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Question: Do you think changing "Escrow Provider Rating Grade" is necessary in order to get more realistic and accurate grades?
NO: It's doing good as it is now.
YES: you should consider trust based on Escrow service feedback only.
YES: you should consider reducing some points from "Trust Selfscratchers".
YES: you should remove all "Escrow Provider Rating Grade" metrics. Only names on List shall remain, no ranking at all.
YES: you should implement other suggestion(s) (please comment and share your opinion with us)...

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Using Escrow Services (provided by Escrow Agents)

WHAT IT IS: People trading goods and services can add a tool in order to "increase" the trust on both sides: customers and vendors. That may be done by employing an escrow system for all transaction. That additional step gives both sides some garantees.

HOW IT IS: This means that when you make an order the coins are deducted from your wallet, moves into a temporary escrow account, then after the vendor sends the order, he confirms it was sent. When you receive the package, you confirm it being received and the vendor claims the coin.

WHAT IF: If for whatever reason you do not receive the package you can send the order into resolution, where you and the vendor can resolve the problem or should that not work, the escrow service will step in an resolve the issue. Keep in mind this system is to prevent fraud on both the end of the seller and the buyer.

SUMMARY: Escrow services will not grant you 100% scam proof, but it is definetly an additional security layer in order to avoid coin losses and fraudsters.

All parameters here are subject to change, this is a work in progress...

If you got an idea, share it with us!

This is not meant to be an exhaustive list, just an preview for clients/customers in order to avoid scammers.

We cannot guarantee any member's reliability neither that your coins will be 100% safe. Due diligence is still necessary, do yours!

If Ranking List - Escrow Providers Image with stats does not load - RIGHT CLICK, REFRESH or Press F5
Ranking List Escrow Providers (Image/link): https://i.ibb.co/xS9p534/escrow.png

Members

bL4nkcodeThread BlazrThread DabsThread DudeperfectThread John (John K.)Thread krogothmanhattanThread Lutpin → Thread minerjonesThread monbuxThread OgNastyThread PsychoticBoyThread ranochigoThread SebastianJuThread Seccour → Thread SFR10Thread starsoccer9 → Thread silent17 → Thread StryfeThread zazarbThread

Legend & Labels

Rank: the member's position on the list;

Purpose → General classification of escrow providers.

Member: member's ID.

Cryptocurrency: which coin the escrow provider works with.

Escrow Provider Rating Grade → Thresholds per grade

AAA (Prime) → 12.5pts
AA (High grade) → 10pts
A (Upper medium grade) → 7.5pts
BBB (Lower medium grade) → 5pts
BB (Speculative) → 2.5pts
B (Highly speculative) → 1pt
CCC (Substantial risks) → 0
CC (Extremely speculative) → coins' release is delayed (over 72h) & escrow provider has no positive trust/feedback
C (Caution) → coins not released & escrow provider isn't responding after 2 (two) failed attempts/warnings
D (Debacle) → coins gone & escrow provider seems to be on the run

Score: it is the following algorithm.

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( 10 * sqrt(Trust) + 0.5 * sqrt(Activity) + 1 * sqrt(Merit) ) / ( 10 + 0.5 + 1 )

Purpose → just trying to build our own kind of fair classification here.

P.S. Collaborations about a fairer algorithm in order to improve that task will be much appreciated.

Trust: the 1st number (left to right) the escrow provider got at bitcointalk.org Marketplace trust system;

Purpose → "Web of trust" inside bitcointalk.org community.

P.S. Escrow providers with overall negative ratings (1st number left to right) will not be accepted on the list (the same goes for those already tagged as "SCAMMER" by community staff).

Brand new members with "Newbie" and "Jr. Member" status won't be accepted on the list as well: go get some activity first!

Activity: the number shown at that indicator (under member's name/avatar). It shows how active (and for how long) that member is at bitcointalk.org community. Members without activity for over a year will be delisted.

Merit: the number shown at that indicator (under member's name/avatar). It shows if that member posts good stuff at bitcointalk.org community.

Deal: Minimum→Maximum: minimum and maximum amount of coins allowed/accepted while using the escrow service (in BTC or USD).

Fees: cost for using the escrow service.

Sign.: Does the escrow provider work with PGP signed messages? And/Or does he or she sign messages from an already staked[a] cryptocurrency's address?

Purpose → Signed messages are additional security measures in order to grant the client some authenticity, integrity, and non-repudiation.

Application form

If you wanna apply for this list, please post here (or send me PM with) the following info:

1) Which cryptocurrencies do you work with?

2) Minimum and Maximum amount of coins allowed/accepted while using your escrow service (in BTC or USD);

3) Your fees;

4) Do you work with PGP signed messages OR signed messages from an already staked[a] cryptocurrency's address?

5) Link to "escrow announcement thread or website".

Notes

[a] Stake your cryptocurrencies' addresses here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=996318.0

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August 18, 2013, 04:51:32 AM
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April 8th, 2020: Blazr has been flagged (and removed from the list until issue is solved):

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Lauda alleges: Due largely to the factors mentioned in this topic, I believe that anyone dealing with Blazr is at a high risk of losing money, and guests would be well-advised to avoid doing so. This determination is based on concrete red flags which any knowledgeable & reasonable forum user should agree with, and it is not based on the user's opinions.
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If you know any scammer acting as an escrow provider or if you've been scammed, please report here!

I'll post/update the names/IDs here.

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Not a bad idea overall.

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August 19, 2013, 04:27:10 AM
Last edit: August 18, 2017, 03:45:57 AM by Financisto
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Not a bad idea overall.

...we are just trying to bring some transparency and turning this service into something a little bit more serious so newbies and unwarned people don't get scammed all the time...

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August 22, 2013, 05:50:14 AM
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Hey.. I didn't know I was on this list until now. Thanks.

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August 23, 2013, 01:34:26 AM
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Hey.. I didn't know I was on this list until now. Thanks.

And your score is not bad. Congrats!

BTW, more members will be on the list soon...

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August 23, 2013, 06:20:50 PM
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this thread still useful?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=108716.0

BTW, SebastianJu is also doing escrow.
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August 24, 2013, 03:45:04 AM
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this thread still useful?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=108716.0

BTW, SebastianJu is also doing escrow.

Please don't add me to the list, I am currently not doing escrows anymore as per request from my legal team.

Thank you.



                                                                                                                                             
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August 24, 2013, 04:26:29 AM
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People have used me to escrow in the past (highest was ~$2000 worth of BTC). Reputation thread link is in my signature. Feel free to add me to the list if I meet your expectations.

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this thread still useful?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=108716.0

BTW, SebastianJu is also doing escrow.

I don't know about that thread.

I could not find the announcement thread to Mr. SebastianJu's escrow service.

As mentioned above:

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Only members with announcements threads / sites will be listed.

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Please don't add me to the list, I am currently not doing escrows anymore as per request from my legal team.

Thank you.

Ok. No problem.

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People have used me to escrow in the past (highest was ~$2000 worth of BTC). Reputation thread link is in my signature. Feel free to add me to the list if I meet your expectations.

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The scores from all members were updated too.

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Could I be added since I'm getting a lot of referrals with John away for a bit? Free/tips unless Cas' three-party escrow tool is used, then a minimum of .1BTC or 1% of transaction, whichever's greater.

Escrow sheet w/ previous & current transactions @ https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0Ao892S4MOoDZdFFTc0tFbWVxUTZFVzVOMWxzV3pkclE&output=html

(BTC only, won't touch anything where a chargeback or account reclaim is possible, GPG available on request)
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Could I be added since I'm getting a lot of referrals with John away for a bit? Free/tips unless Cas' three-party escrow tool is used, then a minimum of .1BTC or 1% of transaction, whichever's greater.

Escrow sheet w/ previous & current transactions @ https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0Ao892S4MOoDZdFFTc0tFbWVxUTZFVzVOMWxzV3pkclE&output=html

(BTC only, won't touch anything where a chargeback or account reclaim is possible, GPG available on request)

I've got to keep the rules posted above:

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Only members with announcements threads / sites will be listed.

Do you have/started any announcement thread about your service?

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Could I be added since I'm getting a lot of referrals with John away for a bit? Free/tips unless Cas' three-party escrow tool is used, then a minimum of .1BTC or 1% of transaction, whichever's greater.

Escrow sheet w/ previous & current transactions @ https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0Ao892S4MOoDZdFFTc0tFbWVxUTZFVzVOMWxzV3pkclE&output=html

(BTC only, won't touch anything where a chargeback or account reclaim is possible, GPG available on request)

I've got to keep the rules posted above:

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Do you have/started any announcement thread about your service?
Blam. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=285211.0
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August 31, 2013, 09:26:16 AM
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How can I put my name on the list?

I know JohnK's busy moving now and that's given me some business.
JohnK's also on our local Whatsapp group that talks about everything on Bitcoin.
Had a 36 BTC escrow completed yesterday and I also run an automated escrow service at BTC-ASIA(see sig).
Thanks.

ninjaboon Reputation Thread
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How can I put my name on the list?

I know JohnK's busy moving now and that's given me some business.
JohnK's also on our local Whatsapp group that talks about everything on Bitcoin.
Had a 36 BTC escrow completed yesterday and I also run an automated escrow service at BTC-ASIA(see sig).
Thanks.

ninjaboon Reputation Thread
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Trust summary for ninjaboon:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=64005

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Do you own/operate BitcoinMalaysia.com and BitAngels.co?

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September 12, 2013, 03:03:58 AM
Last edit: March 13, 2017, 07:15:55 AM by Financisto
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Minor modification added to list's algo.

The weights have been changed as follows:

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( 25 * Trust + 5 * Biz + 1 * SQRT(Activity) ) / ( 25 + 5 + 1 )

The scores from all members have been updated as usual.

To be continued...

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September 28, 2013, 04:43:53 AM
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How can I put my name on the list?

I know JohnK's busy moving now and that's given me some business.
JohnK's also on our local Whatsapp group that talks about everything on Bitcoin.
Had a 36 BTC escrow completed yesterday and I also run an automated escrow service at BTC-ASIA(see sig).
Thanks.

ninjaboon Reputation Thread
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=240370.0

Trust summary for ninjaboon:
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Do you own/operate BitcoinMalaysia.com and BitAngels.co?

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Hi

I own/operate BitcoinMalaysia.com.

As for BitAngels.co, I'm a just member. The site is owned by David Johnston.


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The scores from all members have been updated as usual.

Notes and additional info updated as well.

To be continued...

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The scores from all members have been updated as usual.

Notes and additional info updated as well.

To be continued...

つづく

thank you

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October 02, 2013, 05:37:52 PM
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I'd like to throw my hat in the ring as a trusted escrow provider.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=303281.msg3244972#msg3244972

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