
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Hey Quickseller,
Would you be willing to loan 1.5 BTC @ 5% interest for 1 week or 10% if paid back after but within 2 weeks?
15RZnLMswdDrDRy24HixyGEWKNBwjp4vBZ
Confirming this is xetsr asking Quickseller for a loan. 1.5 BTC @ 5% interest to be repaid within 1 week or 10% interest to be repaid within 2 weeks. Signed on 12/30/2015
HNBIrlJCOZl/VYaZnbE3sd4fbroAaGKNTXHKJwBBjhxOGvA335lexBLMiKfFRjrrDQOZYE+q6PICb0u9GW28cvU=
Thanks.
EDIT:
BTC address: 15RZnLMswdDrDRy24HixyGEWKNBwjp4vBZ
Verified. The above address was posted here. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 This is Quickseller from bitcointalk, today is December 30, 2015 RE: The loan to xetsr from myself I have sent 1.5 BTC via txid dd9bbb0d5a2ea2b9a694a014acf5afa07b98bdf8bc691c3b1bdb5439221eb967 Please repay to the following address: 1HkyyuaZTkBLM9p5CAnCofM1vspKrdhWx7 The amount needed to repay the loan depends on the below schedule: Jan 6, 2016 by 2359 EST (US) - 1.575 BTC Jan 13, 2016 by 2359 EST (US) - 1.65 BTC Regards QS -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEcBAEBCgAGBQJWhF52AAoJEFMt0pDwvrUWLMQH/iiN+6IEk/hWG/LJyGyH8BaF NXYmB9y1hCmeC2JV/eyBT3d2Ruj2J6p63CjWCim8QcJEjA1SUK3p0erYGvk/54sp 0+jMAIlBgGT2tNAHsuUgb8/3HbRrPyLcY6sKAf1I4GzRM/ay/f2MoxtR1YyWxdCK YMO2YcF3MVwmYv2bxJ+v5EMfd6Cwdms6IkN9/GiYM7yERntaAI+J8x6Hy5CBbIHz KCid/ChHdhKfHErvAevmxb1smDtLNRIRT5jNyJETRJXTMHdbNJvJYjqoEgPl4+1b U1LbffMwJZ6FjeGwILmsco92/rQ/toy4S8S+Bw99ZKFJM9r5zPHaa4sRcDtaB5o= =KCms -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |
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I'm the real Master-P. I left this forum over a year and a half ago. Imagine my surprise when I come on here to find that my old account was hacked and being used to escrow deals and whatnot. I've never acted as an escrow for anyone before. I mostly used to post in the altcoin section. I have no idea about the identity of the person who has been in control of my account for the last year and a half or so.
Why don't you say which account you sold the master-P account from? |
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send master-p 10 btc on escrow no response yet
uh... Did you read the recent replies at all??? Master-p now is just the past, a huge scam now... I miss the old time send master-p 10 btc on escrow no response yet
Any proofs of transactions or something? Just dont claim blindly. He is pretty clearly just trolling. Take a look at his trust -- he was trying to scam pennies from a giveaway and I would find it highly unlikely that he would have 10 BTC to send to escrow |
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Can you guys mark this guy red too? This person came to me first and suggested Master-P as escrow. I was making a trade with him but all communication stopped as soon as I put my coins into escrow, which I suspect it was "Master-P" using a shill to scam. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=48500Do you have documentation of the communication with this person? |
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So what about bathing in Ponzi? if you are still considering is the right thing to do... A new scheme is ready: https://bitage.biz + or -.... u'r pick Not. It will almost certainly end up scamming players once it is in control of enough money. I would suggest that you close/lock this thread before you receive negative trust for promoting a ponzi |
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That's illegal pretty much everywhere and therefore not allowed here.
Yeah but a lot of the offers in digital goods are clearly carded... They are not outright saying the accounts are carded/hacked/cracked though. The OP is outright saying that he is selling carded/stolen items and that is illegal. There is always the (remote) possibility that all the netflix/ect. accounts sold in digital goods are not carded - I would not recommend buying them though. |
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i dont care what anyone says about QS, fact remains hes absolutely great at detective work, and hes found numerous bits of info that points to an exit scam rather than an account sale and the new owner scamming.
He actually didn't believed that and he neither wanted to do some digging ,check his first post.But i agree with that. At the time of that post, there was not any solid evidence that master-p was a scammer, only that there were issues with him releasing/refunding escrows. The fact that master-p essentially tried to fake that he sold his account more or less confirms that master-p was planning on pulling an exit scam. There is also the accusation that master-p had taken 1.5 BTC for PayPal funds, but never delivered and did not refund the BTC when requested......neither of these facts were available at the time I made that post. You should also note that I did say it would be advisable to avoid using him as escrow until he resolved his outstanding issues. yup but you were not neutral ? you were positive on him,but anyways i agree with that and i think i also had a deal with you cause i think you are sort of good at digging. No, I was not neutral because based on the facts available to me at the time, master-p was not a scammer. At that point in time the facts pointed to master-p having problems creating transactions, and all indications pointed to him not being a scammer. Also keeping the OP calm would result in the highest chances of him having his money returned to him, and the above post was attempting to do just that. |
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It is paramount that you give the account details directly to me while the Bitcoins are in escrow. Without a third party knowing the details.
This is going to make it difficult for the escrow to mediate any disputes between you and the seller. There would be nothing to stop you from claiming that you received credentials that were not valid and there would be nothing to stop a seller from sending you bogus credentials that are not valid, and the escrow would not have any way of knowing for sure who is telling the truth. |
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i dont care what anyone says about QS, fact remains hes absolutely great at detective work, and hes found numerous bits of info that points to an exit scam rather than an account sale and the new owner scamming.
He actually didn't believed that and he neither wanted to do some digging ,check his first post.But i agree with that. At the time of that post, there was not any solid evidence that master-p was a scammer, only that there were issues with him releasing/refunding escrows. The fact that master-p essentially tried to fake that he sold his account more or less confirms that master-p was planning on pulling an exit scam. There is also the accusation that master-p had taken 1.5 BTC for PayPal funds, but never delivered and did not refund the BTC when requested......neither of these facts were available at the time I made that post. You should also note that I did say it would be advisable to avoid using him as escrow until he resolved his outstanding issues. |
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I tend to believe the recent problems with "reindexing" the blockchain on his wallet might be in fact a loss of his wallet and he had no backup.
I had thought about this possibility, however I do not presently believe this to be the case. In this thread, he agreed to buy BTC with his PayPal at above market rates, and never delivered on the PayPal funds, nor did he deliver on the BTC refund when requested, and I would say this for the most part would discredit this theory. Or ask some very good detective(QuickSeller???) [/quote]Ha thanks  Can the moderators do something? Look at an IP log, confirm if he really sold the account. Did the account password recovery email changed lately? It would be so much easier if account trades are banned, to prevent such discussions.
I hope that he will return the funds to all people that have an unfinished deal with him. If he always could sign a message the good way, and now they are bad, then it is possible his account has been sold. But he also could have faked it, we only can know this if the MODS/ADMIN can help us to solve this. Take a look at this post, I think it pretty much proves that master-p was not sold in August. Actually, Master-P is most likely using an old version of Armory (0.93.2) which now produces nonstandard transactions with a High S value.
Master-p has actually pushed a number of his escrow transactions, including his signature campaign payments via blockchain.info, which leads me to believe that he might not be using armory. Even if he is using a wallet that produces nonstandard transactions, I had sent him a PM the day this thread was opened offering my assistance in getting nonstandard transactions confirmed (which I have the ability to do provided I have the signed transaction, and do not need private keys to accomplish). I have not received any kind of response to this offer. (I also offered to help creating transactions that he could sign so he can pay his obligations). |
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[...] all parties to a transaction agreed to use a particular person as escrow.
No. Read the Coinbet sig thread. No mention of participants' pay depending on the escrow not running away. I expect to receive the wages promised me, unless the company employing me declares bankruptcy. Both the gambling site & the totally real ugaise cloud mining/web wallet/MLM operations claim to be doing just fine. In the case of Coinbet, it would be coinbet that is responsible for making the payments as they would be the one who received the benefit of the signature advertising. The campaign manager is merely an employee Fine. Who is behind Coinbet, let's paint their trust red. I have no idea, however if the participants end up not receiving their payment, then they can open a scam accusation. I can say that I have recently received my payment from the owner of the company behind my (previous) signature campaign whose funds were stolen by master-p |
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[...] all parties to a transaction agreed to use a particular person as escrow.
No. Read the Coinbet sig thread. No mention of participants' pay depending on the escrow not running away. I expect to receive the wages promised me, unless the company employing me declares bankruptcy. Both the gambling site & the totally real ugaise cloud mining/web wallet/MLM operations claim to be doing just fine. In the case of Coinbet, it would be coinbet that is responsible for making the payments as they would be the one who received the benefit of the signature advertising. The campaign manager is merely an employee |
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Are any of these transactions actually from any of the escrow addresses? If not then the OP is most likely just a troll. If so then more likely then not master-p's dox will be released (based what is pretty clearly happening). Either way, I think I should invest in a popcorn company. Those transactions don't look like they correlate to anything that has been going on here. One transactions was 2 seconds after the other. Anyways, people that do this kind of stuff really have something coming for them. @quickseller You should get a popcorn company, I'll get a high end seat company for all the visitors. Upon further investigation, it looks like each of those transactions were separate from each-other, and likely originated from various services. I would guess that the OP got them from a block explorer and is trolling. |
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What a mess this has made with Master-P pulling this crap. Before this issue escrows worked pretty well here and now I think users will try to not use escrow as much. I really hope people do not get scammed due to this shitstorm...
As franky1 is well known for frequently saying: - snip -
DO NOT TRUST ANY SERVICE OR PERSON THAT YOU CANT FIND, TO SLAP WITH A WET FISH
If you give your bitcoins to an escrow provider, the escrow provider should first be willing and able to provide you with enough information to prove their identify and to visit them if necessary. When I provided escrow services, I always provided enough information to identify and find me. Surprisingly, I was never asked to prove that identity, but would have been willing to if I was asked. If people value such a service, then they'll be willing to pay appropriately for it. If they're willing to pay appropriately, then there will be trustworthy people that are willing to provide such a service in exchange for an opportunity to be rewarded for their trustworthiness. Unfortunately, I found when I was offering the service that it wasn't very valued by most users. As such, the few pennies a month that I made in tips wasn't enough to justify the amount of time and effort that I was putting in to securing funds and facilitating agreements. I am starting to think that escrows should be vetted (I know JohnK used to handle that back a few years ago). Maybe have an admin or someone extremely trusted verify identities? The problem with this is that most of the time, it is not an open and shut case that an escrow is pulling an exit scam (as is the case with master-p). One example of a not clear case of an escrow scamming would be when funds held in escrow are lost and the escrow agent needs some time to come up with the funds to reimburse the parties he was providing escrow for. Another example of a not clear case of scamming would be when an escrow makes a decision in a dispute that someone (or a group of people, or someone with a number of accounts, or a group of people with a number of accounts) who is very good at making a lot of noise does not agree with, and may or may not have been made in bad faith. re: making it possible to find the identity of an escrow agent -- for the most part it would be trivial to provide a fake identity to those that ask, especially if an identity never needs to be verified in person, so providing an identity would probably, in many scenarios give a false sense of security when zero additional security results. I also believe that Mark (however you spell his last name) of MtGox's identity was publicly known, but this did not stop him from embezzling large amounts of customer funds (this ignores the fact that he lost 800k BTC of customer money due to security breaches), and I believe that maidak's identity was public prior to him scamming for thousands of dollars. On the other hand, the identity of the likes of John K., OgNasty, and Tomatocage is far from public, and I cannot even say with certainty that anyone knows all of their identities. I would say that a good way to reduce risk when dealing with an escrow would be to ensure the escrow is on solid financial footing (if they have plenty of money of their own, they will be less likely to run away with others' money), and to monitor the amount of money they are holding on behalf of others and avoid using them if this amount is spiking over a very short period of time. OgNasty allows people to see (for the most part) how much BTC he is holding on behalf of others by only (for the most part) having people send BTC to his "signature" address, and while this is a viable option, other options would include making all escrow addresses public by making the xpubkey of their escrow wallet public, and those using an escrow's services would only send BTC to an address that is both PGP signed by the escrow and can be linked to a particular xpubkey belonging to the escrow. |
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I really know very little about what the campaign managers are doing, and frankly I don't care that much. In my opinion tho, the party who chose Master-P as escrow to pay out the campaign funds is liable for their loss, and stiffing the signature holders is wrong. Just as if Master-P was actually hacked, he would still be responsible for any coins lost under his care, the same is true for whoever is responsible for putting Master-P in charge of signature payout funds. Just because a 3rd party robbed you does not mean you are not still under contract with 2nd parties. I realize this is frustrating being victimized twice, but this was your personal responsibility to prevent these scenarios (assuming you chose Master-P as escrow).
Managers arent paid enough to assume responsibility of paying a campaign if the escrows takes off. Thats ridiculous to even consider. No matter whom chooses the escrow the escrow recieves the money. I never see it so i dont see where your logic makes any sense. I would agree with you on this. It is the responsibility of the company that is receiving the advertising to ensure that signature campaign participants are paid as they are the ones receiving the benefits of such advertising. It is the escrow that is guaranteeing (and in many cases, making) the payments to signature campaign participants. It does not matter who choose suggested the escrow, as at the end of the day, all parties to a transaction agreed to use a particular person as escrow. |
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Per our recent PM, Quickseller has agreed to extend the loan until Tuesday January 5th at midnight for repayment in return for an extra .01 of interest.
agreed and acknowledged. Thanks |
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What is the "extra 4.32"? I would somewhat assume that he has at least some amount of BTC that actually belongs to him. So unless there is a substantiated claim on these funds then I would say this amount belongs to him.
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Are any of these transactions actually from any of the escrow addresses? If not then the OP is most likely just a troll. If so then more likely then not master-p's dox will be released (based what is pretty clearly happening). Either way, I think I should invest in a popcorn company. |
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