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721  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What happend if total capital market of cryptocurrency reach $ 1T on: January 13, 2018, 05:32:03 PM
Oh god, you have to keep explaining the same fucking thing here over and over again.

Market capitalization is a useless metric for measuring the value of a commodity or currency. Market cap is also incorrectly used to tell what a company is really worth. The market cap formula is simply this: The amount of dollars per share of a company x the total number of shares of that company. Market capitalization is about the price of a company. It only tells other companies what they are likely to need to pay to gobble up another company. The economic pigmies that set up these bitcoin price sites years ago started using market cap like they are describing the value of a company because they’re dumbasses. All the “follow the leader” dumbasses copied what they were doing on other sites so it spread. Bitcoin has a fixed number of “shares” so all market cap is telling you is the current price of bitcoin. The number of “shares” will increase slightly until all 21m are mined and then it will be fixed forever. It would be more useful to discuss the effect of monarch butterflies landing on superheated bitcoin mining equipment as it relates to increasing the user base of bitcoin.

might be because I'm newbie, but I don't quite understand your point. what's wrong with the use of market cap? how would you calculate the total worth of the market? coin price alone means nothing cause there can be 1 coin or 1 bil coins. coin supply alone doesn't say anything either without knowing it's price. but if you multiply the coin supply with the current coin price you get how much money the market is worth in current prices.

Ok, I’ll give you that. How would you know if don’t understand what a market cap is.

Market cap is used to set investor expectations and shape investment strategy. There is no official barrier for different categories of stocks based on size, but large caps are often companies with market caps over $10 billion, mid cap is $2 billion to $10 billion and small cap refers to companies under $2 billion. Different types of investment strategies focus on the various market cap groups, and different valuation methods are applied depending on company size. Very large market caps are usually associated with mature, low-growth companies that pay dividends. Small caps are often growth companies with higher-risk profiles and generally do not pay dividends.

For bitcoin market cap tells you nothing about maturity, nothing about potential growth, nothing about user base, nothing about true value, nothing about whether it’s a good investment or not, nothing about size. It only tells you what bitcoin is priced at based on the current number of coins in circulation. So essentially it’s the same thing as looking up the price except to find out the current price using market cap you need to divide out the cap and total coins to find out the price. Why don’t you just look at the price first without doing all that work?
722  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why aren't there more women in Bitcoin? on: January 13, 2018, 05:21:55 PM
I actually know some women who like to take risks in business. But not all of them are technical or they think they are not smart enough to learn about technology and leave it to men.

See, I told all of you that men are fools.
723  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why aren't there more women in Bitcoin? on: January 13, 2018, 05:13:32 PM
Because women are smarter than men.

Women can get men to buy them a $100 dinner, then $200 drinks and fees at a nightclub then refuse to give up the pussy. The current legal system won’t let you rape them after that so you go home and jack off. Eventually they give you the pussy and marry you. Then you buy them a house, a new car, expensive jewelry and (again because of the current legal system) they leave you and take everything you own and have given them including your kids.

Men are fools and women are geniuses and that’s why they don’t use bitcoin.
724  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I'm late! on: January 13, 2018, 05:01:00 PM
Quote
I'm late!

Congrats!
Let's hope it's a boy.

ROFL

I was going to post “are you going to have an abortion” but you beat me to it.
725  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: MAD WITH MY PARENTS !!! on: January 13, 2018, 04:58:06 PM
Your mother will want to protect you Wink

Great protection he's got there.
-mom, I made some money and sent it to your account, you can now buy yourself some clothes
-are you saying my clothes are bad? How did you get money you little shit, probably from drugs or scams?! I'm gonna kill you little bastard!



Jesus Christ, if your parents really talk to you that way the first thing you need to do is run away from home. Better to live on the streets than with people that threaten to kill you. The second thing you should do is get a job with good medical insurance because at some point you’re going to need therapy. Forget about crypto for now and focus on getting out of your fucked up situation.

That's what you call toxic parents. They will keep poisoning your life until you cut ties with them once and for all.

I love that picture. This OP is probably looking at it and saying, “mommy is that you”. LOL
726  Economy / Exchanges / Re: KRAKEN down for 24 hours!! Worst exchange ever for me... on: January 13, 2018, 04:55:18 PM
jimmi jimmi jimmi, you are the bigest layer that i see in the internet, in the Internetforum worldwide.
i think you sit with your fat belly and bald head for the Laptop and are angry......

Shame on you, you write shit, and dont help when people ask or are affrayed.

Realy, shame you!


But i must lough when i write this, what you post Yesterday:

......a russian Hacker stole Kraken,

YES Jamie, Yes  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


Sorry, can you repeat that in English please.

Hey, you should be honored. People are creating new accounts to fuck with you now. LOL
727  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What happend if total capital market of cryptocurrency reach $ 1T on: January 13, 2018, 04:51:20 PM
Oh god, you have to keep explaining the same fucking thing here over and over again.

Market capitalization is a useless metric for measuring the value of a commodity or currency. Market cap is also incorrectly used to tell what a company is really worth. The market cap formula is simply this: The amount of dollars per share of a company x the total number of shares of that company. Market capitalization is about the price of a company. It only tells other companies what they are likely to need to pay to gobble up another company. The economic pigmies that set up these bitcoin price sites years ago started using market cap like they are describing the value of a company because they’re dumbasses. All the “follow the leader” dumbasses copied what they were doing on other sites so it spread. Bitcoin has a fixed number of “shares” so all market cap is telling you is the current price of bitcoin. The number of “shares” will increase slightly until all 21m are mined and then it will be fixed forever. It would be more useful to discuss the effect of monarch butterflies landing on superheated bitcoin mining equipment as it relates to increasing the user base of bitcoin.
728  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Was bitcoin created by artificial intelligence? on: January 13, 2018, 04:28:17 PM
That would have to be a pretty stupid AI. The AI would have to know almost nothing about macro economics, nothing about deflation, nothing about governments monetary policies, nothing about the human condition/human motivations/greed/avarice/manipulation, nothing about modern banking, nothing about business, nothing about the ACH/EFT System, and be a poor Coder in C++.  LOL
729  Economy / Exchanges / Re: KRAKEN down for 24 hours!! Worst exchange ever for me... on: January 13, 2018, 03:33:55 PM
It doesn’t matter what Krackheads do anymore. This thread isn’t in main discussion now. It’s buried five layers deep in Bitcoin Forum/Economy/Marketplace/Service Discussion/Exchanges. No one that’s not already in this thread will ever see it. You may as well turn this thread into a NSFW party.
730  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: KFC to accept Bitcoin! on: January 13, 2018, 03:28:36 PM
731  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: MAD WITH MY PARENTS !!! on: January 13, 2018, 03:05:32 PM
Jesus Christ, if your parents really talk to you that way the first thing you need to do is run away from home. Better to live on the streets than with people that threaten to kill you. The second thing you should do is get a job with good medical insurance because at some point you’re going to need therapy. Forget about crypto for now and focus on getting out of your fucked up situation.
732  Economy / Exchanges / Re: KRAKEN down for 24 hours!! Worst exchange ever for me... on: January 13, 2018, 01:01:57 AM
That very second when their site goes online again, take your coins out and store it in a wallet with private keys you and you alone control, know and have access to.

An exchange which makes their customers suffer sleepless nights, stomach ulcers and lose their minds worrying about the uncertainty of their assets is an exchange to avoid like the plague.

Yes, it's not good to keep or store coins long term in an exchange and yes it's sometimes necessary to have coins in an exchange account for trading.. I realize and accept this. But what good is it to have coins in an exchange account which often shuts down their trading platform or goes offline?


Correct! It just doesn’t matter that an exchange comes back on line days later and everyone has access to their money. They should never have gone off line in the first place.

Would you trust a bank that kept you from accessing your money for days? What if Wells Fargo just turned off all their atms for a couple of days? Would you keep banking at Wells Fargo? I mention Wells Fargo because I had an account there when they were recovering from a major hacking. I never lost access to my money, even for a minute, and every customer that had money drained from their account was reimbursed. Why do bitcoiners expect and allow such pathetic service?
733  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Mark Zuckerberg is looking into cryptocurrency ::) ::) ::) on: January 13, 2018, 12:53:12 AM
And here's what other top investors think

Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg says Facebook will be looking into cryptocurrency in the new year.

"There are important counter-trends to this — encryption and cryptocurrency — that take power from centralized systems and put it back into people's hands," Zuckerberg wrote in his 2018 mission statement, issued on Thursday. "But they come with the risk of being harder to control. I'm interested to go deeper and study the positive and negative aspects of these technologies, and how best to use them in our services."

TRANSLATE: he is going to issue another XRP style bullcrap private blockchain coin

this is BEST for his services and BEST for his control while at the same time raking in lots of money

I reckon in 5 years we have mostly private coins with huge supply numbers (XRP, Facebook coin, Amazon coin) because the kiddie idiots are buying them for the returnz while the highly intelligent but also autistic crypto community refuses to recognize what the kiddies want: LOW PRICE and MARKETING BLABLAH.  Angry

What’s wrong with this forum today? There are so many people here that understand what’s going on that I hardly recognize the place. LOL
734  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Blackout - No transactions on Christmas Eve! on: January 13, 2018, 12:40:14 AM
I think that's the main reason why the price of bitcoin went down and the fees got increase.There's no way to stop sending bitcoin , because if we stop the mining process would also stop. Many people are running there mining machine they're using their power  and money to run it all power will be lost. Bitcoins tx can't be stopped for a day as well buz millions of people using it.

Most of the block reward comes simply from newly minted coins. In future this will not be the case, but we are not there yet.
Lack of transactions will not significantly impact the mining industry, it will just readjust the balance.

You understand that’s not really true, right? ALL of the block reward and fees come from newly minted coins. Miners get their payments from fees and block reward. Both fees and block reward are awarded when a miner finds a block. It’s true that eventually the block reward subsidy will end (or become insignificant).

The number and size of transactions determine how much transaction fee money comes from mining. Sometimes stupid people put way too high a fee and others put way too low a fee on a transaction but they are usually balanced in amount. Increasing fees (readjust the balance as you say) harms the mining industry because fewer people are willing to use bitcoin. The more data a transaction carries, the more fees you need to attach. A larger block size will lead to more confirmed transactions, which means the cumulative fee will be high, even though each transaction charge will be low.

Mining fees (and currently the block reward) are necessary to keep the miners willing to secure the network (mining is bitcoins security system). Without miners, the network would be attacked because it would create an opportunity for a successful 51% attack.
735  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Mark Zuckerberg is looking into cryptocurrency ::) ::) ::) on: January 13, 2018, 12:09:29 AM
Probably create his own tbh

Bingo. I think he’d do it just to keep Cameron and Tyler Winkiedouche from making any more money off of him.
736  Economy / Exchanges / Re: KRAKEN down for 24 hours!! Worst exchange ever for me... on: January 13, 2018, 12:05:12 AM
Lack of communication from fledgling companies, delays in withdrawals and transfers, high fees, and the creeping fear of a malicious attack are some of the issues largely retail investors face, and discourage many more from jumping in.

With not even a phone number or e-mail listed on Kraken’s status page, the exchange’s clients vented on Twitter.


A Twitter user with the name of Victor M. said "im seriously considering suing kraken. anyone interested as well?" The Tweet got more than 300 likes. A user with the name North Canton Cab Com tweeted to Kraken saying "due to the length of down time can you at least assure us that our coins and accounts are safe and havent been hacked or stolen please, seems beyond any normal circumstance at this point when people are worried sick!"

Others are resorting to humor, with Twitter user @Subbedeius posting "Kraken is the best platform to avoid panic-selling. It just doesn’t work when sh*t hits the fan."



https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-01-12/crypto-exchange-kraken-goes-dark-and-user-anxiety-surges
737  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Mark Zuckerberg is looking into cryptocurrency ::) ::) ::) on: January 12, 2018, 10:14:25 PM
Wouldn’t that be funny if he actually invested in bitcoin. That would mean he’s essentially giving even more money to the Winkledouche twins.  I guess losing court cases against them wasn’t enough for him. LOL
738  Economy / Exchanges / Re: KRAKEN down for 24 hours!! Worst exchange ever for me... on: January 12, 2018, 04:14:28 PM
People dont realize these exchanges have millions of members, if everyone contacts there support they will have a million messages. 24 hours is not a big deal, they have a lot of work keeping the maintenance high. I wouldn't worry about it.

"24 hours is not a big deal".. are you out of your mind??? For an exchange to go down without notice in the middle of week for even couple of hours IS A VERY BIG DEAL, let alone 24 hours!!!

Correct, I can’t believe anyone thinks 24 hours isn’t a problem.

Think of it this way. If you had rent to pay and you went to your bank to withdraw money Monday morning and they were closed for housekeeping would you be pissed off? Would you pay a late fee for not paying your rent on time?

If bitcoiners want btc to compete with the big boys then bitcoin needs to wipe its ass without help, stop peeing the bed and become a big boy.
739  Other / Off-topic / Re: Is bitcoin dangerous ? on: January 12, 2018, 04:05:23 PM
Yes it is, I had a bitcoin explode on me. Fortunately, I was wearing leather gloves so I didn’t lose my hands. I still don’t see too good out of one eye though.
740  Economy / Exchanges / Re: KRAKEN down for 24 hours!! Worst exchange ever for me... on: January 12, 2018, 03:42:05 PM
I've been hearing that the FBI and SEC are now investing Kraken as a big "inside-job" has happened during the update and all user funds have disappeared. This will be even bigger than the demise of Mt Gox.

Guys.... You should begin to accept that everything you have on Kraken has been lost and cannot be recovered as they even forgot to lock funds and even take blockchain snapshots.

In the unlikely event of Kraken ever coming online again, there will be a lot of panic withdrawals as nobody will ever trust them again. Kraken now face collapse regardless.

Source?
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