This thread is for one thing only To call scammers out. With all the cloud mining bullshit new people and vets need a tool like this. We DO NOT want your opinion. We do not care what you THINK. We do not want trolls or fake supporters. Please if anyone has bad experiences with an of the folowing either post it here or if you dont have undeniable proof to meet the thread qualifications please PM me cloudminr.io zeushash.com hashprofit.com GAWminers.com cointellect.com or any others you have info about PLEASE This thread is to call them out, not boost them up!!! POST ONLY PROOF of scams. Proof of good activity is not wanted or required, this is to call them out on their scam business. Because some of us just want NO Problems, ONE problem is enough for me not to join a group, because 20 Good acts worth 0.00002000 BTC can not replace one bad act worth 20 Bitcoins  So keep your good trolling acts to yourself please Proof has to include a minimum of 1 Screenshots, copy of account interactions, email conversations, bitcoin transactions, some kind of undeniable proof. You words mean nothing, if you cant back it up with proof of some kind. List postings like this Name of scammer site reason for scam accusations proof I will start ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Coins-miners.com SCAM I put in a withdraw of 6mBTC ( 0.00600000 BTC) and after 33 hours they have not made the payment, the transaction they provided me is not found because it does not exist. Their customer support is NEVEZR online, and I tried contacting the admin directly on https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100004920046839 and he has ignored me completely. When I posted questions on thier https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=799577463437664 group they blocked me instantly. screenshot of the pending withdraw i put in at 7:48 AM December 15, it is now in this picture December 17 5:03 PM  When he did finally make a payment he sent it to a self generated wallet address by him.  He has a place on his site that has recent payments his site has made, He uses our usernames and payment requests we have made and sends the cons to his own generated wallet addresses instead of ours. This gives people the impression he is making payments to his members or as his site states "Partners" but what he is doing is sending our payment amounts to his own wallet by generating a new address. As you can see I clearly had the paymnent being sent to my address and then when the payment got approved it was sent to a different address than I had in pending. WOW what a full blown scam. |
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Coins-miners is a full blown scam. They have gone 33 hours now with no payout to my withdraw request, no replies to my emails and no reply to facebook queries. And because I posted so much proof of their scam on their facebook group with pictures and screenshots they even blocked me from the group like they have hundreds of others. THIS IS NOT SPECULATION this is truth. DO NOT USE Coins-Miners they are a proven scam. Admin Facebook https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100004920046839 this man will scam you. |
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Coins-miners is 33 hours behind in making my withdraw. I find it very curious that they have made over 30 withdraws since I put in my withdraw request. What kind of magical trickery is this? 33 hours and they p[rovide me a link so i can "view" the transaction how ironic the View link takes me to Blockchain info and says "NO TRANSACTION FOUND" this means they did not evebn process my transaction in 33 hours. Their customer support is never NEVER online and the guy to contact on facebook https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100004920046839 is not responding neither is their facebook site itself https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=799577463437664&ref=br_tf. They have now blocked me from there because I told the truth on thier site in ways they cant delete it. I am convinced Coins-Miners is a scam now, why else would they have blocked me on facebook. STAY AWAY FROM THEM. |
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if nothing drastic is canged in the Protocol then NO it will still be (I think it is) 2040 and only 21 million mined. that was how it was set up.
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I do own bitcoins, I mine them, I have cloud contracts, I loan them and make interest on them, I have referral business, a website and a facebook group. So with that said.
You should have left your explanation out and just put the poll up, because now the non owners will not say they don't own bitcoins, I mean how can they troll in here if someone out there might know they dont even own bitcoins.
I think the OP is so very right too, and in addition to his post, its even more amazing at the idiots trading bitcoins who have no clue as to what drives a currency market, how currency traded is done, . To sum it up, I am daily amazed at how many complete idiots are in this industry. Seriously, even some of the 2500 posts veterans you can tell just got in, got lucky and have no clue as to what they bought, how they got rich or what to do with the coins they have left over. then try and actually advise people as if they did something astoundingly wonderful.
Well guess what, getting lucky is not astounding, I get lucky in prime dice everyday, but it does not make me a gambling expert.
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The Rouble has fallen sharply against the dollar recently
but why this didn't call a strong buy in Bitcoin and bring the price up while the gold and oil are also going down?
I am just astounded as to the many people in bitcoins that just have no clue as to trading and its basic model mechanics. firstly Bicoin is NOT on thge foreign exchange, ( where all those others are traded daily) so the values of the other commodities you mentioned have absolutely no effect on bitocins value or its influence on others. also you mentioned 2 manipulated markets in there, and Bitcoin is not a market safe haven. Its a get rich quick scheme to investors, if they have extra cash laying around they might invest in bitcoins. Now your post in general shows how much you just do not understand currency trading, commodities and their power against each other. First the Rouble is not part of the USD index thus has absolutely no power in USD value. Gold however is greatly influenced by the USD and vice Versa. if USD value goes up gold goes down. OIL that is just a heavily manipulated market everywhere in the world. those guys are worse than the banks. So if in your post I see that the USD became stronger against rouble that tells me it is getting stronger by index because rouble has nothing to influence the USD value, in knowing this I would automatically ASSUME Gold and Oil will be decreasing, and guess what SO WILL SILVER now why did the USD get stronger, Because of low inventories reported and high consumer buying, in November. But this is an expected movement but it could have been higher than expected. This in addition to maybe some gold contracts possibly getting bought about this time would heavily influence both gold and USD. ADDED NOTE ( now if consumer spending increased higher than estimated what dopes that tell you about Bitcoins? NO ONE IS BUYING THEM OR USING THEM AND MORE PEOPLE ARE STILL USING CASH THAN WAS EXPECTED!!!!!) Absolutely NONE of this however, has any influence on Bitcoins value or its demand as an investment. |
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Nope buy at 100 dollas, thats when it is time to buy, Right now mine and save dont dump save save save cause when it hits 100 bucks again, all the rich idiots are gonna jump the bandwagon and make all us hoarders rich. Follow the rich dudes. |
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Yea i would not have ever trusted that site . Sorry its just me, But a no name, low volume exchange?? why are you even using them? Not that the big named ones are any less likely to take your coins and run, I was just curious.
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So I've seen this a lot as a reason to use Bitcoin or to get merchants to adopt it. You'll save 2-5% on payment processor fees so you can pass those savings on to the consumer. Whats the incentive on their part versus just increasing their profit due to decreased processing costs? The reason I ask is this:Oil prices are down a decent chunk since for about 6 months now, maybe 20% or so? I'm from NY and gas is averaging ~$2.90 here, down from ~$3.50 a few months back. Prices are cheaper in other states too. So why am I still being charged the same costs to ship packages via FedEx/UPS, or for cab rides? I fly at least once a month for business, but my airfares haven't come down at all either. So these companies are basically paying less for fuel costs but charging me the same amount. I have a feeling when quarterly earning reports are due for them, they'll have a slightly increased profit margin due to saved costs since they're still charging the same amount. the reason you dont see any changes is called ETHICS, and as modern consumer we neither have the time or care to make businesses responsible for their ethics. Why do you not see a change, because they can!! They Can do whatever they an to you, because boycotting gasoline stations DI NOT WORK, trying to boycott transportation in general, NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN. they do it because they know as consumers YOU WILL DO NOTHING BUT TAKE IT UP THE ASS AND LIKE IT!!! If you give them an inch THEY WILL take a mile Pure and simple |
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There is nthing wrong with my math, you know why, I am not the one adding it up I plug my machine in and I turn it on, it mines and I compare it with my electric bill . so no my math is not wrong YOU ARE!! Which mining equipment are you using? I have a complete mining farm that started a long time ago so we have a lot of different equipment. The electric usage stats are made with 1 THS Dragon Miners actually, I use them becasue they are some of the worst efficient miners in the farm right now. When i do the comparison test of machines, I use a solo account (one that only that machine is mining in so i can see its costs, I calculate the Kwh for that machines and multiply its months use by the monthly rate we pay for electric. (IN ADDITION Keep in mind here in the Philippines the Landlords ADD 1 to 3 Pesos to your KWH rate to have power) so we are paying drastically more than anyone else in the world at the end of the day. We have LONE meters installed for our mining equipment so we know exactly what their use is And it prepares us for solar power here in the next couple months for the Farm. SO maybe you can now understand a person like me who pays 3 times or more the amount for electric that GHASH.IO does to be infuriated with thier lies and BULLSHIT!! As you can see I put a lot of time and effort into my tests and my farm, so when places like Ghash.io and their puppets spout their lips with lies and deceit, I WILL call them out on it , because I have FACTS, BILLS and PAYOUTS to back up my Lips spouting, I don't hide behind company policy written by me, or throw a bunch of calculations and luck in the faces of those who oppose me. Im signing out of this thread.
Thank God I was tired of proving you wrong. My statement was not stupid in any way. and my "secrets" work just fine I have tested and re-tested them. here you can see just a few Blocks where I got a reward and paid 0.00000000 in maintenance fees 2014-12-13 14:19:13 0.00000000 BTC 0.00009464 MAINTENANCE - Shares 0 , Cost: 0.00000000 2014-12-13 14:19:13 0.00003378 BTC 0.00009464 MINING - Block #334090, Reward: 0.00003378 2014-12-13 13:59:57 0.00000000 BTC 0.00006086 MAINTENANCE - Shares 0 , Cost: 0.00000000 2014-12-13 13:59:57 0.00004885 BTC 0.00006086 MINING - Block #334088, Reward: 0.00004885 2014-12-13 13:39:56 0.00000000 BTC 0.00001201 MAINTENANCE - Shares 0 , Cost: 0.00000000 2014-12-13 13:39:56 0.00005002 BTC 0.00001201 MINING - Block #334087, Reward: 0.00005002 PUPPET is just mad I figured it out how to accomplish this, and with all his trying, and intelligence he could not figure out how to accomplish maintenance free mining on GHASH.io. Im just joking puppet don't get your panties in a bunch |
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Does anyone know why Ghash autopayouts are not consistent? I am over the set threshold every day, some payouts are in 12 hours. some (like now) 3 days? wtf? edit: make that 3.4 days Yes, I can make a guess. They keep taking to many BTC out of their hot wallet and placing it in their personal wallets so again the miners get screwed. Like all rich scandelous greedy fucks, they are used to that 79BTC profit a day, spendable BTC, they get from their bullshit calculated over charged scam of a maintenance fee, and they spend it as fast as it comes in. when the whopping 3.3 BTC they actually do payout to the miners per block finally gets into thier hot wallet you'll get your payment. Maintenance is 0.107$/GHS/month for everyone on cex.io. It is a lot but I can believe it is their actual maintenance costs.
NOPE, you clearly work for them as you give the same stupid responses like thier customer service, don't give us a flat rate because they don't charge a flat rate. It doesn't matter what their policy states, what matters is what our accounts reflect !!! Understand actions speak louder than words grasshopper THE TRUTH Ghash.io charges 0.0000000005 BTC per share submitted in a complete block But They pay only 0.00000000025 per share solved. They have no flat rate of 0.10 USD per GHS, they charge you by the share not by the GHS Where did I get these numbers, Simple elementary math rounded up a bit. 2014-12-13 11:22:30 -0.00010634 BTC -0.00007886 MAINTENANCE - Shares 216576 , Cost: -0.00010634 2014-12-13 11:22:30 0.00005109 BTC 0.00002748 MINING - Block #334075, Reward: 0.00005109 216576 shares submitted payout 0.00005109 Fee 0.00010635 Total earned -0.00005526 BTC (NEGATIVE BTC just one block and a very small fee compared to others I have in my transaction list) DENY THESE FACTS PUPPETS!!!!!!!!!! this shit is copied and pasted directly from my CEX account !!! you can not deny facts I colored the account balances so you guys can see this block actually put my positive BTC balance (in green) into the negative (in red) and it kept going and going negative from there. |
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seems you didn't pay a fee and your sending address has unconfirmed tx in it aswell.
it'll probably confirm eventually, but don't hold your breath...
Ahh i did not see the unconfirmed incoming transaction thank you that explains it now. Thats why i am waiting I dont like to send coins if I have unconfirmed incoming transactions I only see one incoming transaction it has 26 confirmations? you see another one that has not been confirmed? https://blockchain.info/tx/26950c5a316fd6be2e18bc47ebc898d2bf2ea154f954d0c2f9fe8d3370cae466even without that transaction the wallet still has over 3 BTC in there so it should be ok I would think. |
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There could be couple reasons, for example too low transaction fee or bad luck I had to edit I think it may have been less than 3 hours, the time on Blockchain is not in the same zone as my wallet so Im not sure, my wallet is showing 3 hours blockchain is showing a little over an hour Oh luck again, everything is about luck in bitcoins, LUCK IS BULLSHIT. It seems the only thing certain in Bitcoin is there will always be theives, liars, scammers and hackers and just unethical people making more BTC than the ones trying to do this ethically and honestly. |
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Anyone else noticing transactions getting processed a lot slower than usual? I have been noticing it getting progressively worse over the past 2 weeks. Is this a problem because the last difficulty retarget actually decreased? what could be causing these long transaction confirmations? I mean seriously 3 hours not 1 confirmation, this is not right. And the source is a trusted source they send me coins all the time.
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If the miner is a USB miner you may use 127.0.0.1 if its external use your computers IP address.
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Here, have a look: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=744303.msg8884930#msg8884930Thats me predicting the net value of this contracts hitting zero this summer. The only reason it didnt go to zero back in september is because cex.io volountarily lowered its fees, twice apparently. They didnt have to do that. If I could predict the value of these contracts was heading to zero, why couldnt you? WHat we have here ladies and gentlemen is a GHASH.IO Puppet (funny it really is his usrname) HAHA There is nthing wrong with my math, you know why, I am not the one adding it up I plug my machine in and I turn it on, it mines and I compare it with my electric bill . so no my math is not wrong YOU ARE!! You based the maintenance fees on a flat rate, and CEX does not have a flat rate on their fees. They charge by ALL shares submitted thatsi NOT a flat rate, it fluctuates between blocks fluctuating is not flat rate. BOTTOM line there is NO OTHER cloud site on the internet who issues LOSSES of BTC on a block solved. NONE NATTA Just your CEX KINGS!!!!!! You can take you GHASH Policy and shove it up your ass bro, you can take you biased opinion and shove it there to, Your company is a BULLSHIT scammers bottom line and people need to be aware of how to fuck you over like you do us !!! You know what I am not going to argues with a GHASH puppet, Just leave the thread! Your info is biased and wrong, if you love them so much you keep them and their fees bro, you'll be broke in less than a year and we can all follow my secrets and see you on the flip side as we loan you BTC to try and make up for all your losses. I am a member of many pools I have lots of cloud accounts I test quite frequently. The truth CEX.IO is a scam, they lie and fabricate fees, they imnproperly meess with hash rates and machines statistics and fil their pockets with 90% of the block reward while paying their members only 10% or less of a block reward, they are a profit house of bullies. If you like them so much you keep them man. |
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To the people complaining about more merchants
If this gets to amazon think of the millions of people who were not aware of bitcoin, would now be aware of it so how is that a bad thing
Looks like cyberpinoy is overthinking this
Looks like Levitron is underthinking this, everytime merchants Dump a big amount of coins the value drops, and right now merchants are dumping every 2 weeks look at the charts Altho you feel millions of people will be "aware" of them it does not mean they will "BUY" them. Why do pople on Amazon need to buy bvitcoins to shop on Amazon? they dont they can use their cash Awareness does not equal buyers. Amazon has bills to pay and they can not do this with Bitcoins, they do not understand bitcons and have no real use for them, by forcing them to use them you are just promoting another dumping merchant and we already have enough of those. You see everytime your merchant dumps a big amount of our coins the value drops. It's a pretty inevitable part of the process man, unless we get a breakthrough explosion into new territories the existing ones will continue to gain more merchant support which will lead to more selling... but also new users too. Either way more merchs mean more buyers will come along at some point. But price dips can't be avoided right now. In the mean time we'll just have to live with the price climing slowly instead of get rich quick over night. Anyway, if ur concerned with more mass adoption then price drops are not a problem. You're obviously more interested in what makes price goes up rather than what is good for bitcoin as a whole Please read my first post and explain what in there says anything other than a lot of crap that will be nothing but GOOD for bitcoin? I dont want a short term increase I want a high stability. I dnt want us to destroy the coin to the point it is gone. The value drops to low NO ONE WIL MINE IT, no miners means no transactions being processed. And no matter how the people want to ignore it, that time is rapidly closing in a lot faster than the chance it will hit 1000 dollars a coin next year we dont need a quick fix we need a permanent solution, we need stability WE NEED A DEMAND!!!!!! |
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Way to go Bitcoin we attracted another dumper, and I had expected so much more from Microsoft too.
So what is it going to take to get the Bitcoin developers to step in and do something more productive then the unbroken protocol. Theres nothing like sitting back and watching your dream die because you cant get past your stubbornness and pride long enough to create a real demand for your coin. Nothing like cutting your nose and all of our noses off to spite your face.
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I keep ALL my cins offline in my own private wallet that is not connected to the internet 24 hours a day so I have no worries about this. You can be sure if the US government ever did seize your Bitcoins. They would be selling them, HOWER they can not just seize them, a law would have to be passed, and they are not considered a currency so they have no legal right to seize them at all. If for a weird reason the US Government would recognize them as "Currency" or "Commodity" get your coins out of there, because at any time the US government has the right to Seize residents currency that could be related to terrorist actions. This includes USD, Gold, Silver, Bronze, platinum, or any other possible form of currency or commodity. |
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Well then explain how anyone can ethically give you a negative reward on cloud mining? Because the fees > mining reward. Fees are function of BTC exchange rate since they are expressed in dollars. Mining reward is function of difficulty and luck. That rewards could approach zero or even go negative was predictable and predicted last spring. That the price per share is still very far from ~zero (where it should be), is not cex.io's fault, the price floats freely and is solely determined by supply and demand, ie, people like you who bid or buy without knowing what they are buying. None of this makes cex.io a scam. Ok lets clear some stuff up, First i live in the Philippines, second we have the MOST EXPENSIVE electricity in the world up to $0.38 USD per KWh and if my mining machines can still make double what i pay for electric please explain your description. If I can mine and my power bill is 3 times that of Ghash.io why such high fees. I NEVER have a block mined where the reward is lower than the amount of electric I pay for. If I pay 20 dollars in electric to run the machine I make 40 dollars in my reward. The problem is this excuse that is EXACTLY like the one Ghash Uses (also why you did not receive the email) Maintenance Fees are the cost it takes to run the machines, it has nothing to do with the value of BTC on the exchange because they own the exchange that has both USD and EUR, so they have all 3 BTC USD and EUR in thier accounts!! What it has to do with is electric and if they even take the time to actually maintain their machines like I do, Blow the dust out once a week, clean them correctly, check and replace any fans that need replacing. maintenance fees have NOTHING to do with BTC PERIOD!!!! The bottom line here Ghash.io wants their cake and eat it to, they FUCK all the miners and members who are with them, and have users like you who swallow their lies with a scoop of sugar and try and convince others its ok. IT IS NOT they are stealing, lieing, they are swindling. Maintenance fees should be a flat rate not based upon shares submitted, the machines consume the EXACT SAME amount of energy no matter if they put in 1 billion shares or 1000 shares per block and that Jack is the fact. their system is a scam that helps them fill their pockets with 79 BTC in profits from maintenance fees every single day |
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