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7421  Local / Deutsch (German) / Re: Bitcoin & die Steuer - FAQ on: April 24, 2019, 09:22:48 PM
Neuer Stoff für Diskussion Smiley

Mein Steuerberater hat mir erklärt, dass Bounties und Airdrops nicht beim Erhalt versteuert werden müssen sondern erst beim Verkauf.

Somit wurden die bereits verkauften Bounties in der Erklärung steuerlich geltend gemacht und die nicht verkauften nur aufgeführt als Info, was aber laut des Steuerberaters nicht nötig gewesen wäre, da noch nicht verkauft. Das Finanzamt hatte dazu keine Einwände. Der Bescheid kam kürzlich.
Hey, danke für deinen Erfahrungsbericht, dass ein weiterer Steuerberater das so sieht und auch danke für den Erfahrungsbericht, dass dein Finanzamt diese Sichtweise bestätigt hat. Ich sehe es auch so, dass Altcoin Bounties und Airdrops erst bei Verkauf mit dem dann erzielten Preis versteuert werden um diesen zweifelsfrei feststellen zu können, mehr dazu habe ich hier geschrieben (alle Angaben wie immer ohne Gewähr):

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1976285.msg47022403#msg47022403
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1976285.msg47878645#msg47878645
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2360806.msg50018971#msg50018971
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1976285.msg50020929#msg50020929

Und Erfahrungsberichten von anderen:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1976285.msg46701749#msg46701749

Letztendlich gibt es da mehrere Varianten und wenn das Finanzamt die jeweilige Situation auch so sieht und sie bestätigt, passt das ja perfekt.



Jungs der Staat ist Kriminell.
Wenn du hinter Gittern bist, interessiert das aber keinen Wink
7422  Local / Altcoins (Deutsch) / Re: Übersetzungs-Spam gefunden? Hier könnt ihr ihn berichten on: April 22, 2019, 09:42:20 PM
Thema: BITTORRENT-EXCHANGE.COM - Sell wall bis 200 BTC, Marge, Verschuldungsgrad 25x!
Autor: Goktilar
Auffälligkeiten: 1x Querbeet durchs Forum: http://archive.is/MQ3YY

Russisch, Arabisch, Kroatisch, Deutsch, Griechisch, Indisch, Hebräisch, Italienisch, Japanisch u.v.m.

Ich bin kein offizieller Vertreter.
Das heißt dann, dass er doch einer ist, oder?

Archiv: http://archive.is/gdPy7
7423  Local / Anfänger und Hilfe / Re: Wie erkennt man SegWit Adressen? on: April 22, 2019, 09:32:13 PM
Hatte auch schon geplant über das Thema einen Thread zu eröffnen.
Vor allem da bei der Chipmixer- Anmeldung so häufig gefragt wurde ob Adressen die mit einer 3 beginnen automatisch Segwit- Adressen sind.
Warst schneller, Merit gibts natürlich trotzdem  Wink
Sorryyy, das Thema hatte ich schon etwa länger geplant und als es letzt durch die erneute Erwähnung bei ChipMixer wieder aktuell wurde, hatte ich es schnell fertig gemacht. Den Teil, wie man P2SH-Segwit zu Multisig unterscheidet, hatte ich schon vorbereitet gehabt, den Rest habe ich dann noch ergänzt.
So, dass man halt einen groben Überblick hat und nicht den Fehler begeht, die Varianten zu vertauschen.  Smiley
7424  Local / Altcoins (Deutsch) / Re: welche bountys signaturen lohnen sich am meisten??? on: April 22, 2019, 09:24:25 PM
@1miau du bist halt faul. Ich habe es ohnehin gemacht  Grin
Nein, ich bin nicht faul, ich bin nur beschäftigt. Zudem hatte ich sogar einen Plagiarizer entdeckt: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1926895.msg50713433#msg50713433

Meiner Meinung nach sollte das bei jeder Signatur Kampagne geben, wenn es keine obere Grenze gibt verleitet das rein nur zum Spam. Hoffentlich wird da eine Regel eingeführt mit max. Posts oder es wird zukünftig allgemein härter durch gegriffen...
Ja, das kommt denke ich hauptsächlich daher, weil sie keinen professionellen Manager eingesetzt haben. Könnte natürlich auch die Strategie gewesen sein, absichtlich Spam zu produzieren, damit diese Scam Exchange hier in die Schlagzeilen kommt...
7425  Other / Meta / Re: Yobit spam on the forum on: April 22, 2019, 08:01:18 PM
So it's still possible to get them 14 days banned right now if I report a post and it will be marked as good post? I thought it's only for good reported comments before the signature got removed?

Not sure, but I reported a bunch of the posts hoping that this is the case.
Ok, I will give it a try. 
And their signature encourages people now to look at the post quality (and report if it's spam)  Tongue

Unfortunately BPIP doesn't show if someone is temporarily banned...
Or special user here: https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=TillKoeln
7426  Other / Meta / Re: [Experiment] Do shitposters care if someone replies to their posts? on: April 22, 2019, 07:43:51 PM
In my experience, most threads that are titled with a question, especially those that can be answered "yes or no" will not have a lot of meaningful discussion. Looking at the other threads you (I assume 0xmiau is you) posted in, I am not especially surprised you didn't receive a response.  
I've chosen the replies where I can ask a good question that someone would reply (normally) and where it's not likely that while I'm typing another user submits a new comment. 0xmiau is me, I didn't want to confuse them if I make comments with 1miau there.

I had always assumed most signature spammers have at least a very basic understanding of bitcoin, but this is perhaps not true (anymore). Ever since I saw this thread, I have suspected some of the bounty hunter spammers are being paid by a third party, and the same forum account may not even be used by the same spammer from day to day. If someone does not even have a basic understanding of bitcoin/crypto currencies, they are not going to be able to engage in a conversation with you -- if they try they will look (more) stupid.
That's awesome, Nobel Prize for shitposting.  Cheesy



Again looking at these users post history you can easy identify those shitposters (mainly posting because they are paid to) even though their post have some little sense to it, they just move around the forum replying in any board they find discussion they can contribute to but the average none shitposters post history are always similar in regards to boards and sometimes threads he/she posts in.


how does what they chose to post on an indication of being a "shitposter"? wouldnt it be more of the content of what they post? and isnt that what we are doing? moving the forum finding something we feel we can contribute to? and im a little confused are we speaking of the author being a shitposter or the commenter?

(sorry for the so many questions just trying to contribute  Cheesy)
I think CryptopreneurBrainboss means that they are searching threads where they can submit their low-quality posts without any effort, there are several topics like "will BTC die?", "when will the bear market end?", "when should I buy BTC?", "is gambling risky?" or similar.



Stake campaign has a really silly rule in that worsens this issue:

3 posts per thread maximum (you can of course do more but they won't count towards the campaign)
Yeah, that's when the campaign is managed by the project itself and they didn't bother to hire a professional manager.  Cheesy



Surprised you got one!
I was also surprised and thought of giving him a Merit  Cheesy


And you expect to have a meaningful conversion or even a reply each time you post something? Get real!
Of course not, in most cases that's not possible and I'm only going to respond if there is really need to do it. Same like if I start a new topic and ask for opinions, it's impossible to reply to all of them.

But, if you want to get replies, I'll give you a hint Tongue
Go to the alt section and look for topics that have very low views/post ratio, the bumping bots there would love some fresh blood
Yes maybe I will ask them "when moon?". xD
There are indeed some spammer services offering "real" questions (most likely because the "great project" spam posts are deleted immediately.)
http://archive.is/Herr1

Quote
BitcoinTalk Bump

$4.50

(max: 8/day)

Buy as many bitcointalk.org comments (bumps) as you wish, and provide us with the link to the ANN thread and the amount that we should do per day. No need to send the texts as well, but if you wish you can do that. A big advantage of these is that we usually ask questions. So if you’re answering them, each bump will actually transform into two bumps.

Please don’t buy less than 15 BitcoinTalk bumps. We waste a lot of time informing ourselves of the projects in order to formulate good texts.
7427  Other / Meta / Re: Yobit spam on the forum on: April 22, 2019, 07:13:18 PM
129 users who were wearing a yobit signature and had at least 1 good report against them in the last 14 days are banned for 14 days. All yobit signatures are wiped. Signatures containing "yobit.net" are banned for 60 days.

I think its time to be a Yobit-Hunter Cheesy
(Gotta charged my phone first, will be back after a few hours Tongue)
So it's still possible to get them 14 days banned right now if I report a post and it will be marked as good post? I thought it's only for good reported comments before the signature got removed?
7428  Local / Altcoins (Deutsch) / Re: Diskussion Airdrops on: April 22, 2019, 07:00:05 PM
Hier mal etwa unerwartet erfreuliches:

Es gibt doch noch Projekte, denen der Aufbau einer Community wichtig ist und denen es nicht bloß darum geht, den Leuten das Geld abzunehmen und davon Lambos zu kaufen und Grillpartys zu veranstalten. Da dort die eingesammelte Menge Geld im public sale sehr wenig war und im Vergleich dazu im private sale sehr viel, hat sich das Team von Aerum dazu entschieden, den Kunden die investierten Kryptowährungen zurückzusenden, während diese ihre erhaltenen XRM (Aerum-Token) behalten dürfen. Finde ich eine nette Geste zwischen all den Scams und Regeländerungen bei Bounties um so viele Teilnehmer wie möglich die Belohnungen zu kürzen.

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To protect our company from legal risks related to ICO/ITO fundraising activity and given the fact the absolute majority of raised capital comes from corporate investors and not from public, we have decided to cancel our ITO and refund all public investors. It means we will send back the ether they contributed to their respective accounts in next 14 days. As we do that we will leave them with XRM tokens as gratitude, free of charge. We will issue a technical bulletin with regards how to proceed for every method of contribution that was available.
https://aerum.com/blog/aerum-the-road-ahead/


Das klingt für mich eher nach einer rechtlichen Sache. Vielleicht hat die SEC oder ein Anwalt Aerum darauf hingewiesen....gab doch in der Vergangenheit schon einige Fälle, wo die Projekte eine Strafe an die SEC zahlen mussten und teilweise die durch das ICO erhaltenen Coins zurückgeben mussten.
Sorry für die späte Antwort.

Ja kann sein, wobei ich rechtliche Gründe eher nicht vermute, die Teilnehmer durften die Token ja behalten. Laut ICObench ist Aerum auf den Seychellen registriert, die SEC ist damit nicht involviert (zumal Investoren aus den USA nicht zugelassen waren).

...
Bei 200.000.000 Token für den Airdrop wären es ca. 20.000.000 Dollar den der Airdrop Wert ist. Natürlich stockt jetzt der Airdrop und steht bei angeblich 198.000.000 Millionen vergebenen Token fest. Das schon etwa 2-3 Wochen. Nix tut sich so recht. In Telegram schreiben sie das viele ihre Task nicht erfüllt haben und daher die 198 anstehen.
Aber zu meiner eigentlichen Frage: Haltet ihr es für möglich das dieser Airdrop jemals ausgezahlt wird ? Ich kann mir so etwas nicht vorstellen.
Ein wenig Zweifelhaft ist dieser Airdrop schon....oder sehe ich es falsch ?
Ich kenne diesen Airdrop zwar nicht aber dass jemand einen 20 Millionen $ Airdrop macht, während die Exchange 34 Millionen $ "Wert" ist, halte ich für fraglich. Vielleicht nur ein Angebot zum Kundenfang, damit sich diese auf der Exchange registrieren. Aber wie gesagt, ich weiß über den Airdrop nichts, kommt mir nur sehr seltsam vor.

7429  Local / Altcoins (Deutsch) / Re: welche bountys signaturen lohnen sich am meisten??? on: April 22, 2019, 06:52:55 PM
Das geschieht YoShit absolut recht, wer so dreist zu seinen Signatur-Teilnehmern ist und sie regelrecht scammt, der bekommt verdientermaßen die Möglichkeit versagt, das weiter zu praktizieren. Und wenn layer1gfx eine Scam Anschuldigung aufmachen sollte, würde ich mich gerne an einem kritischen Beitrag zu YoShit beteiligen.
Kann mir gut vorstellen, dass sie diese Masche auch bei anderen Teilnehmern probieren, nach phishing-mails sieht das jedenfalls nicht aus, auch wenn ich den genauen Ablauf nicht kenne, wie die Kommunikation mit diesem Kasper zustande gekommen ist.

Edit: Mir ist gerade aufgefallen, dass die yoshit Signatur mit
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Am I spamming? Report me!
ausgetauscht wurde.  Cheesy
Wohlverdient  Cheesy


129 users who were wearing a yobit signature and had at least 1 good report against them in the last 14 days are banned for 14 days. All yobit signatures are wiped. Signatures containing "yobit.net" are banned for 60 days.

Some people were talking about neg-trusting spammers for spamming. This is not appropriate; report the posts, and if that doesn't seem to be working well, come to Meta with specific examples and suggestions.
Schade, hätte ich das vorher gewusst, dann hätte ich Posts von YoShit spammern massiv reportet...
7430  Other / Meta / Re: The problem begins and ends with YOU. on: April 22, 2019, 03:01:51 AM
Well, it's also late here, so I'll keep it short.

Rank holds too much importance

...Buying an account is practically the only way to get anywhere now a days, and yes I get again that a lot of these "thresholds" are put in place to prevent scamming and such, but it's not really helping...
That's not true at all. Ok, maybe if you want to accumulate dozens of accounts to start shitposting or selling them to make money but if someone is at least a little bit interested in contributions to the forum, ranking up will be no problem at all. You don't even have to know much about crypto, learning step by step is always the way to go. We have a few new users in the German section and there are no problems for them, no harassing by high ranked members and they also receive some Merits if their content is somewhat useful. There is still a lack of Merit sometimes, yes I don't deny that, but it's not that bad how you are describing it.

I'm around here for a year now and can tell you that everyone has the possibility to rank up if he puts a little bit effort into it. My online time is 16 days and that's not much in my opinion. If I had more time I would be online more often but that's how it is. Even as hobby participant it's possible to rank up, so don't tell me the only solution is to engage in account sales and buy an high-ranked account to cheat everyone willing to contribute here and rank up the legit way.  Roll Eyes
And then, it's no crime to wear a paid signature, like your accusation sounds like. The problem are poorly managed signature campaigns, the good ones don't make any problems. And ironically, another problem are the account hackers / sellers offering accounts for spammers.

Your various buzzwords we know from previous discussions like "Misuse of Trust", "Ranking up is impossible", "Generalizing that all Signature campaigns are a problem" or "Hate towards Newcomers" let me think that you are just continuing what has already been discussed.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that there are no problems but that will just be another discussion like so many before.


Rank holds too much importance

...Buying an account is practically the only way to get anywhere now a days, and yes I get again that a lot of these "thresholds" are put in place to prevent scamming and such, but it's not really helping...
Where did you get it before? Not interested to post from your main account?

PS:
And while seeing your long reply to TryNinja, I think I know already that will end up unbeneficially. I'm always open to good suggestions but that won't lead to anything...
When red trust?
7431  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: {Facts} Disadvantage of promoting signature campaigns that encourages spamming. on: April 22, 2019, 01:55:43 AM
Very good points, I hope the participants in spammy campaigns will read your post (but I doubt it).

The biggest problem of such signature campaigns is that people are forced to make a high number of posts per week / per day to get the amounts in BTC compared to campaigns where the posts per week are limited to 40 - 60 posts per week. And whenever someone is forced to make comments that he won't make normally, the outcome is not useful at all. If they are forced to make their number of posts per day they'll make replies about things they are possibly not experienced in. The post quality will go down drastically and the posts won't help anyone, just adding another post to the topic. Those replies are not only not helpful, they are ruining the discussion and causing spam-megathreads.
Same like if someone tries to participate in a gambling signature campaign and as requirement they need to make posts in Gambling but they normally don't comment there. The replies won't be very useful.

I don't want to generalize everyone in the YoBit signature campaign as a spammer, there are also a few good contributors and even the best posters on the forum can make more than 100 posts per week without producing useless spam as a result. But the overall impression is like CryptopreneurBrainboss explained very well in his OP, it won't work for most members because they try to earn as much as possible.

In addition, such campaigns tend to ruin the posting history. A good posting history is always mixed with longer or shorter posts. No need to write always essays if you can say your content only in a few words. But for my experience the worst posters are those where the post lenght is always the same (a few lines) and that's a pattern that most spam posters have in common.
7432  Other / Meta / Re: [Experiment] Do shitposters care if someone replies to their posts? on: April 22, 2019, 12:50:29 AM
I can assure you that the "shitposters" very much care if someone replies to one of their posts. The reason they care is because if you reply to their posts, they can respond to what you said for another easy/quick post.
Then, I would have gotten much more replies.

I think there may be a couple of reasons you received so few replies:
1 - you posted in fairly large threads in which it is difficult to even a "normal" person to find a response to what you say. These "shitposters" want to spend as little time writing each post as possible, and going back multiple pages to look for a response takes time. I suspect you would get different results if you replied to these users in a smaller thread.
Maybe, but I had the impression that also smaller threads start to get more pages very soon if you can't get a first page reply.

2 - There is a 20 post per day limit as to how many posts each account will be paid for. I don't think many in this campaign will make much more than 20 per day, or even look at the forum from that account once they make 20 posts that day. If you wait a day or two, you may see a couple more responses
My experiment took place way before the YoShit Signature Campaign (April 11 + April 12) and is not related to it. It migh be a strange coincidence that YoBit starts their spam campaign just after I started to do the experiment.
And I've waited 10 days for their replies if you look at the date of my posts in the OP...
7433  Other / Meta / Re: [Experiment] Do shitposters care if someone replies to their posts? on: April 22, 2019, 12:20:12 AM
Or do you really think 95% of the Bitcoin Discussion frequenters are actually having a discussion, reading and replying to each other?
As "excuse" if someone doesn't reply sometimes is that the number of people leaving comments in a thread just kills the discussion. In the German section we have also some good discussion threads and an hour later there are 30 new replies. If I start answering all the people who have quoted me that is sometimes a bit confusing for the discussion so I think in some cases people tend to refrain answering if it's not necessary.

Re: Top 5 safest Bitcoin and Altcoin wallet
1. Blockchain
    Blockchain is the technology behind Bitcoin's turnaround itself, so its superiority as a provider of Bitcoin wallet is definitely beyond doubt. You can even see all transactions from all accounts, whether it's Bitcoin acceptance or delivery.
-snip-
P.S: He's talking about blockchain.info (now dot com) wallet.
Cheesy Cheesy
That's a good one.  Cheesy
And Fiat has invented our money system. xD



Honestly, I'm starting to think these "experiments" on shitposters are just shitposts themselves. You aren't helping the problem lmao, they won't stop shitposting so that makes your post pointless. I've seen at least 50 of these posts today about things like yobit and people posting crap, just stop.
Yes, we can't help, the forum is lost if the shitposters go for their hunt... xD
If you have effective ideas to help and prevent shitposts while the traffic on Bitcointalk stays high I would appreciate it if you share it.



It isn't just shitposters who don't reply, either.  Good posters who just make a lot of posts may not return to a thread that someone asked them a question in.  And I guarantee you I've missed some questions that members have asked me in some threads.  It just happens when there are so many threads and posts like there are on this forum.
In my opinion, the problem is a missing notification if we are quoted. I'm sure the people interested in a good discussion will reply if they get a notification that someone quoted them and asked an important question, it's not the lack of interest to reply.
Of course, that won't solve the shitposter problem - they won't reply even if they get notifications all the time. In addition, they are quoted mostly by other shitposters.
I know about the tool from Piggy but I would prefer in-forum solutions so I keep checking all the threads myself (still possible to miss questions)

I'm all for science and experimentation, but this was a teaspoon of weak sauce, OP.  No offense, I know you meant well.
I guess I've just chosen the worst point of time to post it.  Cheesy
I didn't know that there will be the big YoBit issues when I had the idea and started to prepare the topic around 2 weeks ago. But on the other hand it's obvious that we have to be prepared much better if the bull market starts. There are still so many accounts waiting to get back to business (maybe bought accounts) and they are not interested in making quality posts :/
7434  Local / Anfänger und Hilfe / Re: Bitfinex on: April 21, 2019, 11:31:18 PM
Warum freust du dich denn da wenn die Exchanges überlastet sind?  Cheesy

Weil wir dann wieder an dem Punkt angekommen sind, wo wir uns doch eingentlich alle wünschen zu sein Smiley
Achsoo, ja das macht Sinn. Und ich würde mich darauf auch sehr freuen.  Wink

Ich würde gerne mal Zahlen von den Neueinstellungen der Exchanges während des letzten Hypes sehen. Würde mich nicht wundern, wenn von denen nach 1 Jahr Bärenmarkt rund 80% wieder abgebaut wurden.
Nehme ich mal an. Um Kosten zu sparen, werden die das bestimmt gemacht haben. Kann mir zumindest nicht vorstellen, dass sie viel mehr Mitarbeiter dort herumsitzen haben als nötig. Was dann interessant wird, wäre zu wissen, ob sie bessere Möglichkeiten finden, schnell neue Mitarbeiter einzustellen. Vielleicht haben sie auch einige Mitarbeiter in Abruf, die bei verstärktem Bedarf schnell eingestellt werden könnten.
7435  Other / Meta / [Experiment] Do shitposters care if someone replies to their posts? on: April 21, 2019, 10:28:01 PM
It's well known that the shitposters are suspected to give a shit whether anyone will reply to their posts in a spam megathread or not so I had the idea to make an experiment: Asking them questions and get a proof how serious the problem is or if our suspicion will be proven wrong. (My experiment took place before the YoShit disaster).

Finally, we can get an official proof if we were right, suspecting them ignorance to stop following the "discussion" after they have submitted their one-liners.

I've asked 11 of them questions where I had no doubt that a normal user would reply. (I used my alt account 0xmiau because I couldn't bother my main account to post there and wade through the shitposts.)

I've tried to make it as simple as possible for them to answer and only replied to posts where my reply is directly below theirs. After I quoted them I waited a week for their reply.

Here is my result:


#1

Now with the arrival of the crypto of spring-everything starts to gain momentum.The best and easiest way to accumulate altcoin is to take part in a bantikompaniya or participate in ico.I choose the best ico and at the very beginning I go to the maximum.You can buy at the beginning of the company very successful coins - for a little money.Now is a good time to start saving coins.
Can you please enlighten me what means bantikompaniya?? Never heard this word but I have a guess already...
No reply:
http://archive.is/kZJzQ
http://archive.is/unGF5
http://archive.is/oREyg
http://archive.is/d8jmY
http://archive.is/WQg3a
http://archive.is/dwReg



#2

That's understandable. Many projects are not worth a cent. During the hyip began the emergence of a huge number of meaningless projects. Time will kill them.
as far as I know, not all of the coins until now are worth zero. because until now altcoin is still standing and used by many people even though there are many problems that always occur in altcoin so far.
The last part is true, most altcoins have huge problems because they were only issued for the sake of issuing another altcoin. While I agree to your last part, the previous part of your comment is totally contradictionary. 95% of all Altcoins are dead more or less in my opinion.
Why do you have the assumption that "altcoin is still standing and used by many people"?
No reply:
http://archive.is/lR9jO
http://archive.is/cbs9d
http://archive.is/DT7zX
http://archive.is/RLrNk
http://archive.is/yn5r8
http://archive.is/g528k
http://archive.is/prldS



#3

I don't see that happening  but Crypto at times does magic that suprises us but  for me it's like a dream that will never come true
Then, I'm wondering why you're still here on Bitcointalk if it's your dream that a centralized shitcoin like XRP will defeat Bitcoin. Ok, maybe your post wasn't thoughtful and just typed in a few seconds to spam the forum and collect worthless ICO shitcoins?
And please tell me only one good reason why it would be positive if XRP defeats Bitcoin.  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
No reply:
http://archive.is/QRgAg
http://archive.is/ulVcZ
http://archive.is/jCz1H



#4

If you see that your coin falls in price and the fall will continue further, then it makes sense to sell it and then buy at a cheaper price. Thus, you will have on your hands the same amount of coins, as well as profit from the difference in the price of sale and purchase.
Your advice sounds easy at the first view but is very difficult to do. How are you sure that the price will drop further? It's also possible that the price will go up again just after you sold. Do you have a strategy to know if the price will keep decreasing?
No reply:
http://archive.is/h6WFV



#5

Of course, errors in the world of cryptocurrency are very expensive. But if you do not do them, you will not learn anything. All normal profits from a long experience. And this is a normal situation.
Not definitely, it's also a security measure to test new things with little amounts of money and if someone makes a mistake the loss won't hurt much but you've still learned your lesson. And to avoid even more losses it's better to read much before money can be lost.

Or may I ask where do you think own mistakes are better to learn from?
No reply:
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http://archive.is/O2T98
http://archive.is/fITAb
http://archive.is/Hrx0V
http://archive.is/E3uVb
http://archive.is/W5tbk



#6

Most of the people said in this board there will be no bull run in the late of 2018 and there is a high probability that bull run comes in mid-2019. What's your thought about it?

Last year many people thought that by the end of 2018 there will be a bull run. But that didn't happen and the price was still very low. Banteng is one that is expected to be coming soon and now the market is in very good condition. But I don't think the bull is there and it still takes a long time.
May I ask what's Banteng? Is it good for us or should we be afraid that Banteng is coming soon?  Cheesy
No reply, but someone else replied. There is still a chance that the user would have replied if someone else didn’t reply instead:
http://archive.is/SB54c
http://archive.is/K0JUZ
http://archive.is/bn0gG



#7

personally i think ethereum is way more undervalued in comparison with bit[Suspicious link removed]d luck for everyone like me how still believe in the future of the ethereum blockchain and ecosystem Smiley
Why do you think ETH is way more undervalued in comparison with Bitcoin? ETH has still some more problems than Bitcoin and I would be surprised if there are reasons why it's undervalued. Which reasons do you have for your assumption?
No reply:
http://archive.is/FbYIO
http://archive.is/jJime
http://archive.is/AIBBG



#8


The recent introduction and success of IEO proves this right, because the exchanges validate the projects, so investor feel safe to invest their money.
Also a research done by exchanges is still no guarantee that the listed projects are legit and even if they are legit there's still an option that they fail. The exchange can't do anything if the developers are bad. In Germany, we had a big ICO, they collected 40 million $ advertised on big German websites and finally the project is now almost failed. It's likely that every exchange would have listed them because it seemed like a good project but it wasn't.
Why are you sure that exchanges will be a guarantee for successful projects?
No reply:
http://archive.is/J6yHV
http://archive.is/aMx7Y
http://archive.is/MVOFE
http://archive.is/4XMVN



#9

Bitcoin and Ethereum are way too volatile for my liking with a potential to return little profit with high risk. I rather discover gems like any coin and invest in it.
Ok, so your reason why you dislike investing in BTC and ETH is because they are too volatile? But actually, most shitcoins are much more volatile and their price can be easily manipulated by pump and dump. May I ask you why you think that random / unknown coins are less volatile than BTC / ETH? I think it's quite the opposite.  Cheesy
No reply:
http://archive.is/zOqoC
http://archive.is/BTKp0
http://archive.is/htI37



#10

I understand that people needs to makes the forum lively and create topics that will generate constructive comments for study purpose but there are some things we know that is not a point to contend with, like this, how can someone compare ETH to BTC, ever since ETH was created, has there been any development that they have achieved that has made them grow more than they are now, but look at BTC, every little development shows immediately in its value at stretch.

At bottom line, I am not saying that ethereum is not good, they are good and cannot perform more than 10% of bitcoin task.
I agree to your opinion about BTC and ETH that there is no reason why ETH should be better than BTC and I don't see any reasons in the future. The move to PoS will be very difficult and bring up some more serious issues for ETH.
However, regarding your first part. I don't think it will happen that some people will generate constructive comments in Altcoin discussion, especially when the title is so generic like Bitcoin vs Ethereum. They will just use it to post the well-known meaningless one-liners.
And while I've read OP again and had already a bad feeling that it's something we know very well here already, I've checked it and it's true:

OP is a plagiarizer, same content found here: https://www.investopedia.com/articles/investing/031416/bitcoin-vs-ethereum-driven-different-purposes.asp
Website archived: http://archive.is/eT7DY#selection-2437.6-2437.475

OP archived: http://archive.is/Rl7f0#selection-511.0-511.469

So what do you think? Is OP really creating a topic to discuss something or is it just to make a place for another bunch of shitposts? :
No reply:
http://archive.is/bXGWi
http://archive.is/4mkM5
http://archive.is/kiY1Q
http://archive.is/nqX3V
http://archive.is/Qchvm

And in addition, I caught a plagiarizer (reported hereCheesy Cheesy



#11

I do not understand how locking a bounty thread  can even affect anything at all. Reports are sent to the bounty branch, even after the bounty has ended, what prevention of price fall can we talk about ...
LOOOOL, locking the rewards not the bounty thread, bro!  Cheesy Cheesy
You gave me a good laugh.  Cheesy

Price of the token won't be affected in any way if their bounty thread is locked, OP meant locking the bounty tokens sent to bounty hunters to prevent a dump because they can't sell for a fixed time after they received their rewards.

I think it was just a confusion, does it make more sense to you now after my explanation?
I got a reply:

I do not understand how locking a bounty thread  can even affect anything at all. Reports are sent to the bounty branch, even after the bounty has ended, what prevention of price fall can we talk about ...

LOOOOL, locking the rewards not the bounty thread, bro!  Cheesy Cheesy
You gave me a good laugh.  Cheesy

Price of the token won't be affected in any way if their bounty thread is locked, OP meant locking the bounty tokens sent to bounty hunters to prevent a dump because they can't sell for a fixed time after they received their rewards.

I think it was just a confusion, does it make more sense to you now after my explanation?

Oh yes, my mistake, I did not correctly read the name of the branch, haha. I apologize for this embarrassment.
http://archive.is/cP6Gg#selection-5195.0-5195.49



Conclusion: out of 11 users 10 didn’t reply. I know, the result is not very representative but if someone is interested to do a similar experiment, feel free to do it.
And the recently launched YoShitShow is almost a guarantee that the issues won't get better...
7436  Other / Meta / Re: Report plagiarism (copy/paste) here. Mods: please give temp or permban as needed on: April 21, 2019, 10:14:16 PM
Please ban user Hiralbaria97 for plagiarism.

Original content: https://www.investopedia.com/articles/investing/031416/bitcoin-vs-ethereum-driven-different-purposes.asp
Website archived: http://archive.is/eT7DY#selection-2437.6-2437.475
Quote
While both Bitcoin and Ethereum are powered by the principle of distributed ledgers and cryptography, the two differ in many technical ways. For example, the programming language used by Ethereum is Turning complete whereas Bitcoin is in a stack-based language. Other differences include block time (Ethereum transaction is confirmed in seconds compared to minutes for Bitcoin) and their basic builds (Ethereum uses ethash while Bitcoin uses a secure hash algorithm, SHA-256). (See also: Is Ethereum More Important Than Bitcoin?)



Plagiarized / copy-paste: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5129747.0
OP archived: http://archive.is/Rl7f0#selection-511.0-511.469

Both Bitcoin and Ethereum are powered by the principle of distributed ledgers and cryptography, the two differ in many technical ways. For example, the programming language used by Ethereum is Turning complete whereas Bitcoin is in a stack-based language. Other differences include block time (Ethereum transaction is confirmed in seconds compared to minutes for Bitcoin) and their basic builds (Ethereum uses ethash while Bitcoin uses a secure hash algorithm, SHA-256)

Guys what you think?
Which will dominate most in furure?
7437  Economy / Reputation / Re: Article and Signature Campaign Cheaters (Multi Accounts) on: April 21, 2019, 09:55:29 PM
Very good report, I've tagged all of them.

If you detect more accounts, you can highlight the archived ETH addresses, looks like this:


You can get the link of every part of the archived site if you mark the text on archive.fo. The url will change to the adjusted version (including "selection"...).
It's easier for DT to verify your proof if the part containing the ETH address is shown directly.  Smiley



And I've the impression that there are much more accounts involved:

Serve20 used Telegram Name @Powerbankkkk here:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5081576.msg49514054#msg49514054
https://archive.fo/aiAU6#selection-7223.10-7223.23

There is another account called Powerbankkkk enrolled in the same campaign like the abusers:

https://archive.fo/yr3rM#selection-1499.0-1499.12
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5038398.msg49945310#msg49945310
7438  Other / Meta / Re: [EXPERIMENT] Testing the Limits of Shitposting on: April 20, 2019, 10:36:18 PM
[tinfoil]Perhaps the Yobit campaign is a false flag operation designed to smoke out dormant shitposters[/tinfoil]

YoBit signature campaign is a sign that the bull market is coming:

Although i'm very new on the forum but based on what i have learnt on the forum, exchange signature campaign can bring about some possibility of a growing bubble in crypto market. Haven seen this signature campaign(yobit.net) running on the forum with higher rank member be involved, draw my attention to the upcoming bubbles, if this can bring about it. If this can bring about a bubble then why can't we all join the campaign to make things work as fast as possible?.
There has been some argument between participants and none-participant about the legitimacy of this yobit.net signature campaign. Just want to hear your opinion on this.

If this's not the right place, kindly re-direct thanks.
We should all join there "to make things work as fast as possible" and bring BTC to a new ATH very soon. Exchange signatures are always a sign of growing bubbles, especially if high ranked-members are involved in the campaign (they can't be wrong - or is it just because of the payment?).
7439  Local / Trading und Spekulation / Re: Der Aktuelle Kursverlauf on: April 20, 2019, 10:26:00 PM
Man sollte ebenfalls nicht die Auswirkungen der neuen YoBit Signaturkampagne auf den Kurs vernachlässigen. Man munkelt nämlich, dass Exchange-Signaturkampagnen generell Vorboten für Bildungen von Blasen im Markt sein könnten:

Although i'm very new on the forum but based on what i have learnt on the forum, exchange signature campaign can bring about some possibility of a growing bubble in crypto market. Haven seen this signature campaign(yobit.net) running on the forum with higher rank member be involved, draw my attention to the upcoming bubbles, if this can bring about it. If this can bring about a bubble then why can't we all join the campaign to make things work as fast as possible?.
There has been some argument between participants and none-participant about the legitimacy of this yobit.net signature campaign. Just want to hear your opinion on this.

If this's not the right place, kindly re-direct thanks.


Seid also nicht überrascht, wenn der Kurs demnächst durch die Decke geht.  Tongue

 Cheesy Cheesy
7440  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The reason mining was banned in China on: April 20, 2019, 10:05:53 PM
Well to be honest I think it would be a good experiment when we would be able to see how ! Cryptocurrency + government can work together since it will be a derivative of a bank !

Any ideas about what will happen ? What do you guys think ?
I don't think a cryptocurrency issued by the Chinese government will work, especially not in China (and not for the people). The communist party of China is well known for their restrictions and they are arresting people who have a different opinion and are opposing the opinion of the communist party.
They'll just use their government-issued cyptocurrency to analyze crypto transactions completely, ban cash and froze the crypto accounts of a person if they are doing something the communist party doesn't like. If China is going to launch a crypto I'm almost sure that it wouldn't be a useful cryptocurrency because it'll be centralized and controlled by the government, not like Bitcoin, where you are your own bank.
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