Forgot a few things:

9. We are in talks and review with BTC38, they have a detailed breakdown of our premine initiatives and up to date efforts and some future efforts, all hope is not lost. It does suck that we got removed, however like any good debate, this has caused a lot of good attention in the Chinese markets re how quality control is handled and how adding/removing based on a few 'complaints' (by design or by real folks) can mess with a coin/brand. We even have an apology from the main editor for disclosing some info we wanted to be used for their internal team. All in all it's been a bit confusing for us but we're handling it and you may well see us not only back on there on a listing but actually being traded.

10. volume: I said this in the IRC channel earlier today. Right now isn't the most ideal time to point it out as it has lowered, however in retrospect it may be even more ideal as it's still wayyyyyy bigger than any coin. Go to Coinex, look at our 24hr volume, it's been as high as 50-60btc. Now go to literally all other coins one at a time, look at theirs. We've been their go to coin since showing up there and they had to upgrade (I can only assume it was due to our volume, I am not sure, but taking a good guess) their system due to growth for eac showing up there. Coinedup is a bit of a different setup and they are just experiencing the joys of adding coins so it's gone rampant/tons of coins added lately, some removed/being removed already. I'm willing to guess we still contributed to their growth to some degree too as they listed us first.

11. value: Yes, it was as high as 8-9 for a short while and had to find its real value. I was in absolute shock watching it hit those numbers and knew it wouldn't last, and kinda wish it didn't do that as it gave everyone a false hope of a continuous incline for a few folds and some of you bought really high and now are nervous/pissed/waiting to exit or at least take half. I've been in your shoes, I've gotten absolutely spanked and was stupid enough to take a 50% cut just to get out of that position and to keep trying to make back my profit elsewhere instead of being idle in a slow growth or decline and freaking out. Most recently when Bitcoin was at 300-400 in November, I took a vacation for a week. Just before leaving I was going to cashout my btc to be safe as it was tumbling and I wanted to buy in on a new low hopefully - instead I took a shot and went on vacation leaving everything in btc. I came back to 800+/btc and my associates all freaking out, China was just making it rain and I was on a beach, clueless, instead of here watching charts worrying about exit/enter/timing/news/etc. It may sound like I'm preaching but I'm just sharing a story of how time shifts everything, you may be right be leaving and trying to make back profit faster elsewhere, but you may hate yourself if the few catalysts that are coming up happen shortly after you bounce.

12. Yes.it's.only.20.days.old. We're not a meme, we're not a full blown agency campaign, we're the most real grass roots movement I've ever witnessed by a collective viral force but we're still TINY compared to the top 5. Still - in 20 days, we've created a world, we've developed more assets than any agency could take on, offshore/outsourcing included. We've come farther in 20 days as far as big picture goes than I think any coin has sans Doge, I have nothing but respect for the marketing/genius and 'bait into crypto' of doge.

13. Wait 13 is unlucky, I'll save my thoughts for Monday (or tomorrow if the trolls and baiters get to me).

Night!

Still sick, promised I wouldn't post, can't help it need to write a few things.

1. The instant-wallet/online wallet issue: From the start of this thread you'll see me say we're shying away from online wallets due to risk/security. I got PM'd by the guy that did this and he seemed serious/professional, I'm still not even sure that this is/isn't a scam as way too many points of contact and info are coming in to do a proper audit so I simply removed it from the website.

***I'm personally going to take responsibility for this, it's nobody elses fault but mine, nobody else on the team really even see's or knows how many assets are flung at me to package, link to, verify, etc. So I'm going to go digging tomorrow and get to the bottom of the online wallet. If I find that it is a scam, and is provable beyond a doubt, and the developer of it is mia and refuses to work things through = I will personally refund your eac.

2. Treehugging is allowed, not expected. We're trying a few things differently, and appealing to the masses and good causes, so what?

Does that mean we hate profit? No.

I'm not doing this just to get sick from working my ass off on it for no return yet, but feel good that a tree is at least being planted and food is reaching the homeless while half of you freak out on us (well shit, I do feel really good about the trees and helping the homeless though, don't take that away from me!), but this effort and all the others are but one branch on our tree. The name lends itself to a lot, including having good things backfire re "no good deed goes unpunished". It's been quite reactive for us and we're taking in everyone's suggestions as realistically as we can. Go through the thread you'll see the foundation be suggested by you guys. You'll see good efforts being suggested by you guys, we're enablers but it's a collective thing overall.

****Do I want the family to hold hands and sing kumbaya? Not exactly.

DO I expect a muslim and an american to hold hands and get along? Well maybe not hold hands but yes I do see room to let everyone get along and not be divided or indoctrinated by your side of the worlds storytellers/media/religions/etc. It's not going to solve every problem in the world but the last thing we want is overly patriotic people thinking they are #1, better than anyone, or 'right' because their gov/media told them one side of a story. Think for yourselves, no muslim has done me any wrong, I live in an extremely diverse area of the world that doesn't cater to racism or terrorist calling cards, it's multicultural and I can eat Chinese food at lunch, while walking past a mosque to get there, and take a taxi back with a cool native or afghani taxi driver to get home where a handful of nationalities greet me in my lobby as the concierge change shifts. You think you'd get away with saying some of the things you read here you'd be ostracized pretty damn quick and you'd be targeted by all in turn.

3. The team is spread out across the Western part of the world - we're doing an interview soon and you'll learn a little more about us and how this project got started in the near future.

4. We're being integrated on CoinPayments, and we are also releasing our own mini payment gateway soon so merchants can utilize our system easier. This also means a merchant page is coming and it also means we'll be fleshing out an inventory page like nothing you've seen yet .

5. The exchange, I'd appreciate if we could just leave that alone, it's months away, no need to speculate. The beta testers signed up to the email list will get invites when ready. Fiat probably won't happen until phase two we will be legit from every angle legally not doing some underground quick cheap three day build but a real inc etc.

6. Thank you to the senior long term visionaries, adults, intellectuals, and enlightened folks who are sticking up for the brand and the team.

7. It's Saturday night - hope you guys are enjoying it.

Thank you!

Well community we have had some great developments since EarthCoin's birth.  I won't rehash debates, arguments, acceptance, conspiracies, excitement and belief.  You guys have been great though for the most part in your contributions and the merchants and charitable organizations and the like.  To read about a student body in Italy whose belief in the currency promotes their own views of sustainability and the future is simply humbling.  From our perspective EarthCoin is far from a pump and dump but more as a gift to humanity to eliminate borders and barriers and differences - mainly paper money currency differences!  However do not kid yourself that many people if not a majority at the beginning of the creation of a crypto-currency, have pure profit in mind and it is totally understood and expected.  Time horizons and especially beliefs are simply different.  This is not a bad thing but definitely something the community should understand is a "necessary evil."

Merchants, Charitable Organizations, let alone speculators, have overhead or profits in mind.  At the beginning this accumulates on the sell side with tens of millions of coins distributed amongst tens of thousands of people but over on the buy side you have millions of coins distributed amongst only thousands of people.  Clearly there is an imbalance.  Until that equilibrium is reached where tens of millions of coins amongst tens of thousands of people selling equals tens of millions of coins amongst tens of thousands of people buying the price will have to fall.  Maybe we are already there but I doubt it.  Bitcoin took two years to reach this level of sustainability.  However we have many advantages over Bitcoin.

We are more advanced.  We are faster, more efficient and have the luxury of all coins that have come before us to spread the information so our adoptability portion of time has definitely been condensed!  Three weeks doubtful ha!  However there is definitely something happening with $35,000USD worth of trade occurring in a 24 hour period.  What we also have is us, the EarthCoin development team and extended organization - more valuable than anything any coin has ever had.  You!

In saying that, there is only one way to build the buy side of a coin and speed up its adoptability and that is the spread of accurate information.  So I feel in a extremely short period of time I/we have definitely got the engine running.  It is sputtering and needs some injection line cleaner and clearly more fuel, but it is running.  I will be cutting back on the menial tasks and reducing my frustration with the conspiracy theories and trying to bite my tongue with stupidity and I am asking the community to do what it does best - self-police, self-regulate.  I will be supporting all of you in much larger ways behind the scenes and you will be seeing the results of it on web pages, partnerships and publications as our organization is spreading and the possibilities of appearing in the Wall Street Journal and the like appear to not be too far away from reality.  I am not leaving but I am also not going to hold your hand through the fluctuations of adoption.  I literally have worked myself into a frenzy and have been severely sick for the entire week getting progressively worse because there are no moments to rest.  You are all big boys and girls here, more educated with what we are doing than anyone as evidenced by your participation on the message board alone.  Do what you do best, create opportunity, spread accurate information regarding EarthCoin and ask people a very simple question - Why is your paper money worth anything?  Their answer will sound comical when compared to a decentralized mechanism with 100% transparency and accountability.  As an aside, if you follow economics, there is a reason that the Federal Reserve stopped issuing the M3 numbers in its publications.  The value of the money supply simply shot right off the sheet!  Even when the graph was scaled logarithmically, it still looked ridiculous.  There was no solution other than to stop publishing it.  That is the value behind paper money.

So I will be back on Monday and will be working in the shadows for the weekend.  There will definitely be many surprises and wonderful events occurring in the near future.  I am not even aware of what some will be - but I know they are coming because I can feel and see what is happening with our community, providers, moderators and contributors.   Don't burn the house down and just stay healthy, we will buy the rest!

Small but cool update.

WE'RE PLANTING AN EARTHCOIN FOREST!

http://www.earthcoin.biz/eac_foundation.html

I don't want to say TOOOO much just yet but it's real, and we'll be doing a cool campaign around it .

We are not keeping any 'latest news' from anyone, there is nothing important or major to report and I don't believe in blind/pointless hype.

When there is news you guys will be the first to know.

Why assume things?

The link is in the OP

Chinese version :: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=383980.0

Also Chinese version of the website :: http://www.earthcoin.cn/

Please stop advertising this game/gamble in this thread That goes for all - we regret these were even made to be honest.

Thank you.

**Thx for the reminder, they've been removed from the OP and from the main website. Please do not advertise it I don't care what the objective or reason.

Please stop advertising this game/gamble in this thread That goes for all - we regret these were even made to be honest.

Thank you.

We're ok.

You scared me

Gentle bump as this was the last post on the previous page and might get missed for a bit, kinda important...

Well - I just got a response :: This doesn't mean anything regarding a timeline nor has anything changed from my previous time reaching out to him. I know it's important to everyone however it's also important to me not to be aggressive or pushy so this REALLY is my last time bugging him about this.






EDIT: And in b4 'fake/photoshop/thatsnotHim/proveit'

Great Job +1.

EDIT: I just sent you 25,000 eac, please do another one tomorrow.

^ I LOL'D! That was much needed thanks - tip sent

General update:

* Thanks - everyone - for everything so far. This has been an insane journey for us (well for me at least). 230 pages of insanity - and finally we can come up for a bit of air and take a look at this from an eagle's eye viewpoint vs a worm in the trenches.

* A lot is happening that we could not have predicted, and these unforeseens will probably continue to happen in this wild wild west environment. From free coin generators to copyright infringement frenzies, to exchanges not giving us a fair shot for whatever reasons despite obvious quality and effort from all involved far surpassing most of the slates out there, to competitors or critics going far out of their way to stifle our growth in many creative ways. We're still motoring!

* We'll be spending the next phase on top level priorities and networking with exchanges. I actually reached out to BigVern on my Skype yesterday morning despite my efforts not to bug him - and have not had a response yet - we're not that 'close' so I feel funny continuing to wag my tail over and over at him, if there is an update you're all the first to know. Something is DEFINITELY happening over there, we just hope we're a part of it sooner than later now.

* Not worried about our logo, go to google images and look for 'e logos', there's tons and I made sure we're far off from their shape, thickness, treatment, sub logo's to boot re the earth vs the 'e'.

* Chinese exchanges/networking, as you can see we have a 'Chinese version' link from our main site to our Chinese teams site - yes we're taking it seriously and yes we'd like to be included in their exchanges too obviously . However I understand with the crazy dilution why more exchanges are implementing thicker filters quick.

* More info coming soon, today looks like it's going to be a busy one.

Hi Sammy,

Sure sending you a PM now, thanks for getting back to us!

I did delete it, and now I'm just going to put you on ignore.

It worked, you got me a bit mad, congrats That's all you did though, you're silly to think your participation is going to sway things here.

There may be others in the future so just know that we will never be selling our coins or offering sales/discounts/anything through any platform - if you see anyone trying to represent the eac team and selling coins = it's a redflag for a scam ahead. The @earthcoin account seems gone now.

both earthcoin.biz and getearthcoin.com are internal, the .biz is actually the official site, the .com is just forwarded because I came in late and didn't like the .biz extension so grabbbed the getearthcoin.com domain for branding..

First foundation is officially on board after talking to them on the phone and explaining crypto/eac.

http://www.earthcoin.biz/eac_foundation.html

PR coming out soon probably on both sites (ours and theirs)

**Edit: The money is just a side effect of a powerful daily routine. I'm not even checking the price atm, it's irrelevant for those in it for the long term. You miners with immediate expenses, I don't have advice for you as I haven't been down that road so no I don't expect you to remain loyal or not dump as you mine until you see the price/value go up - that's fine, it will happen naturally when it does not due to something in our control otherwise we'd be doing just that (in fact we are, however many expect an incline only and can't remember the days of the recent litecoin flux from pennies to double digit dollars, nevermind btc flux even today).

Keep it coming, we need the critiques, going to be hard to get all this across perfectly and might do a few revisions still.

The 'rich' graphic, is not referring to a couple hundred K/year rich, it's the .0001% control rich.

Mining has little to do with the video - for all you know, all these rigs and mining equipment will be used for something much greater downstream. Technology + the earth are merging faster and faster. While we can't please all viewers the main overall important points seem hidden conveniently, and all some of you look at is where and how you can poke at this. "mining is bad therefore green energy fail", that's rather shortsighted. Here - http://www.2045.com - why does tech have to ruin energy projects or taking the earth more seriously be so anti-crypto?

If anyone wants to animate to the audio/voiceover let me know you're free to 'tell the story' in your own concepts.

SECONDED

Please stop.

Here, look, while you were arguing, I made this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XBXLmplONI

Please be productive, nothing good is coming from the static above.

EDIT: That's three pages in a row where my post ends up first on the page (not by design). Order might have changed or posts might have been removed, but still, random.