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7101  Other / Obsolete (buying) / Re: BTC-e question for withdrawing USD on: November 14, 2012, 10:06:11 PM
Should probably be in Service Discussion.
7102  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Corporal Punishment (Re: Our response to Dmytri Kleiner's misunderstanding of money on: November 14, 2012, 08:45:59 PM
This thread has become punishing to read.
7103  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Our response to Dmytri Kleiner's misunderstanding of money on: November 14, 2012, 08:39:32 PM
I have a credit card and paypal but I cant buy coins at the going rate. That there is the biggest hindrence. != Liquidity.

This forum is more worried about trying to correct people and show how intelligent they are than any other forum ive seen. If you read my post you'll fully understand.  It is pretty straight forward regardless of me saying liquidity or illiquidity. Its a liquidity issue.

People aren't trying to show how smart they are, they're just trying to be specific about the language because it makes communication easier. There are already enough tough concepts to master without the definitions being mixed up.

That said, liquidity is a special term that's reserved for some other meaning. It's something along the lines of "the number of transactions per second under various conditions".

A more likely cause of your complaint (high prices) is lack of competition. There are not enough vendors willing to make Bitcoin-Paypal transactions, so the ones that do exist charge excessive fees. Maybe they've even formed a cartel?

It's the same when I try to do forex transactions. I go on oanda.com or some other such site, and see all these fantastic exchange rates. However, when I want to actually make such a transaction using a bank, they skim a huge percentage and then have the gall to charge a 'transaction fee' on top of the massive fee they already charged!

No, high prices is not a bitcoin problem. Illiquidity is. Its to hard to get coins. You need to go through to many middlemen just to make a simple purchase.

Please elaborate on "too many middlemen". Sounds like a case of "you're doing it wrong".
7104  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Somebody in Washington is not happy on: November 14, 2012, 07:02:49 AM
Have to laugh at states that violate civil rights with impunity seceding from the U.S. Especially Texas, which uses Jim Crow laws to keep minorities from being able to effectively defend themselves in public, as well as New Jersey.

As far as I'm concerned, their governments have already seceded, as long as they've been using the Constitution they ratified as toilet paper.
7105  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Our response to Dmytri Kleiner's misunderstanding of money on: November 14, 2012, 06:49:17 AM
I have a credit card and paypal but I cant buy coins at the going rate. That there is the biggest hindrence. != Liquidity.

This forum is more worried about trying to correct people and show how intelligent they are than any other forum ive seen. If you read my post you'll fully understand.  It is pretty straight forward regardless of me saying liquidity or illiquidity. Its a liquidity issue.

No, it's showing how stupid I am, because I can't see why liquidity/illiquidity, Bitcoin, credit cards & PayPal should even appear in the same paragraph.
7106  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Corporal Punishment (Re: Our response to Dmytri Kleiner's misunderstanding of money on: November 14, 2012, 05:52:09 AM
See no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil.
7107  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Corporal Punishment (Re: Our response to Dmytri Kleiner's misunderstanding of money on: November 14, 2012, 05:45:10 AM
The slave comment was your's, and I do have the right to defend my child with deadly force whether or not you perceive my actions as abuse or not.

Except that myrkul said "We would likely have something of this very conversation". So you would NOT be defending your child with deadly force, you would be responding to myrkul's mere vocalizations towards you with lead traveling at high velocity at his vital organs. That is a disproportionate response. How the frack can you justify killing a man for merely speaking to you? Jeezus...
7108  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Our response to Dmytri Kleiner's misunderstanding of money on: November 14, 2012, 05:24:51 AM
I have a credit card and paypal but I cant buy coins at the going rate. That there is the biggest hindrence. != Liquidity.
7109  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Corporal Punishment (Re: Our response to Dmytri Kleiner's misunderstanding of money on: November 14, 2012, 02:42:21 AM
<sigh>  I had high hopews for you Myrkul

I claim that any parent has a responsibility to attend to the well being of his/her offsspring due to Jurius Naturalis.  The natural laws.
Then, your child has rights? Believe it or not, we are actually in agreement here. The problem comes in when you attempt to protect those rights by violating them. (This may be a familiar argument.) Why do you disrespect those rights by hitting them, or otherwise abusing the child?

"They who can take away essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve no power to govern liberty or safety."
-Benny Frankel

But I am for damn sure going to step in and stop you from beating your child in front of me. We would likely have something of this very conversation, right there in the street.

  Practially speaking, we could not have this debate at that time on the street, because one or both of us would be dead or dying.
Lovely. First the slave comment, and now you've stated that you will defend your "right" to abuse your child with deadly force. You're really starting to disgust me.

This sounds a lot like the "if guns weren't banned, all road rage incidents would end in fatalities!" Criminals' Union meme. As if people converse with only gunshots to the head.
7110  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Our response to Dmytri Kleiner's misunderstanding of money on: November 14, 2012, 02:17:02 AM
I have a credit card and paypal but I cant buy coins at the going rate.

Because the going rate is based on irreversible payment methods. Credit card, PayPal? "Great, I received 20000 BTC, now it's time to call my credit card company/PayPal and tell them to reverse the charge because 'the goods weren't received' or 'I was hacked'! Then I can sell the BTC for gold and I'll be fucking rich!"
7111  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Corporal Punishment (Re: Our response to Dmytri Kleiner's misunderstanding of money on: November 13, 2012, 09:31:41 PM
I love the term Livestockholm syndrome.
7112  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Corporal Punishment (Re: Our response to Dmytri Kleiner's misunderstanding of money on: November 13, 2012, 06:47:43 AM
So can the established case law, BTW.

Let's not bring established case law into this, when established case law shows justices bending over backward to support the violation of the widest spectrum of enumerated constitutional/civil/human rights.
7113  Economy / Services / Re: Nice, DeadMansSwitch.net now accepting bitcoin... on: November 12, 2012, 11:16:04 PM
One half of private key on DMS. Second half tattooed on the scalp.

DMS has instructions that the head is to be shaved before burial/cremation to retrieve the second half.

Can also be tattooed elsewhere that normally wouldn't be visible.
7114  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Corporal Punishment (Re: Our response to Dmytri Kleiner's misunderstanding of money on: November 12, 2012, 07:15:40 AM
At what point does this get fairly locked, since the mod always has the last word before the lock?
7115  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Our response to Dmytri Kleiner's misunderstanding of money on: November 11, 2012, 02:01:09 AM
Yep. It's right in the language. Libertarian=liberty. Government=govern (manipulate, control, restrain).
7116  Other / Archival / Re: [WTS] Buffalo WHR-HP-G300N router on: November 11, 2012, 01:51:28 AM
Thread locked to prevent the online equivalent of billboard vandalism.

Bump because it's still available.
7117  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: Have lr need BTC on: November 11, 2012, 01:38:27 AM
Liberty Reserve itself charges 1% to receive funds, doesn't it?
7118  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Our response to Dmytri Kleiner's misunderstanding of money on: November 10, 2012, 08:56:21 PM
Derrive=derive.
7119  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Bitcoin, the City traders' anarchic new toy on: November 10, 2012, 08:32:10 PM
Horribly out of date, and should probably be moved to Press or deleted if it's already been posted there.
7120  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Best way to take bitcoins instore? on: November 10, 2012, 08:26:27 PM
Print QR code up of your store's address, with text version below. Put preev.com in one browser tab, blockchain.info/address/youraddresshere in the other. Customer comes to checkout, says "I'm ready to checkout, what's the Bitcoin price?" You put the fiat value in preev.com, it live-converts it to BTC. You tell the customer. Customer scans QR or types address in their mobile wallet, fills the amount, sends it. You hear a beep from blockchain.info - that is the unconfirmed transaction. Since double-spends are unlikely with mobile clients, you print a receipt using the txid, hand it to customer, done.
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