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7141  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: [Da Dice] Signature Campaign Discussion Thread | Join The Fun! on: April 20, 2015, 09:32:58 AM
Edit:

Maybe we could start to post here which posts are of someone wearing a dadice signature are (elaborated) spam?

I am no particular fan of publicly shaming someone into conformation, but it would certainly give you ndnhc a few ideas who to look closer at.

I dont think that posting someone's post spam here is a good idea, since doing so will lead this thread into a quarrel thread between few other people who trashed someone's post by considering it as a spam. Best thing to do is to PM ndnhc privately about someone's spam post

How should we encourage participants who post in relevant boards like Gambling board?

We shouldn't do this, everyone should be free on where to posts, by encouraging someone with less interest to post in the gambling boards will only lead the board to be spammed by the spammers
7142  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: [Da Dice] Signature Campaign Discussion Thread | Join The Fun! on: April 19, 2015, 11:47:08 PM
Would anyone mind if we exclude Meta and Beginners and Help boards from next week?

You can certainly post there, but only it won't be counted. But, if we find very useful posts in Beginners and Help we will certainly count them. Smiley

What do you think?


I guess I think it's kinda a bad idea.  The more you limit which posts you pay for the less competitive your campaign is (remember "da best campaign"?).  Secondarily, why wouldn't dadice want to advertize in these sections.  In Meta you often have very intelligent discussions going about the forum itself and how it should be run, how it is run.  There are a lot of old-school bitcoiners in that section.  Surely dadice wants them to come gambling.

Similarly, beginners and help can be a great place where the dadice message can be associated with positivity and contructiveness.  When someone is stuck on a technical detail, and someone else answers them with dadice signature, I would think that would be a valuable association for dadice.

You got a point, but ndnhc has already excluded two boards for next week due to the high number of spam in that boards. For me, I do think that it is better to stricten up the post counting rather than excluding some boards as there are always potential new player for the sites and also the spammer will move from the excluded boards because it is not counted anymore.

By strictening the post counting, some spammers will get their lesson and the risk of not getting paid for their spam post and also a risk to be reported to badbear as well

Well, this is how I see it should be handled, anyway the decision will be up to ndnhc, bf4btc and also dadice

Announcement:
Beginners & Help and Politics & Society boards will be excluded from next week on-wards.

You may however post there as usual. They won't be counted tho.
7143  Economy / Gambling / Re: BitcoinPoker.gg - High Stakes. High Rewards - Secure Bitcoin Poker on: April 19, 2015, 10:05:45 PM
We have had a lot of requests for a GTD tournament and will be setting one up very soon.

What type of buy-in would everyone like to see for a GTD? We can base what we add to the GTD tournaments once we get an idea of what a good buy-in amount is?

Maybe something like 5 or 10mBTC with a GTD of 100mBTC?

Let us know!

Im not trying to advertise another site here, but at the other sites which I usually play, there is always 150 mbtc GTD there daily with 5mbtc buy in + 1 mbtc house fee, and 5 mbtc for the rebuy option and there are like 5-10 players for each of the game with lot of rebuys. You can either make this daily or atleast 1x / 3 days for now to get more interest to your site.
Combine this GTD with hourly freerolls of small amounts, the purposes of this small amounts is to encourage people to use it for the GTD
7144  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: [Da Dice] Signature Campaign Discussion Thread | Join The Fun! on: April 19, 2015, 09:41:17 PM
ndhnc do you accept more senior members
because i seen that you got 25/25 would you accept more?

It is ndnhc. Smiley  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1026731.0  lol Wink

Yeah, Just changed it to 7 total spots available.. Wink
please reserve me 1 spot
i will be joining next sunday!!!i really like you campaign!!

Im sorry but I do think there is no reserve in spot for this since the demand to join this campaign is quite high at the moment  Cheesy . Since you will be joining in next sunday which is 7 more days from now, I do think that is it better for you to just join up now since you have just gotten your payment
7145  Economy / Gambling / Re: Best About Satoshimine.com on: April 19, 2015, 07:55:50 PM
Yeah may it could be happened. Can you please tell me What does House edge exactly mean? and how is it work?

house edge is a ratio of the loss that a gambling site expected from your initial bet
in short 1 % house edge means that for every bet you make there will be 1 % loss from your initial bet in average. If you are to visit a dice sites that has 1 % house edge you can see that for 50 % chance to win, you will get just 1.95x 1.98x of your bet instead of 2x of your bet.

Hm...On a dice site with 1% house edge, you will get 1.98x of your bet for winning a 50% bet, as the expected value of such bet would be 99% (=1.98*50%) in this case.
If the site gives you 1.95x back, the house edge would indeed be 2.5%.

sorry wrong typing on my end, edited it already and thanks for clarifying. I was multitasking while Im making the posts, I was supposed to put in 1.98x for my explanation there but somehow I typed in 1.95x . thanks  Smiley
7146  Economy / Gambling / Re: Best About Satoshimine.com on: April 19, 2015, 07:36:03 PM
Yeah may it could be happened. Can you please tell me What does House edge exactly mean? and how is it work?

house edge is a ratio of the loss that a gambling site expected from your initial bet
in short 1 % house edge means that for every bet you make there will be 1 % loss from your initial bet in average. If you are to visit a dice sites that has 1 % house edge you can see that for 50 % chance to win, you will get just 1.98x of your bet instead of 2x of your bet.

7147  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: How is BitMixer.io? Successful service or no go poll! | Stats for us all on: April 19, 2015, 06:59:30 PM
It is hard to determine wether the service been successfull or not, because there is no such data about how many coins being mixed or their service being used by users daily. However due to that there isnt any severe complain from their thread, It can be actually safe to say that their service is being successfull.

If they released this kind of information then it would be possible to determine their addresses which would make their service less effective.

Right, that is why I wrote that it is hard to determine wether the service has been successfull or not. Althought I do think it will be hard to determine their address even if they release the data of this but it most likely is a succesfull services considering that their thread is clean from complaints and their signature campaign is still running until now
7148  Economy / Services / Re: DA DICE Signature Campaign - 'Da' BEST Yet | HIGHEST RATES! | JOIN THE FUN! on: April 19, 2015, 05:12:34 PM
Currently resrecited to signature campaign participants only. Sorry. Sad

it is 10% bonus for full avatar and 5% on add-on, atm. Smiley

ndnhc, what does "add-on" mean, in this context.?

Avatar like mine is an example of add ons.  Wink
7149  Economy / Services / Re: [Pesobang.com] Avatar & PM campaign on: April 19, 2015, 05:11:30 PM
you might want to exclude this user as he got no permission to enter your avatar campaign from his current signature campaign manager

Name:   christycalhoun
Posts:   158
Bitcoin address:   1KL9CPnFikHDeQsYin8q7Toxmi7M9L2V34

Can I Join Other Avatar campaign. Because I want to Join pesobang Avatar campaign?

No.
7150  Other / Meta / Re: Trim or eliminate "default trust" on: April 19, 2015, 04:58:21 PM
3) some people on default trust even make a hobby of marking red on people who haven't ever traded with them but with whom they simply disagree (see, for example, Vod vs MSCorp Key Sellers; or Quickseller vs. people who refuse to do business with him (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1023038.0, inter alia))

Trust isnt moderate and everyone has the ability to give negative trust to someone based on his judgement, but only those of default trust will be visible to the other
In this case, vod and quickseller got their own point of view regarding the matter and also the red trust is merely a guide for people to do some extra caution while dealing with user with red trust


allow people to build their own trust networks based on experience.

You can already do this with the current system, you can exclude vod or quickseller as well if you wish


3) Replace large red "Warning trade with extreme caution!" warning with softer, yellow "This person has received negative feedback from someone in your trust list."  Even just this latter fix would help calm the hype, imo.

This is unnecesary if you build your own trust list

But I will propose to make a specific colour for neutral trust, because a neutral trust from default trust list member isnt visible unless you click on the trust score to check. This could be one of the reason why people like to put on negative trust rather than neutral trust even if the issue is already solved
7151  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: [Da Dice] Signature Campaign Discussion Thread | Join The Fun! on: April 19, 2015, 04:29:33 PM
I dont mind about it since I dont posted in beginners and help section , the same goes for meta section which I spent less time to monitor there

EDIT : another option is to stricten up the counting as I do see some of the post in beginners and help is usefull enough .

For example when someone newbie asking about what is a signed message, first and second posts explaining about it might be usefull , but e

Any reason why meta is excluded because I dont see much spam for this section , instead, politics and society is the section that has higher spam post imo
continous explanation about the same answer is considered a spam

Meta board is not being considered because of that, just that it is not very relevant to signature campaigns. Wink

There is an issue with stricting up more though, some of the participants will get very small amounts...



Good point, but also you should note that limiting the boards will actually makes the spammers to move their spam post too, once you excluded meta, beginners and help and the other boards, the spammer will find another boards to spam. That is why I choose to stricten up the counting tho  Smiley

Yes, that is exactly the counter point we face.. Sad

Since bit-x might soon exclude the entire other section and we also do kind of the same, all spam will go to marketplace and economy boards. (If that is the case, it is going to be stricter as you said)

right, this is like double edge swords, whichever option is selected there will be a counter for that and there is already alot of spam in there which you can see that lot of same user keep on asking this

Quote
can you sign a message from an old edited posts

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has the account been banned before?

Quote
the account price is too high, bla bla bla ...

Quote
your site is great, bla bla bla

Not to mention alot more  Wink


I haven't excluded, nor have I said that I will exclude, the whole other board.

If i remember correctly , you posted that you gonna exclude meta and the beginners and help, but I could find it, did you delete them or you never posted it?
7152  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: [Da Dice] Signature Campaign Discussion Thread | Join The Fun! on: April 19, 2015, 03:53:31 PM
I dont mind about it since I dont posted in beginners and help section , the same goes for meta section which I spent less time to monitor there

EDIT : another option is to stricten up the counting as I do see some of the post in beginners and help is usefull enough .

For example when someone newbie asking about what is a signed message, first and second posts explaining about it might be usefull , but e

Any reason why meta is excluded because I dont see much spam for this section , instead, politics and society is the section that has higher spam post imo
continous explanation about the same answer is considered a spam

Meta board is not being considered because of that, just that it is not very relevant to signature campaigns. Wink

There is an issue with stricting up more though, some of the participants will get very small amounts...



Good point, but also you should note that limiting the boards will actually makes the spammers to move their spam post too, once you excluded meta, beginners and help and the other boards, the spammer will find another boards to spam. That is why I choose to stricten up the counting tho  Smiley
7153  Economy / Services / Re: [Pesobang.com] Avatar & PM campaign on: April 19, 2015, 03:35:24 PM

Our rates :

0.03 BTC/month for 40 posts or more.
0.05 BTC/month for 70 posts or more.
0.07 BTC/month for 100 posts or more.


Please revise the rates. This seems too low.

Why is this low? this is only for avatar and PM campaign not to include your signature, you can combine this with your signature campaign to maximize your earning, that if it is allowed. I do think this is a decent rate.

Hi,
We are launching an Avatar & PM campaign, we are looking for 20 active members.


EDIT :
to OP

avatar + PM campaign only is not really good in advertising your site because it has not clickable link, you can chime in your signature campaign as well tho https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1019714.0

EDIT2 :
No advertisement/brand in your signature will be accepted

It seems like it is not allowed to have another signatures at your signatures spot


EDIT3 : OP has deleted the condition for it, you can have another signatures at your spot
7154  Economy / Gambling / Re: Best About Satoshimine.com on: April 19, 2015, 03:16:40 PM
Because Most of other Site has Only One Withdrawing address, While Coinbase has many Withdrawing address. So It would be more good if you use coinbase, which is mentioned above.

There is no need to do so, because satoshimine doesnt state that we cant make several accounts in the site , by several accounts I means several unique url link and using coinbase for a gambling activity might get your account to be closed down as coinbase has been more tight in seeking funds realted from gambling activity

What is the point of using Coinbase?
The site is provably fair, and your chance of winning is still the same no matter you deposit bitcoin from the same address or not.

Yes it is the same no matter where you get your coins from.

I think It did matter, Because A month ago I use to use this site, And When I use btc-e as payment method, But my loosing ratio with the winnig was high. Because they recorded my btc address. And yesterday I used this site with coinbase i think it really worked most of the time. im not saying every time but most of the time it really worked.

It didnt and it could be just your bad luck, because the site is provably fair, unless you can proof that they rigged the game but honestly I've never seen complain about their site being not provably fair.

Isnt btc-e used a different address to send out each of the withdrawal because it is an exchanger site?no idea with this, since I thought that all exchanger/gambling sites use different address for each withdrawal
7155  Economy / Economics / Re: I read a thread on destroying bitcoins I have a better idea. on: April 19, 2015, 01:56:29 PM
isn't better to spend bitcoin instead of destroying them(not exchanging them for fiat)? spending them for goods is like destroying them but you get something for their value...

why do you think this is a good idea? the seller of the good will ofcourse change it back to fiat to cover the capital he used to purchase the goods.

that's the real problem, the owner should not convert them to fiat, but use those to buy something else, it will make a chain where bitcoin is not changed for fiat ever

Still to early for that and for that to happen in the future, all the countries will need to adopt bitcoin as currency which is unlikely so this "chain" which you mentioned isnt realistic for now because sooner or later at some points, the seller who adopts bitcoin will likely change it back to fiat again
7156  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: [Da Dice] Signature Campaign Discussion Thread | Join The Fun! on: April 19, 2015, 01:39:50 PM
Would anyone mind if we exclude Meta and Beginners and Help boards from next week?

You can certainly post there, but only it won't be counted. But, if we find very useful posts in Beginners and Help we will certainly count them. Smiley

What do you think?


I dont mind about it since I dont posted in beginners and help section , the same goes for meta section which I spent less time to monitor there

Any reason why meta is excluded because I dont see much spam for this section , instead, politics and society is the section that has higher spam post imo


EDIT : another option is to stricten up the counting as I do see some of the post in beginners and help is usefull enough .

For example when someone newbie asking about what is a signed message, first and second posts explaining about it might be usefull , but continous explanation about the same answer is considered a spam
7157  Economy / Economics / Re: I read a thread on destroying bitcoins I have a better idea. on: April 19, 2015, 01:20:21 PM



sending to the genesis address will ofcourse make it unspendable for some time, but buying small amount from coinbase/another bitcoin exchanger will not levitate the value in one night either. Bitcoin will only reach it true value once we had full amount in circulation

okay if 1000 people buy 0.019 btc  that is 190 btc and we both know that is not going to move price up.

If 10000 people buy that is 1900btc and that is almost 1 diff adjustment price will trend up.

If 100,000 people buy that is 19,000 btc and that is 9.42 diff adjustments.   You can be certain price will move upwards.


If 1,000,000 people buy that is 190,000 btc and that is more then 94.2 diff adjustments since 34 adjustments from now we do the half to 12.5.

My idea costs the individual 0.001 btc given to the genesis block. Buying 0.019 btc from an exchange is not a cost so to speak.

To show I put my money were my mouth is I will post my donation to the genesis block and my purchase from coinbase.

I am not promoting coinbase as a superior place to buy btc  I have my account there.  I don't care where you buy the 0.019 btc

Fair points, and with logical thinking that will be achievable, but you ought to take into the account that for every buy there is a sell, someone who buy 0.019 at this current price might sell it right after the price levitate a bit. Not everyone buy bitcoin to hold off in long term as most people are opportunity seeker, so whenever the price goes up, you can expect there will be some sell pressure as well

cheers
7158  Economy / Gambling / Re: Luckybit on: April 19, 2015, 01:06:16 PM
The how to play section is good for newbiews as i have hardly ever sent a transaction with 0 fees Tongue Blockchain is good at adding a good fee amount autmatically Cheesy

blockchain put in the miners fee automatically but you will be able to set up a custom transaction which you could set up your own miners fee or not to put in the miners fee. Some people actually stingy enough to put in less than the recommended miners fee, which makes the transaction on either medium or low priority

7159  Economy / Services / Re: 64Blocks ░▒▓ The Social Game! ▓▒░ » Signature Campaign on: April 19, 2015, 01:03:33 PM
Name:    godmode3D
Posts:    32
Activity:    28
Position:    Newbie
address:    16jLuS7UNrLXChzDfWbcrA1B8MWPvh7vAC

hook me up, when are payouts?
thanks for joining owr campaing I have added u on the doc.and bitclever will tell you when he will give the payouts
arent you the campaign manager? you should have control of the funds

edit: and please let the OP put a link to the spreadsheet on the top post

Not all campaign manager has fund in their possesion although most campaign manager act as an escrow for the campaign aswell but for this case, I think Dabs will be acting as the escrow for this signature campaign which you can find on his posts

It would probably be a good idea to offer escrow as you are very new here and it would not be advisable for people to join without any kind of guarantee of receipt of payment.

Don't worry, I got his back. It's my site he's advertising. I'll make it more formal if you really want one.
7160  Economy / Economics / Re: I read a thread on destroying bitcoins I have a better idea. on: April 19, 2015, 12:54:28 PM
isn't better to spend bitcoin instead of destroying them(not exchanging them for fiat)? spending them for goods is like destroying them but you get something for their value...

why do you think this is a good idea? the seller of the good will ofcourse change it back to fiat to cover the capital he used to purchase the goods.


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1000565.0;all

I say we all donate 0.001 btc to the genesis block address.

And we all buy 0.019 btc from coinbase or any real exchange of btc.

total cost = 0.02 btc  most is in your pocket  and if anyone should get a 0.001 btc the founder of btc deserves it.

first tx id

https://blockchain.info/tx/4a5e1e4baab89f3a32518a88c31bc87f618f76673e2cc77ab2127b7afdeda33b



first btc addy

https://blockchain.info/address/1A1zP1eP5QGefi2DMPTfTL5SLmv7DivfNa

this would not cost much and could cause some price boost.

sending to the genesis address will ofcourse make it unspendable for some time, but buying small amount from coinbase/another bitcoin exchanger will not levitate the value in one night either. Bitcoin will only reach it true value once we had full amount in circulation
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