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741  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: Differences in 5850's on: July 02, 2011, 12:44:35 AM
Why would you want to run a 5850 at 425mh/s?

You literally earn just a few cents more, but cut the card's effective lifespan to a few months. The stock frequency is 725, it wont last for long OC'ed to something such as 950mhz (or more).

I'd rather take the 0.02BTC less per day and have the card last longer at 380-400 mhash. If mining ever becomes unprofitable you can sell those cards even a year down the road.

Maybe people fail to realize warranty doesn't cover overclocking and volting
742  Economy / Economics / Re: Withdrawl bitcoins to paypal on: July 01, 2011, 11:54:00 PM
ahhh shit. ok bitcoin7 is fine, i have no problem using. What if i went dwolla ---> liberty res ---> paypal

Why would you want to pay triple fees if not just to hide the origins of the cash?
That's none of my business though.

The easiest way is Mt. Gox -> Bank. Doesn't take more than a few business days.
743  Economy / Economics / Re: $50,000 Loans that Don't Have to be Repaid on: July 01, 2011, 11:45:30 PM
be happy you're in america. you don't want to know how much of our money in germany goes to some real parasites. you wouldn't want to pay $2.20/ltr gasoline, of which $0.95 is energy taxes and another $0.20 vat, either. you wouldn't want energy prices of about 35c/kWh. just be happy to be able to help your neighbors who actually pay taxes.
I'll help my neighbors by my own accord. I need no man to tell me who and how I should help with the fruits of my own labor. I am still being coerced which is not an acceptable compromise. I am either entitled to myself or a slave.

How do you physically prevent a group of 50 people with assault rifles from stealing the fruits of your labor just because they're stronger than you?

All I'm saying is, I'll be first to admit I can't do shit against looters on my own even if I had guns. Doesn't have to be the apocalypse, just something like hurricane Katrina in New Orleans a few years ago.

The only thing keeping people from banding together and looting every home and village, is the fact there are heavily armed police officers within a 10 mile radius of my house. That's reality.

If you don't believe it, go to Congo or Somalia. The state barely exists there. Only the warlord with the most physical force gets to decide anything.
Poorest states in the world, most rapes and robberies, living hell on Earth.
744  Economy / Economics / Re: $50,000 Loans that Don't Have to be Repaid on: July 01, 2011, 11:30:50 PM
You don't see the problem ?

I don't remember signing anywhere that my neighbor's
mortgage was my problem. Yet it apparently is since my
tax money now pays for it.
Yeah, and in return, your neighbor helps you when you're in trouble. As I said, I don't see the problem.
Uh, so it's all fine and dandy to steal my money, then you can help me out when it's convenient?

FUCK YOU, PARASITE! There's no other way to say it. You have no respect for man! You only have respect when its convenient for your whims and desires!

When you get sick suddenly, you will need the help from people. If your house burns down you will need help from other people.

If your local store is being robbed you will need help from other people.
Just by living in society, you are using the tax money and resources of other people.

You are only a non-parasite if you feed yourself off the land, consume self-produced electricity and protect your family with firearms and self-learned medical skills.

Otherwise, you exist only because the tax money of other people sustain your life and protect you from the power of the physically stronger and ruthless by spending other people's tax money on a military and police force.

The only thing stopping brutes from stealing your TV, cute puppy, bitcoin rigs & raping your wife is 'other people' who have agreed to pay money to help each other as a collective society when necessary.

There are also states where this isn't the case, with no real central government; Like Somalia.
If you aren't part of any of the strong local clans with powerful firearms and vehicles, your life will be crap and your possessions will be taken all the time. That's what happens when you let 'nature take it's course' among humans
745  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: Sapphire 6990s In Stock - SuperBiiz (Limit 1 per customer) on: July 01, 2011, 07:26:36 PM
There is a reason why they are so popular with miners, even experienced ones: It conserves PCI-e space.

It's practically 4 5770's worth of hashing power in 1 card. This means if you use extender cables you can use up to 4 of these for a 3.2gh/s rig.

Sure you can buy cheaper cards, but with that comes the fact you also need to build an entire system around them:
Your amount of required PSU's, motherboards, CPU's, RAM sticks and casing will increase, so you might not end up saving that much.
746  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: BTCPool24.com - Official Support Thread on: July 01, 2011, 05:08:42 PM
Stales skyrocketed to over 10%, had to change all miners away from your pool.
747  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How Paypal did it - Bitcoin should do the same - 10BTC Bounty for implementation on: July 01, 2011, 04:17:26 PM
I think fast block chain setup is important too.

Nothing says impulse buy like a 2 hour delay before you can actually do anything Smiley.

How about only verifying small bits of the blockchain based on a random algorithm?
(For example, block 1450, block 86826, block 127691, block 34772 etc.. Then they get confirmed by anonymous peers on the BTC network to be valid, and the blocks change each time)
 
Might be much more feasible and faster than downloading hundreds of megabytes of data, and should be just as secure.
748  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: BTCPool24.com - Official Support Thread on: July 01, 2011, 04:01:38 PM
hi

sorry i dont quite understand this, i dont speak german. once first block is solved there will be 48 coins split between the top 3-4 workers? What are the exact splits? So say I mine 20-30% of shares and im first, i get the %shares + %bonus? so say 12-15btc + 13btc? Ive sent 8 ghash to your pool, please let me know, thanks

TheKoolio

I think he changed it so that there is no bonus now.

Admin, can you say is there still a bonus for the 1st round or not? If not, there is little incentive to search for 1st block besides testing your pool.

Pools like BTCGuild will share 50 BTC and not 48.
I'm obviously cautious to be sending 7-8+ ghash because it might be you deleted the 13, 8, 5 (?) rewards for 3 top spot. 8 ghash is worth about $100 dollars a day on deepbit PPS.

In that case it's irrelevant to get to those spots; Might just as well stop mining and collect a few BTC later & go to a pool that pays out a full block.
749  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Price stability, difficulty changes, fairness. infnite coins is NOT inflation on: July 01, 2011, 03:20:06 PM
I would not actually call it something like that Tongue.  I would call them hashcoins.

You do realize that name will attract a bunch of pot smokers and will be percieved as such in public?
750  Economy / Economics / Re: Mt Gox outragious 3% now, then 6.5% transaction fee on: July 01, 2011, 02:26:20 PM
2nd grade called and said 0.30% is ten times less than 3%.
751  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Mining computer turns off after 16-18 hours on: July 01, 2011, 08:28:43 AM
I've received 'critical updates' even after unchecking all options for automatic updates and disabling it at every possible level.
At worst the computer has restarted for updating just after I went to sleep so it's been idle for 8+ hours.

Not particularly fun booting up a 4+card rig if you're out of dummy plugs.
752  Economy / Economics / Re: What gives a fiat currency its initial value? on: July 01, 2011, 08:21:27 AM
You may be legally obligated to pay taxes after selling some gold to your buddy, but that doesn't necessarily mean the law is enforceable in that situation.

You can also sell firearms off-the-record to a 'buddy' or a shady character, even if a license or transfer fee is required by the ATF.
You might grow pot at home, sell it to some friends and not tell anyone about it because it's 'harmless'.

You are still taking a risk of imprisonment every time no matter how small you perceive the risk to be.
753  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: New Pool with high Pay outs on: July 01, 2011, 07:55:34 AM
The hash rate is relatively stable over 10gh now.
A block could be found in a week if a few more users committed small farms.

There is some incentive even for casuals: 1.95BTC finders fee.
754  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: ** BitcoinPool.com back online after DDoS attack ** on: July 01, 2011, 01:18:02 AM
Yandex abuse team doesn't give a shit about western companies or people emailing them.

They even have $USD rates on blackhat IRC for which they will let you use
domain ranges and bandwidth for spam, fraud, denial of service or other illegal activity without alerting the authorities or pulling the plug on you

These aren't just individual PC's or infections, they are renting their content crawlers in Ukraine and Russia for high bidders.

http://webhosting.bigresource.com/Should-I-block-Yandex-IMB0TFDV.html
755  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: hd 6950 crazy temps ?! on: July 01, 2011, 01:01:59 AM
92c is normal only on a 6990 core or a 5970 core. 102 is unstable for any GPU.

Your 6950 should stay at 65-80c if you add a simple table fan next to it.

Or download MSI Afterburner and set the fan speed to 100%.
You can also do this in Catalyst control center.
756  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: This should be kept secret! !!!!!!!!!!!! on: July 01, 2011, 12:20:44 AM
Build a time machine and tell gold speculators and businessmen in 1800's Klondyke they shouldn't be buying ounces of gold at 70 cents.

They might be worth thousands some day and people would feel jealous.
757  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: New Pool with high Pay outs on: July 01, 2011, 12:00:08 AM
Well seems I am being proved correct. Here come the mega rigs and all the people mining from the first days are about to have their spots taken and pushed down the BTC ladder, including who I assume is the pool owner. 6990er came in first of the week and has been on the pool off and on yet is a day away from kicking out mcmeidi (pool owner) from the top spot and in turn will allow Jack and Paul to likely kick Dilithium out of #3 even though that user has been active pretty much non-stop.


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You are discounting something:

At this difficulty it could be easily 2-3 million shares before any block is found by BTCpool24, without phenomenal luck.
There wont be even a million anytime soon, so if someone is looking for a quick cashout that's just a fool's gamble.

I'm just testing the waters with a few ghash, seeing how many stales/invalids, downtime, stability
Not going to mine 24/7 or move any deepbit/slush rigs there.
758  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [~4000 Gh/s] DeepBit.net PPS+Prop,instant payouts, we pay for INVALID BLOCKS too on: June 30, 2011, 10:03:56 PM
It means you solved that block, if you solo'd you would have received 50coins.

Ok, makes sense.

And yes the pool was down for about 5 mins, client was giving "deepbit is temporarily unavailable", but workers are now back up.
759  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [~6MH/S btcpool24 Now stable version online on: June 30, 2011, 09:18:35 PM
Ok,threw a 3ghs cluster there.

Can you enable changing of worker password?
760  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [~4000 Gh/s] DeepBit.net PPS+Prop,instant payouts, we pay for INVALID BLOCKS too on: June 30, 2011, 08:08:57 PM
Why are some blocks bolded on the stats?
I noticed this a few times back when I had more capacity on deepbit, but just noticed it recently as well.



I know it wasn't the longest round of the day so that can't be it.
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