These statistics will add more fuel to the fire. i expect a few new threads are coming soon, using these number to continue a war that has not yet finished.
suchmoon you are in a trouble 

what is your rated voltage? it's very important specially in your case, as the numbers are very tight.

ok, just so you don't have to keep asking for every other miner you get, here is how to do the math.

you first need to know the miner consumption in wats, for S9 , it's about 1350w.

secondly you need to know how much can your circuit breaker take which is done by  calculating amp * volts.

i will assume that the voltage at your house is rated at 240v  so the equation goes like this

                                                    amp * volts.
                                                    13   *240
                                                      = 3120 wats

now at stage you are going full load, which is not the best thing to do, also keeping a lot of margin is bad , you want to stay in a very close range so that you don't overload the breaker and you don't allow much "unused" current because then your the circuit might never break in case something goes wrong.

just like HagssFIN mentioned, except that i do not agree with the number " it might be the number in the books" but to me 0.9 has been a good enough rule for years.

so you take the result from the above equation, and do multiply it by the 0.9 factor

                                                     3120 * 0.9
                                                     = 2808 wats

you can safely run 2 S9s on that breaker, provided your volt is 240.

but to be even safe, let's make it 230v . so we get thsi

                                                     13*230*0.9
                                                    = 2691w

2 s9 will need 1350*2 = 2700w so it is still some how "safe" to run 2 s9s on a 13amp circuit breaker with 230v, but it's not advisable, there is not much room for error , should the voltage drop, things will get hot and ugly.

so the best practice would be this, calculate how many miners in total you want to have on that breaker, and get another breaker.  you mentioned you getting two L3s, so you can actually safely run 1 s9 and 1 L3 on the this 13 amp cb. and get another one for the other l3 and s9.

 do you hear yourself?

common sense, it is safer to tag an account even for 1% possibility of it being hacked. this is called " better safe than sorry" .

assuming the guy who reached out to me on telegram was a random out of the blue " which indeed was not the case", but just for the sake of this argument ,what do you think the right decision would be?

1-tag the user, save poor souls , wait for him to prove the opposite ?
2-collect more evidence, risk people's money waste everybody's time?

The damage of no 1 is very minimal , DT remove their tags and story is over.

sadly you can't undo number 2.

 providing evidence " the way you want them" is nothing under my obligation, let alone the time needed for screenshots and the stuff you asking for, by the time i get all those stuff, the hacker would have already finished what he came for.

also ,why are you assuming that i am angry? never, it's the way i reply to non-sense B.S. sorry nothing personal tho.

thanks for your input, highly appreciated.


I have not asked anybody to tag the account.

 i also have no desire in going on with this discussion with you. i don't want to lock this thread for obvious reasons. but sure thing i won't be replying to any of your non-sense here.

Milkz if you have any problem with the tag, start your own thread.

good luck.

edited : thread unlocked upon request , a user said he has some more information to post related to the subject.

@mdayonliner : if you have anything to oppose the tag, please start your own thread.

OK smarty-pants , so i do not tag the user, i do not warn people about it, take all the time in the world to do the "Sherlock Holmes" thing. let 5-10 people get scammed trading with a green trusted account that is possibly hacked ? when the party is over i come back here with my evidence ? is that what you are suggesting? brilliant.

one thing i know for sure is that only someone with access to Milkz account could have reached out to me on telegram, so be it him or the hacker makes no difference, the account is now hacked, and that's all about it, if you have any doubts still, ignore all the negative feedback, go trade with him.

if the original user still has access to this account he can simply reply here and prove me wrong, and tags will be removed.

well you can actually get a head start, by starting to mine  the next block before announcing the hash for the for the current block"if you found it of curse". in theory this is possible, in real life it's not, because if you hold on for a split second , someone else might broadcast the solution before you do. so it makes no sense, it makes every sense to mine an empty block rather than trying to get a head start when everybody else is only a few steps behind.


the average laptop nowadays will need "46,745,721 YEARS" to solve a block " luck not included"

you can use > http://solochance.com/ to find out the time you need to solve a block based on how many trials 'hashes' you make per second.

are you on 110-120 volt  or 220-220 volt? for APw3++ on the former the output would be about 1200w so it's a NO , on the second the output would be 1600w so it's a yes.

so if you plugging it into a 110-120 v, don't even try it. unless you going to underlclcok your miner.

why would they eventually come back? it's unlikely, unless there is a problem with both of them and then it get's fixed which is very unlikely.
the above comment makes sense, but it's also not as bad as it may sound, the problem could be this

- your VPN server itself is blocking slush and kano pool servers for some reason.

you got two things to try to for now:

1- change the VPN server location , until you get those pools back, try to chose a country that is crypto friendly.
2- change the DNS on your router / miner, use a public dns like google's 8.8.8.8

* step 2 is not recommended if you are using online wallets

also you probably have to reboot the miner for a dead pool to become alive again, there is no guarantee that cgminer is going to ping the pool aside from the start-up period.

but you don't have to do this at every change you make, you can simply try pining those pools from a pc that runs on the same network and using the same vpn by:

1- open CMD

2-type


if you get something like this



then your miner will find the pool "alive"

however if you get something like this



then your miner will show pool "dead".

post back your findings, there are a few more things to try out. but these are the most 2 common solutions i can think of now.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=408677

Milkz account was hacked, he reached out via telegram and told me so.

he said there was only 1 new new post by the hacker, long story short, do not trade with this account until things are worked on.

Mikey,

Thanks for the input TMAN,

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feedback has been removed due to absence of information needed from mods, don't forget to lock this topic.

i doubt it will be functioning long enough to get hot, it will be burned out real fast.

i do not suggest this over over-clocking at any situation, even if your psu was able to supply 2500w which n theory good enough to support freq of 850, it pretty a lot of load on the miner that will take it to snap city in a very short period of time.

sadly, this is now very likely a failing hashboard, and there is nothing you can do about it unless if you it's still under warranty, then open a support ticked on bitmain's website.

this is the unicorn of crypto. a thing that people have only in their mind, i have yet to see a single solid proof about  this statement that many people keep on repeating.

don't get me wrong, bitmain are capable of doing worse stuff than this, but this theory of using the miners and then re-selling them is as stupid as mining bitcoin with a pentium 1 processor.

anyone who had experienced brand new miners and used miners can make certain that putting a used device back to brand new status is practically impossible. 

if you mine with the miner for 24 hours straight, it will be nightmare to try and bring it back to brand new shape, not to mention that smell of fresh launch that all electronics have, i can almost differentiate a brand new ASIC from a used ASIC with my eyes closed.

I do not feel comftable revealing how much profit do i make, although i would if it had any benefits to the members, but i know it is useless simply because

1- the power cost that i have is nothing like yours.
2- the maintenance fees.
3- the strategy i follow to use the mining generated profit which some of it goes back to more hashing power

i can make a longer list of how irrelevant these information are, people have different electricity rates, different everything adding to this the nature of the crypto market , profits will vary drastically from month to another. you simply need to make your calculations based on your own factor, as of how much I or anybody else make from mining is really of no use to you at all.

use these mining calculators, they are fairly accurate.

www.whattomine.com
www.coinwarz.com

set the required parameters,get your results with a click.

if you have any specific question i'll be happy to answer it.

Thanks for the review, but it would make sense coming for a trusted user who is not the OP.

not accusing for anything, but fake reviews are very common in the mining world.

therefore i advice everyone to make their own calculations and not to count on any other's.

thanks again.

make your own "gang" and enjoy the forum , it's pretty easy as you described it.

while this may be a good thing to fight scammers, the sad part for the story is that many if not most  outside users do not know what the trust system here mean, i have no solid based statistics but this is human physiology, people seem to be more interested in reading the comments on the post, which is scammer's strongest weapon, self-moderated / locked topic, bunch of fake reviews, that's all what it take to scam poor souls.

done with lauda now start with suchmoon, who is next? this is becoming boring already.

OP it would have made more sense if you used your real account and complained about a particular tag rather than farting in the wind.

would you please stop using caps lock ?

why can't you load the original firmware back? what error do you get?

edit : lol just found out that i am not the only one disturbed by the caps lock.

why do all your vouches come from untrusted "red trust"and 1 newbie? 

this is very wrong to say the least, logistics is one example of where blockchain can be used without the means of any tokens. you are still confusing blockchain as a matter of a different platform where data is being processed and the blockchain that is used for transacting value.