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7261  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why do we need to gamble? on: December 28, 2017, 04:11:26 PM
Actually we don't need to gamble but gambling use to attract us because no matte how risky it is we still to put bet because of the easy money thingy it offers for winning.
In my opinion the gamblers want a short cut way to collect more and more money in just minutes, because if you earn money in real and regular it will take a long time to save some money, but in gambling you will lose your savings or win more money without spending any time. That’s why people gamble; otherwise I don’t think that there is any need for gambling and not all the people gamble. On the whole gambling is not good from any aspect.

It is true many of us out there want the short cut way to make some money but there are others who claim to be gambling for entertainment, but for me i gamble to make profits little by little for the long term in a form of investment rather than being greedy to go all out on one bet or game.
Yes people consider gambling as the shortest way of earning money even some people may have got money from it but I do not think that all people may be succeeded because gamblingbus really the risky eye if making money.
This is really the fastest way on getting profits since the results were instant and thats only possible through gambling this is why there are lots of people or gamblers do engage with this but without even too much thinking that this is also the fastest way on losing money.This is why when we decide to engage on gambling then we should really be responsible enough.

Yes it is gambling, gambling can be the fastest way to earn a lot of money, but gambling can also be the fastest way to get rid of all your money. Even the loss of all your money can be much faster than getting a lot of money. So gambling is a pretty fragile way to earn money, a way to strengthen it is to get a very thick luck.
That thick luck that we do mention is really hard to obtain and do only come on chances which means as being said it is really pretty fragile and i dont know why do some people do treat it as a source of money.Gambling is just really good for entertainment and making it as a living is just being made by fool people which didnt even realize the reality involve on gambling.
7262  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How many Bitcoins would it take for you to Quit Gambling Forever? on: December 26, 2017, 04:07:18 PM
It's impossible to stop gambling especially if you've won so much Bitcoin. On the other hand, most people only stop when they have got nothing left.
You are right, I don't think that people they didn't have any greed about money, even too bit greed. So even a gambler win a huge amount that he can live with it in the whole life, they want more.

Yeah, it is impossible that people stop or quit gambling if they already achieve their desire from it. Even i think gamblers play gambling more becasue they have earned from it and in gambling usually gamblers have no limitation to quit gambling in the winning stage. The reason Gamblers have no least stage of greediness.
Intentions on making money or greed is really limitless which we cant really put out or set out limitations on when we would able to stop because it cant really be avoided that kind of urge on playing even more because if we do win it do sums up even more which would really break our limitations on playing which would end up on resulting into severe addiction and coming to a point even yourself wont able to get out of it.
7263  Economy / Gambling / Re: "The Welcome Bonus Gimmick" - STOP GETTING BLINDLY ROBBED on: December 26, 2017, 03:20:53 PM
This happens with many different sites, even in the stock trading world they are services that do these "welcome bonuses".

I remember I once registered for a binary options trading site. I deposited I think $100 and was offered $100 extra, and just took the offer.

Basically after a few losing trades I decided to withdraw whichever amount I had remaining I think $70. However due to the "$100 bonus" it states that you cannot withdraw anything until you get a certain rollover amount; which was very difficult.

Ended up I think losing the entire $100. Live and learn I guess.
Same experience, not on binary options but on forex trading which broker did really make some nasty promo of deposit bonus and the common mistake that we do always do is that we dont even think to read up their terms towards it and our expectations would really be broken if we decide to withdraw funds but as usual we would really need to rollover before we can able to cash-out it. Not only on gambling world but also to those kind of businesses.
7264  Economy / Marketplace / Re: IQ Option on: December 26, 2017, 02:41:52 PM
Anyone has used IQ Option to buy coins with credit card? Is it trustworthy?
You can make it but not directly since you would need to fund your account. Im a previous user of this site which this is actually a binary options this is not generally a cryptocurrency platform since it is a broker which do involve on forex and commodities and OTC. You can already find Bitcoin and some other altcoins as far as i remember because i havent check out already on their recent updates. You can fund up your account through your card and other online wallet like payeer and neteller.
7265  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Did you ever lose time from work or school due to gambling? on: December 26, 2017, 01:34:13 PM
yes i do, sometimes when i go to work i'm late because of gambling.
I have never gamble during my education because gambling is not good in my community and the elders will never let you to gamble. Therefore I have never wasted my money, time and schooling. In this day I gamble every little because I think that I should not waste my hard earn money in gambling because I am not fond of becoming rich in short time. I believe in hard work and struggle to become rich.
This should be the spirit towards being successful and getting rich. Most of the people who gamble wants to get it through a shortcut way to become rich, unfortunately majority of gamblers don't succeed and lose their money and time both in doing so. Students who gets involved in gambling I think they can't live a normal students life. For students it will be just like killing your career to become a gambler.

What is hard work? You go to work everyday and in the end of the month you receive salary? Let me tell you gambling is the hardest work from all, because succeeding in gambling is not easy, risks are big you need a lot lot of time and energy and knowledge. Poker is the best gambling game for sure, and many people are millionaires now after starting with 20 dollars.
You think its easy and fast to sit in a chair and play poker for hours, and days, and to win first place and take some big prize? Can you repeat it or it was one time luck? I gave you material to think about, don't talk about something you don't know nothing about.
I do agree on some points which there are really gambling games that can really give chances for us to make money specially on card games and i have seen some people did able to manage to go for long term and making it as a living which is impressive and saying gambling is job then its not on general speaking since this thing is just really being created for the sake of entertainment but there are people who do really treat it as a job since they do able to make money used to live.
7266  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: lucky ! does it influences by a woman beside of us? on: December 26, 2017, 01:13:04 PM
I do not believe that. But I believe, when there are women next to us, then we will be more excited to win the game. Maybe it happens by chance when the woman next to us and we get the victory.
Even I, didnt believe that women can able to boost up our winning chance but i can able to boost up our confidence on playing or even we do enjoy while we are beside them but the fact that they cant really affect anything its just a decoration and make your betting more interesting and as a man we would really make some extraordinary moves to impress them.
7267  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling and Superstition on: December 25, 2017, 07:26:50 PM
Sometimes I do believe in superstition and gambling. As they say nothing will lost in you if you do. Its sometimes true. Oftentimes it somehow give you some kind of luck. I also believe in finding some signs etc. Its just like a thought or somehow a positive vibes to boost your confidence and courage.
You sound like a real gambler, we do not only believe in our skills but we also need some luck in order to win knowing that our chance is lower compared the casinos but if we are extremely lucky we will always end our day with a profit that we are expecting. It's good to be superstitious because it gives us the  confidence on our bet but it's necessary that we should be more realistic when it comes to money management.
Thinking off importantly on how you do manage your money would be more my concern than on following superstitious beliefs that other people are pursuing that it is really working and i would say it is just really a pure coincidence that you do win while using those beliefs but the real story here is that luck is the main reason. Its not really bad to follow but coming to a point on where you are exaggerating it already then it should really be stopped.

I think superstition shouldn't be mixed with gambling at all because t can make you loose big time in gambling and many addicts tends to explain everything about their gambling ordeals and so they seek to do that with superstition and other strange believes which is of no merit to gambling and their end is worse off.
You can't really say that because most these gamblers believe in them and to them it works very well, that's the reason they continue to do whatever rites or rituals that they need to do in order to win . You may not think it works but for others, it clearly works.
It doesnt guarantee that it do works but cant really be denied that there are really people who do strictly follow such rituals because they do believe such thing that it do work on playing gambling and can increase their chances on winning but actually its just really been timing that luck together with their rituals  do work which results on a win and after that they do really believe that it do works no matter what and would be used on their future plays.
7268  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Any tricks available in gambling to won the bet? on: December 25, 2017, 06:15:44 PM

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There arent any soecific tricks for that matter in betting because here in betting you are simply supposed to choose among something just randomly. What u can by the way do here is that having a knowlegde of the trends if there are any of the winnings.

You can see what won  most of the times and can bet upon that. Its definetely  not a fool proof trick or something like that, but can be of little but of help here and there as it is based on past happenings which are more likely to repeat itself.

Gambling in my opinion cannot be won by tricks for the most part. Its basically luck and pretty random. Just do it for fun and enjoy the feeling rather than doing it with the sole thought of earning.
My personal views are that tricks may be consider as illegal in gambling. In fact in most of the gambling games we are totally depending on our luck, but if you are receiving some help from your friend or using some kind of tricks then you are breaking the rules and it cannot be consider as fair gambling game. In fact there are so many experienced gamblers who know so many tricks and for a  new comer i do not think that it may be so easy to win against such an experienced person.
In regular gambling there are lots of tricks which the gamblers use during gambling but in online I don’t have any idea because I have never gamble online. May be there are some trick for winning but I am sure about that. I think that online gambling is fear and no tricks can be used while gambling and it is good because the gamblers do not know tricks to win the game, so it is in their favor that no tricks are there in online gambling.

Gambling tricks vary by the games you particularly play and in respect of on;lone gambling i think there are a lot of tricks with sports betting and it's statistical analysis of previous games where you can be able to apply  martingale among others to be able to maximize your chances of winning.
There are really some strategies which are applicable on some games which would really give some edge or chances for you to make profits depending on the situation. Games do really differ some would need techniques and strategies but not totally reliable to win the game but somehow can give a chance to increase winning which is only possible on some games but not totally reliable on pure luck based games.
7269  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why do we need to gamble? on: December 25, 2017, 04:51:47 PM
Actually we don't need to gamble but gambling use to attract us because no matte how risky it is we still to put bet because of the easy money thingy it offers for winning.
In my opinion the gamblers want a short cut way to collect more and more money in just minutes, because if you earn money in real and regular it will take a long time to save some money, but in gambling you will lose your savings or win more money without spending any time. That’s why people gamble; otherwise I don’t think that there is any need for gambling and not all the people gamble. On the whole gambling is not good from any aspect.

It is true many of us out there want the short cut way to make some money but there are others who claim to be gambling for entertainment, but for me i gamble to make profits little by little for the long term in a form of investment rather than being greedy to go all out on one bet or game.
Yes people consider gambling as the shortest way of earning money even some people may have got money from it but I do not think that all people may be succeeded because gamblingbus really the risky eye if making money.
This is really the fastest way on getting profits since the results were instant and thats only possible through gambling this is why there are lots of people or gamblers do engage with this but without even too much thinking that this is also the fastest way on losing money.This is why when we decide to engage on gambling then we should really be responsible enough.
7270  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: I always lose all my tokens and btc on gambling~ on: December 25, 2017, 04:11:41 PM
Hi guys! Thanks to all response. And yes gambling is definitely not for me.  Shocked
I should just try into investing rather than losing all my earned btc on gambling.
It's too late for me to sour grapes on the btc that I already lost and I will just focus on trying to start again.
I'm just really thankful that I stopped before its too late.  Grin

That's a good decision, quitting a gambling before it's too late. It's not only that gambling is not meant for you but the effects that you may experience when you are already addicted to gambling. There are many ways of earning profits like what you said, investing, or learn how to trade using your tokens and bitcoin. 

You are still gambling indirectly if you invest in something or learn to trade in forex or cryptocurrencies, there is no free lunch and you stand a chance to loose in those ventures also but i think loosing in trading or in an investment could be a little bit mild and controlled unlike gambling which can happen in an instance.
Its actually mild in the sense that you can lose up money but would really be worth it because you can learn up from your mistakes when you do engage into other investments like tradings.This thing  wont really be a regrettable decision than on losing money on gambling randomly. If you dont like to lose up tokens then you should not play gambling in first place because gambling is just a matter of win or lose.
7271  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling and Superstition on: December 25, 2017, 02:42:07 PM
Sometimes I do believe in superstition and gambling. As they say nothing will lost in you if you do. Its sometimes true. Oftentimes it somehow give you some kind of luck. I also believe in finding some signs etc. Its just like a thought or somehow a positive vibes to boost your confidence and courage.
You sound like a real gambler, we do not only believe in our skills but we also need some luck in order to win knowing that our chance is lower compared the casinos but if we are extremely lucky we will always end our day with a profit that we are expecting. It's good to be superstitious because it gives us the  confidence on our bet but it's necessary that we should be more realistic when it comes to money management.
Thinking off importantly on how you do manage your money would be more my concern than on following superstitious beliefs that other people are pursuing that it is really working and i would say it is just really a pure coincidence that you do win while using those beliefs but the real story here is that luck is the main reason. Its not really bad to follow but coming to a point on where you are exaggerating it already then it should really be stopped.
7272  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: how to trade efficiently? on: December 25, 2017, 01:31:02 PM
It is hard to trade efficiently.
Trading should be optimized.

The best trading is always having cash to get in.
Each time falling.
Buy more.
Each time jumpimg, pump hard

I am rich
Trading needs skills and knowledge and without it I do not think that one could be a good and effective trade man, because trading is not easy. It is a tough job and the sign of a good trader is that he must keep an eye on the coming position of a particular thing and especially money.

Money trading is the most daring and risky job. Therefore if you need to start trading you must collect all the necessary information about trading.
Trading is really risky if we do just jump in without any knowledge or skills. If you are really serious on learning up trading then better to ready your self on experiencing lots of mistakes when we are still a newbie but we should really take those mistakes as stepping stones because gradually we would able to learn on those mistakes and develop our selves gradually to be a better trader soon.
7273  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to control greed on gambling? on: December 25, 2017, 12:30:31 PM
Controlling greed on gambling is hard because when you are face with a lot of money people are getting greedy to get all the money that they can, you need to control your emotion and just play calmly so that greedy wont overcome you.
It is really hard to wake up and quit from gambling as you think you are in the moment of winning, it is hard to realize something that "enough is enough" when you are in that moment the sad thing about it is when you are in that zone the chances of you losing is getting bigger. For me one good practice to stop being greedy is to become satisfied with what you want or the other method is to set up a target, by doing so you will be stopping after you achieve your projected win.

Right. As far as my experience can relate, I've been in that 'moment' countless times and no matter how hard you try to tell yourself that you quit, it's simply not so simple to do.
By countless experiences on those times for sure there would really be a day which we can able to control on our desired profits later on.It wont really be an easy thing because our greed will really push us on our limits on playing gambling which would tend to destroy on the plans that we made earlier this is why experience and knowledge will be the thing that would really help you to develop self control.
7274  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: If money would not be a problem, would you still gamble? on: December 25, 2017, 11:12:46 AM
For me gambling is just fun it is always good to get profit gambling but I never see it as a way to make money. Even if I had loads of money I would still gamble albeit the stakes would probably be higher.
it is not fun if you make a huge loss then it means you are just trying to set a mindset that you are not addicted if you are gambling just few dollars once in a month or even week that is only when you gamble for fun
In the first place, why would we allow to lose that much, I think that is not being wise because we are suppose to spend a small amount of money when we are only gambling for entertainment purpose. When money is not a problem anymore we cannot feel the loses since we have a lot to spend but we should also be aware that in everything there is always a limitations.
you cant always control you loss lets say you deposited 100$ and gambled with 10$ and lost all ten
in this situation not really can be done. And again there is nothing like gambling for entertainment it just
another term to show others that you are not addicted
As long you do have the money on your hands and you do play gambling then it is really destined to lose all it up specially when you are a gambler which do have an impulsive behavior because you will surely continue to play until you wont lose it up all.How much more if you dont have a problem when it comes to bank roll?You would still play no matter what.
nothing can be done about this as long as you keep losing you will have the tendency to gamble again and
again the only solution is either the gambler understands the risks and that it is not worthor continue losing
and maybe one day end up in a bad situation

If money won't be a problem then doing gambling will be a boring stuff to do since we only do gambling mostly because of profits and to win big amount of money by risking money, the excitement and thrill is in that, so having money---too many money without any hassle will execute that excitement, and people will start on finding another way where they could spend their money.
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There would be this kind of feeling which is actually true because most people who do play gambling are really seeking out profits which it would really spice up on each roll that they do made and does really give thrill but if you do have the money it would really be just like a normal betting without any excitement since you know you do have the money either win or lose.
7275  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: do you use analysis when play gambling? on: December 24, 2017, 11:19:25 PM
Of course I do ! Since I play only sports gambling, where reading some statistics and watching some results could really helps you to have an idea about the game's result. Personally, I never play a bet wthout the help of the famous website : https://www.flashscore.com, which contributes at least 40% of my decision, which is a very important percentage. And this is valid for all the types of sports gambling.
Analysis is a very useful thing in sports bet. Analysis is the key to winning, without analyzing, you're just like betting on a dice game, it's just a 100% random game, which means you're wasting a great chance of winning easier. Bet on sports bet without analyzing is one of the ignorance that exists in the world.
When it comes to these kind of games then its really needed by some analysis and as being said if you do just put a bet without even analyzing then its just really like you are betting randomly.There are really games that do really need some analysis for you to win and make your chances of winning to be somehow bigger than compared to those fully random games like dice and slots.
7276  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in - Win free Bitcoins every hour! on: December 24, 2017, 05:03:26 PM
Is the withdrawal fee permanent or temporary? and will bounce back to “free” when transaction fees and delays soon to be on normal phase again. I’d rather hold my bitcoin on the site for now and claim for an extra time for extra Satoshi and love they’re interest. Small but enough for a simple man like me.
I think it's a temporary measure. once tx fee goes down and remains that way, we might see free withdrawal again. Wink  we need lighting network to solve the fees issue once and for all.
I dont know if that lightning network would still happen or not which i dont really bother myself to think off. For now fees would really be not a free thing seeing on its cost for you to make a transfer but its not really a bad idea to let those satoshi being accumulated on the site which i do consider a good way on saving up too.  Cheesy just wait for fees to settle down and would come back to usual state.
7277  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: your mentality after a huge loss? on: December 24, 2017, 03:38:35 PM
I will be continue to trade and learn what wrong of my trading that i did, stop a few moment and build new trading strategy, new trading plan and new risk management. Also I will devide the money one portfolio for trade and one porfolio into others pasif income like make investing in mining site or lending coin site to minimize the risk.

Take a rest for aome time is good idea to refresh back your mind from the huge loss.
If you say you will build new strategy i think that is no need. Why? Because we just need to review it and not make the new one.

after a huge loss making your self in a calm and peaceful mind make you feel even more better and you are able to think what would be the best decision that you are able to made of yes it is hard to take some loss but it is better that after this loss you are able to make some good thing to do for.

Calming down is not easy especially if you made a big loss on the exchanges. Then you will have a strong headache and you will think about your previous mistakes. This is inevitable.
It cant really be avoided since there no human being wont react if they would lose up huge sums of money on doing trading and if you did experience this in first time or newbie days then you would eventually lose up your temper and patience which would result on more severe loss because you cant already decide carefully on the things that you should do next specially on recovery.
7278  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling. Is It Wrong? on: December 24, 2017, 03:04:36 PM
Gambling isn't wrong. As long as the activity doesn't disturb economic condition of our family or negatively impact on the surrounding environment. What's wrong is doing gambling where it should not be.
And also gambling with others money, this is why gambling is becoming wrong in the eyes of many people. Also be a responsible gambler, don't forget your priorities so that people will still have respect to us who gambles because that's what I'm noticing in my neighborhood they have a bad mood and view to me as a gambler.

How does gambling be good to us? It has more bad effects than do good. Well I think gambling is just a waste of money. Nothing more.
I think that depends on how you treat it, gambling is fun if you are gambling for fun but if you seek for money then you have to manage the
risk very well and employ a good strategy in order to win. We dictate what we do, so we have to be always responsible to experience only the fun and not the worst thing that would make us regret in the end.
- Yeah, all depends on us, gambling is not related to right and wrong, the problem is in the user, more accurately in the gambler, if we gamble for fun and with comfortable psychology, using gambling in this situation would be a good purpose but if we are too focused on profit, forget about the purpose of gambling, it is entertaining for players and profitable for the creator, we will fail, we use the wrong purpose, the price for this action is that our money will be lost, we were wrong, we should not blame gambling

You are right which the real problem is on the gambler itself not on the game itself because we do let our addiction control us this is why we do foolish things along the way and which can be considered wrong already because we are already compromising important things that supposed to be prioritized than on gambling alone. We should really be aware on ourselves on not coming to this point.
7279  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in - Win free Bitcoins every hour! on: December 22, 2017, 09:32:54 AM
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My alternative suggestion for this withdrawal fee.

Anyway, I never withdraw any money from this site because I claim few times to get few lottery tickets. For those people who really trying to withdraw coins from this site even though your charging very small fee amount but for those guys takes a lot of time to earn that fee amount. So you can consider allowing them to withdraw the amount in some other altcoins so that those guys can save some transaction fee amount.

this will introduce a lot of issues.
altcoins prices are pretty volatile so they either have to have that altcoin already which means they have to invest their money in that altcoin and lose money if it goes down. and pay people based on the current market rate. which means implementing a new system for withdrawals and lots of security audits.

or they have to  do the exchange on the fly as people make withdrawal claims. for example using something like ShapeShift. but that will require additional fees for  exchanging bitcoin to those altcoins and for those who want to withdraw a small amount and are worried about 3000 satoshi, that fee will also not be acceptable.

The site has to find some good alternative otherwise they may lose a lot of faucets claiming people because no one wants to waste so much time to earn small amount and pay such a high fee.

So far site manages to pull so many people because of no withdrawal fee. Now, these guys need to claim few weeks just to earn fee amount. If they don't find a good alternative then finally, the site will be left with people like me who claim few times in a few to buy some lottery tickets.
Fees would really be a major thing that would affect this sites operation which i dont either believe that they would sustain to pay up tx fees because they are not dumb enough to do such thing considering on the amount that we should put up to make a transaction or transfer. They should really find some alternative ways or else it would really give a serious impact to the site specially lots of people do make use of this site for their faucet thing.
7280  Economy / Gambling / Re: WE GAMBLE BITCIONS on: December 22, 2017, 09:14:09 AM
This site is actually legit in my own view https://www.lotoreal.com.do/   : but on the thing you are proposing here is really shady. I dont have much idea on how the system works regarding on odds regarding 3 numbers which means if you do need to select 3 numbers on ranges 1-100 then that would give you 3% of winning and the potential hit up on price would be on x10 multiplier. I dont know actually the mechanics completely but the main issue here is that no one would really easily entrust their $1 so easily  Cool
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