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721  Economy / Speculation / Re: Know your time to HOLD on: July 08, 2023, 05:45:55 PM
What I can conclude from your post is that Bitcoin is the nature of an asset that takes time to buy and sell and that waiting for the desired price is important. Even if you feel disappointed in yourself because the price did not reach the expected level, however, your determination to make money with Bitcoin remains strong. Bitcoin HODLing is a sound strategy because it has the potential to provide positive results in the long term, despite price fluctuations in the short term.
Another conclusion that can be said for this is about sufficient patience when someone is still trying to make a holding for a long time. Because if someone only thinks about the price in the short term while holding Bitcoin, it is more a trading effort that usually only looks at profits for a certain amount. Meanwhile, Holding's mission is actually for greater profits with the achievement of a time that may not be short so that someone will not always check prices in the market and feel worried about price declines in the short term.
722  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why are you not hodling on: July 08, 2023, 05:28:26 PM
We have a different status,we also have different income we have different works, most of us wanted to hold but because of the financial problem they cannot hold btc, some of us here is a holder it is because they have a free funds or thier financial status is good that is why they can hold a different coin they wanted to hold.
Such a thing cannot be denied because basically holding anything must have basic capital or other supporting capital so that a person does not easily sell what he is holding or what he is keeping for a long time. Because letting go of what we hold on to is not always for the benefits we have seen, but there are also times when there is a sudden need for money for life so that it is sometimes forced to be done by someone.

The real is that I don't hold any tokens because I don't have enough money. Because holding requires having money that has not been put to good use. But I trade with less money than what I currently have. From which I got out with a small profit. Now I am a day trader. So I don't hold on to any token for a long time.
Being a day trader is also not wrong, because you have also learned to hold in the short term, even if it is only for the purpose of small amounts of profit. And apart from that, actually everyone also learns from small things and tries to develop themselves to be able to do big things like holding large amounts for a long period of time. So it doesn't matter if you only become a day trader because you don't have enough money to hold on for a long time because what you are doing is also a very good thing.
723  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Accepting Bitcoin on: July 08, 2023, 05:14:18 PM
Since you are a newbie you must have maximum understanding about Bitcoin. You must know what Bitcoin actually is,where it originated from etc. You can't do everything in a hurry. You said Bitcoin is not supported by the government in your country, so how can you invest in Bitcoin. Do Still you telling your mother about Bitcoin is very good but it remains to be seen how your mother will take it. I guess people of previous era will take it differently. You have taken the initiative to use Bitcoin in your mother's tailor shop but how will your country's government take it? You can hold Bitcoin because it can make you a lot of profit in future.

Don't be surprised by this mate, because someone can still invest in Bitcoin without the government knowing what's in their country or without having to tell the government about what they're investing in. But if he wants to use Bitcoin at his tailor shop in terms of payment, I think he can only do it with certain people if in his country Bitcoin is still not legalized by the government for payment terms.

So he can still do these two things as long as he knows how and doesn't have to spit on many people for what he did as long as the government still views Bitcoin as a bad thing. But on the one hand, he actually has to try to convince the government about Bitcoin so that the government can issue special rules for Bitcoin users in their country. It's just that of course it's not easy for him to do because it really needs a special moment and way to do it because what he's facing is the government in his country.
724  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin as an opportunity for the unbanked. on: July 08, 2023, 04:52:07 PM
I am sure that in the future there will be many people who store their assets in bitcoin because many banking investments are currently disrupted, and we can manage bitcoin assets ourselves without having to be handled by a third party, and we will be more profitable if later the bitcoin assets that we have have a price that can increase and the value will exceed interest in banking institutions that are present at this time, especially now that blockchain technology is increasingly sophisticated and security is also getting maximum.
Bitcoin is always good to save and invest for the future with several advantages that Bitcoin already has. But as long as you continue to use fiat in your personal life and cannot stay away from fiat in any way, you still really need the bank in your life even if you try to save as much Bitcoin as possible for future investment reasons. Because I really feel this way in life where I can't stay away from the bank when I still rely on fiat in my life even though on the one hand I also like to keep Bitcoin until now.
725  Economy / Speculation / Re: will bitcoin continue to rise on: July 07, 2023, 04:14:35 PM
Just a small correction, and pay attention to the price at the beginning of July, BTC is already at $ 30,700 and it will continue to rise in the next 4 days. Just excuses. many are already paid and the potential for demand is high. At least the BTC price is 31K. Even if there is a change I don't really think so.
The price of Bitcoin is still moving between $30K to $31K and that is a pretty decent price at the moment before heading to $35K and $40K as there will likely continue to be a lot of people willing to take advantage of this year to continue buying so the price increases before the year there will still be a future even if it continues to be guarded by small corrections every day.


The price is now post today's correction starting to show signs of increasing from the initial price of $ 29,701 and starting to move slowly $ 30. 361. However, I am also a bit doubtful whether this will continue to rise because in these 2 days at the weekend there will be selling even though the percentage is small.
There is no need to hesitate to upgrade, because it will always be with Bitcoin as long as there is more buying demand going on in the market. And you yourself have seen how many people support Bitcoin, where the lowest price you mentioned also happened in a short time. This indicates that currently there are still many people who want to buy Bitcoin so the potential for a price increase will still occur in the near future, although not to a very significant level.
726  Economy / Economics / Re: Landed properties is the best investment on: July 07, 2023, 03:33:27 PM
Industrial investment is best preferred to landed properties investment but landed properties is quite a profitable investment where it has the potential of Peace of mind and financial security free and less risks in a management system.
Regardless of the considerations many people have when they want to invest, the first thing that makes more people love investing is the level of return they can get after doing it. This means that consideration in the profit sector will always be more than consideration in the maintenance sector for the investment assets they have, because when an investment can be more profitable, of course anyone will be more enthusiastic about taking care of their own assets to keep them looking good.

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Landed properties investments also terms to enhance developments in the local regions where it could bring beautifications to the environments and it's a competitive section of investment where your structures could be felt outed over other new landed properties within the same region.
Land is definitely a very good investment, but it is also necessary to look at where it is located because not all land can be equal in price when it is not in a neighborhood that is liked by many people. This means that the location of the land also needs to be looked at so that the price increase can occur more quickly when someone has bought it at a lower price and it also needs to be kept clean for a certain period of time so that the land looks clean and not dirty with unwanted bushes.
727  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Seniors vs Kids — in the future of Bitcoin on: July 07, 2023, 03:02:28 PM
for now bitcoin is not something that everyone has to know, and I think we know bitcoin at this time just to make a profit from bitcoin, while children will find their own way, indeed knowledge of technological development is very important to know, but don't have to go deep into it. when our children grow up, maybe bitcoin has been legalized as currency, then what we are looking for to support our children's family is basically money, and that can be obtained from their profession later. as parents we should only direct the talent of the child

Parents who know their duties in terms of guiding and educating their children will definitely not immediately give hard lessons for a child to understand. Because when someone is able to educate and look after their child properly, of course that person will also know what things they are allowed to teach their child at a certain age so that in the end they will teach things that might be harder than usual. Because not everything has to be taught from the start if a child has not had a very sufficient educational period in his life.

Regarding Bitcoin, I think Bitcoin is quite famous now and without being overly promoted, many people already know about it, although there are still many people who don't have it until now. Because there are so many discussions on Bitcoin on the internet and everyone who can connect to the internet can access several websites to read about Bitcoin and also study it carefully if they have an interest in Bitcoin.
728  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Why can't I upload an avatar on my profile on: July 06, 2023, 01:01:55 PM
Hello guys, my question may seem silly but I have to ask this as I've tried all I could  to upload an avatar on my profile but to no avail and I don't know whats wrong or if anyone is experiencing this same issue or are there some restrictions on my account?

I will appreciate  if you guys just help clear me on this without much criticism please.

There is nothing wrong with you and also no one is criticizing you about this question you asked. I think a forum staff member has also provided a fairly precise answer to your question, even though it's short, but easy enough for you to understand. Now your job is just to try and be patient to upgrade your account according to the conditions that apply to everyone so that you can use the avatar you want on your own profile and at least you have to be a Full Member, not a Junior Member or Member mate.
729  Economy / Speculation / Re: What are your bitcoin May/June price analysis? on: July 06, 2023, 12:51:40 PM
Today there is a correction that is around 3% and makes the price drop below $ 25k, of course many are worried that the price will continue to drop and below $ 20k, this proves that the strategy to sell immediately when a profit is at least 10% is the best way, We see whether Bitcoin can return to $ 30K this month or not.
You said that in the middle of last month and I hope you also didn't miss the opportunity to see how the Bitcoin price was at the end of last month and also at the beginning of this month. Because I have seen how Bitcoin passed the price of $31K earlier this month even though the correction is still happening, but what makes me still optimistic is that there is still an increase in price not so long after the correction in Bitcoin. So I think the way you suggest is still not suitable for running now, especially in terms of selling Bitcoin faster.

doesn't seem to be happening and it's rising again and could be $30K, but overall since the start of the year it's seen a 2x increase, which is a very good thing. at least we hope that if there is a correction not to the same as at the beginning of the year and can be in the range of $ 17K-$ 20K, of course it is very good, especially if it can stay at $ 35K-$ 45K until the end of the year, before it will increase slowly at the beginning of entering the era of halving period in 2024.
A price range of $35K-$45K for the year is a pretty logical thing to expect as I've seen Bitcoin come close to $32K several times in the past few days. This means that Bitcoin could be at $ 35K in the near future if the increase continues and does not experience a large correction like last year. I believe this because next year there will be a halving period which is usually the best moment for Bitcoin to increase in price even more significantly.
730  Economy / Economics / Re: What will you do when you have Financial Freedom? on: July 06, 2023, 12:25:14 PM
sometimes the child's wishes are different from the parents' wishes, and of course we cannot force the child's will. because many parents advise their children to continue the business that their parents have developed. as long as the child enjoys doing his hobby, the parents just have to direct him not to get off the path he has chosen, so that by doing what he likes, the child will be more enthusiastic about developing and does not have to be in accordance with the wishes of the parents
What you say is really wise, because I think a child must also be self-aware that to be a successful person it is always difficult and not easy so the direction of his own parents is of course to achieve success in himself by trying to be more independent when he has continued the efforts of her parents. So a child must be able to consider this wisely rather than prioritizing a hobby that he likes, even though a hobby can also generate a lot of money as long as it is done consistently and not just for fun.

It must also be realized that every child has his own desires and ideals,
so that the role of parents is to direct it and help develop it,
discussion between child and parent is very important.
It's very important, it's obviously very important. Because discussions between children and people really have to be there and have to be very open because this is related to business and money issues. So desires and hobbies must be distinguished correctly so as not to disturb a child's concentration, because there are many people who end up having difficulties after following their own hobbies rather than directing their parents on a better path.
731  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Will World Economic Depression Affect Bitcoin? on: July 06, 2023, 11:53:44 AM
In my opinion, the world economic depression can affect Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies. An economic depression can create uncertainty in financial markets as a whole, affect Bitcoin demand and adoption, and create correlations with traditional markets. Nonetheless, there is also a view that Bitcoin can serve as a hedge asset in difficult economic situations. However, please note that there is no guarantee how Bitcoin will react in a world economic depression scenario.

Now the reaction from Bitcoin itself is also very clear in the market, where price bounces upward are always there and are very visible after a price correction. I also don't think that the world's economic conditions are going well, but I still firmly believe that Bitcoin's condition will continue to improve this year and everyone can buy it now before it becomes more expensive in the market.

The world economic depression could also be affected by the existence of several large businesses whose sales were not smooth and resulted in fewer purchases. Apart from that, the large number of unemployed and the low salary received by many employees can also be a trigger so that everyone must try to save on themselves because if there are difficulties in the economic sector it will also hinder other sectors in this world.
732  Economy / Speculation / Re: Can Bitcoin be trusted? on: July 02, 2023, 09:23:02 AM
First of all we are under no obligation or obligation to share with others what Bitcoin is. It is up to us whether we want to do it or not. Unless someone shows us an interest in really learning about Bitcoin, which is still up to us whether we explain it to people or not, it's not that simple, right?
Because no matter what we or others say, there is and still is a risk attached to the truth and those who trust in it should be called paring risk taker, it should be you or us.

It's clearly quite simple for this kind of thing, because basically everyone has freedom in liking something and also in being interested in something so that it will show itself to everyone. This means that those who show interest in Bitcoin will definitely try to learn things related to Bitcoin and then ask people who already know about Bitcoin.

Meanwhile, those who don't like Bitcoin but already know Bitcoin, no matter what they want to explain, they still don't like Bitcoin, but there are also people who don't like Bitcoin because they don't know it yet. Well, actually what needs to be given an understanding and explanation here is for people who don't know Bitcoin, not for those who already know Bitcoin, even though we also have full rights to remain silent and not explain anything related to Bitcoin.
733  Economy / Economics / Re: Should I Use Emergency funds or Sell my Assets ? on: July 02, 2023, 08:17:20 AM
Economic problems have always haunted us, especially now that the financial situation is getting worse and those of us who have assets certainly have to make considerations to use these funds, if that has become the only way we have to do, then just sell the assets you have so that your problems are quickly resolved and later you have to find a way so that everything you spend now you can have back, Because right now it is indeed in a difficult situation.

I don't think that's a good solution, because you also have to provide a more direct or more precise explanation of what situation is currently difficult? Because as long as there are ways and ways that can be taken to solve the problem, I don't think a person should immediately sacrifice the assets that he currently owns because getting back the assets that have been sold is also not easy. So this must really be considered wisely before he sells it, and besides what is it that is giving him trouble? Meanwhile, market conditions and the crypto space are much better now.
734  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Will World Economic Depression Affect Bitcoin? on: July 02, 2023, 07:43:43 AM
You are very thorough looking at this. Yes. at least this moment serves as a test of maturity to determine whether Bitcoin is truly considered a safe-haven asset and a safe place to keep their money or just a speculative investment.
This can also depend on the opinion of each person because the function is also clear so that everyone can have different assumptions when owning Bitcoin. Although in general Bitcoin is better for investment direction because it has been specifically proven that an increase in price over a certain period of time always exists and occurs in Bitcoin. So the opinion depends on the individual person.

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I think it comes back to the market participants. If they really think of Bitcoin as a safe haven, it could hold up well during a crisis. Conversely, if what you see is a high-risk investment and its value can drop at any time, isn't it obvious that your intentions will be clearly expressed, one of which is from the economic downturn. But, look at it with open eyes. As the economy improves, positive news emerges and makes headlines for weeks. What's next? As more industries enter this space, some investors and financial institutions will view Bitcoin as a safe-haven asset and they feel it is a safe place to store their money.
If you remember being safe, obviously Bitcoin can still be said to be safe. Whether it's to be invested and stored for a long time or to be traded in the market, both of which are still good for and safe for many people to do with Bitcoin. And that is apart from conditions that can affect the market because when there are bad conditions that can affect the market, of course the mentality of traders and holders will also be affected. It could even be changed in terms of his trust in Bitcoin.
735  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: [DISKUSI] Harga dan Potensi Altcoin on: July 01, 2023, 11:45:36 AM
Pengen nyari yang sekarang harganya murah tapi bisa naik tajam seperti ETH di masa silam atau BTC di masa silam. Apa ya gan? buat invest 5 - 10 tahun kedepan

Jika om ingin mencari altcoin yang murah untuk investasi selama 5 - 10 tahun kedepan, dari pandangan saya pribadi yang lebih cocok itu adalah BNB dan Tron. Karena selain masih sangat terjangkau dan murah menurut saya, altcoin tersebut juga sudah sangat populer serta memiliki peringkat yang baik dan juga jaringan dari kedua altcoin tersebut masih banyak digunakan pada saat ini.

Sehingga saya pikir tidak akan salah jika om memilih kedua altcoin ini untuk investasi jangkan panjang, tetapi jika om tidak mencari yang harganya murah namun bagus, maka pilihannya adalah Bitcoin dan itu tidak ada tawaran lain yang lebih baik karena memang telah terbukti selama bertahun-tahun kalau Bitcoin adalah yang terbaik. Dan sebenarnya altcoin seperti ETH juga sangat baik untuk investasi jangka panjang jika om mau menganggap ETH itu masih murah, karena ETH juga kerap lebih cepat meningkat ketika Bitcoin mulai memulihkan harganya dan bahkan sangat sering meningkat secara bersamaan dengan Bitcoin. Jadi ETH juga bisa menjadi pilihan yang baik untuk om jika yang om cari saat ini adalah altcoin.
736  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin will fall or rise? $30400 the recent price on: July 01, 2023, 10:37:08 AM
After the SEC did not want to approve bitcoin spot ETF, bitcoin fall from $31000 back to $30400 as of today price. Bitcoin has been staying between $29400 and $31250 since many days. The support as been at $30000 while the resistance as been at $31000. The market is difficulty to know which position to take. What are you people predicting that bitcoin price would be? Is bitcoin breaking the resistance and increase above $31000 which could take the price to $35000, or bitcoin price is getting back to $25000 again?

After looking at the level of resistance that has occurred in the last month in Bitcoin and now that the price is starting to go sideways with no move up or down, I'm still thinking about the next bull run which would be through $31K and up to $35K. However I don't think that price measure is imminent anytime soon, as the difficulty of breaking through $31K is still very visible on Bitcoin so it will definitely take more time to see $35K within this year. And I don't think about a drop back to $25K any time soon although the drop in price is also unstoppable at this point except with a little more support in the market.
737  Economy / Economics / Re: Quit borrowing on: July 01, 2023, 10:26:53 AM
Your advice is good in terms of loans and their potential impact on someone's financial well-being but I think it's good to clarify by mentioning reliable cryptocurrencies so that the OP understands and doesn't make the wrong choice in investing and in terms of withdrawals too.

If you have to make clarifications by directly mentioning cryptocurrencies, I think stablecoins are better to borrow. Because apart from the price being always stable in the market, stablecoins are also easier for everyone to pay for so that the return will not be too complicated for the borrower. In addition, each borrower can also directly use stablecoins for the investment he wants, like the Bitcoin example, because with the profits he gets through Bitcoin investments, he can also collect them to repay loans he has taken on other people.

But I personally always don't want to make a loan if it's for investment, because I'm still worried that I can't repay it on time, even though the investment objective is for Bitcoin. So my advice is if you can, don't take a loan to make an investment, but try to collect the capital first and then use it to invest so that we ourselves won't feel too deep a burden when we have made our own investments in assets like Bitcoin. (for example).
738  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Investing doesn't guarantee you to be rich on: July 01, 2023, 09:24:55 AM
I don't care about this Scheme. And it is clear that investing in bitcoin will make you rich. You have to look at the history of bitcoin from year to year and you will calculate the big profits that come your way. Everyone is saying the same thing here, but believe it or not investing in bitcoin will make you rich with huge returns for years to come.
Investing would indeed make everyone rich if the asset they were investing in was Bitcoin, but it didn't happen immediately. Because in order to get wealth itself, all investors who have earned wealth through Bitcoin investment must be able to be patient every year by continuing to mentally mature so that they are not affected by bad news that is always there every year. So it can be concluded that those who have gained wealth through Bitcoin investment are those who are patient and have never been mentally affected by bad news so that they are able to get the wealth they want.

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It's no wonder why there are so few millionaires because they postpone the wealth that comes as a result of this be it worry or a minimal level of knowledge. I believe people don't always have to say that investing doesn't guarantee you will be rich. We have to make changes in ourselves and how sorry you are for selling bitcoin at low prices.
Actually it's not delaying, but some people are still not brave enough to invest in Bitcoin so they prefer to be silent because they remember that their knowledge is still minimal so that it always causes concern when they want to start. If they know that they can get rich instantly by investing in Bitcoin, of course everyone will not delay doing it, because in general everyone really needs wealth and to be rich in their own lives. So this is not forever about delaying, but partly about the knowledge that is still very minimal from some people who want to become investors.
739  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin Price, Where Next on: June 30, 2023, 02:37:50 PM
Where next? of course BItcoin will go to $ 50k if the price of $ 30k can hold,
therefore we have to monitor it especially especially on weekends the volatility is higher,
if indeed this is not a bull trap then good news for the crypto currency market will arrive.

Good news will always come and come, but especially today after an increase from $30K to $31K more, the price of Bitcoin also had a free fall from $31K to below $30K even though currently it is still around $30K. It's been a month full of unexpected surprises so stay reasonably optimistic as $50K is a long way to go for Bitcoin and I don't think that will happen anytime soon.

good news friends, now bitcoin has managed to penetrate $ 30k and to be more precise now the price of bitcoin is around $ 31k.
next $50k ? very likely, but not in the near future as there may be several corrections before reaching that point.
A correction also occurred today even though it was only briefly, but for $50K I think it will still be a bit difficult for Bitcoin to achieve in the near future because Bitcoin still requires greater encouragement from various parties. Especially through the media which often provides the best news so that it can stimulate a little bit of Bitcoin buyers in large quantities at the end of this month.
740  Economy / Economics / Re: Am I a bad person if I manage to avoid taxes? (Hypothetical question) on: June 30, 2023, 02:08:52 PM
Actually yes, imagine if many of your country men do the same do you think that there will be a budget to use by government to any project that can develop your country? Just think about that, you can get criminal charges for not paying your taxes so better follow the law and be a good citizen since you and your family can benefit with that.
It is unimaginable because a person will truly live in an insecure way if he continuously violates the state rules that have been set for all citizens of their respective countries. I prefer to be a good citizen by obeying the existing rules and not trying to break the written state rules, because this can make me comfortable in all ways, be it when working to make money, or when I'm resting with my family inside the house.

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Forget about corruption issues but rather focus on good deeds since this can give big improvements on your country if there's huge funds available to use.
Even if it can't be forgotten, I don't think it's good to remember it continuously because civilians are not heroes who can easily eradicate the problem of corruption that occurs in their country. Because it is done by people who are in the government based on their own intentions and if someone can't stand that kind of attitude of the government. I think someone needs to form a forum or community to hold a demonstration on eradicating corruption and report it to the authorities if corruption has actually been proven.
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