All this effort to get outdated versions of Electrum running on outdated versions of Windows... to discover that your outdated version of Electrum won't connect to any servers, thereby rendering it pretty much useless for anything other than possibly extracting a seed and/or private keys from a wallet (maybe)

Seems like an awful lot of wasted time and effort... that might be better spent learning how to use Linux... especially if you are going to persist with using older hardware that isn't capable of running modern Windows OSes ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

If it wasn't originally created and setup "offline"... then it should never be treated as a cold storage wallet... if at any point the wallet was on an online device (PC/mobile etc), then it should be considered as being a "hot wallet".

To be a "true" cold storage wallet, it needs to have been created offline... and must remain offline 100% of the time.

I concur... seems odd that the wallet just disappeared from the App Store... but then, Apple aren't exactly "Crypto Friendly" So, it's possible the app was removed for some technical reason rather than it being an outright scam.

However, "better safe than sorry" would seem to be the best course of action here... move the funds to a new wallet.

Nothing will happen. It doesn't update until the entire firmware has been downloaded and verified. If your internet dies during the download, it will just abort and you'll be able to try again.


Not unless people are updating older firmwares when this was an issue.


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Don't think you can... I vaguely recall that Ledger Live only works with newer firmwares (ie. v1.6.1 etc) and required that you update before using it.

Was it this "Bitcoin Wallet" app? https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.schildbach.wallet&hl=en

Or something else? or are you using iOS device?

Imma have to break out the heavy duty meds to treat the migraine I now have after attempting to read that post... 

That shouldn't make any difference at all...


I am wondering, however, if this is related to this issue that @LoyceV found: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5336919.0

Where Bitcoin Core is attempting to show all output addresses on the recent transactions list... and with your nicehash transaction having 200 odd outputs, it might be causing some sort of buffer overflow or "out of bounds" or similar error which is causing Bitcoin Core to shutdown?

It was noted in that LoyceV's thread, that because the list of addresses is truncated in the older versions of Bitcoin Core, that they work fine... which might also explain why you have noted that the old version is syncing/displaying those transactions without issue.

Excellent... glad that you got that sorted.


I don't think so... I've got a mix of legacy, nested and native segwit addresses in my Bitcoin Core wallet... and I don't have any issues sending/receiving transactions.

Given the issues you have had, it seems like your wallet was, for whatever reason, just not synced correctly. It seems like the wallet.dat had not been updated to reflect the fact that the "3-type" address had been "used" and had received funds. In my experiments, as soon as the "3-type" address was used as a "receive" address, it was listed in both the top section of the dumpwallet output (with the WIF keys) and in the bottom section of the output (with the 0014 redeem scripts).

I'm not sure why your output only had it in the bottom section... I can only assume that the wallet had not been rescanned correctly.



As far as I'm aware you should be able to do this... I have just created an unsigned transaction in an Electrum watching only wallet that contains a funded "nested segwit" imported address (ie. "3-type" address) and I was able to sign it in an Electrum that had the private key for that address...

Unless you mean you were trying to create an unsigned transaction from Electrum and sign it in Bitcoin Core? But even that should work now that Electrum is generating unsigned transactions in PSBT (Partially Signed Bitcoin Transaction) format.

I think you can simply run each instance from a separate folder... ie. make a copy of the entire dicebot directory (or extract the .zip to a 2nd folder) and then run the dicebot from there.

As long as you're connected to different sites, it should work. Do not try to play on the same site with multiple instances of the dicebot at the same time. Also, do not play via dicebot and website at the same time.

Make sure you have your sessionID... extend the session if necessary, and contact the ChipMixer support team via their email: chipmixer@protonmail.com

It make take one or two days for them to reply to you... but at this stage, other than checking basic things like making sure you are using the correct domains (and not phishing ones), they are likely the only people who can assist with your query.

The same thing that has been happening for years... miners have been mining "empty" blocks since "ages ago"™. This is neither new, nor unexpected behaviour...

refer: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1085800.0
and: https://www.google.com/search?q=bitcointalk.org+empty+blocks

I'm not aware of any servers that explicitly state what their data limits are... or whether they have raised/lowered the defaults used in ElectrumX (the most popular Electrum Server).

Among your options (in no particular order) would be:

1. Manually creating sub-wallets of your main wallet that only include say 100 addresses
- that should hopefully reduce the total "history" of any one wallet to be small enough that it doesn't cause any server to throttle your connection or disconnect you.
- Won't work if the bulk of the "history" is associated with one address
- Once you have identified exactly which address/private keys still have a balance/UTXOs associated with them, you could create a wallet with just those private keys so you can shift the coins.


2. Run your own Electrum Server
- Setup and run your own personal Electrum server and remove all the limits, so it doesn't throttle your client.
- Requires that you download Bitcoin Core and then setup a server of some sort (ElectrumX/EPS/electrs etc)


3. Use a different wallet
- You could export all your private keys from Electrum and then import them into another wallet
- Given that you'd exceeding limits on Electrum servers, then any wallet you try to use might also offer sub-optimal performance
- Bitcoin Core might be your best bet, but again, having a wallet that has over 10,000 transactions in it might still be problematic.


4. Try and find an Electrum Server admin who can temporarily modify their server setup for you
- Quite how you actually identify or contact a server admin, I'm not sure... some list contact details on the server text displayed in the console when you connect to a different server... some list donation addresses which you might be able to Google and find associated contacts for etc.

It's likely one of the private keys in the first part of the dumpwallet... which (unfortunately) is likely to be displayed with a "bc1" address... So it won't be immediately obvious which one it actually is.

So, you can try and use the dumpprivkey command to dump that one specific key:

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Or, if that fails, your only real option then is to import ALL of them into Electrum.

Just use all of the "WIF" keys in the top part... and import them into "Electrum" using the 'p2wpkh-p2sh:' prefix. So, from my previous post... while the WIF keys are output in the dumpwallet output with "bc1" addresses:


I can still import those WIF private keys using the "p2wpkh-p2sh:" prefix like this:



And Electrum will generate them as "3-type" addresses:

It looks like my "guess" was right... https://planbetter.org/payouts


Note that "View" isn't a "tab"... the instructions are incorrect. "View" is one of the menus at the top... on a Mac, this won't be in the Electrum Window itself, but on the menu bar thing at the very top of your desktop (where the "Apple" menu is):

source

Once you open that "View" menu, you should see options to show/hide various tabs like "Addresses", "Coins", "Channels", "Contacts" and "Console":

(note: example is from Windows, as I don't have a Mac to take screenshots on )


Then, the "addresses" should appear in the Electrum window with the "History", "Send" & "Receive" tabs:

source

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In any case, it makes no difference if you can see the "addresses" tab or not... any transactions to any Bitcoin addresses from your wallet should be shown on the "History" tab. If the "History" tab is empty... then your wallet has received no payouts.

Why it has received no payouts is likely to be because:

1. The BTC payout address you originally used was from a different wallet (different seed, or BIP39 passphrase etc)
or
2. The BTC payout address you originally used was from a different derivation path.
or
3. You simply haven't received any payouts.

When you originally setup your BTC payout address... what address did you use? and where exactly did you get it from?

Or are you actually just trying to get a BTC address so you can start getting your STX Stacking rewards? If this is the case, simply select any of the addresses shown on the "Addresses" tab (I would suggest the first one at the top of the list, labelled "receiving")

EDIT: BTC payout address is auto-calculated

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EDIT: For the record... I downloaded the stacks wallet... created a 24 word seed... it gave me the address:



Using the "address convertor" found on "Step 2. Bitcoin Payouts" here: https://planbetter.org/stack It shows my BTC address as:



I then followed the instructions to create the wallet in Electrum as specified here: https://planbetter.org/payouts

"Standard Wallet" -> "I already have seed" -> 24 word backup from Stacks + "BIP39 seed" option -> Legacy P2PKH + derivation path: m/44'/5757'/0'

And it is indeed creating the correct address in Electrum:

It honestly sounds like you've either imported an address to your wallet (without the associated private key) and then sent funds to that address... or, at some point, you imported a "standalone" private key generated from an external source which was obviously not backed up by the seed/xpriv and backup(s) of the wallet.dat with that private key included were not made (or were subsequently misplaced/lost).

Bitcoin Core doesn't delete keys from your wallet file... and given you have the xpriv, hdseed and a full walletdump with all the private keys etc and you're still unable to find the address/private key controlling the coins, then this would suggest that the funds were indeed sent to a "watching-only" or "standalone" address


I'm not sure what you were expecting trying different Bitcoin Core versions, different OSes and/or compiling your own version of Bitcoin Core... if the key isn't in your wallet.dat, then you're not going to 'find the coins' no matter what you do.

After fully syncing Bitcoin Core, and rescanning the wallet.dat, a simple dumpwallet would show all the keys that were in the wallet.dat (and/or generated in the keypool etc), if the address and private key were not visible in that output, then you can be fairly sure that your wallet.dat does not hold the private necessary.


One last question, was your wallet always encrypted from when it was first created or did you add a passphrase at a later date?

Honestly, I would generally recommend either Electrum (but do bear in mind that it is somewhat feature limited compared with the desktop version of Electrum, in my opinion it is more of a 'companion' app to the desktop version, than a fully-fledged version of the wallet)... or I would recommend Mycelium.

Mycelium, for all it's flaws (in-app advertising, syncing issues etc), is one of the more mature wallets... so it's generally fairly "solid"... but it is becoming harder and harder to recommend.

You might also want to look at Bitcoin Wallet for Android: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.schildbach.wallet


But I guess we should ask, what are your specific requirements for a wallet? Once we understand those, it'll be easier to make a recommendation.

So why did I get blocked from the Telegram group? That doesn't seem like it is encouraging open and fair debate.

You'll notice I didn't lock this thread, even though I could have... and I will certainly not report your post or ask for it to be deleted... precisely because I actually do believe in open and honest debate... unlike others

EDIT: in fact, I'll even archive your post, so that it can still be referenced if it does get removed.

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Customer using "genesis": *gets rekt*
CryptoSparks: "You should use extra stops"
Customer uses extra stops: *gets rekt*
CryptoSparks: You should have been using freely available genesis with 0% extra stops
Customer below min bankroll:

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I'm not sure what I am supposed to have done... supposedly the bot was going to trade and I could have "passive" income... I lost 60% of my initial investment on Arakne, that I will remind you had absolutely ZERO customisation facility... so what exactly was I supposed to do there?

Then, I used the platform, set the bot going... got rekt, was told to use extra stops, I did that... got rekt... tried the "new" bot... got rekt, tried extra stops, got rekt.

And what do I get in return... a massive essay on how I don't know enough about trading to use an automated trading bot. So what you're saying is that you need to be a trading expert to use your bot? That is certainly NOT how it was "sold".

Every time something happens, it's manipulators or "shake outs" or other bots "targeting" your bots... or it's the users fault for not knowing how to use a platform that has pretty much zero in the way of instructions or explanations of anything.

When it goes up it is "genius algorithm!"...

I documented my experience, and gave my opinion at the end. I certainly didn't start out wanting to lose money... but I honestly was expecting to. I tried to follow what little instruction I was given on how to operate it... and I lost.

That was my experience. All the backtest data and pretty graphs and talk of weak hands, strong hands, money management, exits, stops, manipulations, shakeouts, breakouts, Fibonacci etc... isn't going to change the fact that I lost 90% of my initial investment... while you lost preciously 0%. If I hadn't of had the "free" fee bankroll (which was to make up for my 60% loss with Arakne), and I had had to actually put my own BTC into that, you would have actually made nearly 0.02 BTC from the trading fees... while I lost 0.09 BTC + fees.


The simple fact is that the user carries all the risk... you carry none. You actually make money whether the customer wins or loses.

If you have to pay 13.57 mBTC, you don't send the private keys to the person you are paying... you send them 13.57 mBTC and your wallet will handle the "change". Note that this transaction would likely be quite large as you would have 14 inputs and 2 outputs and incur a relatively large fee.

Also, depending on the mixer service being used, you might not receive 14 x 1 mBTC UTXOs... it depends what service you use, and how you choose to withdraw your funds from that service. They don't all operate using "chips" like ChipMixer does.

Ok, that is looking very positive then!

So, all you should need to do is add 2 more accounts and you should see your coins and balance

NOTE: You might need to wait a minute or two before Mycelium will let you add the 3rd account after you have added the 2nd account, because it might need time to "sync" the 2nd account and realise that it has be "used", before it'll let you add the 3rd account.

So, add the 2nd account... wait until you can see transactions in the "transactions" tab for the 2nd account, then try adding the 3rd account.

Can you please provide a link to this tutorial so we can get some idea of what it is that you're actually attempting to do and/or follow...

Was it this one? https://planbetter.org/payouts

If it was, and you got as far as seeing the "history" tab, but it is empty... then it is likely that either:

1. Your 12 word seed is wrong
or
2. You didn't use the BIP39 option
or
3. You didn't enter the BIP39 derivation path correctly
or
4. You haven't received any stacking payouts.



I would suggest you try the "Stacks" discord server... go here and click the "Join" button: https://community.stacks.org/

Electrum is a Bitcoin wallet, it has nothing to do with Stacks or STX or "stacking".