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741  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Black Arrow 28nm 100Ghash Bitcoin ASIC from $1.99/GH/s, miners from $2.97/GH/s on: February 14, 2014, 12:47:50 AM
Is there any evidence Black Arrow is using Global?  I had the impression they were working with SMIC.
https://ecointalk.net/topic/368-who-is-producing-the-minion/?p=1195
742  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Black Arrow 28nm 100Ghash Bitcoin ASIC from $1.99/GH/s, miners from $2.97/GH/s on: February 14, 2014, 12:05:03 AM
They basically said exactly what BA had been telling us. If that would be a violation of the NDA, then BA would have been in violation of it a long time ago. Specifics about the deal are under NDA most likely, not broad facts that BA has been telling us this whole time (ie 28nm ASIC being made by verisilicon and globalfoundries)
743  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Black Arrow 28nm 100Ghash Bitcoin ASIC from $1.99/GH/s, miners from $2.97/GH/s on: February 13, 2014, 10:51:44 PM
Yup, I initially sent the email to:
all-sales@verisilicon.com
but it bounced back (via postmaster@verisilicon.com), telling me that it wasn't a valid address, even though I got it from here:
http://www.verisilicon.com/newsdetail_218_VeriSiliconAnnouncesZSPG4ArchitectureandZSP981Core.html

Then I sent it to these addresses:
press@verisilicon.com
china-sales@verisilicon.com
europe-sales@verisilicon.com
us-sales@verisilicon.com
taiwan-sales@verisilicon.com

After that, I got the reply back from robert.kuang@verisilicon.com who also CC'ed it to Zheng.Xu@verisilicon.com

So unless Verisilicon is in on a huuuuge scam operation, I think we're safe. Cheesy
744  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Black Arrow 28nm 100Ghash Bitcoin ASIC from $1.99/GH/s, miners from $2.97/GH/s on: February 13, 2014, 10:20:31 PM
Lol comprised email? That's the best you can come up with?

You fudsters are really running out of juice now. Maybe take a few days off to recharge your batteries and come back when you have any legit criticism.

Also sending an email to a nonexistent email address normally forwards to the companies catch all address. So unless verisilicon is incredibly incompetent I think the email is legit. Not sure why I bother addressing the fudsters as you will be back with more conspiracies tomorrow.

Anyways thanks goozman96 for giving us the details even though it might pain you to say something in support of BA (considering you didn't seem to happy with them not too long ago)
I have a horse in this race so I want BA to be successful. I was just highly dissatisfied with their support and response to questions/concerns. The reason it was pointed out that the email had been compromised in the past was because of this link:
http://dazzlepod.com/csdn/?page=4893
In addition, you can do a search for verisilicon and see:
http://dazzlepod.com/csdn/?email=verisilicon

But the person that was CCed in the email to me does not have his email on that list of compromised emails (mind you, this is from several years ago).
745  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Black Arrow 28nm 100Ghash Bitcoin ASIC from $1.99/GH/s, miners from $2.97/GH/s on: February 13, 2014, 10:01:19 PM
Honestly, if the account was still compromised, he wouldn't CC his reply to someone else in the same company, because it's probably standard protocol to document all emails.

I just want to clarify that you have contacted verisilicon and received confirmation of a contract with BA? Is there still any reason to believe there is some bullshit going on?

Its very hard to understand whats going on with all the fudsters spamming this thread.
Yup. The only little piece of doubt remaining is that the email that replied to me was compromised a few years ago, but I feel as though that doubt can be counteracted with the fact that his reply to me was CCed to another person in the company as well (why would a scammer do that?). So I feel okay about it, and hopefully when Zheng replies to me himself, this can all be put to bed.



"why would a scammer do that?"

I suppose a scammer would do that to make it appear that they were indeed dealing with more than one lone person who may be fraudulently using a compromised email.

If I send a CC on an email to a made-up name, lets say Cindy.Qing@versilicon.cn, would you be able to tell if the email to Cindy was rejected and bounced back undelivered or properly sent to a legitimate employee?

No, probably not.

-----





Please email matt.robertson@blackarrowsoftware.com in our US office or shirley.desheng@blackarrowsoftware.com in our China office, thanks.

To contact our fabrication partner email Chau.YangMen@versilicon.cn and or call direct on +86 10 6553 2288

Seems legit?

Lmao!

Cheesy


Well I did send an email to Zheng and it hasn't bounced back.
746  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Black Arrow 28nm 100Ghash Bitcoin ASIC from $1.99/GH/s, miners from $2.97/GH/s on: February 13, 2014, 09:29:03 PM
Honestly, if the account was still compromised, he wouldn't CC his reply to someone else in the same company, because it's probably standard protocol to document all emails.

I just want to clarify that you have contacted verisilicon and received confirmation of a contract with BA? Is there still any reason to believe there is some bullshit going on?

Its very hard to understand whats going on with all the fudsters spamming this thread.
Yup. The only little piece of doubt remaining is that the email that replied to me was compromised a few years ago, but I feel as though that doubt can be counteracted with the fact that his reply to me was CCed to another person in the company as well (why would a scammer do that?). So I feel okay about it, and hopefully when Zheng replies to me himself, this can all be put to bed.
747  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Black Arrow 28nm 100Ghash Bitcoin ASIC from $1.99/GH/s, miners from $2.97/GH/s on: February 13, 2014, 08:38:19 PM
Honestly, if the account was still compromised, he wouldn't CC his reply to someone else in the same company, because it's probably standard protocol to document all emails.
748  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Black Arrow 28nm 100Ghash Bitcoin ASIC from $1.99/GH/s, miners from $2.97/GH/s on: February 13, 2014, 08:22:24 PM
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So, a third party member who is totally unaffiliated and actually has been doubting us as much as everyone else has contacted a third party company who confirmed we are a customer.

I must be missing something because it seems to me like there is still a lot of doubt we are who we say we are.

Notwithstanding who BA Matt is, this...

408 844 8560

http://www.verisilicon.com/worldwideoffice.html

Odd! I just got off the phone and the lady doesn't know a Rober Kuang or of any Black Arrow.

Call them yourselves.

By the way, I specifically asked if Verilisilicon would release any information on any company contracting through them and she said no. Then, she starting asking who I was and what company I represented.

Call the number above and ask for yourselves.

Also, ask her if a Bruno Kucinskas called.
Did you call the China offices?
749  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Black Arrow 28nm 100Ghash Bitcoin ASIC from $1.99/GH/s, miners from $2.97/GH/s on: February 13, 2014, 08:21:55 PM
So, just to confirm I have this right.

An independent member on this forum has reached out to a third party. The third party company gave confirmation that Black Arrow is a customer and the specs look accurate. Is that right?

in part. of course, yes.

So, a third party member who is totally unaffiliated and actually has been doubting us as much as everyone else has contacted a third party company who confirmed we are a customer.

I must be missing something because it seems to me like there is still a lot of doubt we are who we say we are.
Because a user pointed out that the email had been compromised in the past.

Did you by any chance try to contact the other e-mail address cc'd on your initial e-mail thread with Mr. Huang or Kwang? (I can't remember and I'm not looking through 3 pages to find out)  I know PH said that his, Huang/Kwang, was compromised but what about that other gentleman, I thought the consensus was that his apparently hadn't been.
Yes. Haven't received a reply yet.
750  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Black Arrow 28nm 100Ghash Bitcoin ASIC from $1.99/GH/s, miners from $2.97/GH/s on: February 13, 2014, 08:08:49 PM
So, just to confirm I have this right.

An independent member on this forum has reached out to a third party. The third party company gave confirmation that Black Arrow is a customer and the specs look accurate. Is that right?

in part. of course, yes.

So, a third party member who is totally unaffiliated and actually has been doubting us as much as everyone else has contacted a third party company who confirmed we are a customer.

I must be missing something because it seems to me like there is still a lot of doubt we are who we say we are.
Because a user pointed out that the email had been compromised in the past.
751  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Black Arrow 28nm 100Ghash Bitcoin ASIC from $1.99/GH/s, miners from $2.97/GH/s on: February 13, 2014, 07:25:41 PM
They have Globalfoundries for that.
752  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Black Arrow 28nm 100Ghash Bitcoin ASIC from $1.99/GH/s, miners from $2.97/GH/s on: February 13, 2014, 06:48:41 PM
http://dazzlepod.com/csdn/?email=verisilicon
Zheng.Xu isn't on that list, so hopefully he can confirm..

I was under the assumption that Zheng is you, hence to Zheng, me.

And why all the effort to block out Kuang, but leave one?
No, it's not me. I blocked it out cuz I wanted to respect his privacy, but leave enough visible for authenticity. But since his email was compromised and published.... oh well.


Cc mean carbon copy not forward.
I know. It means that the reply he sent to me was also sent to another employee (probably as a safety measure)
753  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Black Arrow 28nm 100Ghash Bitcoin ASIC from $1.99/GH/s, miners from $2.97/GH/s on: February 13, 2014, 06:46:16 PM
http://dazzlepod.com/csdn/?email=verisilicon
Zheng.Xu isn't on that list, so hopefully he can confirm..

I was under the assumption that Zheng is you, hence to Zheng, me.

And why all the effort to block out Kuang, but leave one?
No, it's not me. I blocked it out cuz I wanted to respect his privacy, but leave enough visible for authenticity. But since his email was compromised and published.... oh well.

754  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Black Arrow 28nm 100Ghash Bitcoin ASIC from $1.99/GH/s, miners from $2.97/GH/s on: February 13, 2014, 06:33:53 PM
http://dazzlepod.com/csdn/?email=verisilicon
Zheng.Xu isn't on that list, so hopefully he can confirm..
755  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Black Arrow 28nm 100Ghash Bitcoin ASIC from $1.99/GH/s, miners from $2.97/GH/s on: February 13, 2014, 06:26:26 PM
Well in his reply, he did CC someone else:
Zheng.Xu@verisilicon.com
756  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Black Arrow 28nm 100Ghash Bitcoin ASIC from $1.99/GH/s, miners from $2.97/GH/s on: February 13, 2014, 06:24:56 PM
408 844 8560

http://www.verisilicon.com/worldwideoffice.html

Odd! I just got off the phone and the lady doesn't know a Rober Kuang or of any Black Arrow.

Call them yourselves.
Can you try calling the China offices?
757  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Black Arrow 28nm 100Ghash Bitcoin ASIC from $1.99/GH/s, miners from $2.97/GH/s on: February 13, 2014, 06:23:51 PM
Goozman, what is employee from verisilicon gave you that confirmation.

Look here
http://dazzlepod.com/csdn/?page=4893
Somebody with email robert.kuang@verisilicon.com among many other email addresses has leaked compromised passwords.
I give up..
758  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Black Arrow 28nm 100Ghash Bitcoin ASIC from $1.99/GH/s, miners from $2.97/GH/s on: February 13, 2014, 05:54:10 PM
Sorry, I left something unredacted in the last post. Here it is again:

(20nm hypothesis was wrong, so what's the "surprise"? hmmm)

759  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Black Arrow 28nm 100Ghash Bitcoin ASIC from $1.99/GH/s, miners from $2.97/GH/s on: February 13, 2014, 04:39:43 PM
Also, it seems that everyone has to pay electricity costs for the last 2 months of the (not so) free hosting.

How they plan on enforcing this, idk..
760  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Black Arrow 28nm 100Ghash Bitcoin ASIC from $1.99/GH/s, miners from $2.97/GH/s on: February 13, 2014, 04:13:42 PM
I have received confirmation from Verisilicon directly that they are indeed working on a chip for Blackarrow and are a few days away from tape out. I can post a screenshot later.
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