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7461  Economy / Gambling discussion / Do not send money first to new accounts. on: July 07, 2019, 12:00:05 PM
  Do not send money first to new accounts.

This topic is very likely a scam based on BTC payment first, no delivery of goods/services
 


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i am expert in foot.

Most likely not well trained in Podiatry just bad English usage, its quite often the case that poor use of language is not a good sign for validity of the thread, etc.       I agree its likely going to be similar to 99% of email type scams, where most people see its not a good idea but its only takes one person and its worthwhile to the OP to continue.


I just suggest everyone edit their posts to make it more obvious this is very simply a topic asking for money, not much more we can do.    The service section is likely full of these attempts, its caveat emptor unfortunately
7462  Economy / Services / Re: Can someone buy a software for me with paypal? I'd pay in bitcoin plus 10% on: July 07, 2019, 02:28:10 AM
Cant see why this software would be restricted especially to any buyer.   I've been registered here for over 6 years and posted regularly during that time and done a few sales and a purchase like this.
    Let me know if you would like to go ahead
7463  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Looking for betting partner on: July 06, 2019, 07:14:14 PM
  Do not send money first to new accounts.

This topic is very likely a scam based on BTC payment first, no delivery of goods/services
 


I've heard tales of sure wins and what happens when people bet that way, not the path to happiness usually.   Something always happens.
    The OP needs to find a tipping service established and use them, I dont think he was offering to handle anyones money surely as obviously we get handy offers like this daily.   I got hundreds in email spam folder lol

Build up a betting record first, people will take anything you say more seriously if have a history of taking part in pre match discussions etc.    Nobody is trying to be unfriendly exactly
7464  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in - Win a Lamborghini Huracan LP 580-2!! on: July 06, 2019, 07:10:11 PM
You missed the current live score. Sportsbooks are giving South Africa a ~86.5% probability of winning live in play at the moment. Maybe not so crazy now Tongue

I've not done it any time recently but I used to do esports live betting like that and would sell the bet at that point when the odds swing to its favour mid match.   Even if you lose then, you already made a profit  and its nice when you cant watch the entire match to hedge like that.    Sadly that site disappeared and did not return customer funds, just as well I was not active at that point Shocked
7465  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is your most weird betting experience? on: July 06, 2019, 03:24:44 AM
Betting on a very small startup esports bet site and everyone piled onto the favourites in the last minutes, which meant the odds were ridiculous and went to over 30 to 1
    Even greater surprise was the underdog won, it was an unknown team but this unknown was a retired pro for voluntary reasons and they won Smiley
7466  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Sportsbetting odds, which do you prefer? on: July 05, 2019, 10:19:10 PM
Odds always favour the house and the majority of bets.   Have to find when supporters are ignoring a very possible win by the team less rated, usually people just back the dominant team no matter the odds because no one likes to lose.   Sometimes it pays to chance the loss but also the payout on a falter.

I dont think its luck, but outside factors can have a unpredictable effect and its hard to know these things beforehand unless you are local or able to watch them practise perhaps
7467  Economy / Economics / Re: Gold exist 1000+ years. while bitcoins exist 10 years. on: July 05, 2019, 08:15:32 PM
Big rise in gold recently in almost any currency but utility and convenience says both crypto and gold will continue on separate paths, covering different objectives and audiences



Crypto will always have a use beyond gold as it is not tied to the physical and people who are global citizens with skills usable in any country will want to be part of that wealth able to used anywhere even without perfect personal freedom.
   GOld carries with it a security risk and requirement for some personal freedom to at least be able to own possessions.    Both have uses to them that will continue a decade into the future or more I think.    Gold is more central and a counter to FIAT debt and crypto is more transaction and free use, its value may vary but it is always liquid.   Both should very useful for common people, which means both do well I think
7468  Economy / Speculation / Re: Line in the sand {price predictions} - post or link a graph pretty please on: July 05, 2019, 04:03:58 PM
Still in the same area, still a bit of a drift downwards I think.    We're top of a channel and this chart speculates it will form some top for at least today with perhaps bottom of the channel a target



So thats 10,250 roughly.   Hardly a great fall and still part of this daily up and down.    The ideal bearish scenario is to lose this channel where as last low we see it caught the bottom and recovered.    Blue line 8 day, for a bet down we need stay below this on 4hr closing bar I think and obviously the daily trend is nearby.
7469  Economy / Speculation / Re: ichimoku cloud says 3100$ is the cheapest bitcoin will ever be on: July 05, 2019, 03:51:32 PM
I didnt spot any regular trend until Feb and even then I'm doubting it will turn around properly like it has done.   I drew the chart right though in showing the trend of rising lows regularly.
   I'm glad I gave this guy merit, no idea why it would be evidence in anything negative when its a good topic in the right place, etc.     Some people are absolutely sound in their speculation and stating the current situations factors at least price wise, fundamentals is another forum section perhaps

TA is probability to me, its not stating certainties and thats why people hate it because they want to slam their fist on the table and declare this is the bottom price and no sell order shall pass.   Meanwhile reality, anything can happen and we merely can know what is most probable and that is profitable observation imo
7470  Economy / Speculation / Re: BTC - Pump or Dump on: July 05, 2019, 06:49:11 AM
Harsh pull back in a generally rising market can occur, heres a super old chart I dug out from 2017 which was famously bullish year -



The chart at the time showed why I was generally looking to hold for far longer then just to Feb or so.   It was justified in the end though it was a hard sell off.   The chart right now for pricing now is quite similar but I expect at least 9000 perhaps lower
7471  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Ethereum: Welcome to the Beginning on: July 05, 2019, 06:19:57 AM
ethereum rise will catch bitcoin rise with releasing eth 2.0  you'll see guys

2020 is a year for ethereum

Does anyone know about staking Ethereum with pools POS perhaps handling the smaller amounts people might want to hold.    Just wondering if thats a thing, either now or in prospect
7472  Economy / Services / Re: Do not miss the chance to get a reward for testing new mode of [banned mixer] on: July 05, 2019, 06:16:36 AM
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7473  Economy / Economics / Re: bitcoin goes down, no new rich people anymore on: July 04, 2019, 06:49:49 PM
If you thought that bitcoin is going to make your rich then you have wrong understanding about it,it is not made to for the people to get richer its just to create value for the curreny which is something not in control of anyone.


Yep exactly, value is a result of utility and the enablement of trade especially where that trade would not exist in a conventional FIAT system.   If BTC can really do that then its going to be massive.
    Society favours systems of exchange which benefit it not us, if dollar fails it doesnt have to help BTC it can just use a different system.  Bitcoin has a real long road ahead to justify this speculation of being a future useful and reliable system, yea its some use now but I think far more is required or we get replaced.   It always happens, a better product will replace BTC or anything else ( I dont count the clones/forks as that replacement)

7474  Economy / Speculation / Re: What. Bitcoin price dropped to 24€/BTC on: July 04, 2019, 05:34:07 PM
The graph can in theory show 1 dollar a bitcoin but the important factor would be the volume for that price, if it was just 1 order and for some reason there was little other deals at that time then its what we call an insignificant price.

It happens anyway, some gaps exist between the trading spheres of the world as it turns and various nations come into their main trading days.   It'll never go to 1 like that but we all know Bitcoin jumps around alot and its partly due to this effect of volatile volume.

Where low volume exists the price is less accurate, the speed at which BTC can pass through a new pricing level is far faster.   Old price like 6000 will be like a road covered with speed bumps, many thousands of orders waiting to captue the price and engage a deal so results higher volume.    At 13k I dont think there is much volume, however that also means less buyers I guess.  10,000 will have lots by now
7475  Economy / Services / Re: I need to cash out on: July 04, 2019, 05:12:19 PM
Is there some way to wire through a trusted proxy so the guy on the other end doesn't actually get my bank numbers?  I suppose Moneygram or Western Union might be options.  So localbitcoins automatically handles the escrow?

They do get your sort and account number but then these details are given out on every written cheque and every time you buy using a debit card this would be provided information.    I wouldnt say its completely harmless but mostly its not a problem to disclose such information and banks do not simply allow people to sipher out cash purely by knowing an address.    Its just a reference not permission, I think having credit card details is far worse and thats why they introduced the 3 number thing on the back as well.


Anyhow LBC does handle the escrow part and the best part is to exchange with long term members who do regular business.  Its in their interests not to be causing trouble because you are already paying some % for their benefit and most of these guys just want to do as many trades as possible.
7476  Economy / Speculation / Re: Downward Trend on: July 04, 2019, 03:24:01 PM
It broke $12k already, 24 hours high in Binance is $12,000, see here - https://www.binance.com/en/trade/BTC_USDT

Right now I see the price in red because since midnight we pulled back at a bit but thats false perspective I guess as the chart itself shows us climbing higher above what could have been resistance.    We're above the 8 day trend and also a channel which I thought might cap our gains for the moment.   Last time we climbed above the roof like this we took off to 13k because there is little price action in this area compared to sub 10k



So long as we're above 11,500 I assume we are very positive.   I cant really look for negatives till we close below that point on a 4hr bar at least
7477  Economy / Services / Re: I need to cash out on: July 03, 2019, 10:42:55 PM
Well Tether would be the temporary option, parking not scrapping.   Hauling value out of crypto into FIAT does have some costs to it and tether might be cheaper then that process.
   If you are new to this whole game then the option I've had most experience with and generally take to the most simple is localbitcoins.   There is other routes but very often it takes a while to jump through all the hoops and hurdles to convince them you are not serving a foreign army with your giant riches.

I've been on LBC as long as I've been on this forum, let me know if you wondering about any option there.   I dont know we share the same national currency as thats the simplest deal to go for otherwise I'd offer to help with the actual deal to do.   My general take right now is to hold BTC, I've seen this before and like previously it would seem to be accumulating over time despite every weeks peaks and drops.


Super simple option I often used to take ( to balance my risk vs costs, etc) was just to spend the BTC on items I would be getting anyhow, at least some of it .   There should be multiple options for that and shops, I think purse for amazon was mentioned as a good one but I need to check that out myself
7478  Economy / Speculation / Re: Does Facebooks's Libra cause the growth of bitcoin? on: July 03, 2019, 09:59:23 PM
Its not a direct 1:1 ratio between Libra coming into view and BTC rising, markets is a cauldron of many interests and influences.   Theres always a constant stream of sellers and we have to anticipate when the buyers will outnumber sellers but also in confidence between the two.  
   BTC is famous for selling off as weak hands drop it on selling pressure, causing sharp spikes down.   All Libra has to do to raise the price is to some extent increase confidence in the whole sector and viability of online digital currency.

WE all know all Libra will not be proper crypto, its going to be quite close to Paypal from what I can see.   Maybe some interesting modern advantages but mostly it wont be close to how BTC can operate anywhere without help or oversight.     However perception of Libra could help Bitcoin and that might reflect in price.   If the actual benefits of Libra give nothing back to BTC (in adding liquidity for example), then we will see weakness or a reversal of the positive benefits we see now.
7479  Economy / Services / Re: 🚀CyberDice 🎲 Signature Campaign 🚀 [FULL] on: July 03, 2019, 09:49:25 PM
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Just to confirm I would like to continue participation, only a very long time ago was I once required to say this and I didnt realise and auto exited that campaign without even reading the requirement beforehand.  Most people would not be used to that being the setup.   Just in case, I'm happy to continue thanks  Cool
7480  Economy / Economics / Re: The Central Bank of Facebook on: July 03, 2019, 09:44:05 PM
If indeed Libra is a stable crypto currency

The funny thing might be that Libra is more stable for many parts of the world, as it will be a balanced basket of international currencies.   Where as most prices are based off something backed by US dollar which of course is subject to the continually revolving 4 year cycle of politics and promises to spend more on fiscal budgets then can be repaid, hence the value is continually dropping in real terms.
    If people held Libra instead for even quite small amounts of (regular) spending for digital commerce it could be very influential on the scale of billions of people who use Facebook.   I would like to see a shake up, some surprise and change occurring to what is a biased frankly broken 1 currency global reserve system we are all leaning on right now.
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