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I agree, it would be unfair to Liverpool. I will go further and say it would also be unfair to Leeds United and West Bromwich Albion who are top of the Championship trying to break in to the premier league. I think it would also be extremely harsh on Fulham, Brentford, Nottingham Forest and Preston North End who are all in the Championship play-off positions. I also think it would be extremely unfair to Bristol City, Millwall, Cardiff City, Blackburn Rovers and Swansea City who are all within touching distance of getting in to a Championship play-off position. Where does it stop? What is the fair way to proceed? How can one team be awarded a winners title or another be relegated or another be promoted in this current climate? Yes it would be unfair to Liverpool, they have been excellent this season but I would have wanted them to win the premier league title after playing their 38 games like all other teams. Dude, it's 25 points.
If this season couldn't continue, it's correct that there is no winner or loser a.k.a the season void. However, it feels so unfair to Liverpool. |
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 Look at the premier league table, Liverpool have not mathematically won it yet though there is a case for them being eventual winners. Sheffield United in their first season back to the premier league are fighting for a Champions League or Europa League spot. Wolves, Tottenham and Arsenal are all vying for an automatic Champions League spot if Manchester City fail in their attempt to overturn their European ban at the appeal hearing. Manchester United and Chelsea are fighting for 4th place finish so how can that be called? Norwich who are rock bottom are just 6 points from safety, who says they will not turn it around and stay up? Why should Bournemouth accept being relegated when they are on equal points with Watford and West Ham? If the same thing was being discussed that season when Newcastle united were 12 points ahead of Manchester United but in the end Newcastle lost the lead and Manchester United were crowned champions of the premier league - then Newcastle would wrongly have been crowned champions. What is the fair way to deal with these issues? I think the most reasonable decision is to use the current table as the final table, but no relegation/promotion should take place. I think Liverpool can be safely declared as the EPL winner since they are dominating the league and have 25 points more than City. This way, at least we have something to celebrate in this season with no "unjust" feeling.
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Alan Shearer says: " it’s unfair if Liverpool are awarded Premier League title if season is cancelled over coronavirus" " If, and it is a huge if, the season cannot be completed then there is no way you can have a winner or loser" Full article: https://metro.co.uk/2020/03/16/alan-shearer-unfair-liverpool-awarded-pl-title-season-cancelled-coronavirus-12403302I agree with Alan Shearer. How is it possible to work out who gets relegated and who gets promoted from/to each of the leagues including the premier league? Even if the top team (in this case Liverpool) were mathematically unable to be caught therefore would be winners, there is a case to say that if any even happened with say 2 or 3 games to go which results in a points deduction then it could change things. Surely the sensible thing to do is to make the season void and all teams in all the leagues start the season from scratch in August. That should only be considered if it is not possible to extend the current season to accommodate all games. -------------------- Alan Sugar says "give it to Liverpool" Karren Brady says "make it void"
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I'm a huge fan of Messi, and I strongly believe he's the greatest player of all time. I think if Messi was a goalkeeper he would be a speck of dust in comparison to players such as Peter Shilton, Petr Čech, Peter Schmeichel, Oliver Kahn or even the somewhat diminutive for a goalkeeper Fabien Barthez. Ronaldo has the physique to be a goalkeeper, much taller than Messi and more athletic. Looking at great central defenders of their era such as Bobby Moore, Tony Adams, Alan Hansen, the great Paolo Maldini and even players such as Virgil Van Dijk or Rio Ferdinand - how can anybody say Messi could be compared to them? They were masters of their trade in their positions. Who would choose Messi in a left back position when they have better options such as the great Roberto Carlos and even players such as Ashley Cole and Dennis Irwin to name a few. In the centre midfield, there were too many masters of their trade to simply allow Messi to walk in to the team. Even in the great Barcelona teams of 2009+ when Guardiola was manager, Xavi and Iniesta occupied those roles. Playing Messi on the left wing or on the right wing makes sense, playing him in the middle behind a striker or as a sole striker does not. Who would choose Messi over Ronaldo Luís Nazário de Lima (the Brazilian great El Fenomeno)? As for Ronaldo, if he was called upon to do it I am sure with his mental focus he would be able to play in literally any position if the manager asked him in an emergency including goal and no matter how bad he might play in those roles he would be better than Messi. That speaks volumes because Messi is definitely not the greatest player of all time, there is no one player that has played in all 11 positions on the football pitch to cement that title. In a like-for-like position Diego Maradona (also a left footed player) was a greater player than Messi. What Maradona did for Argentina in both the Mexico 1986 and Italia 1990 FIFA World Cup competitions as well as for Napoli after his transfer from Barcelona was nothing short of miraculous. Even the legendary Pelé stated "Maradona was a much better player than Messi": https://en.as.com/en/2018/12/06/football/1544122661_793685.htmlSaying any one player is the greatest in the position they play in might be a better way to debate it  However, for this poll I chose Ronaldo. I'd rather have Ronaldo on my team for a few reasons, the first reason would be his motivation/hunger for success. Ronaldo is always a player that is motivated and a better leader than Lionel Messi, and he puts in more than the extra needed almost at all times, he's never satisfied with his achievements and he's always eager for more, I'm not saying that Messi doesn't putting enough efforts, but then I'm just saying Ronaldo puts in more efforts and zeal, that's why I would rather have him on my team.
I have seen very few players that have the mental ability to push themselves further and never be happy with what they achieve so much so they are always hungry for more success. For me, Ronaldo is the player I would want in my team over Messi. It cannot be overstated how great a player Messi is but I think he will not be winning any more Ballon d'Or where as even with his age at 35 Ronaldo seems to be on fire at Juventus. Outside of the Barcelona team, Messi has not really won anything of substance including almost nothing important with the Argentina national team though he has won 6 Ballon d'Or with Ronaldo on 5 Ballon d'Or awards. Ronaldo has won the English, Spanish and Italian league titles - unbelievable. He also has won the European Champions League with an English (Manchester United 1 time) and a Spanish team (Real Madrid 4 times), now trying to win it with an Italian team (Juventus). He has also became a national team European champion when the Portugal national team won the UEFA European Cup. I have never ever seen a player do things with a football in a way that the great Diego Maradona did but he is not the greatest footballer because it is impossible to compute as nobody has played in every position over a long length of time to evaluate. In my opinion Maradona was one of the greatest in the position he played in on the pitch. |
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None of the casinos have agreed to pay old investors at all.
The payments are done by me from the rev share I receive. How can you be trusted with whatever tiny amounts affiliates links bring in when you are the one who stole from ICO investors, BKB investors, BKT investors, winner of wagers, used pirated software avoiding to pay licence fees and you were the one that stole over $400,000 of bitcoin blaming it on an imaginary hack and shutting down betking? If you wonder why again no investors or players ever post in your threads it's because most are in constant communication with me in the token holders telegram group. Well was that when you first wrote telling victims you would not ask victims for money then changed your tune begging them for money? When they told they would not pay you more money and wanted their stolen funds back you threw a tantrum and told them you were going back to getting a 9-5 job and giving up on crypto. Oh yes, some us know exactly what is going on in that invite-only telegram of yours which is full of so many synonymous "lol" of yours I lost count Here you can see > 140 token holders or people who lost in the hack are in this group. They are well aware of me using the BetKing site as an affiliate portal and we discussed it at length before it went live.
This is just one of a number of things I've setup to bring income to refund investors. The easiest thing to do would be to simply return the funds you stole and blamed on an imaginary hack. Nobody wants to be in your telegram group, they are just floating around in the hope they might get something returned to them if they play nicey-nice along with you. There doesn't need to be a public list of people. That would be stupid for obvious reasons. People who lost in the hack or have tokens obviously know they did and 99% have been contacted by email and over 60% are in the group. Of which > 90% of actual $ is in the group too. You stole over $400,000 worth of bitcoin from investors then blamed it on an imaginary hack without ever explaining to them why you transferred all the funds from the cold wallet on to the hot wallet just before the "hack" took place and why you never informed the police  |
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I missed this excellent post. The analogies are valid and very good examples about modern day shoring up of support for right wing extremist ideologies coming from the present US administration and looking back at exactly what constituted an enemy by the then US administration during the time of world war two. You are right, Mike the bank robber is as absurd an example as it can get but under the US administration of that era it was the policy they applied - they imprisoned all Mike's in essence. Another country does in Pearl Harbor, kills thousands of US Citizens, declares war n the US, and is universally understood to be the enemy, but citizens of that country are not the enemy. Since a country is comprised of citizens, I think a lot of people might have a problem with that.
Most citizens are civilians, i.e. non-combatants. We are edging into Geneva Convention territory here. A kamikaze pilot in a Japanese war plane howling down on a US ship is certainly the enemy. But what about an 80 year old fisherman from Okinawa who just wants to catch fish to sell in the local market, and live quietly with his family? What about a teenage pacifist from Kyoto who protests about his government attacking Pearl Harbor? What about a nurse from Tokyo who twenty years previously emigrated to the US and married a Texan rancher, but never became an official US citizen? You can't assign guilt to these people, or declare them a threat, just because the pilot was Japanese. That's racism. In my country there have been attacks on Muslims because people think: Terrorist attack. Terrorists were Muslims. Therefore all Muslims are terrorists. It's the same thing. To take it to the point of absurdity: imagine a situation where a man named Mike robs a bank. The answer isn't to imprison everyone in the country whose name is Mike. |
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9 votes in total
5 votes for Ronaldo
4 vote for Messi
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POLL ADDED
Premier League 2019/20 Season: What Should Happen Because of Coronavirus Fears?
- Voided - no champion & no relegations
- Use current PL table as the 'final' table
Alan Sugar says "give it to Liverpool". Karren Brady says "make it void".
What do you say?
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Large gatherings will not be permitted so the fight might be called off until a later date. Right now so many sporting events have been cancelled or postponed, I think this fight will go the same way. Do you think this match date will not be affected by the corona virus pandemic? Since it will be in July, about 4 months from now, do you think that virus has been contained at that time? Many sports have been cancelled lately and possibly in the next couple of months.
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With all the countries around the world that have coronavirus confirmed cases, the US administration decide to suspend all flights from all the 26 Schengen Area nations (in Europe) as well as the UK and Ireland from 17th March 2020 to make it 28 nations. Add to those Iran and China then it becomese the 30 nations that the US administration has suspended flights from. Exactly why flights from others nations are allowed is somewhat puzzling given there is risk of coronavirus carriers visiting from those nations anyway. Here is the map showing the US flight suspensions.  |
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Updates added to OP including wife of Spanish prime minister testing positive and Rwanda reporting the face known case of coronavirus in its country.
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I reported the fact they nuked the original one only for them to allow the next one as soon as it was created but they have not taken action. I wonder if they will nuke it and ban the sock-puppets. I wasn't aware that they had already had their official thread nuked. I've no idea why mods are allowing them to use another then..... |
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It will be harsh on Liverpool but another view is to make the full season null and void. Karren Brady the West Ham vice-chair says ‘only fair thing to do’ is cancel season: https://www.theguardian.com/football/2020/mar/14/west-ham-karren-brady-calls-for-premier-league-cancellation-coronavirusIt will be interesting to see what happens when the football club representatives meet to discuss possible steps. @JollyGood I don’t know about Liverpool fans, but as a Manchester United fan I’ll be very happy if they’re not crowned as Premier League champions. However as a football fan I’ll have to admit it’s a harsh decision considering how dominant they were this season, and this Thursday we will find out what happens next. |
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I am not making a scam accusation against Plutus but I am making the point they have used sock-puppets in an attempt to drum up fake buzz. Threads cannot be pumped to the top of listings with low level sock-puppet accounts yet they attempted it. What makes it startling is that I sent a PM to them on 6th March 2020 with a very well worded approach asking them to stop which they did for a week before they started doing it again therefore I created this thread. Here is the PM I sent them on 6th March 2020 after they started using sock-puppets to post in their thread, it coincided with their photo campaign and was obviously a shady move. ------------ Hello,
Regarding this thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1521838.1440
I am not saying you are using sock-puppets or that you are paying for fake accounts in an attempt to pump your thread but it has been noted that newbies have started posting in your thread - specifically pages 73 and 74 which coincides at a time when you are trying to drum up interest in your business with your photo campaign therefore it raises suspicion for obvious reasons.
I hope whoever is controlling the fake newbie accounts will stop posting in your thread. Thank you.
Kind Regards------------ Even after requesting they stop it a brand newbie account was created just to post this today: Hi ,i dont understand how to spend PLU with plutus debit card ,how tu add ,in plutos app ,PLU cryptocurrency to plutos debit card? It is a shame that any project feels the need to use sock-puppets in an attempt to drum up fake buzz. |
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Thank you for your feedback and opinion, on this occasion I disagree with what you have to say but your point has been noted. Looking back, I think I should have elaborated further with something like this: Ridiculous: https://www.bitspay.io/ListingThe listing page on the website is absolutely nonsensical. There is nothing professional about it. There are far too many faults with it but just looking at the first two General Obligations clauses: "Once of the application form was approved the developers are obliged to fulfill the following: 1. To publish Bitspay banner and Bitspay Exchange information on the same resources where the information about the coin/token is represented (Official site, Medium, Twitter & etc). 2. To ensure and maintain 30 BTC of minimal monthly trading volume." The first clause is not defined within clearly laid out parameters (such as which banner, which size etc) and the second clause is not defining how it is achievable when all trading is to take place on their website after they receive a listing fee. Furthermore there is no guarantee any new coin or token listed will achieve even 1 BTC trading per month - there are no guarantees hence ridiculous. As for the other three, I might add them later but regardless they cannot negate the bigger picture of the scam. I feel you need to dial down the opinions when you are presenting the facts. Instead simply say here are the links <example> and these are the conclusions I have drawn from reviewing those links. <your conclusions> |
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26 votes in the poll so far
19 vote for Fury
7 votes for Wilder
Do you think Wilder will retire if he loses again?
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It has been 10 days since you last posted here, it is not good for them to stay silent for this length of time even though they said they would comment on this subject no further. This is almost petty conduct on their part. As for you filing a complaint, that is good because you had no other choice but I still feel the best way forward would have been to resolve the issue between the two of you in PMs. Sadly them ignoring your requests to resolve this matter has made it get to this stage. Cloudbet doesn't want to cooperate nor are they willing to provide any investigation and proof to me.
I filed complaint to Curaçao eGaming and hopefully they will push Cloudbet to send me my money back.
I will keep everyone updated.
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