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Yifu just keep doing what you're doing, all these complaints are just wasting their own time. You're fulfilling your legal duties and fulfilling orders to the best of your ability unless proven otherwise. Apart from the B3 refunds which was a 'it happens' script error. I personally lost 5 figures on B3, but hey what can you do.
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Interesting concept. Is there an auction end time besides the fact that in 60 days it will be zero?
He can rightfully withdraw the offer to sell unit at any time. |
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NO. This is not how electronics work. Do not use anything but 12V.
What do you know about electronics? What's the P/N of the DC/DC Regulator? You might very well be able to throw 24VDC at it. Its the equivalent of saying you can ram 10V through a processor - as long as the power delivery is the same. No, just no. |
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He is offering you chips ASAP or a refund, what more do you want :/ If they're delayed further I'm sure he will refund. If you don't trust his word, then you shouldn't have ordered off him in the first place.
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Is there a way to setup DHCP on the blade?
and does this blade support IPv6?
My DNS is an IPv6 address and it has a % in the address in the command prompt when I do ipconfig /all
Also my blade is 10.0.1.2 and not a 192 address
Having problems getting mine to hash ugh
It doesn't support DCHP, static IP only. Don't know about IPv6, probably not. More info about the lack of hashing? |
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I'll take it for -$30,000. Via escrow.
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Another fucking thread, WHY
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Go to a bank, get a 2 month loan, buy and build 1000 chips/boards and the community will support you with 10% deposit orders. This is how business needs to be done, like a business.
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i was just reading all the avalon cluster**** (pretty much every other thread here besides this one), i think you should all consider yourselves very lucky by choosing buzzdave/bitfury instead of avalon, as i understand pretty much nobody got their hardware, buyers are left with no hardware no refund, and board manufacturers are left with all the useless boards they purchased with no chips and angry buyers while the difficulty continues to gap higher by the day making the preorders irrelevant. What a mess.
I hope the bitfury oct delivery will also go as smoothly as august.
That is incorrect, Avalon users either have hardware or refunds - it was a script error. Chip buyers have either received chips or queued for refunds. Bullshit. Avalon trade-ins customers are in limbo since April. Some paid at the beginning of July. Nobody got a single email back from Avalon team. Zip, nada. And you want to compare him with Dave? You need to have your head examined. The only reason Yifu started refunds (with mining profits I might add) is because of the number of people he pissed off. He quickly realized he is not welcomed here. If he is thinking gen2, he better do it in 2015 when most people forget what he has done. No more rock star status for him. So get over this "Avalon worship" BS. Say what needs to be said. They fucked a lot of customers; with a barb wire. I'm not talking about trade ins, I never was. Nor did I mention ANYTHING about a comparison with 'Dave', I don't even care who that is. You clearly have a vendetta against Avalon so I won't bother arguing with a brick wall. I was merely clearing up some of the FUD. B3 has been refunded, there is no other truth regardless of how much you rage. |
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i was just reading all the avalon cluster**** (pretty much every other thread here besides this one), i think you should all consider yourselves very lucky by choosing buzzdave/bitfury instead of avalon, as i understand pretty much nobody got their hardware, buyers are left with no hardware no refund, and board manufacturers are left with all the useless boards they purchased with no chips and angry buyers while the difficulty continues to gap higher by the day making the preorders irrelevant. What a mess.
I hope the bitfury oct delivery will also go as smoothly as august.
That is incorrect, Avalon users either have hardware or refunds - it was a script error. Chip buyers have either received chips or queued for refunds. |
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Bitfury purposely underclocked the chip to achieve competitive power specs. That essentially means
they are willing to deliver more total hardware for the equivalent hash rate. To me, that means KnC
will have a lower (ultimate) price point than Bitfury when the pricing war is over.
I don't think that logic follows at all. Bitfury did the math and figured out that for their OWN uses, it was cheaper in the long run to use more chips. More chips means more complexity and more up-front costs, but if it saves you power in the long run then it is worth it. Since they are building their own huge mine, they want the best performance per watt as well as the highest reliability. Saying that KNC will have a lower "ultimate" price point may be true for up front costs... but not lifetime costs. Evaluating lifetime costs is what is going to tell you what your full return on investment will be. To put this in perspective, anyone that that has a huge mining operation is going to get at or below $0.02/kWH The Cost Savings on 100TH of Bitfury equipment if they are 0.8W/GH - 80kWh - $1.6/Hr -$38.4/Day - $1152/Month vs KnC 100TH at 1.6W/GH - 160kWh - $3.2/Hr - $76.8/Day - $2304/Month Oh and the difficulty would have to be 85,000,000,000 - That's 85 Billion before you break even on Electricity Cost for KnC - Thats 680/PH. You must be thinking pretty far ahead man! Industrial power at $0.02, lol. Why do you think ASICMiner had such a hard time scaling? |
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Probably because the 55 nM chips from BitFury are circuitry works of art while the KnC chips are thought to be direct ports of the logic circuits derived from their own less efficient FPGAs. KnC also chose to work on a more difficult process, so they may experience piss poor initial yields that require huge amounts of voltage to hash. I would be wary of "predicted" efficiency numbers, as BFL's predictions were off by almost an order of magnitude. Even BitFury was unable to meet their target, but got pretty close. Thats what it looked like, KNC with their 'market leading skills' got it super wrong. |
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Small thread as its not viable to sift through 100s of pages in each camp. Equally, each thread is filled with die hard supports who can't see the logic from the fud.
The question is, how is bitfury able to achieve 0.8W/GH (confirmed, in hand, 3rd party tested, from WALL) with 65nm, yet KNC is only predicting 1.6W/GH (theoretical, not tested a chip yet, not tested hash rate etc)? Who fucked up? Is KNC lying about their process node?
I won't even bother going into detail. I'll just leave this here. Bitfury Chips were supposed to hash at 5GH, they hash at 2.7GH KnC Chips are supposed to Hash at 100+ GH if you want 0.8W at the wall, underclock them 1.8x to 55GH and see what the power draw is  There we go, the KNCKrew coming out with their retarded logic. You've said NOTHING in that post, literally. |
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Small thread as its not viable to sift through 100s of pages in each camp. Equally, each thread is filled with die hard supports who can't see the logic from the fud.
The question is, how is bitfury able to achieve 0.8W/GH (confirmed, in hand, 3rd party tested, from WALL) with 655nm, yet KNC is only predicting 1.6W/GH (theoretical, not tested a chip yet, not tested hash rate etc)? Who fucked up? Is KNC lying about their process node?
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So here's the real tally:
Minirig: $30,000, uses less power, takes up less space
Blades: $54,000, uses 3x more power, takes up lots more space
ROFL, vapourware does tend not to take up much space, handy that. |
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Josh is seeing ghosts because he knows he is going to jail at some point. Better start beefing up bro.
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First, sorry for the delay of delivery. Our design decision changed a lot during the last few months, resulting a unified new blade design which had also gone into many iterations.
The purchasers will all be fulfilled with new blades. And furthermore it won't be merely upgrades. They are extra.
Do I understand correctly that purchasers of B1-B3 will be given extra unit? Nothing confirmed until its actually announced, but no. First, sorry for the delay of delivery. Our design decision changed a lot during the last few months, resulting a unified new blade design which had also gone into many iterations.
The purchasers will all be fulfilled with new blades. And furthermore it won't be merely upgrades. They are extra.
Do I understand correctly that purchasers of B1-B3 will be given extra unit? Yes, we get the free USB stick by X-mas. No, thats just a lie |
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+1 to dogie. This is a sad day for the people who supported ASICMINER initially. I was part of the B3 auction who paid 50BTC / blade. They never ROI'ed. Even with the new price of 3.5Btc per blade for returning customers, these blades don't seem to ROI. http://mining.thegenesisblock.com/a/d0775c4b7b@Friedcat : When you replied to my PM earlier this week, i was expecting something better. You have let us down this time.
So much for taking our chances and vetting on ASICMINERnoone promised ROI within 3 months. that's just your personal assumption. in fact with so many participants how can anyone GUARANTEE roi without opening themselves up to horrible ramifications? you got what you ordered, on time. and you are complaining why? compared to other ASIC purchasers you should be grateful. what AM has to do is deliver when promised what they promise and that's what they did Yes. Am not complaining. Am quoting the fact. As you said, we received what we were promised. But so did others who brought USB's at 2.00 BTC and 1 BTC. Then why offer them coupons and not compensate us (blade buyers) who invested many times more than them. I agree with you and i have been a strong supporter of friedcat all through. Am a shareholder as well and continue to invest in ASICMINER. But i just wanted to point out the flaw in the pricing strategy being employed offlate. The debate isn't about ROI, its that as part of the sales package we were promised upgrades which as of yet have yet to appear. |
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First, sorry for the delay of delivery. Our design decision changed a lot during the last few months, resulting a unified new blade design which had also gone into many iterations.
The purchasers will all be fulfilled with new blades. And furthermore it won't be merely upgrades. They are extra.
I'm assuming by this you mean its not a trade in - it never was. The problem with just getting new blades now is they're worth (to us, and costs you) almost nothing. The promise assumed they would be worth 15-25 on delivery, NOT 2-4btc. That's 11-23 difference, small money for you, big money for us. Of course we will bear the deprecation based on hashrate increase caused by our delay in mind. The later it is, the more hashrate it will be. Then we kindly await future updates. As in the OP, this thread is more about a reminder with the community as witnesses than pitchforks and flaming torches. |
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