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7181  Other / Politics & Society / Re: NSA has it's own spy search engine, there is no more privacy on: August 30, 2014, 03:08:13 AM
The best protection we have is the huge ammount of data that is produced, most of them useless.

We can stay more or less anonymous, if we manage to avoid things that would attract attention to the surveilance agencies

Well for now the main problem is when Big Data sets can be converted into measurable relevant data
If it can filter out all the noise then we have a problem.
Most of that data is social data so once they are able to get everyone's information innocent or not it brings the idea of anonymity to uncharted waters.
7182  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Julian Assange Announces Plan to Leave Ecuadorian Embassy 'Soon' on: August 30, 2014, 02:42:21 AM
I don't understand why he announces he's about to move. He should have left without a fuss, now there will be people looking for him.

I am also interested why they would make a press announcement
Perhaps he made a plea deal but it is worth watching how this turns out.

Also be it as it may, he may be better off in Russia if he can sneak his way over there.
I would doubt that he made a plea deal. One possibility is that he he announced his pending departure to see how cars leaving the embassy and and planes leaving the country are looked at by the local government. Ecuador is one of the countries that Snowden wanted to exile to but was unable to make it, so it may be a distraction for him to be able to leave.

That may actually be correct, if his group is monitoring the traffic and movements of people who enter and leave the embassy and what they do when they monitor them, then it makes sense to use a good sample size and then determine which method is the most efficient one to escape.

That or Assange builds a tunnel sneaks into the sewage system comes out outside the embassy and then takes a ride safely away from there with no one the wiser.
Sounds like The Great Escape ^_^.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Great_Escape_%28film%29
7183  Economy / Economics / Re: Ideas to raise the value of BTC or LTC on: August 30, 2014, 02:34:38 AM
Hello Reader,

Will TV commercials, billboard advertising and sponsoring events or racecars raise the value of BTC or LTC?

If you have an another Idea please reply. I am thinking of realising one or more ideas.

What will raise the value of LTC or BTC is adoption that said a car tour or events that utilize these types of technologies and give away stuff to new users to learn more or to sign up and try Bitcoin services would be the best way to get it to grow more.
7184  Economy / Economics / Re: Why we give respect to Rich and no-respect to poor? on: August 30, 2014, 02:29:46 AM
hi actually i m not a newbie but newbie in forum Smiley

people love rich and give all respect to them if rich wants they give them ther A** without any reason but the reason behind will be money..

the community only love rick why not poor ,,, poor deserve`s more respect ... poor have much more peace in them expect rich ...

if rich wants help everyone help them if poor wants no one help expect few people


please give me some predictions Smiley

Well the reason is that they had to do something to get that money usually
And well you don't suck up to a poor person you want to emulate the rich one.
Although in a sense only the rich can afford to help the poor as the poor can't do much to help others as they struggle in their day to day lives let alone have time to be concerned for others.

So in the end the rich may not by happiness but the poor will wallow in it, unless they get out of that and then are able to help others as well.
We start the journey together life takes us along many paths but these challenges help us to grow and its how we handle them that levels the playing field between those who succeed and become rich in the future and those that don't and only can dream of it.
7185  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin will plummet to $10 by first half of 2014 on: August 30, 2014, 02:04:27 AM
If it had crashed to $10 there would be half users alive in this forum.. Smiley

That would be a significant amount more than in 2011 when it was around that price
But it would also make me wonder what was the system that superceded bitcoin or if we would still be here at that time Smiley.
7186  Economy / Economics / Re: When will the USA pay their debts, if ever? on: August 30, 2014, 01:59:47 AM
There are 2 ways:

-You stop printing money magically and refuse to pay the debt = you get fucked (argentina)
-You keep playing the printing money game and pray to god shit doesnt crash = (USA)

Yep, that summed up my points more or less in not so many words.
Either keep trying and get your country to scale, then keep playing that game till it crashes or default start fresh and hopefully get a fresh start without all the entanglements.
7187  Economy / Economics / Re: Overstock To let International Customers Pay With Bitcoin on: August 30, 2014, 01:56:24 AM
Overstock shipping fee is too expensive. Not worth buying...

Yes, if they can get their shipping provider to be more efficient then I would move over from amazon or a similar company in a heartbeat but as it is unless the product is significantly more expensive elsewhere there are other bitcoin alternatives like newegg that make more sense to me when factoring in the cost of shipping as well into my purchases.
7188  Economy / Economics / Re: How many Bitcoins does it cost to maintain the Bitcoin network? on: August 30, 2014, 01:53:43 AM
I guess a better question is how much does it cost to maintain the Bitcoin network in comparison to how much it costs to print currencies and maintain the current financial system by off-shoot since he mentioned processing fees he must also consider the same costs for these services in the present. With the costs of hard locations such as banks.

For example, miners (the labor force) are continually competing in a process of 'burning' one type of good (bitcoin) to make the same good (bitcoin). That is to say, they continually have to expend value somewhere with the goal of receiving an equal or larger amount of value in return.

In that case let this be quite clear if bankers (The labor force) are continually competing in a process of providing one type of good (money) to make the same good (money). That is to say, they continually have to expend value somewhere with the goal of receiving an equal or larger amount of value in return.

Let us be quite clear: if Bitcoin was a cheaper or more efficient transaction method, for-profit organizations such as large payment processors would have forked it long ago and would likely already be using it internally in order to shore up their margins.

If a nascent six year old technology could do all that I would be impressed, his preposition is ridiculous organizations are just starting to get into it now who would rely on an unproven technology immediately after it was created.

That said the network keeps increasing the efficiency per unit and electrical costs to mining, as more mining farms start commercializing it will be possible that the hashrate would as well.

As difficulty would only spike when new hardware is replaced in the farms.

In other words I am not convinced by his arguments.
7189  Economy / Economics / Re: Illegal use of Bitcoin affecting its value? on: August 30, 2014, 12:43:20 AM
Has the use of Bitcoin for illegal things such as purchasing drugs, weapons, fraudulent documents and laundering money effected its value?

Yes, in the beginning the first market for Bitcoin besides pizza were for gambling and drug sites such as the Silk road along with other legitimate reasons that said it wasn't such a bad thing since it started in that segment and grew from there to the early mainstream usage we are witnessing now.
I would not consider gambling sites to be an illegal use. The only thing that would make gambling illegal is your physical location verses the location of the website, which is a mere technicality. Gambling in most places of the world is legal, it is just that in many places the government has monopoly over the gambling.

Well there is the legal grey area around online gambling websites, I recall Satoshidice having issues with US users of its site a while back but allowing other gambling jurisdictions to use it.
So I considered it sort of illegal but not illegal in that case, but what I meant is that some of the earliest uses came from there and it grew to more mainstream uses over time.
7190  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Operation Shitcoin Cleanout and Clean Up Has Begun- Join the Revolution- Updated on: August 30, 2014, 12:35:43 AM
I think you need an operation to cleanout the scammers

Seems like a good idea, there are a lot of scammers around but then again Caveat Emperor.
Sigh but there are about as many scams as their are shitcoins lol.
7191  Other / Politics & Society / Re: ECUADOR HERALDS DIGITAL CURRENCY PLANS on: August 30, 2014, 12:07:24 AM
This will be interesting, in essence the Ecuadorian government will remove its ties to Bitcoin and related currencies break the tie with the US dollar and at the same time go all digital by creating their own digital currency.
I have to admit that it does pique my interest and I want to see how this turns out.

In tears  Cheesy

Now now it's not a comedy show just yet  Grin
They still have some cred for keeping Assange in that embassy the whole time, but I think your right this will not end well for Ecuador.

He-he but your right not the best PR the world's first digital currency issued by a central bank XD.
But who knows Bangla-Pesa meets the Central Bank ^^.
http://mobile.nation.co.ke/lifestyle/From-Bangla-Pesa-to-bitcoin-alternative-money-goes-global/-/1950774/2201270/-/format/xhtml/-/yw4s2x/-/index.html
(lol trollbox in feburary versus now Tongue)
7192  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Julian Assange Announces Plan to Leave Ecuadorian Embassy 'Soon' on: August 30, 2014, 12:02:17 AM
To my knowledge Julian Assange is still in the embassy
I wonder if that declaration was to throw people off or something but at the least hes making the UK foot the bill for keeping watch on him.
Assange stakeout has cost nearly $12 million

http://rt.com/news/178276-assange-police-cost-embassy/
 Assange has been detained without charge for 1,337 days – and 777 of those days have been spent in the Ecuadorian embassy in London, according to the latest WikiLeaks statement.

Meanwhile, the price tag for guarding Assange hit over seven million British pounds (US$11.8 million) early on Wednesday, according to govwaste.co.uk counter.

Officers have been staking out the embassy around the clock since June 2012, with the cost to the London taxpayers surpassing $15,000 per day.

It was l337 a while ago and 777 in custody
That was a weird for the way the numbers came out.
7193  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Bank account suspended for buying bitcoins? on: August 29, 2014, 11:57:01 PM
I try to avoid bitcoin transfers as much as possible into bank accounts
Especially if there are other ways to move it say debit cards or credit cards.
When they do occur maybe a safe way is to make sure they are not too large and done over a slow period of time.
Aka consistently as a monthly payment or something.
7194  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Americans Getting Poorer on: August 29, 2014, 11:54:51 PM
Poor for America isn't really poor. It's just not getting what you want. At least they can get a bite of food every day and not have to worry for water.
the point of the OP is that the standard of living is falling across the US due to lower incomes.

In terms of dollar parity and purchasing power for the middle class
http://www.csmonitor.com/Business/2011/1019/A-long-steep-drop-for-Americans-standard-of-living

That said part of it depends on where you live
http://www.expatistan.com/cost-of-living/country/united-states

American still have clean air, clean water and clean environment. That is something the rest of the world have little access to.

Plus we are the freeest most bestest country evar. Merica

In a relative sense when comparing to other countries. Yes, we are still free despite all the spying and peeping tom allegations.


Fair enough in the relative sense but that doesn't mean that the government well more or less the NSA doesn't spend a heck of a lot of money to keep track of what its citizens are doing.
That and 9/11 did help throw privacy out the window more or less by giving police forces old military gear etc.

But clean air clean water and a clean environment are things that are worth cherishing.
7195  Economy / Services / Re: [DiceBitco.in] [Make the most out of your sig!] Make coins by simply posting! on: August 29, 2014, 11:48:08 PM
Looks like a pay cut for the full members and senior members.  After reading the OP and the last few pages, I can't tell if there are stills spots available though.

Read OP more carefully. Signup is on a different thread, and doesn't start until September starts.

So we have to sign up at the beginning of the month thought that this campaign had scaled sign up dates
Aka register mid month you register that day but if not guess I'll keep a note on it myself.
7196  Economy / Securities / Re: ASICMINER Speculation Thread on: August 29, 2014, 11:42:49 PM
Patience is a virtue but I do admit that waiting for a while does get dull
Still been waiting for a long time already a few more days won't hurt much lol.
7197  Other / Politics & Society / Re: NSA has it's own spy search engine, there is no more privacy on: August 29, 2014, 11:36:03 PM
That is why there is a big battle to sort and categorize big data at this time
Conferences on it and lots of money being spent to sort that information since they may have access to it but cannot filter through it fast enough.

The search engine, named ICREACH, contains information on the private communications of foreigners as well as on millions of American citizens innocent of any wrongdoing.

ICREACH, initially projected to cost between $2.5 million and $4.5 million per year, can be used by more than 1,000 analysts working at 23 US government agencies that perform intelligence work, according to a 2010 memo.

Information shared through the program can be used to track people's movements, map out their networks of friends and potentially reveal religious affiliations or political views.


7198  Other / Politics & Society / Re: ECUADOR HERALDS DIGITAL CURRENCY PLANS on: August 29, 2014, 11:27:34 PM
This will be interesting, in essence the Ecuadorian government will remove its ties to Bitcoin and related currencies break the tie with the US dollar and at the same time go all digital by creating their own digital currency.
I have to admit that it does pique my interest and I want to see how this turns out.
7199  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Polygamy Decriminalized in Utah on: August 29, 2014, 11:25:30 PM
I actually have met this family. They are awesome. Im so glad that they won this suit.. To be forced to leave and live in Nevada was idiotic. I dont think that they will move back to Utah. Its kind of ironic that its even illegal, when the Mormons came to Utah they did so that they could practice their religion without prejudice or persecution. But they had to make it illegal to become a state.. I just find it all ironic..

Hmm not that aware of the historical context but that sounds like a neat tid bit of history
Anyways I'm fine with the outcome of this suit myself.

We already decriminalized the lesbians and the homosexuals, who aren't produced any viable offspring  Huh
Why not polygamy ?

As long as it's not abused and is consensual I have no issues with this either.
7200  Economy / Gambling / Re: Primedice | Most Popular Bitcoin Game| 0.91% Edge| PVP | Jackpot | Faucet on: August 29, 2014, 11:16:28 PM
Mobile?

We're finishing testing of this today. Mobile has actually been done for quite some time but there have been a few persistent bugs which prevented us from launching it.

Looking forward to it, not sure if it was mentioned before but what systems will it work for
Android and Apple I presume anyways it will be fun to have something to play with on the go
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