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7501  Other / Politics & Society / Re: This frozen chicken “had a rich, emotional life.” on: November 30, 2014, 09:12:40 PM

one day we will evolve past food in the current format, at the moment i dont know how some poor city located family would attempt a vegetarian diet.

They could start by stopping being ignorant and shop their organically vegetarian food at wholefood http://www.wholefoodsmarket.com/values-matter

And if they can't afford it, they should die rather than eating meat...

Love+Peace+Meat Free


 Wink Smiley Wink


7502  Other / Politics & Society / Re: It's funny to see these thugs in Ferguson bitching about how they have nothing on: November 30, 2014, 09:09:11 PM



VIDEO>>> SNIPERS TAKE POSITION Atop #Ferguson Rooftops – Protesters VERY UPSET (Video)





Ferguson businesses – the ones that are still standing – brought in local militias this week to protect their property from violent protesters, looters and arsonists.
The militia volunteers were members of the Oathkeepers, an organization founded in 2009 to protect the Constitution and individual rights.

One woman was very upset that the members were guarding a Ferguson business. The woman actually says it’s wrong for the militia to protect other people’s property.

“It’s not a joke, I’m sorry. It’s not about intentionality(?) This is somebody else’s property, not even yours. And, you’re volunteering too. You’re not even being paid… It’s unacceptable. It’s diabolical. It’s sinful.”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jWEEB61xQ8



Ferguson police forced the Oathkeepers off of the rooftops on Saturday after complaints by protesters.
The St. Louis Post-Dispatch reported:

They are volunteers affiliated with a 35,000-member national organization called Oath Keepers. Yale Law School graduate and libertarian Stewart Rhodes said by telephone from Montana that he founded the group in 2009 to protect constitutional rights, including those of protesters confronted by what he described as overly militarized police.

Police questioned group members early in the week and allowed them to stay. But Saturday, after media inquiries, St. Louis County police officers ordered the Oath Keepers to leave the rooftops.

Threatened with arrest for operating without a license, the volunteers argued but eventually left their positions early Saturday, Rhodes said.

“We are going to go back as protesters,” Rhodes said Saturday afternoon.

Rhodes, who said he is Mexican-American, stressed that Oath Keepers is not anti-government. He said the volunteers handling rooftop security in Ferguson were current or former government employees and first responders, many who have intense military, police and EMS training.



http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/11/video-snipers-take-position-atop-ferguson-rooftops-protesters-very-upset-video/


7503  Other / Politics & Society / Re: It's funny to see these thugs in Ferguson bitching about how they have nothing on: November 30, 2014, 09:03:34 PM
The Blaze. Roll Eyes Journalistic integrity at its finest.


The blaze tried to mike brown you too? Smiley


7504  Other / Politics & Society / Re: This frozen chicken “had a rich, emotional life.” on: November 30, 2014, 09:01:35 PM
http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/healthy-living/how-our-vegan-diet-made-us-ill-848322.html

Think I'll give it a wide berth and stay fit and healthy in my omnivore diet that nature intended.

That story is a propaganda piece. lol ..

No one goes 3 years on ANY diet then suddenly wakes up and realizes the children have become sickly.

Either the story is completely made up or, mom recently made some bad changes to her family's diet.

Obviously your going to say that as you don't like what it says. If the article had been pro vegan you would of jumped on it, trumpets blowing. It was pointless you commenting.

Way I see it why take the risk? Certainly with kids anyway.
Best thing is to eat a well balanced all round diet. Everything in moderation. And of course exercise.

Never seen anyone get ill from that.


You obviously decided to omit the most important part of my quote. Which btw, you obviously have no legitimate response to.

I suggest you read the article again. It explains how the mother felt something was wrong over time, and the children degraded slowly, particularly in the third year.
Did you bother reading it or just quickly scanned it reading just the parts you want and ignoring the bits you don't want to see?

Here's an article that shows a vegan diet can be successful:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2298032/Is-feeding-children-raw-vegan-diet-nuts-This-family-says-helped-beat-asthma-acne.html


What this shows me is what a razor thin tightrope you have to walk to get it right. If you want to walk it fair enough, but don't force children to do it. I don't agree with that.

The healthSCAM pros would go out of business if they had no return customers. 99% of whom btw, are blood addicted meat eaters.

What does your scientific method say about those numbers ?

From your earliest days as an infant, you were indoctrinated into the lifestyle of a speciesist. Forced.. coersed .. same thing. But I'm sure thats "ok". Wink

Ever wonder why many/most children have a natural resistance to eating meat ?


most children have a natural resistance to eating meat

Did you mean babies/infants? The one who's teeth haven't grown yet or did you mean "most children" as in... the majority of children in the world with teeth?





7505  Other / Politics & Society / Re: It's funny to see these thugs in Ferguson bitching about how they have nothing on: November 30, 2014, 04:39:45 PM



"He's Trying To Mike Brown Me!..."





What does the shooting death of an 18-year-old in Ferguson, Missouri, have to do with a shopper in a Pennsylvania Wal-Mart?

Quite a lot, if you ask the shopper.

When a man was detained on Black Friday and asked to prove that he had paid for his merchandise, he quickly got his friend to start recording and invoked the name of Michael Brown as he defended himself against the police.

The problem: as the video shows, the police officer talking to the shopper remains extraordinarily calm, even as the shopper yells at him and refuses to comply with his requests.


http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/11/29/absolutely-disgusting-keep-a-close-eye-on-the-cops-reaction-as-a-black-friday-shopper-claims-that-hes-being-harassed-like-mike-brown/



7506  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Wait.... what's wrong with "Obamacare"? on: November 30, 2014, 04:26:17 PM



OBAMACARE'S BACK-END STILL NOT BUILT; OFFICIALS VERIFYING APPLICATIONS BY HAND



Obamacare was signed into law four years and eight months ago, yet the highly unpopular program's back-end computer systems still remain unbuilt.

The problem is so bad, health officials have been forced to perform some verifications by hand.
"Health insurers have been exasperated by the delays, as health officials verify some account and application details by hand," reports The Hill.

Far from denying the headaches caused by its busted Obamacare website, the Obama administration blamed its recent enrollment figure embarrassment on the unbuilt back-end system. When it was revealed that the Obama administration had inflated its Obamacare enrollment number by 1.3 million people, Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services Administrator Marilyn Tavenner sent the House Oversight and Government Reform committee a letter blaming its unfinished back-end system for the inflated figures.

"Once the automated system for effectuated enrollment is functional, the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services will be able to more easily report the number who has paid their premiums," wrote Tavenner.

The Obama administration now claims just 6.7 million, not the widely-touted eight million figure, are enrolled in Obamacare. How many of those are among the five million individuals who had their plans canceled due to Obamacare and were forced to enroll in the program the administration won't say.

Nationally, Obamacare remains as unpopular as ever. According to Gallup, a record-low 37 percent of Americans support Obamacare.

Over the next ten years, Obamacare will cost American taxpayers $2.6 trillion.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/11/29/Obamacare-s-Back-End-Still-Not-Built-Officials-Verifying-By-Hand



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The back-end will never be built as 0bamacare was designed to fail. That is why they re hired the same company that built it... to fix it. Getting paid to NOT fix it. It is by design.



7507  Other / Politics & Society / Re: US health care mandate (Obamacare) II: The grubering... on: November 29, 2014, 05:56:31 PM



Gallup: Record Number Of Americans Forgoing Getting Medical Care Because Of Costs



One in three Americans has put off seeking medical treatment in 2014 due to high costs, according to Gallup — the highest percentage since Gallup began asking the question in 2001.

Thirty-three percent of Americans have delayed medical treatment for themselves or their families because of the costs they’d have to pay, according to the survey. Obamacare, of course, had promised that it would help make health care more affordable for everyone, but the number of people who can’t afford a trip to the doctor has actually risen three points since 2013, before most Obamacare provisions took effect.

The hardest-hit: the middle-class. Americans with an annual household income of between $30,000 and $75,000 began delaying medical care over costs more in 2014, up to 38 percent in 2014 from 33 percent last year; among households that earn above $75,000, 28 percent delayed care this year, compared to just 17 percent last year.


http://dailycaller.com/2014/11/28/gallup-peak-number-of-americans-delaying-medical-care-over-costs/


7508  Other / Politics & Society / Re: This frozen chicken “had a rich, emotional life.” on: November 29, 2014, 05:53:22 PM






....
Many Frozen Chickens have had a rich emotional life.

Hillary....Pelosi....

This analogy is really not fair to the frozen chicken...


7509  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Actually, Riots are Good: The Economic Case for Riots in Ferguson on: November 29, 2014, 05:48:57 AM



Homeowners In Ferguson May Sell And Flee Elsewhere Thanks To All The Rioters…



Realty brokers in battered Ferguson, Missouri, are predicting many homes could go up for sale early next year after rioting over the August police shooting of a black teenager appeared to put a chill on the number of active listings.

Some homeowners are eager to leave Ferguson because of racially charged unrest over the past three months, brokers told Reuters. In the latest violence, stores were looted and set ablaze after a grand jury decided on Monday not to indict officer Darren Wilson in the shooting of Michael Brown.

“There’s no question that we have people wanting to leave because of the unrest,” said Pearce Neikirk, a long-time real estate broker in Ferguson.


http://news.yahoo.com/come-spring-sale-signs-expected-u-riot-hit-214704741.html


7510  Other / Politics & Society / Re: IRS claims it has LOST two years' worth of emails from former official Lerner on: November 29, 2014, 01:10:05 AM



IRS Gave White House Thousands of Taxpayer Documents


The IRS improperly turned over thousands of confidential tax documents to the White House for review, according to information obtained from a lawsuit filed against the U.S. Treasury Department’s inspector general by the legal advocacy firm Cause of Action, exposing a pipeline of communication between the two, the Daily Caller reports.

“The Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration (TIGTA) informed Cause of Action that there exist nearly 2,500 potentially responsive documents relating to investigations of improper disclosures of confidential taxpayer information by the IRS to the White House,” Cause of Action noted, according to the Daily Caller.

Such documentation, including the exchange of confidential information between White House policy adviser Jeanne Lambrew and former IRS official Lois Lerner, came to light after it was revealed that the the IRS had likely targeted conservative groups for review, including one that had sought in a 2012 lawsuit to overturn Obamacare’s contraceptive mandate, the Daily Caller noted.

The Justice Department has asked for a longer window under which to review the newly found documents before releasing them publicly, the Daily Caller said.

The Washington Examiner’s Paul Bedard, in his “Secrets” column, called news of the leaked documents a “shocking revelation.”

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/irs-taxpayer-documents-white-house/2014/11/27/id/609925/



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Shocking... But hardly surprising...


7511  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Lack of Fund on Food Stamp Access Card Foiled Terrorist Plot In St Louis, MO on: November 29, 2014, 12:58:06 AM
I think this just shows how productive members of society the people who are protesting/rioting because of the grand jury's decision not to indict the Officer Wilson.

Even if these men had been successful the rioters have already caused much more damage to local businesses. For example the cigar shop that Brown had robbed prior to assaulting Wilson was burned to the ground.   

A slave is only productive to his master. In this case those people are government property. They know of no other reality so anything they do in their life has to include their master.

The same master will feed them for years, giving them orange jump suits for free for years to come...

No one cared to ask the name of that dude who got robbed, Now he has nothing.



7512  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Actually, Riots are Good: The Economic Case for Riots in Ferguson on: November 29, 2014, 12:48:43 AM

I think it is absolutely ridiculous that the government has not done more to prevent the kind of looting and arson that is taking place in Ferguson, to the point that would almost deserve the resignation of the governor

Remember when George Bush was called out on national tv for "not caring about black people" because the national guard was late to the party? Nevermind that in reality he urged governor blanco in advance to please grant him the right to send the guard in before the storm hit and she flat out told him no, either way the liberal media assassinated him for it.

Now we have the national guard awol on the night everyone KNEW there would be riots. So why isn't the same accusations and criticism being hurled at Obama?

The difference is though I suspect Barack told Missouri's governor to stand down instead of pleading to send them in, after all a few good "great tv shots" sure did serve as a distraction from his immigration policies...




CALL FERGUSON DEMONSTRATIONS WHAT THEY ARE: 'OBAMA RIOTS'




To quote the cheery, lighted banner twinkling though the tear gas in Ferguson on Monday night, "Season's Greetings, America."

It is so wonderful in these troubling times that town elders and the politicians who are running this show didn't hang up something offensive, like "Happy Thanksgiving." Or "Merry Christmas."
"Season's Greetings" just hits that sweet spot, like sugared holiday cookies that celebrate everybody's special season, made-up or not. Cookies shaped like Stars of David, the continent of Africa, Christmas trees, crescent moons and fists of black power.

That's when you really have a parade! It's enough to bring tears to your eyes. Which is why everybody brought along their gas masks.

Now I realize that some in the media have taken grave exception to people referring to the riots in Ferguson as the "Ferguson riots." And I must say that I agree with them. They really are not the "Ferguson riots."
They are the "Obama riots."

President Barack Obama will forever rightly hold a distinguished place in American history. That can never be taken away from him.

But it is also true that he owns every single bit of these riots over the tragic killing of unarmed teenager Michael Brown. He owns the discontent. He owns the ignorance. He owns the mayhem. He owns the looting.
This rioting, it's not about Ferguson. It's not about Michael Brown. It's not about Darren Wilson.
After all, an independent grand jury evaluated all the evidence, heard from all the witnesses and asked every question 12 responsible Americans could possibly think up. And they determined that, however unfortunate, Brown's death was not a police murder.

The American grand jury system is not perfect and has not always been above and beyond corruption. But this system of justice works better than any other system of justice devised by man. And the fact that all these looting rioters haven't the faintest knowledge of this proves that Mr. Obama has personally failed miserably at educating and leading the very people he swears he wants to help the most.

The truth is that these riots are about so much more than Brown. They are about the monstrous discontent over every aspect of life for so many people finally boiling over.

Mr. Obama ran and won two presidential campaigns on promises that he would heal these very people. It was either stupidity or dishonesty to make such reckless promises to such vulnerable people just to win a couple of political elections.
The rioting lays bare the complete failure that is this presidency. In the end, the only thing this president has accomplished is proving that the American people, for all their flaws, would elect a black president. And then re-elect him despite a very disappointing first four years.

Nothing better encapsulated Mr. Obama's personal failure like the split screens carried on every channel showing the president addressing the situation from the White House alongside images of the situation unfolding in Ferguson.
"We are a nation built on the rule of law," he said as protesters smashed the windows of a police cruiser and rocked it back and forth, trying to tip it over.

"We do have work to do here," he said as protesters surged toward police lines and smoke began billowing toward them.
And the police, Mr. Obama said, "they need to work with the community, not against the community." Meanwhile, hissing canisters of tear gas skittered down the street.

The protesters, they must understand, justice "won't be done by throwing bottles." Just then, somebody gets hit in the head with a bottle.

This, the president said, is "an opportunity for us to seize the moment and turn this into a positive situation."
Beside him, on the screen, a reporter is trying to talk into the camera, wearing a gas mask. "If we can get some water," the reporter chokes.

Another reporter asks on air for the network to invest in better gas masks.

Luckily for everyone, President Obama took only one question and quickly exited the stage.



http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/11/26/nuclear-option-Ferguson-riots-are-Obamas-legacy



7513  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Actually, Riots are Good: The Economic Case for Riots in Ferguson on: November 28, 2014, 08:05:31 PM



Black Residents Armed With Assault Rifles Stand Guard Outside White-Owned Business During Ferguson Riots




A group of black Ferguson residents armed with high-powered rifles stood outside a white-owned business in the city during recent riots, protecting it from rioters that looted and burned other businesses.

After a grand jury returned no indictment against Darren Wilson, the Ferguson police officer who shot and killed unarmed black teen Michael Brown, protesters took to the streets and the demonstrations quickly turned into rioting. Several buildings were set ablaze, but a group of heavily armed black men stood outside a Conoco gas station.

One of the residents, a 6-foot-8 man named Derrick Johnson, held an AR-15 assault rifle as he stood in a pickup truck near that store’s entrance. Three other black Ferguson residents joined Johnson in front of the store, each of them armed with pistols.

In a city torn apart by racial tensions, the fact that black residents took up arms to defend a white-owned store made headlines.

The men said they felt indebted to the store’s owner, Doug Merello, who employed them over the course of several years.

The men said Merello always treated them with respect.

http://www.inquisitr.com/1638935/black-residents-armed-with-assault-rifles-stand-guard-outside-white-owned-business-during-ferguson-riots/



7514  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Study: Everyone hates environmentalists and feminists on: November 28, 2014, 07:56:04 PM



A Man Asking A Woman To Marry Him “Latent Sexism”…



When I got engaged earlier this year, well-meaning friends excitedly asked “how he proposed” — and then immediately looked at my left hand.

I’ve been told I can thank the Archduke Maximilian of Austria, who proposed to Mary of Burgundy with a diamond ring in 1477, for such instincts. But maybe I should thank the originators: the prehistoric men who demonstrated their control over women by tying braided grass around their wrists and ankles.

You’d think the obvious sexism of the modern proposal would rankle my progressive friends. Yes, plenty of brides have men in their bridal parties, more and more women are ditching the “virginal” white dress, and guys aren’t running to ask their fiancees’ fathers for “permission” to marry them anymore. But our culture still, overwhelmingly, pushes the traditional male proposal: down on one knee, with a sparkly diamond (and often a flash mob) in tow.

Tracy Clark-Flory at Salon argues that the male proposal is “a culturally sanctioned time for a man to show his tenderness.” But the tradition pushes stereotypical gender roles: The “tender” man is still in control of the situation, while the woman is forced to take a passive role. And if a woman proposes to a man, it’s seen as emasculating.

The engagement ring is a sort of 21st-century dowry in the Western world, too. The traditional two-month salary rule not only signals a man’s interest in spending a life with his partner, it inadvertently sets the relationship up for a lifetime of inequality. It’s vestigial sexism at which no one seems to blink.

If anything, women are more to blame for the sexism of the male proposal. Instagram and Facebook posts of sparkly rings — complete with the obligatory “oohs” and “aahs” — perpetuate the idea that women’s affections can be purchased.


http://theweek.com/article/index/272376/the-latent-sexism-of-the-male-marriage-proposal


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Third wave feminism --> massively pro abortion --> anti men --> anti female/male relationship --> irrelevant after menopause --> self destruction --> Natural Selection wins again.




7515  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Actually, Riots are Good: The Economic Case for Riots in Ferguson on: November 28, 2014, 04:50:59 PM



Some fear rioting may seal Ferguson fate for decades



The world watched live as crowds hurled bottles, looted liquor stores and set this city on fire in the 24 hours after a grand jury announced it would not indict police officer Darren Wilson in the shooting death of Michael Brown, 18.

Some fear that images of Ferguson on fire may determine the city's fate for decades to come. Will its notoriety as a riot city mark it for rapid descent into blight like the Watts neighborhood in Los Angeles or will the world's attention to its disadvantages make it a magnet for investment that breathes new life into the St. Louis suburb?

Some neighborhoods affected by riots have needed decades to shed their reputation for violence, said Walter Olson, an expert in constitutional studies and a senior fellow at the Cato Institute, a public policy research organization in Washington, D.C. Businesses and residents may also face more practical hurdles as they rebuild. Businesses may find it difficult to get insurance. Property values may plummet.

"These reputational things become very hard to overcome even if the reality has changed and even if the danger is in the past," Olson said.

This is precisely what St. Louis Alderman Antonio French fears. French has stood alongside the protesters since the Aug. 9 shooting and said he's dismayed that destruction by a few people could overshadow the peaceful efforts of others.

"If you have been out here, you know 98% of everything that has been going on for the last over 100 days has been peaceful," French said.

The protests in Ferguson most resemble the Civil Rights Movement of the 1960s, said Donna Murch, a Rutgers University history professor.


http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/11/27/ferguson-is-new-form-of-protest/19348931/


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... resemble the Civil Rights Movement of the 1960s?

Nah.



7516  Other / Politics & Society / Re: It's funny to see these thugs in Ferguson bitching about how they have nothing on: November 28, 2014, 04:21:25 PM
...when they have thousands of dollars of ink tatted all over their bodies and up their arms.

This is what people mean by the "entitled" culture. People think a paycheck is meant to blow on fun stuff while the government picks up the tab for your basic necessities like food, housing, healthcare or child care.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpsQwl_19M4



7517  Other / Politics & Society / Re: US health care mandate (Obamacare) II: The grubering... on: November 28, 2014, 04:17:50 PM
Back when this bill was rammed through there was major tensions going on at Congressional town halls across the country so it's not like the voters didn't know what was up. Sure, there were the idiot drones that bought some of the BS PR that was being sold but the average voter had their say in the immediate election afterwards and voted republican in droves. It's more like during this pitch scam, the media kept repeating the BS and the democratic Congresspersons were playing partisan politics rather than getting to the bottom of what this health care bill would do and who it was written to benefit.

I guess what I'd like to see admitted by the true Democrat believers is that this thing is a mistake by way of the way it was rammed through - never going through the committee review process either in the House or Senate.

This is essentially what Gruber did and has done and why he deserves respect at least for his honesty.

One of them, number 3 in line of power did that.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=864902.msg9668262#msg9668262


7518  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The Real War on Women... on: November 28, 2014, 04:14:29 PM



POP babe Beyoncé sparked fury last night when she donned an Islamic-style veil in her latest video.





The megastar was seen sporting the niqab in the promo for her Superpower duet with Frank Ocean, 27.

But religious activists accused her of disrespecting Islam by pairing the headgear with a flesh-flashing outfit.

Now she has started a fresh storm with Twitter user Karesa Warner saying: “Dear Beyonce: Do you think you’re going to get away with wearing a version of Islamic head-dress, niqab, while promoting your Demonic music?”

Dina added: “Quoting our holy Quran and dressing in a niqab isn’t a fashion statement you dumb beyonce.”




http://www.dailystar.co.uk/showbiz/412267/Beyonce-veil-wail-Fury-at-singer-s-Muslim-outfit


7519  Other / Politics & Society / Re: . on: November 27, 2014, 06:43:41 PM
....
Anyway, the OP can do whatever he wants with this thread. I will simply recreate a new one with the same name.

Why not go ahead and do that. 

Done!


7520  Other / Politics & Society / US health care mandate (Obamacare) II: The grubering... on: November 27, 2014, 06:43:14 PM


!!!!!!!!HAPPY THANKSGIVING 2014!!!!!!!!






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