I read something in the DD chat on Saturday night that the well known Erik Voorhees might be involved in DaDice, now may I ask, why would someone like Erik get involved with a dice site?
Where do you get this from? a mod or from the admin themselves? If this is true than it is great isnt it? Erik voorhees is the owner of Satoshi Dice before it was sold to the new management. So it is common that Erik got involved with another dice sites some references from stunna's post From my understanding & conversation with insiders, SD has been sold/shifted ownership more than one time. Is your group the one that purchased the site directly from Erik Voorhees? I only ask this due to the above posts using that assumption as a basis of trust. Looking forward to some clarification.
it was an ordinary user who said that, I did not know that Erik was previously involved in dice sites? This is extremely interesting.. Than that info couldnt be trusted since the ordinary user isnt an insider of dadice, unless there is an evidence to this which I suppose there is none. Yes Erik Voorhees own satoshiDice before and sold it already and now satoshiDice is under their new management. I suppose he is the CEO of shapeshift too reading from fox's post above |
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I read something in the DD chat on Saturday night that the well known Erik Voorhees might be involved in DaDice, now may I ask, why would someone like Erik get involved with a dice site?
Where do you get this from? a mod or from the admin themselves? If this is true than it is great isnt it? Erik voorhees is the owner of Satoshi Dice before it was sold to the new management. So it is common that Erik got involved with another dice sites some references from stunna's post From my understanding & conversation with insiders, SD has been sold/shifted ownership more than one time. Is your group the one that purchased the site directly from Erik Voorhees? I only ask this due to the above posts using that assumption as a basis of trust. Looking forward to some clarification.
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dude i played on multiple sites i have lost and won also i am not complaining on losing or winning. They just fucking add a useless feature and then they say provable fair. why they don't say it is a fair game, can you explain me?
It seems like you dont understand what a provably fair is. Provably fair is a mechanism that prevent the site from cheating you, if a site attempted to cheat or manipulate the roll, player can notice it by verifying the rolls. In shorts words, site that has provably is actually fair because their cheating would have been known if they try it Pro tip : search up google before bashing up here http://provablyfair.org/ |
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This is a tiring process you loose and go and recover bet. You can go for autobet if you dont want to use the recover bet option so I dont think thats an issue Once you recover next bet you'll loose Not really, I have stated above that there is a chance for you to recover your bet, it is not like you will always win the roll and be able to recover your bet Also i don't think so this is fair. It is fair, it has the provably fair and you can check it yourself regarding this OP has created this system so obviously he wants to gain Of course, who would want to create a gambling sites if there is nothing to gain? no one is giving free money to the others no one is doing social work here. Yes no one besides OP, you might want to add this as a suggestion to him So plz don't praise anyone saying this site has negative house edge whatever at the end you'll loose.
No one is praising it, Im just stating that the odds to win is in the favor for players, which means you got a bigger chance to win but it is not likely that you will always win and yes at the end you will lose , gambling isnt getting rich in a short moment, might takes some times to play and luck  |
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I used to patrol this sub for scams when I had the time. This boards is not for it and you might find more in Scam AccusationA well engineered scam would pose exactly like a normal entity so as not to attract attention - it's a sad fact. True of this, and you can apply this analogic to all sites that you think "legit" it will stays the same if you keep on looking from the negative sides As I keep reiterating, most of this is just amusing discussion for the sake of the argument Argument and discussion are fine as long as you can keep it clean from any bashing to the sites, which you have not really done so yeah its fine and we are here to provide some argument as well regarding your opinion. Nothing wrong with it,freedom of speech  I don't necessarily believe it is true in the case of dadice.
Good thing, I dont believe it myself either, but I do know trust isnt earned over night, there is still a rocky way to go for dadice before proving themselves to be legit |
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Maybe recover bet is useless they never let you recover. I tried 7 times as of now all loss
not really useless because with the recover loss feature, the site is on negative house edge which means it is in favor for the players. I have explained this about the chances to recover loss just a page back from here 10 % recover loss if you roll under 50 20 % recover loss if you roll under 40 30 % recover loss if you roll under 30 40 % recover loss if you roll under 20 50 % recover loss if you roll under 10 With such chance you have a 50 % chance atleast to recover 10 % of your bet They don't allow withdraw before 3 confirmations, now why is that? Don't tell this is to avoid fraud since there are other legit sites they are also safe.
Since they are still a new sites, it could be that the 3 confirmations is to avoid fraud things from happening, besides , 3 confirmations isnt much as it is most likely 30~ minutes or so. |
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Do check on my above post regarding their statement on this investment-trust issue. What I can say is that trust needs some time, by now Dadice has paid alot for the sig campaign advertisement along with the social media advertisement and also some bounty for the roll event. This is sure an indication that they are here to stay , do some business and aim for the top dice sites, but still, do use some extra precautions because any sites can go MIA in a night I agree to an extent regarding their own time investment and various social campaigns it is an indicator that they do want users and are here for the long term. However, to play the devil's advocate, it's also exactly the thing you'd do if you wanted to build up both investors and users so you could scam the most BTC possible. Not saying that's what's going to happen - but I would take that observation with a grain of salt. You are right, but if you use this analogic for all gambling sites that accept investment than it could be well applied to all of those sites isnt it? Point is every view got its own negativity, regarding that people can freely choose which to invest in , just use some extra precautions when "investing" on things |
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It is not a guarantee - but I have more reason to trust doog than I do dadice by a huge margin. Nothing in life is guaranteed, but I trust doog enough to the point where I'm happy to invest and call it a day if I turn out to be wrong. All of it is just a part of due diligence and doing some research before you take on any risk - to ensure that you minimise your risk.
yes there is no guarantee about this and Dadice is still new on this gambling business unlike JD that has been here for some years. Do check on my above post regarding their statement on this investment-trust issue. What I can say is that trust needs some time, by now Dadice has paid alot for the sig campaign advertisement along with the social media advertisement and also some bounty for the roll event. This is sure an indication that they are here to stay , do some business and aim for the top dice sites, but still, do use some extra precautions because any sites can go MIA in a night |
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I'd be interested in potentially investing in this site, however I have a couple of questions that I would like answered:
1) Is there any statistics/information I can find which shows the sum of daily BTC bets and the current amount earned by investors?
2) Is there any way you can allay concerns regarding the possibility that you disappear overnight with funds?
1st one will be live on Monday as of the second one, dadice has stated that there is no guarantee that they will disappear in a night and taking along all of the investor's funds with them. The same goes for the other sites as well. By stating this , people should due their own research before investing further on it EDIT : i found their previous statement and IMO this is the fact, the same goes for every bitcoin related sites OFFICIAL MESSAGE FROM THE OWNER OF DADICE IN SKYPE:
"NOTHING CAN STOP DADICE FROM RUNNING AWAY WITH INVESTOR'S FUNDS"
Well, you have asked me and I gave you a honest answer Same is true for almost any other bitcoin related site. |
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Hi,
I am buying Negative Trust Feedback (bitcointalk) ON MYSELF, THIS PROFILE!
I am not targeting any other member of this forum, this is not a joke nor a stunt...I am simply doing this because I can't be bothered doing bad deeds, so I thought i would just buy the neg trust outright lol...
Paying 0.01BTC per DEFAULT TRUST saying something nasty on my profile. Cannot relate to anything that i've done on this account, just something either out of pure hatred, OR if you're kind enough maybe leave something friendly (but still in the form on negative trust lol)
Only ONE trust rating per default trust member
Thank you, come again!
Hillarious simply people will "buy some trust" but this is the exact oppoiste, are you trying to be the account with the highest negative trust score? I doubt that those of default trust will do it for merely 2$ as they will give it to you for free if you really conducted negative activity (which you have done ) on this forum But you are not asking it for something that you have done, so if they do this than thats means a trust abuse, which will serves later as a proof for some hillarious thread " XXX abusing trust " Exactly lol... What are mods going to do, give me negative trust for buying negative trust?? Maybe, it would've been wiser making a thread buying negative trust towards another member, so I could have gained negative trust for doing it... So many approaches and paths one could take... But, who knows, maybe you'll throw that 0.01BTC in a lottery and come out a millionaire? as far as I know, "buying trust" is forbidden here and might get you a negative trust ( in this case buying negative trust and get the negative trust), although that it is not mentioned that it is a positive trust but the words "buying trust" could also meant as negative trust (which is unlikely and you are the first ) and might get this thread to be moved to trashcans |
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Hi,
I am buying Negative Trust Feedback (bitcointalk) ON MYSELF, THIS PROFILE!
I am not targeting any other member of this forum, this is not a joke nor a stunt...I am simply doing this because I can't be bothered doing bad deeds, so I thought i would just buy the neg trust outright lol...
Paying 0.01BTC per DEFAULT TRUST saying something nasty on my profile. Cannot relate to anything that i've done on this account, just something either out of pure hatred, OR if you're kind enough maybe leave something friendly (but still in the form on negative trust lol)
Only ONE trust rating per default trust member
Thank you, come again!
Hillarious simply people will "buy some trust" but this is the exact oppoiste, are you trying to be the account with the highest negative trust score? I doubt that those of default trust will do it for merely 2$ as they will give it to you for free if you really conducted negative activity (which you have done ) on this forum But you are not asking it for something that you have done, so if they do this than thats means a trust abuse, which will serves later as a proof for some hillarious thread " XXX abusing trust " |
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A casino with a positive house edge (for example: +1%) is a winning casino, because in the long run, it is expected to win money.
This website, with a -7.89% house edge is a loosing casino because players are expected to win money.
No matter how old the casino is...
If OP is so confidence that he made this casino to be in minus house edge than it probably means that he is sure that it will gain some profit. Many new dice sites cant stand out the competition because the sites offer nothing innovative but rather the same copy feature of the old dice sites If you do some counting based on the house edge and the wagered status, the status is not in the favor of the owner or investor but to the players but still we wont know the result of the investment since it is still new as the site could make some profit in the run. Maybe, OP confident every players who come here can't control themselves from gambling Or he did something so he always get profit Also, i'm still not sure if this site is provably fair the site is provably fair and you can check them yourself , there is a button to check on this, simply click on the verification tab and put in your seed as well as the server seed to run the provably fair. It is better if there is a 3rd party verification that will check on this automatically since not everyone know how to do this themselves. OP could set a bounty for it |
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I will try helping OP and helping myself and scammer too Note to Scammer : give these 4 accounts to me : Crypto1990 , chijio , Dznuts85 and TheGrapist and i will return 0.25 BTC to OP , so he won't loose much . These account are useless to you anyway and now returning the btc won't get your neg removed either since you pulled a scam. So sell them to me for 0.25 (the btc will go to OP) ~Regards Sky I doubt he will take this offer, currently dznuts85, TheGrapist are on bitmixer sig campaign perhaps bitmixer still pays for the negative trust user and the chijio account hasnt been tagged with red trust and still laying on bit-x campaign . If he would return the amount to OP than he would have done so before all his account and alt are being tagged with red trust and his silence as well as the attempt to lie here are already a proof that he had no intention of returning any bit to OP |
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Any cliffs on why you assume its a scam?
Many times, they will offer only one side of a bet. They also offer odds that aren't "real". They are completely inflated. Take for example the tennis match above where they offered -1667 on the favorite and +250 on the underdog. Bet365 was offering +300 / -475 on the same match. Directbet uses the same odds provider as Bet365. But, they are able to adjust the odds based on the amount of money they have on each bet in order to ensure a profit. As mentioned above, many times they will even stop offering one side of a match and pigeon hole bettors into betting on the side that is advantageous for DirectBet. No, us bettors don't have to take that selection, but a lot of people do...it's the gambler's nature. DirectBet is an unlicensed shop, which is why they can get away with this. ? Players got their own choice and this silly one sided odds is only offered through live betting . A scam sites imo is when they dont process your payout and settled your winning bets as lose ( few of this things happened in betvip ). Apart from this silly odds, Directbet still stands on top in term of supports and the payout compared to the other sportsbook sites |
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A casino with a positive house edge (for example: +1%) is a winning casino, because in the long run, it is expected to win money.
This website, with a -7.89% house edge is a loosing casino because players are expected to win money.
No matter how old the casino is...
If OP is so confidence that he made this casino to be in minus house edge than it probably means that he is sure that it will gain some profit. Many new dice sites cant stand out the competition because the sites offer nothing innovative but rather the same copy feature of the old dice sites If you do some counting based on the house edge and the wagered status, the status is not in the favor of the owner or investor but to the players but still we wont know the result of the investment since it is still new as the site could make some profit in the run. EDIT : sites on profit for now |
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We have thought about doing this but it can easily be abused by players that use proxies to create multiple accounts.
At this time we will not be implementing a "sign up" bonus.
Thanks.
You can actually counter this by making special rules on it like the requirement of rake before it can be withdraw, although this can be abused as well, but you as the admin of the site can noticed some weird activities while user are playing on the ring games, so the chance to highly abuse this is low. |
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Are they linked with this Satoshslots, Satoshcircle and SatoshiDice? (I don't honestly think so, but the names kind of matches.. ) Apparently they are not linked as satoshimines has been operating in shadows and have no correlation with the other sites, but the other 3 sites that you mentioned are related Who is satoshimine's representative here on the forum? Maybe if you contact him the reason will be revealed I guess.
None here as they are operating in the shadows for some time, the only way to contact the support is through the support button on the site and Give it 24 hours before you start to panic & make accusations though.
It is normal for people to be panic in a time like this exactly if they got their funds on a site which cant be access |
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Hi ,
I want to find a reputable site and reliably to football betting. I see a lot of sites here. But really, I wonder what is the best site now ? Reputable and
reliable. What site has the best odds for players ? I am betting at BetVIP but its odds is too bad and withdraw is not good too. It takes 24h to receive it.
In general, I don't feel comfortable playing there. I want to find a better betting site.
Please show me !
Thanks a lot !
If you are looking for those that doesnt have any issue with the bet settlement and also withdrawal then Directbet is your top choice since the site doesnt need an account to bet with, multiple choice covered up for football betting from top to lower league but the odds isnt really good, decent I would say, but still better than betvip DirectBet ? It's better than BetVIP ? Oh, that's good for me. But are there any problem about withdraw ? instant or how long does it takes ? And thanks for your help ! instantly after your bet is atleast 1 confirmation and the game has been settled. Mostly the bet will be settle minutes after the game but if your bet are taking much longer time to settle than you can PM DirectBet for some support. Yet have I mentioned, they got the best supports over the other sportsbook site |
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Hi ,
I want to find a reputable site and reliably to football betting. I see a lot of sites here. But really, I wonder what is the best site now ? Reputable and
reliable. What site has the best odds for players ? I am betting at BetVIP but its odds is too bad and withdraw is not good too. It takes 24h to receive it.
In general, I don't feel comfortable playing there. I want to find a better betting site.
Please show me !
Thanks a lot !
If you are looking for those that doesnt have any issue with the bet settlement and also withdrawal then Directbet is your top choice since the site doesnt need an account to bet with, multiple choice covered up for football betting from top to lower league but the odds isnt really good, decent I would say, but still better than betvip |
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This campaigns definitely needs more attention, it's quite good.
How many members are you going to accept in total?
it is very well written in the OP about this incase you havent noticed it yet - Legendary/Hero: 0.09 BTC - 10 Available spots
- Senior: 0.07 BTC - 10 Available spots
- Full: 0.05 BTC - 10 Available spots
with the google doc here you can actually see that there is Legendary/Hero: - 4 Available spots left 3 availabe spots if your name on the spreadsheet but I dont see it yet Senior: - 4 Available spots leftFull: - 7 Available spots leftEDIT : dont see triggerx or mayuyu either on the spreadsheet[/list] |
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